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12:01 AM

That seems like it would run into big table-protocol problems with pacing and hidden information. They've got to be convinced they're doing some other kind of scenario, or else be told up front that there's a heist going on, or else what are we all doing sitting at the table?

Adeptus

I like heist movies (OK, most heist movies... I'm one of the apparent few who think Ocean's 8 was great and Ocean's 11 was barely tolerable). Which RPGs would be good for a heist story?

MikeQ

Honey Heist! It has "heist" in the name (but no other mechanics for orchestrating heists)!

Mark Wells

@Adeptus Check out Blades in the Dark.

BESW

Aug 12 at 23:19, by BESW

Robots & Rebels: A Star Wars-Inspired Honey Heist Hack by TheSamwisest. Sentient Droids. Space Rebellions. Toast. (twitter link to files hosted on Google Drive)

May 14 '19 at 2:49, by BESW

Boy Problems, a Carly-Rae-Jepsen-themed heist tabletop RPG one-shot by Colin Cummings.

The Leverage RPG is a solid heist game if you want something a bit more crunchy than Honey Heist and less grim than Blades in the Dark.

Unfortunately the free quickstart adventure seems to have vanished.

Sep 22 at 14:01, by BESW

Bears in the Dark is a free game designed to introduce people to the Blades in the Dark game engine.

Sep 22 at 13:39, by BESW

@BardicWizard Aeon Wave is a cyberpunk Fate Core setting/adventure with half-pre-made characters hired by a dead client to find out why she died at the heart of one of the most secure corporate R&D sites in the world.

Adeptus

1:18 AM

@BESW So has the DriveThruRPG version of the rules... I think it might have gone out of print (license expired maybe?)

BESW

1:28 AM

[sad]

I'd be comfortable sharing the quickstart rules with people here if they wanted.

Adeptus

2:00 AM

I'd like to take a look, thanks

BESW

Sep 22 at 13:40, by BESW

@BardicWizard I uploaded the free Leverage quickstart adventure for you since it seems to be missing from all the places I used to be able to link it from.

BESW

3:17 AM

"Dragonlance authors sue Dungeons & Dragons publisher Wizards of The Coast," Polygon article by Charlie Hall. This has the potential to make much more public record of Wizards' poor relationship between the appearance and praxis of inclusiveness.

trogdor

3:27 AM

That would be a great consequence for sure

BESW

The suit sounds to me like they're accusing Wizards of preferring breach of contract to cleaning their house.

Bardic Wizard

4:25 AM

Ugh, WotC. Also, ugh, humanity.

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Bardic Wizard

4:38 AM

But a fun bit of news that made me smile: I have a friend who I play d&d with weekly. We both, independently, started making costumes of our characters for Halloween and only found out that both of us were doing similar things today when we were talking

trogdor

5:00 AM

XD

Nice!

That's like, the best kind of surprise

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6:10 AM

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trogdor

7:59 AM

@doppelgreener oh so uh, I didn't even realize you ever said the term, but I was searching the word mutism assuming I was the only person here who said it (I re-read conversations I had sometimes), turns out you did 4 years ago XD

so you knew the term for it before I looked it up 3 days ago

(although I decided to use the term as situational mutism or intermittent mutism because the word selective seems to imply a choice that doesn't exist. I would be willing to bet some "professional" who it doesn't happen to named it that )

this time I was looking it up to remember the term, because the book I'm reading actually has an instance of it happening

Carcer

would it amuse you to know that the condition was originally refered to as "elective mutism" and was subsequently renamed "selective mutism" precisely to stop implying it was a choice

"situational mutism" is still less ambiguous of course

trogdor

8:31 AM

that's rather amusing in a way

elective is definitely a bad word to use

that's straight up shouting choice is involved

selective is still not as good as situational though XD

BESW

At a guess, they're using a scientific jargon convention whereby agency ("elective, selective") is given to involuntary biological processes. I've seen similar language used for inheritance: a particular genetic trait is "selected."

This is... not great... when they're defaulting to that kind of terminology to talk about human experiences.

trogdor

yeah

Carcer

based on my advanced reading of this wikipedia article "elective" was originally just because they assumed the patients were deliberately refusing to talk.

trogdor

also, other context that makes it bad, there are already people out there in the world who, either out of ignorance or unwillingness to know, already misinterpret the experiences of people who are neurologically different from them

@Carcer this is a thing that I know has happened by experience

not with like doctors or psycologists or anything but just with people who are around when it happens

Carcer

no doubt

trogdor

8:39 AM

they assume I am not talking by choice

and that's what I'm talking about basically

using a word that even implies choice is,... not a good idea

it helps facilitate thinking believing or assuming choice is or can be involved

even when you know the term for what is happening

which is supposed to be the best case scenario of a bad situation

but yeah I don't think I'm trying to convince anyone here I just needed to point out what I see wrong with it XD

and also the reason I just don't like that word

IE, because we already have enough of a problem with people who don't have this experience (on a professional and on a personal level) misinterpreting what exactly is happening

trogdor

9:17 AM

oh, I also just want to make it clear, it's also doubly bad if choice is implied when the attack of mutism itself is being caused by someone talking to you, expecting a response, and getting increasingly frustrated and angry.

most of my attacks of it have been caused by conversations with other people that got stressful for one reason or another

most didn't actually get to the point where people were yelling, but they often ended up with people assuming I wasn't talking because I was mad at them and sulking or something

as might be intuited, that helped no one

not me, but also not the people expecting a continuance to a conversation which they were delaying by being incredulous or acusatory XD

kviiri

@trogdor And we do it so well, the Swedish language borrowed its gender-neutral third person pronoun from us! ^_^

trogdor

@kviiri Nice XD

kviiri

Swedish traditionally has hon/han for she/he respectively, but they've introduced hen as a gender-neutral term borrowed from the Finnish hän which pronounces nearly the same

Faded Giant

finland.fi/han/article

SmokeDetector

11:48 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (33): Does forced movement trigger the effects of the Prismatic Wall spell? by Emir on rpg.SE (@Rubiksmoose)

AncientSwordRage

@SmokeDetector False Positive

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