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12:59 AM
@nitsua60 Cross the field while in the fourth dimension, untargetable by those lesser three-dimensional enemies
 
Ben
@Medix2 Bend the dimensions and remove the field, and everything in it.
 
1:25 AM
@MikeQ Labyrinth the Adventure Game being released later this year
 
It says 2019. Is that a typo? Or am I too far in the future?
 
Ben
@goodguy5 did my thing catch on??
 
@MikeQ Maybe it was delayed. All the stores that have it listed say "released April 2020"
 
Ben
@MikeQ You must have forgotten to spend all your Daylight Savings
 
...actually, it may be available now?
... or not
 
1:56 AM
@Adeptus sadtrombone.wav
 
Eh, I don't know. It looks like it's available from some places now? Otherwise, soon...
 
Ben
2:19 AM
@Adeptus evil_racoon_soon.gif
 
3:10 AM
@nitsua60 nits, a colonel I once worked for smoked the LD during an attack to confuse the Iraqi anti tank guns (1991) ... cover the battlefield with smoke ... worked IRL
"total obscurement" for a bit, in D&D 5e terms
 
3:30 AM
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Q: Is the Pact of the chain is as bad as it looks, or did I miss something?

RorpThe warlock's pact of the chain looks really bad in comparison with other pact options. You just have better familiar than other people. One the other hand, you have pact of the blade (with a subclass based one the pact, and almost all invocations are at least super useful), and the pact of the ...

 
Does line of effect apply to non-spell aoes. I have a forest gnome player who keeps a pet in his bookbag, and im wondering if that protects the animal from traps etc.
 
4:00 AM
@KorvinStarmast It's... not a new trick, if my ancient tactics reading serves me right.
 
@nitsua60 yeah. screening smoke has been used for eons, although oddly enough, the application of it that's stuck in my head is the Battle off Samar
 
4:29 AM
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Q: As a DM, how do you adjust the difficulty to create challenging encounters when your party is well constructed (aka Power Players)

MightyMokujinI am a newbie DM and started mastering because our current master was too lazy to bring a nice and engaging story. I am doing really good on the role playing and storytelling, but my encounters had been nothing more than some fun for my player's characters. I even edited some foes stats and used...

 
 
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8:16 AM
@Akixkisu re: saving a falling object from damage, just tonight's session I had a monk ask to catch some falling potions the way he's been practicing on arrows people helpfully shoot at him (Deflect Missiles). I went ahead and rolled "falling damage" for the potions and the monk rolled to see how much of that they deflected. Having, in fact, taken care of all the damage, we ruled that he'd very impressively (and monks don't impress me, generally) caught four potions in a blur.
Then he spent a ki point to chuck one at the rogue and beaned him in the head.
 
8:29 AM
@nitsua60 That sounds awesome.
@nitsua60 I had a group that lost almost all of their potion supplies in a disastrous Reverse Gravity spell recently.
 
I've have a D&D 5e question, although as a rather contrived situation I'm not sure it's suitable for the main site.
Suppose you are under the influence of a *geas* which includes the condition 'you may not cast *antimagic field*'. Then suppose you cast *antimagic field*. In doing so you have just violated the terms of your *geas* and are eligible for 5d10 psychic damage. However, you have also just suppressed the spell *geas*, which might prevent it from dealing damage.
I see a few ways this could play out: 1) You take the damage before *antimagic field* comes into effect. 2) You take damag
@kent The effects of traps are up to what the GM determines them to be. But if the book-bag is good enough to protect the pet from fireball, cloud of daggers and other AoE spells, then I would expect it to work for AoE traps unless those traps were specifically designed to affect carried items. No use inventing separate rules.
 
I don't think there's a clear correct answer, but I'd go with 1, because even if action-length spells are effectively atomic in the mechanical sense, it takes an in-universe moment to cast and that's duration is when you are violating your geas without the protection of the antimagic field. It's still in the works.
 
8:46 AM
@BBeast I think it is ambigious, but if someone would nail me down this is what it comes down to "acts in a manner directly counter to your instructions" which makes 1 most plausible due to trigger phrasing.
Generally I encourage my players to be clear about their trigger phrasing to prevent headaches later.
 
Yea, the way I see it, Geas is spell somewhat divorced from the mechanics and therefore its effects are the most sensible to interpret in-universe (where casting a spell takes a few seconds or so, and therefore Geas is being violated before the field comes online). But if there was an argument about this in my table I'd go with "whatever the players want" probably.
 
Yup, if my player is the one doing the phrasing I tend to be generous and If I leave a loophole that my player finds, and they get excited about it, then all the better.
 
That makes sense
 
(though it is hilarious when the barbarian swings their axe at the rogue that comes back from scouting in their eagerness to hit the first creature that comes around the corner)
 
9:36 AM
@Akixkisu From a Readied action, you mean? One doesn't have to act on a trigger.
 
@kviiri yes. They may as well decide not to hit whatever comes arcross the corner.
Once the trigger is gone, it is gone. It can lead to weird situations.
 
But why would they choose to hit the rogue, ever?
I mean, assuming it's their ally.
 
Because it's funny
 
^
Because they don't know that it is the rogue.
 
@Akixkisu Why? They can see them since they've come from behind the corner, can't they?
 
9:41 AM
Usually because they doused the light and are waiting.
 
Ah, right. That'd explain it.
Moral of the story, kids: use call-and-response passphrases.
 
And after the rogue went ahead the remember, wait - what happens if the rogue comes back?
 
After some googling, they're called countersigns in English. Fascinating.
I recall a vague frustration from my army days when they told us what I feel is an obvious security tip: your sign and countersign should not be related. And then, everytime we had a countersign... it was something like "Ringo --> Starr"
 
10:00 AM
@kviiri curious.
rpg.stackexchange.com/a/165865/44723 <- this user has had problems with quoting/citing/scourcing their answers and questions, and they have now deleted a few answers after being downvoted by what they perceive as injust. Might be reasonable to keep an eye on that before they are too frustrated.
 
 
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11:05 AM
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11:44 AM
@kent one problematic bit is a creature usually can't end a turn on another creature's space. So having your pet in your bag is a concern..but as long as the pet never is part of combat, I'd personally have no issue leaving them safe.
 
11:58 AM
@Akixkisu why do you think they perceive the downvotes as unjust?
 
@nitsua60 yeah
 
12:22 PM
@NautArch because they mentioned so in one of their comment exchanges. I can't recall under which deleted answer, mabye Purple Monkey knows.
 
@Akixkisu ah, that was info I didn't have. I'm not sure how to handle unhappiness with being asked to back something up.
 
Purple Monkey did an I hate to be that guy comment (which I think was tactful) and they responded that they felt attacked and deleted that answer. After that they deleted two more answers after they were dovoted. The last I linked.
 
If they really are upset, offering the opportunity to talk about it on meta may help
 
@NautArch I'll keep that in mind if I see it again.
 
I'd noticed the deleting negative answers but thought it was either a realization that they were wrong or just a dislike of negative rep
 
12:34 PM
@BBeast I'd consider other things around this, specifically counterspell, and conclude that the right answer is 1.
 
@NautArch Btw, Your presence is desired in the Toadstool Workshop (message here since you're not pingable in that room)
 
1:01 PM
@kviiri that's how we cracked enigma, you know
 
@Carcer Is there nothing the Beatles can't do!
 
How do D&D Beyond purchases work?
if I pre-order the new MTG Theros book on D&D Beyond, I don't get the physical book, right? What about vice versa?
 
No, they are not linked (if they were, the marketing would tell you)
I think some physical products have included a discount code for the digital version, but that might only be the core books/starter versions
 
2:02 PM
@Akixkisu that reminds me, is whatshisface's suspension almost up?
 
quick news flash, I have heard that the Chinese have identified two different strains of the COVID-19 in their ongoing efforts to deal with this outbreak: one strain is a bit less dangerous/damaging than the other, but the reports are 'early' and I'd wait for more info
@goodguy5 if you mean this user, suspension is over
 
@KorvinStarmast not all surprising - like most viruses, it's mutating a lot. (see nextstrain.org/ncov for public tracking of the variations that have been detected so far)
 
@KorvinStarmast I did mean that one. Might be worth keeping an eye on, as well.
 
@goodguy5 I'll try to engage with a warm tone, if participation resumes
 
agree
For what it's worth, I actually meant "keeping an eye on their content", not on them personally
 
2:08 PM
@Carcer yeah, the rate of change may be what they are tying to get a grip on
 
5
Q: Should I talk to the DM about a murder hobo that's derailing the campaign?

MichealI'm in high school and very new to dungeons and dragons so I have no experience with this. I joined a new group recently made up of 3 mildly experienced players and a relatively new DM. Our DM decided to try Mines of Phandelver but it got horribly derailed. It was going good until I missed one ...

 
2:28 PM
<sarcasm>I feel like we need to start closing all of these "my group has a jerk in it" questions as dupes where the answer is HAVE A SESSION 0</sarcasm>
 
@goodguy5 I think "have a session 0" is a good start. (hehe)
But it's just a start. I haven't been in any social group activity of non-trivial duration where all disagreements about how it proceeds were pre-empted by initial agreements.
 
GcL
@goodguy5 Session 0 can sometimes identify jerks, but doesn't always head the problem off at the pass hole.
 
The answer is always "Talk to your group, and then, if the differences are unable to be reconciled, leave"
There's usually more words, but that's the gist of it.
 
GcL
I'm a fan of recommending I statements and neutral language. How one goes about talking with people is usually an important piece.
 
Fun fact, according to the search function I've used the word "non-trivial" six times in the chat prior to my previous message. And they all were in 2018... this is one of those cases where I really suspect the search is broken somehow because I could've sworn it's one of those words I keep over-using :D
One issue I've had with session zero discussions is that the group is simply not on the same wavelength about what's going to happen in the game, despite using roughly the same words. (See all my previous rants and rant-ettes about "The Three Pillars")
 
2:42 PM
@kviiri kind of, but it gets much better when you use proper checklists.
 
@Akixkisu Pre-made checklists work better for some things, worse for others
 
@kviiri yes.
 
GcL
@kviiri I like asking everyone about movies that come to mind when they think about the themes of the game. E.g. "List three movies that come to mind about 'spying'" when that was a theme.
 
@GcL oooh, that's fun.
 
GcL
Got everything from Three Days of the Condor to The Bourne Identity.
 
2:45 PM
I want to try to run a D&D style game with FATE rules.
 
GcL
Was very informative as to how each player perceived the proposed themes.
 
@Akixkisu My main problems have been of the kind where everyone can kinda agree on what in-universe stuff we want to see, in rough terms, but how things actually play out feel like the GM scarcely gave them a thought
 
GcL
@kviiri It's tough to figure out what details are going to be important to other people.
 
@kviiri my favourite is when people say that they are intrigued by puzzles which means pulling an obvious lever after 3 minutes of thinking most of the time.
 
Brb, bus to catch
 
GcL
2:48 PM
@Akixkisu What kind of puzzles? Plays on words? Rube Goldberg devices? Mathematical puzzles? Logical puzzles? Riddles? I once made the mistake of not asking for clarification... was a disaster.
 
@GcL Yes, that's the point --- we can't feasibly do it all in a session 0. Having one helps, but these things need to be revised periodically
 
@kviiri yup. Updating priors based on the experience and especially adjustment of what assumptions entail.
It is more of a Sessions 0.
 
session 3.5
meta.session
 
@Akixkisu My un-favorites have to do with "exploration" equating with "lots of territory and details" and "social interaction" equating with "you talk to NPCs"
Lots of boring sessions where the main content was picking which door to open next. Nothing but a few coins behind most. Or talking to a bunch of NPCs, who all tell roughly the same stuff.
 
3:05 PM
@Akixkisu this
 
I can't quite put my finger on what exactly I would want from these keywords, but I have a few motivations: exploration should be driven by curiosity, not feeling compelled (eg. due to every place having treasure) and social interaction should be interaction, not treating NPCs as one-way information stations for the players.
 
I used the toothpick fish puzzle once, to fun avail.
 
@goodguy5 I have had great fun with model construction in a wizard's workshop (sentences and arguments, where the players had to give a domain and extensions of predicates to make the sentence true, false, or show that the argument is invalid, etc. to shape reaility accordingly).
 
@Akixkisu *yoink*
 
3:14 PM
@goodguy5 I actually used Carnap for that carnap.io
Makes it much easier to manage and det-up, once you are done building the problem.
 
@TheOracle whaaaaaaaaat
 
@NautArch that's why you have the woodpecker mount the forest gnome using the interior of the backpack as a saddle. Sigh. How do people even fish in dnd
 
@kviiri it is easier to convey with familarity and atmosphere.
 
GcL
@kent You mine for fish as per the meme.
 
And cooks use long tools. Arms fully extended preparing food 5 feet away
 
3:28 PM
@kent I'm desperately trying to combine "spatula" and "halberd"
 
Halbula or spaterd hmmm
 
right?
 
@goodguy5 Would a sharpened pizza shovel fit the bill? or are you just going for puns?
 
@Someone_Evil going for a pun.
 
Spalberd? Hatula?
 
3:32 PM
or a portmanteau
 
Wait not that last one
it sounds like a bad vampire knock-off
 
@RevenantBacon hatula seems like an off brand vampire lord
 
His fashion was terrifying
 
mostly hats
 
3:33 PM
spalberd is a space halberd and nothing to do with a spatula
 
@RevenantBacon Is missing the fangs, but sure has the hats
 
@kviiri Sometimes, I wonder if I would just have much more fun playing duets because I occasionally feel like I avoid doing certain things because "hey, I'm in a group and everything needs to move the group narrative along".
 
Spatula comes from the Latin word for broadsword
 
Hat comes from the English word for "sound effect of laughter" because hats are a sign of joy.
 
3:40 PM
The diminutive spatha. So spathalberd ?
 
@kent Spathalberd almost sounds like an old British King from before Alfred the Great, though maybe Spathalbred would be a better fit ...
 
Well, Halberd comes from the German word Helmbarde Which literally translates to Handle Hatchet
 
Spathandle
 
I am Spathalbred.
 
and apparently one variant of the pluralization is halberts
 
3:43 PM
@RevenantBacon He's just waiting for his brother, Spathedward, to abdicate.
Whoops, "George" was his regnal name, his brother's name was Edward.
 
Spathelmbarde works too since spathe is another root.
 
I have suddenly and completely spontaneously come up with two new named weapons for my campaign
 
@Yuuki I am Spathalbred (wait, Kirk Douglas is dead, can we even do that joke anymore?)
 
Next subclass. The spathelm bard
 
@kent There is something about a spathelm that makes me uncomfortable, like someone just spat on my helm.
 
3:47 PM
Well he's a bard. So wouldn't be surprised
He cooks pancakes to inspire his allies and he spits on his enemies.
 
Instead of Vicious Mockery he casts Warm Globule
 
@Yuuki Good thinking, maybe you should try?
 
@RevenantBacon Wouldn't that be Acid Splash?
 
@KorvinStarmast I often make up fantasy names and languages by mutation from natural languages and Spathelm sounds like a name I could come up with
 
@kviiri I do the same.
 
3:56 PM
I occasionally use just plain Swedish
 
lately most of mine have used a variation on Italian ... not sure why ...
 
something something bjork jokes
 
I associate the races with different cultures.
Firbolg are Welsh. Dwarves are German
 
Swedish is the old "civilized language" here, so I guess it makes sense it evokes a certain courtly, historical vibe.
 
@kent there are some possible pitfalls with that approach
 
3:59 PM
Yeeeees. There's some unpleasantry that way.
 
Well I don't tell the players I'm doing it and my ability to speak foreign languages is so bad I don't think they realise
 
I thought Tolkien's dwarves were a racist caricature of the Jewish people, for a while. Of course I'm far better informed about the possible effects of confirmation bias nowadays... but still, there are some uncanny resemblances between dwarves and Jewish culture, as well as Jewish caricatures.
 
@kviiri my sorcerer, shadow, is named Umbro Lumennox (I guess that's more Latin than Italian) but sadly that campaign is in a stasis
 
I base it mainly on the language and the irl culture that race is associated with
 
4:03 PM
@kviiri IIRC, Tolkien's reaction to someone mentioning that to him was "Jews are really cool and I wish I was a Jew" not "no, I didn't base the dwarves on Jews".
 
@kviiri Never saw any of the dwarves in the hobbit as Jews. Huh. I had the darnedest time not visualizing them as dwarves like "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves" cartoon movie by Disney
 
@Yuuki Wasn't Tolkien's reaction to <any claim of parallel> that "NO IT'S NOT AN ALLEGORY"
 
@kviiri I think that was C.S. Lewis.
 
@Yuuki I thought C.S. Lewis was very unabashed about Narnia being an allegory
Tolkien, meanwhile, didn't want people digging too deep to infer meanings
 
Jesus lion 🦁
 
4:05 PM
Or at least attributing those meanings to him
 
@kent But who are the Beholders and Illithids then?
 
@KorvinStarmast There is one objective connection: Tolkien based the language of Khuzdul on Hebrew. The rest is very "connect the dots" stuff between dwarven traits and [perceived] Jewish features that may or may not be intentional.
 
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica The Beholder was Terry Kuntz' idea of a monster
 
@Yuuki IIRC that's Tolkien all right. People seem to want to put words into his mouth a lot.
 
@kviiri I was not aware of that explicit connection
 
4:07 PM
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@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica none. They use telepathy so their language and names are literal
 
@KorvinStarmast Jokes aside, what I mean is, assuming that fantasy races are stand-ins for human cultures tends to break down once you actually take a look at the full spectrum of races found in fantasy, such as Thri-Kreen, Illithid etc.
 
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica Illitids are obviously Belgians, though 8^p
 
@Carcer XD And also RIP my notifications lol
 
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica it also breaks down when you, like myself, base draconic on Swedish because of skyrim. Even though the in game description is of a more guttural language
 
4:12 PM
Swedish, at least the "proper" Swedish unlike what we speak here, has these intonations that make normal speaking sound a bit like singing
 
@kent Yeah, in that case, it should be Latin.
After all, the Romans invented gutters aqueducts.
@kviiri Oh, is Swedish a tonal language like Mandarin Chinese?
 
@Yuuki No, it doesn't have semantic information in the tone. As far as I know...
(apart from the semantics that "I am not a Finn in disguise!")
 
French sounds like singing because of the way they pitch. But I'll be damned if I make celestial or sylvan French
 
@kent Bah, everyone knows Skyrim draconic is based on broken Russian!
 
Wikipedia says that the "tonal word accent" of Standard Swedish occasionally disambiguates words
 
4:17 PM
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica but skyrim belongs to the bords
Oops. Nords*
The nordic borg
 
@kent You can edit your comment within the next two minutes, and if you do so, we'll all pretend we didn't see it.
 
@kent To the lords of the bords.
(Maybe should've linked to the actually snowy version of the clip.)
 
@Yuuki Oookay, WIkipedia says it's a "pitch-accent language" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitch-accent_language
Terminology yay
 
@kviiri That first sentence just confuses me more.
 
@Yuuki Almost, but the damage doesn't come from acid eating away at your skin, it comes from the emotional damage of being degraded.
 
4:22 PM
Judging by that, only multi-syllabic languages can be pitch-accent.
If your language is monosyllabic (like Chinese, where every "word" is a single syllable), it's impossible to be a pitch-accent language.
 
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica band names never cease to amaze me -Guano Apes-
 
@Yuuki Aren't most modern Chinese two-syllabic, with most words consisting of two morphemes one syllable each?
 
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica No? Every character is a single syllable.
 
@Yuuki Yes, every character is a single syllable, but aren't most words two characters?
 
You can have character pairs, which I suppose we call "phrases" or "terms".
 
Like the word for "panda" is two characters but those two characters are for "bear" and "cat", so you could easily just say "bear cat" instead of "panda".
I've never considered that as one word, two syllables but I suppose that's the thing about translation.
 
If you are tone deaf does that restrict your ability to speak tonal languages
 
@kent It shouldn't because it's all about relativity rather than perfect tone.
 
@Yuuki Well, to get some sort of common reference of the concept of the term across languages, do you consider an English 'carbohydrate' or a 'werewolf', or a 'woman' one word or two (as all of them are bimorphemic)?
 
I think people generally won't be that tone-deaf, especially in surroundings where one gets ambient practice from everyone speaking
 
4:29 PM
@Yuuki A Bearcat
 
@kviiri I feel like I've seen stats that people who grow up speaking tonal languages are significantly less likely to be tone-deaf than others but I might be hallucinating memories
 
@KorvinStarmast quaggoth are the bearcats of 5e. Used to look more like werebears then got the 5e makeover
 
@Carcer I've definitely heard something similar
Higher rates of perfect pitch among people who were raised speaking a tonal language
 
Although I do wonder, in a Sapir-Whorf kind of way, whether the proportion of tone-deaf people is lower in populations whose primary language is tonal.
I had originally typed half of that out like five or ten minutes ago but was called to a meeting.
 
that's okay, we believe you
 
4:42 PM
Re: Recent Don't Guess The System Policy Question on Meta: It's tremendously reassuring to see that the moderators and community members alike are watching things like this and taking action when visible harm/confusion/dissent has been caused. Thank you all!
 
I could see that learning a tonal language helps develop the tone/music-related parts of your brain, but it also wouldn't shock me if that isn't the case and it's simply a coincidence because a lot of tonal languages are Asian and Asian cultures frequently emphasize a hard work ethic in children (who go on to work hard on learning music, thus developing the music parts of their brain)
 
Fun fact, tonal languages suck for singing.
 
@kent OK, I guess I see it ....
 
@KorvinStarmast nose, ears, and not plantigrade like bear
 
4:58 PM
@Yuuki Now I want to know... Though there are some very interesting ideas about how tonal languages originated, or at least, why a language would go from not having tones to having them. But also worth pointing out is that tonal languages come is huge varieties. Some have two times total, others have six
Not to mention register tones vs contour tones
But also, a pitch-accent is a form of "stress". While in English when we stress a syllable we increase volume, length, and pitch, Japanese only increases pitch. This results in the language having certain words that differ only in pitch/tone/stress/accent . Course what even "pitch-accent" means is up for debate and studiers of language stress haven't agreed, really ever
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica Trying to get common terms to fit cross-linguistically is probably a bad idea. People tried it with the parts of speech for years and it did us linguists no favors. We have phonemes, syllables, moras, affixes, morphemes, etc... And even those can get muddy.
 
5:14 PM
@Medix2 Well, it's borderline impossible to do good, well-analysable comparative work without having common references.
 
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica Yes but I don't think the compounded-ness of a word is something worth hashing out. Just define it by syllables, morphemes, and affixes and you've probably got your answer.
 
@Medix2 Well that's what I'm trying to do - figure out whether we see 'a word' and 'a morpheme' according to a same-ish standard.
 
There's also the problem of whether the morphemes are still recognizable. A firetruck has a clear origin whereas most people could not explain how a wheelbarrow or strawberry got its name
 
Strawberry derives from the person who discovered it, Mortimer Strawb.
 
I for the life of me cannot tell if a syllable is stressed.
People have explained its louder or longer. Still can't hear it
 
5:19 PM
@kent Common symptoms are headaches, upset stomach, and insomnia.
 
@Medix2 Well, recognizability is one of the many ways in which something can be opaque to a layman and require a specialist to answer. Philology is no exception to that.
 
@kent If you can add f***ing, it's probably stressed. Ex: In-f***ing-credible and reso-f***ing-lution
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica Yeah that's a really good point. Now I wish I knew how speakers of Chinese view what I call "words"
 
Wheelbarrow's etymology is interesting. The word comes from the ability to move heavy things quickly as if they were tied to an arrow. And when one rides in a wheelbarrow, they feel a sudden urge to go "wheeeeeeee". And because wheelbarrows originated in England, they were often used to move things that were weighed in pounds, thus you have "whee" + "lb" + "arrow" -> "wheelbarrow".
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@Yuuki You better make a universe with all words derived in such interesting ways
 
You mean if there is a pause after the syllable? Because I've been told some words the second syllable is stressed
 
5:25 PM
@kent Stress is hard to notice/find. One method is adding the swear word, as I did above, in which case the following syllable holds the stress. You could technically learn the stress rules of English but they're ugly and please don't XD
 
The most common stress in a sentence is when it becomes a question
 
That becomes comical. Like uptalking. Or sarcasm
 
@Yuuki That's funny =)
 
@AncientSwordRage Alternately, you see a lot of stress when it's for life.
 
Also @medix2 I thought in*******credible in was stressed. Whoops
 
5:29 PM
@Medix2 I can truthfully say that this is the first time I'm thankful for the fact that "pounds" is abbreviated in such an incredibly unintuitive way.
 
@kent we aim to keep it pg in chat, fyi - please self-censor
 
@Yuuki Quick, explain the inclusion of 'libras' (or 'librals'!) in the origin of the word 'wheelbarrow'!
 
@Yuuki The Continental competitor, the "wheekgarrow" was more efficient and was adopted by the Germans, the only Europeans capable of pronouncing it. Thus kicking off their advantage in transportation infrastructure that tragically, but predictably (by philologists) led to WWI.
 
@Carcer it's medix2 fault. He told me to put ******* in words
 
@kent Medix2 is notorious for corrupting our innocent users, it is true
 
5:40 PM
Wheelbarrow could also refer to a circular mound erected over a grave. There are dead people under the Hollywood sign
 
@Carcer Kent was never innocent to begin with
 
6:14 PM
@Medix2 I think you are forgetting that innokent and innocent are the same pronunciation in Celtic, right? There was the lateral glottal slide 1700 years ago that changed ... nah, my linguistic humor isn't up to scratch today
 
@KorvinStarmast Is the "Lateral Glottal Slide" the linguists version of the Electric Slide?
 
6:29 PM
@Medix2 Probably, but I don't get invited to linguist parties any more after I brought a plate of stewed tongue to the last one. ;)
(The local Mexican and Tex Mex restaurants do a lovely, tender lengua that I find very people like as much as I do)
That is "very few people" not "very people" ....
 
@KorvinStarmast tongue: the food that tastes you back!
@kent I'm still not sure I personally would allow someone to 'mount' another creature in a way that's not visible.
 
@NautArch I must resist the temptation to follow that up with a jest that runs afoul of Carcer's previous warning
 
I think we have a question about that...
argh, it's something around line of sight and a mount
 
@KorvinStarmast Speaking of food that most people don't like, small intestine is one of my favorite things because it has a nice crunchy crispiness to it.
 
this help question really seems like a duplicate. But I'm unwilling to throw the hammer until we have 4 votes.
@Yuuki I'm very much in the camp of if something is delicious, tell me what it is after I eat it. I will not care at that point.
If it looks and tastes good...yeah, i'll eat it.
I also know there are likely some cross-language issues here, but I don't know the system well enough to parse and re-write. And definitely spending my time in typing out their text blocks from the images.
 
6:46 PM
Random statement of the day:
The human body is just meat, wrapped in wet bones, wrapped in more meat
 
@CollinB meatsacs are real
 
Actually, I might be thinking of tripe, which is stomach lining not intestine.
 
@Yuuki there's a jewish dish that's traditionally stuffed into beef intestine.
but you don't eat the intestine.
 
Yeah, I'm thinking of tripe.
 
not because it's not good, but because it's not edible.
well, i guess you could eat it. It just doesn't break down.
 
6:49 PM
Steamed tripe with a good chili oil has a really interesting crispy texture and nice flavor.
 
@NautArch I also think it's a dupe... if only we could hammer together
 
@Medix2 Given OP's reluctance, I don't want to do it before it has 4 votes.
 
@Yuuki I think that depends on how it is prepared.
 
@CollinB Most people have more than the average number of fingers
 
@kviiri Some people die with more fingers than they were born with.
 
6:55 PM
@kviiri is that due to the average being driven down to below 8 by various finger and limb losses?
(I consider thumbs to not be fingers ...)
 
@KorvinStarmast Yes (although personally I count thumbs as fingers too)
 
OK, 10/8 gotcha
 
It might be a matter of linguistics though because we don't really have the digit/finger separation
 
The opposable bit is what makes thumbs a bit different and only one joint.
 
If you don't have any digits, it makes it harder to dig it. 🤔
 
6:56 PM
For some reason, I am now recalling how many times I have broken a finger ...
 
@NautArch you mean you don't allow saddle juking? Riding a horse and then covering yourself with a blanket at the end of each turn for total cover.
 
@kent I would not. Or at least if I did, I'd probably take control of their mount. But I'd also still allow targeting. It's pretty clear where they are.
But I also tend to be more strict in things like Hiding, too. Run around the single corner and 'hide"? Yeah, I still know where you are. You aren't hiding if you're only in one place and I know you went there.
It's like my kid playing hide and seek. They run into the closet and I see them run in. They're in the closet. And I know where they went and where they are no matter how quiet they are.
 
Is there a question related to escorting npcs?
 
@kent NSFW?
 
>.<
Traveling with them from one place to another without them dying.
Especially when they would die to a single aoe even if they made their saves
 
7:02 PM
what's the question? I mean, escort missions are pretty common.
 
Maybe How do you protect npcs from aoe?
 
@kent Are you asking as a DM planning on wanting to use an AOE against an escort mission or as a PC wondering what to do if a DM does that?
 
As a DM.
 
In DnD 5e context, it's a tad tricky. I mean, you can do stuff like counter-spells and stuff like that, but ultimately, if the GM gives you a NPC not capable of surviving AoEs and combat involving AoEs... there's really not much you can do. I mean, unless the GM wants to have a sort of puzzle solution or something.
 
There's always good ol' death ward (at least in 5e-dnd)
 
7:06 PM
@kent The tricky part there is also that if you are asking for them to do an escort mission and want it to succeed, then you should only throw things at them they can be successful at. If you know there isn't anything they could do have or do or expect that it's coming and have a solution for...don't throw it at them.
 
I think that's the point of the question. I don't know the limits of what they could do and whether my action would be fair
For example yesterday we discussed npcs in backpacks
 
@kent Well, you know your player's characters and what's on their sheets (or can know that.) If you can't see a solution, then I wouldn't do it.
 
5e also doesn't lend itself very well to defending targets in general. Its combat design makes it rather hard to provide sufficient deterrent against just... waltzing to your intended target
 
If escorting an NPC only seems necessary for story purposes, you could just handwave away the mechanical risks
 
One option is just to toss the NPC into some sort of portable demiplane, I think at the end of the day there's tons of options, it's just unclear what's available for your party
 
7:09 PM
Yeah, MikeQ is right in that it depends a lot on whether you want this to be a mechanical challenge.
 
Hmmm maybe death saves? After all how else would parties with large differences in level survive
 
They do survive?
 
Oh
 
@kent We typically don't do large level differences. I think largest we had was maybe 3 levels?
 
You must have seen some things
 
7:11 PM
@kent I would 100% use death saves for an escort mission. Too easy to fail otherwise.
 
Also consider the bus factor here. If the NPC dies while being escorted, what happens to the campaign story?
 
What is the bus factor?
 
Suppose any one character gets hit by a bus (and dies). Does your campaign story immediately end?
 
The method by which things move along needs to work
Ohhhh getting hit by a bus not the bus breaking down
Good point
 
I generally don't do large level differences either, but I concede it's largely a playstyle thing. I originally decided against level differences in DnD 4e, where even a relatively small level difference skews gameplay badly.
And the primary reasons why level differences would happen don't really apply: I don't want to punish players for not attending, so I give full XP (or levels) to everyone. And punishing character death by level loss feels harsh to me.
Plus it makes prepping easier to use story-based leveling with constant level
If you're interested about what the deal with 4e is: it scales to-hit and all defenses very fast by level. This means a lower-level character will have trouble even hitting their enemies in combat, leading to potentially very frustrating game. (And conversely, they will get hit by most enemy attacks, resulting in "death by a thousand cuts" if not quicker demise)
 
7:21 PM
Can we vote to reopen the toadstool question?
 
@NautArch sure, ro vote cast
 
@Rubiksmoose I have no strong feelings one way or the another about the tag guessing issue, but I have strong (and positive feelings) about your initiative to improve the situation. Kudos!
I may have feelings about it tomorrow. Have to see if I'll have more energy to think about it x)
 
@kviiri I'm just the dude that got to post it, it was very very much a team effort.
 
ah well
kudos to the team
 
Both in terms of initiative and execution :)
@kviiri Thanks :) I definitely appreciate it.
 
7:32 PM
So have you guys heard of Time Crystal Theory?
 
no
it sounds like a conspiracy theory
 
Apparently just last year, scientists were able to actually produce results based off of theories from 2017
This is apparently a new state of matter
 
I've heard of time crystals, they're this funky new kind of matter that appears to oscillate ad infinitum without energy input which is kinda freaky. It's like a permanent motion engine, in a very loose sense.
 
@RevenantBacon uh, what?
 
that breaks Time Translation Symmetry
 
7:36 PM
Basically how a crystal has a repeating structure in space, a time crystal has a repeating structure in time. As strange as that sounds, it's been experimentally confirmed.
 
@KorvinStarmast YOu did? Still only seeing one (mine)
 
They exhibit Spatial and temporal long-range order
and have oscilation periods longer than the driving force
 
This question is okay as long as it doesn't start idea-generating answer, righT?
 
@NautArch it does not allow me to reopen vote. I may have done so previously?
 
@KorvinStarmast boo :(
 
7:38 PM
@NautArch that seems fine
 
@RevenantBacon just have to watch out for unsupported ideas.
 
@KorvinStarmast You were part of the first reopen
 
Time crystals possess "motion without energy"—their apparent motion does not represent conventional kinetic energy. It has been proven that a time crystal cannot exist in thermal equilibrium. Recent years have seen more studies of non-equilibrium quantum fluctuations. TILT, thanks @RevenantBacon!
@Someone_Evil yeah, it took me a moment to realize that.
 
@KorvinStarmast Yeah, they're basically a closed system of energy. No out, no in.
 
@RevenantBacon That's like time cube theory right?
 
7:48 PM
@Rubiksmoose Uuuhhhh..... sure, yeah, totally
Except that it's been reproduced by multiple separate and independant labs
and isn't insane
 
@RevenantBacon obviously paid off shills.
 
@Rubiksmoose What, no, of course these guys are on the up and up obvious winking
 
@Rubiksmoose yea!
 
Any diagram with Jesus, Socrates, Einstein and the Clintons is too awesome to be incorrect.
 
@Rubiksmoose wait, what are the Clintons supposed to represent?
 
7:53 PM
@Rubiksmoose Why is it upsidedown?
 
@RevenantBacon I'm assuming Bill and Hillary? But honestly it is not clear what anything on that is supposed to represent lol
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica Oh man, you must be chilling with Einstein.
 
@Rubiksmoose i wonder if the guy that drew it knew? Probably not, he was pretty cray-cray
 
@Rubiksmoose Well, let's see how it correlates with this diagram:
 
Perfect match!
 
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