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12:03 AM

For the project... it looks like he's doing it on his own? And his "Who I Am" blurb for this specific project focuses on... being a professor of Western philosophy, rather than any particular qualifications for the project?

I'd be more enthusiastic if he were involving any of the many marginalized TRPG creators who have been working with this exact subject for years, rather than... apparently just trusting his academic experience in Western philosophy to guide him? I dunno

Shalvenay

@BESW I think that the best approach for this would be to provide an open-ended framework that other creators could plug into, if you will?

BESW

I'd rather see the creators most affected by the problem, and with the most experience in finding alternative ways to game, actually spearheading the project rather than being "allowed" to use the framework some random philosophy guy came up with.

user15026

12:21 AM

That would be nice. This just feels like a weird kind of trying to profit on other people's stuff

BESW

Why is he doing this himself instead of supporting existing work on the subject by people more qualified to do it? Is he unaware of them (meaning he did no research and his project will show that) or did he not think to ask them (meaning he's not thinking about the real-world impact of his projects on the people most likely to be affected by it if he gets it wrong) or did they all refuse his support on their projects (and why)?

The tone of the KS page makes it sound like it's probably the first one, honestly.

V2Blast

Yeah, that's mainly why I wanted to ask if anyone here knew anything about him or his work.

BESW

I can ask in some of my private TRPG spaces, but my initial impression is just... well-meaning but hasn't really thought through the implications of what he's doing and whether he's the right person to be doing it.

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Ooh, Tempered Legacy looks like an interesting concept :)

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RedRiderX

2:31 PM

@BESW Is there somewhere I can read about the work others have done on this?

I've been wondering what options are readily available ever since I saw the Pathfinder take on this with Ancestries.

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Akixkisu

5:38 PM

@NightOwl in the case of 1 hp minions, what I do is give them fixed current hp of 1, but regular appropriate hit die for determining max hp. Instead of the current hp rule of sleep I apply that roll to the max hp roll. This way the spell doesn't break and book keeping is still reduced.

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NautArch

@Akixkisu fyi, because they're not in the room, they won't get the ping.

and wouldn't your case still mean they have 1HP? Sleep isn't about max HP, it's about current.

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6:32 PM

@NautArch I know, and yes, see second sentence. Wrote the message in case they come here as invited in my comment.

Sleep as suggested here would calculate with max hp as current hp exception. For matters of combat those max hp are not rolled before they are relevant thus keeping in line with less bookkeeping.

More explicitly you keep the 1 hp homebrew rule unless a spell like sleep affects the creatures, then you roll their max hap and treat them as current hp for calculation purposes of the spell, but still use the 1 hit kills brew.

kviiri

6:49 PM

I would've thought the bounded accuracy thing would reduce or eliminate the need for minion as a thing of its own

NautArch

@Akixkisu ah, gotcha. Still feels weird to not treat equally, but if it's worked for you, then it worked for you :)

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7:13 PM

@kviiri I agree, it is mostly a bookkeeping thing.

NautArch

I wonder if swarms are minions in a way

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@NautArch There are creatures with average hit points of 1, but those are just normal creatures (mostly CR 0)

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7:47 PM

The defining characteristic of 4e minions is simplicity: they always die on a hit, and always deal the same amount of damage.

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