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2:32 AM

@jgn Apologize if my comments earlier came across poorly, I just know that I at least avoid answering questions before they have enough information and find early answers unhelpful for the site. I usually just copy my answer into a text document to paste it when the questions reopens

nitsua60

Damn, I've got a lot to prep for a new campaign starting tomorrow night....

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Q: Can the Detect Magic spell detect an Antimagic Field spell?

This is a duplicate of this question, but for a different gaming system; Pathfinder v1 vs DnD 5e. Also relevant, but slightly different is this question about intersection. So the gist is, a wizard is sitting in the middle of an empty 50'x50' room. They have cast Antimagic Field on themselves (1...

nitsua60

We've also got an epic we're running next weekend: "They're the Caves of Chaos. And They're Our Home."

jgn

2:54 AM

@Medix2 You are free to do what you want, I think I had enough information to explain a simpler solution. You certainly were insistent but that's just the way the site works, I understand. The apology is unnecessary but I appreciate the sentiment.

nitsua60

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jgn

@nitsua60 What's it about?

nitsua60

@jgn It's the Caves of Chaos from Keep on the Borderlands; two dozen players will be the kobold and goblin tribes fending off invaders (read: typical PC party) trying to kill them and take their stuff.

About three times a year my school and two others get their groups together for a shared epic event. It's pretty excellent.

(My RPG club's calling it an "away game.")

jgn

3:24 AM

@nitsua60 Sounds cool, is this like a giant game or multitables? :o

nitsua60

@jgn Both. We're expecting to have two large tables, though three might also happen.

And things happening at one table ~~can~~ will influence the other, so it's kinda two tables for managing flow, but really just one biiiig scenario.

jgn

3:50 AM

Sounds awesome, are you organizing? dm'ing?

nitsua60

Both. Three organizers, 5-6 gms.

jgn

4:02 AM

Does someone do a write up after? It's interesting ^^

nitsua60

@jgn Not usually. We've done a big many-party dungeon simul-crawl, we did a bunch of irregulars trying to harry and stall an approaching army while the regulars formed up, we did a 'try to get as many civilians out of the city under attack from undead horde as you can', ... I'm probably forgetting one.

There was definitely a roll of '00' on a wand of wonder to petrify an ancient black dragon that ended one of them.

(To applause and cheers.)

Hot RPG Questions

5:52 AM

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Q: Does detect magic detect itself?

So I cast detect magic in a circle around myself, can I see the aura of my own spell and thus know where it ends?

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Pierre Cathé

8:06 AM

Morning

Ben

Evening

Hot RPG Questions

8:37 AM

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Q: Could Nightwalker kill Juiblex?

Nightwalker has feature “Life Eater”. It says A creature reduced to 0 hit points from damage dealt by the nightwalker dies and can't be revived by any means short of a wish spell. Juiblex has feature “Regeneration”. It says Juiblex regains 20 hit points at the start of its turn. If it t...

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KorvinStarmast

12:34 PM

@nitsua60 Love it!

Someone_Evil

I like the new close reasons with one exception. It no longer says 'Primarily', just 'Opinion Based'. That first word was important.

vicky_molokh

12:50 PM

@Someone_Evil What are the other new ones?

Someone_Evil

'Needs detail or clarify' and 'needs more focus'

I like them in general (more focus on improving the question over gatekeeping), but also that missing system (tag) falls better under 'needs detail' than it did under 'unclear'

KorvinStarmast

1:56 PM

@Someone_Evil gatekeeping? care to elaborate? I wonder sometimes if I understand how that term gets used

Someone_Evil

@KorvinStarmast I guess I meant perceived as gatekeeping: closed as being too "bad" (for some meaning of bad) to be on the site, as opposed to 'you would get better help if you clarified it'.

Something being closed (or put on hold) for being 'unclear' can be seen as dismissive. ("Go away, you aren't using the right words we like"). New close reasons have a bit more of a call to action, which I think is more useful

I'm not sure it will actually make a (noticable) difference, but I like the attempt if nothing else

KorvinStarmast

@Someone_Evil Can you define what gatekeeping means in your own words? I understand what you are saying, but that term means something special, it seems, and I am realizing that I don't quite grok it.

And not just as it applies to this site, but as it has begun to be used for about the last decade in internet discussions.

Someone_Evil

@KorvinStarmast As a general term, and trying at a rigorous definition: Controlling, or attempting to control, the access to something

Often used about trying to control the "access" to a fandom or discussion within a fandom

I'm not sure everyone will be using the term in the same meaning, but that's how I've understood it (and find it useful)

Hi, Cat Army, (@user60385). There's a conversation way back here which you might want to read (RE: that question of yours). Unfortunately there's a 20 rep barrier to chat, but a good answer somewhere will quickly get you over that.

KorvinStarmast

2:22 PM

@Yuuki Aah, the midas touch was a second level spell. Who knew?

Gwideon

2:44 PM

hello

@Gwideon o/

/me waves.

how is everyone

glad it's friday :)

yeah same

2:46 PM

this has been a pretty craptastic week, so happy it's over

Gwideon

also saw the new Mandalorian episode and I'm not gonna get into spoiler but I thought it was pretty good.

NautArch

oooh nice!

most likely watching it tonight

vicky_molokh

Hunting old and obscure bugs. Also signing up for a Genesys one-shot to get a feel of the system (I know very little about it).

What is Yoda's species called?

Gwideon

we don't know. It's never been named

NautArch

^

Gwideon

2:49 PM

so right now it's just yoda's species

NautArch

I believe they're known as "Hensons"

Gwideon

Lol

vicky_molokh

@NautArch Shouldn't that be Hansons?

Gwideon

although that would be a nice tribute if they were called that

NautArch

@vicky_molokh "handsomes?"

vicky_molokh

2:51 PM

@NautArch Mmmnope.

NautArch

hahaha

there's a lid for every pot, tho!

Gwideon

what if it turns out that the child's name is Jim

anyways i'll stop with the bad jokes

NautArch

if we can't do bad jokes here, where can we?!

Gwideon

true

vicky_molokh

@NautArch A few lines down this thread.

Rubiksmoose

2:57 PM

@NautArch I'm looking forward to watching it as well :)

NautArch

It still throws me whenver I read something by Praxiteles and their use of "we".

Rubiksmoose

@vicky_molokh From what I've experienced of Genesys from one actual play podcast of FFG's Star Wars game and I actually quite like it from what I heard. Let us know what you think! I love the dice rolling in particular.

vicky_molokh

Based on theoretical acquaintance only:
- The dice seem like even more tricky than WoD/ST's system.
- There seems to be a big push to always max out attributes and ignore skills at chargen due to the way the system is built.
Those two bit I don't quite like already. But I'm open to trying it out to see if first impressions are misleading.

Gwideon

@Rubiksmoose It's a little to... rules heavy for me. I'd honestly rather have something like fate for a starwars game

vicky_molokh

@Gwideon Huh, I thought you're fine dealing with D20-level rules heaviness. Or is Genesys even heavier by your estimate?

Gwideon

3:05 PM

@vicky_molokh I am fine with d20's rule heaviness but a rules heavy game doesn't have the feel I'd like to go for with a starwars game

vicky_molokh

Ah.

Rubiksmoose

@vicky_molokh You've certainly looked into it more than I have, and it's worth noting that the AP I listened to was very narrative and tended to eschew rules a lot of the time.

I'm definitely interested in hearing how you think it is.

vicky_molokh

@Rubiksmoose I'm not sure how ignorable those bits are. Attributes cost about 2× that of skills, but cannot be raised after chargen. Conversely, skills cannot exceed 2 in chargen. That probably has a big impact and shapes progression and lack thereof heavily.

(Skills and attributes don't add directly. Instead, the dice pool is based on the higher of the two, but the lower of the two upgrades some of the dice in your pool into better ones.)

Rubiksmoose

@vicky_molokh Well, I guess I should say more accurately that the podcast (Campaign for anybody curious) didn't highlight any of those aspects. There was a ton of RP and a lot of hand waving. So it didn't give me any idea at all into those aspects of the system.

The two things that stood out to me were the multi-axis success rolling system and the use of "force points", both of which I really liked.

The idea that you could roll a failure but also a bunch of advantages and/or a critical is a very cool way to help things fail forward IMO.

Or it seemed like it anyways.

Someone_Evil

@Rubiksmoose Are there too many in, or a few words missing from that sentence?

Rubiksmoose

3:16 PM

@Gwideon That sounds fair. I've never even cracked open a book on this so... Out of curiosity, how were the social aspects of the game handles mechanically? Better than 5e?

@Someone_Evil You might say there were a bunch more words in there lol

Gwideon

@Rubiksmoose The social aspects are very similar to 5e from what I can tell

Rubiksmoose

@Gwideon booo.

vicky_molokh

@Gwideon If this is about Genesys, I'd be curious about the gist of what the handling is like. (I am unfamiliar with 5e D&D if that's what is being referred to.)

Gwideon

wait is Genesys the generic version of the starwars games

vicky_molokh

@Gwideon Yes.

Gwideon

3:25 PM

okay

KorvinStarmast

@NautArch One of many difficulties with those posts - like a king who takes a royal oui - very obscure Mel Brooks reference

Gwideon

4:17 PM

does anyone have any tips for painting minis

KorvinStarmast

4:57 PM

@Gwideon It's been years since I painted minis, but a few years ago in this chat Maximilian had some great advice. I'll try and find you some info, and if you search this site's Q's and A's I think you'll find a few good answers on that.

goodguy5

fun warlock feat question

KorvinStarmast

@goodguy5 I will be trying to convince my brother to allow that feat if I can also show that it is balanced, in either January or February, when my cleric retires and my recently created Celestial warlock is introduced.

goodguy5

My gut says it's a no, simply because you can bank it for later levels

eh, upon further investigation, there are only 4 level 15 invocations and you can theoretically get them all.

So, taking the feat at level 16 wouldn't let you get more max-level ones

NautArch

@Gwideon Doy ou have paints and brushes?

Gwideon

no

KorvinStarmast

5:07 PM

Heh, then that's step 0 8^D

goodguy5

I know some people like to keep toothpicks on hand, as well, for tiny detail

NautArch

@Gwideon I had asked someone before about this (will search for it), but good paints/brushes (which you'll need for good painting) aren't super cheap.

goodguy5

You might find a hobby shop that let's your pay for painting.

The one by me does that every so often... 2 weeks, maybe?

user15026

This reminds me I have a whole box of troll minis I need to paint someday.

user15026

I think they were trolls.

user15026

5:11 PM

If you lived near me, @Gwideon, I'd just give you my paints and stuff, as I'm not using them at the moment :P

NautArch

Jun 28 '18 at 15:57, by Maximillian

This is my go-to brand and this specific kit has given me everything I need for years: https://www.amazon.com/Vallejo-Game-Color-Basic-Paint/dp/B009LH0YTA

KorvinStarmast

@NautArch Thanks, that's what I was recalling

NautArch

$200 aint a small investment, tho

KorvinStarmast

@Gwideon Here is a Q&A on the topic

And an answer for a modest budget is here

NautArch

When someone gets rep back after the system recognizes serial voting, does the serial downvoter get their rep back, too?

KorvinStarmast

5:24 PM

@NautArch Have you been the victim of serial down voting?

NautArch

@KorvinStarmast I have in the past, but saw that someone else in here had brought it up and it got me thinking.

KorvinStarmast

@NautArch Might be a decent meta question, though I suspect SO/SE have a blog post or meta post that answers this

NautArch

yeah, that's my hunch, too

It also got me thinking about what if someone uses the same logic in multiple answers that someone else disagrees with. It's serial, but it's serial because the answers are serial. /shrug.

goodguy5

I'm willing to test it, if we can get a mod to not reprimand me, in the name of science.

or if a mod knows the answer

NautArch

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Q: What happens to a serial downvoter reputation?

I have seen what happens to a serial downvoter, but I have some "follow on" questions: I saw my top 3 answers downvoted yesterday, and the system decided that this was "serial downvoting" - reputation restored today. Now I am wondering: will the downvoter get back his 3 points as well? Or are t...

discussion reputation serial-voting

Yuuki

5:33 PM

@NautArch I occasionally forget that "reputation" is what "rep" is short for.

NautArch

@Yuuki Repetitions?

goodguy5

team... how do you spell the word for gathering cattle.... "corale" was my guess, but has a red underline

@goodguy5 corral

ty

np

5:34 PM

Also "herding".

goodguy5

@Yuuki yes, but I specifically wanted the c word

Yuuki

@goodguy5 Culling?

Someone_Evil

@goodguy5 Is gathering a verb or an adjective in that sentence? With the latter I think it is "ominous"

goodguy5

that's grim!

I was typing the sentence "whenever I can ___ enough players", looking for the word corral.

NautArch

incarcerating?

Xirema

5:39 PM

Contaminating.

Confining.

Coercing.

goodguy5

conflagrating

NautArch

@goodguy5 we having a bbq?

Someone_Evil

Coagulate

goodguy5

Delicious long pork

NautArch

@KorvinStarmast Debating about trying to put an answer to your warlock feat. But i'm pretty sure it's not balanced.

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5:55 PM

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Q: Is gaining 1 AC in exchange for disadvantage on perception checks a balanced trade?

Inspired by this answer, and to avoid lengthy back and forth comments, I decided to make this a question in itself. You can put on your helmet for +1 AC and disadvantage on perception checks. In combat, this'll likely mean -5 to your passive perception. I believe that this is a pretty amazing ...

dnd-5e balance homebrew armor

goodguy5

same. but I can't figure out why.

tbh, I think it's the stat increase.

Also, imo, should be "Eldritch Adept", not "Arcane Adept"

Gwideon

yay I'm getting comments on dead posts

Someone_Evil

@Gwideon If you're getting comments on them, they are not dead

Gwideon

they've been dead for a bout a month

goodguy5

Clearly, someone is a necromancer.

NautArch

6:09 PM

I don't think necromancy is 30 days...isn't it longer?

Someone_Evil

I believe our badge uses 60

Gwideon

it is annoying because the commentor decided to accuse me of victim blaming

anyways I'm gonna move on

NautArch

@Gwideon link?

Gwideon

meta.stackexchange.com/a/336627/622332 it is meta so um yeah. kinda wanting to move on cause meta stuff is annoying and anxiety inducing

NautArch

@Gwideon I"ll respect that, but I really think meta isn't a healthy place for you. It seems to really impact you. Letting folks re-engage you and drag you back down isn't doing you any favors.

Gwideon

6:17 PM

yeah

trying to keep my interactions with that site short

NautArch

@Gwideon I'd very much recommend not interacting at all.

Gwideon

i just don't want people to misinterpret my points

user15026

I'd honestly leave it.

NautArch

^

user15026

No matter what you say, someone's gonna spin it their way, and it's not worth the harm to yourself.

NautArch

6:19 PM

You're not going to be able to do that. The way to prevent misinterpretation is not to engage at all. There will always be someone looking to read it in a way you didn't mean.

Gwideon

yeah i guess your right

user15026

6:39 PM

I know it feels like you're letting them win or what have you but honestly, there's no way to engage safely or productively, and knowing when to go "okay, yep, this is not healthy" is important. :)

nitsua60

6:50 PM

@Gwideon I won't say too much (trying to stay on the right side of Be Nice), but I'd severely discount the comment about victim-blaming based on its author. I don't recommend trolling through their "contributions" to meta discussion; I'll say they've given me a very bad impression of a bad faith user trying to poke/annoy/incense people.

NautArch

Thinking about adding something to my answer here.

Xirema

@nitsua60 Gonna second this. Also looked at their posting history, would also not recommend taking things they say in good faith.

NautArch

Seems like trade-offs are better when they're directly related. Like gwm/ss -5/+10

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