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8:01 PM
The harder thing is when someone rolls an 18 (or more than one) and someone else doesn't. But then that goes back to the difference not mattering that much.
 
As said, I generally don't trust people not to be jealous.

Maybe the current group I'm running, but a lot of them are/were newbies, so point buy
 
@goodguy5 I"ve been amazed at how quickly the jealousies end once you're just into playing. No one is watching the sheets as much. It's also partly why I like the proficiency die. It swings your stats.
 
That depends on your people.
but I understand
And I've though about the proficiency dice, but generally don't play with people who roll efficiently in the first place. So I try not to add another layer of "okay let me roll and add this other die"
it drives me crazy
 
@goodguy5 My players have a hard enough time just rolling a d20 and telling me what they got without adding anything, adding another die would slow it down a lot.
 
haha yea
I can definitely see why a lot of early 0ed games had the DM roll everything
 
8:08 PM
@GreySage woof
that's pretty frightening
then again, there's someone i play with that for nearly a year would always ask "what do I roll for an attack again?"
 
This one guy I play with is a hunter ranger and he's always struggling with hunters mark and giant killer and his off hand attack (AND THE PALADIN IS ALWAYS BLESSING HIM)
I've decided as of last session that I'm not baby sitting him anymore.
he can remember his own mechanics or be less effective
 
yeah, put on their big boy pants
 
@goodguy5 That is one of the reasons I think a party of all NPC classes (from that UA yesterday) could be nice. Super simple.
 
I mean....
They could also just be basic edition classes
 
@goodguy5 Do you mean no sub-class?
 
8:16 PM
No. the basic rules had a champion fighter, life cleric, ....... evocation? wizard and thief rogue.
hrm, angry dm article got pushed to the news feed again, I wonder why.
 
@goodguy5 For the 3rd time today, actually
 
@GreySage COLLUSION
 
@NautArch careful throwing that word around.
you got me excited for a second
 
@goodguy5 hehe, sorry.
 
8:35 PM
Got the table down to a more reasonable size.
Only shows the character progression now.
 
8:58 PM
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@goodguy5 Reload the page, maybe? Works for me after a refresh.
 
and there it is
 
9:15 PM
I had to regenerate the table like 5 times to fix mistakes. Am very glad I added an output to csv function.
 
@Xirema Does that make it the Sylvester McCoy table?
 
@BESW I'm not sure if I'm too old or too young to understand that reference.
 
No, my bad, it's the Colin Baker table. oooh.
 
@BESW don't you mean "whooooo"
 
(Doctor Who joke. The main character, the Doctor, is an alien who "regenerates" their body and personality every time the TV show changes main actors. Colin Baker was the sixth actor to play the Doctor, for 1984 to 86, meaning the character had regenerated five times.)
@NautArch 🎵 ooo-ooooo-ooo, it's Doooctor Whooo. (biddidy-bum, biddidy-bum, biddidy-bum)
 
9:26 PM
At some point, I'm gonna try to start a blog for this stuff. Partly because I want to show off, but partly because I want my process documented somewhere so someone can figure out how I'm getting it wrong.
 
@Xirema Have you ever considered writing code in R or python?
You seem to be at the inflection point of gdocs or excel where it usually makes sense to start writing code.
 
@ColinGross It is code. Written in both Java and C++. I wrote a few subroutines to export into a CSV format that Excel can pick up, along with a LaTEX format for Stack Exchange.
(I have two complete versions of the code, one in C++, one in Java. I prototype in Java and then refine it in C++)
 
9:43 PM
@Xirema Is there a good java framework for stats? Doing that work seem painfully manual in either of those languages.
 
@ColinGross I wrote my own framework. 8)
It's still a bit more kludgy than I want it to be though./
 
@Xirema Gotcha.
 
That's what the code to generate the Eldritch Knight stats looks like.
 
@Xirema Your coding practices differ from those I would approve of.
 
I have an idea of what that might be, but what specifically do you disapprove of?
 
9:49 PM
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Q: Why is there a blanket ban on designer intent questions when the issue is only with a subset of rpg systems?

WibbsThis question comes out of a discussion of the following question: Should we add 'designers intent' questions to the “don't ask” questions list on the tour? In Dopplgreener's answer he states '...designer reasons only demonstrably failed for D&D and similar. There's some history for desig...

 
(I'm assuming like 30% alone is just the factory pattern I've decided to write)
 
10:02 PM
@BESW has anyone added those lyrics to that opening before?
I don't mean like fans but officially
 
No, the closest I'm aware of to official lyrics is Jon Pertwee's 1972 single "Who is the Doctor".
 
@Xirema The default roll is your roll six numbers, 4d6 drop 1, and then assign those numbers to stats. If the player assigns a -4 score to Con, sit down with them and explain the issue. Or don't, and let the PC die young.
@NautArch It is for spell DC
 
@BESW fair enough, I do like that one though
 
Same, it's great! But I also have a soft spot for the Scottish Falsetto Sock Puppet Theater lyrics.
 
10:25 PM
of course
 
@KorvinStarmast Truly, Con should never be a dump stat. Which leads to the question: Why do we even roll for Con? It shouldn't even be a thing, PCs should get based on their class alone, and we should roll with 5 Ability Scores.
 
Yes, remove CON modifiers from health calculation.
 
Just make HP hitdie+2 or something, or adjust all damage down 2 and have hp = hitdie alone.
 
11:01 PM
I don't know--I don't worry that much about CON. HP... I've played plenty of 5e characters that rarely even get below half HP once they're into their archetype. The saves are more the thing for me in 5e....
But heck, I'm still thinking back to my very first character which was a 1-hp fighter.
Took months to get to level 2 and roll another precious hit die =)
 
11:27 PM
It may have something to do with a paradigm shift in the way the game thinks about low-level characters.
Up into 3.5 there was a strong sense that low-level characters were not yet heroes, that the first few levels were about finding out whether they would survive long enough to become powerful adventurers.
And part of the "is this one going to survive long enough to find glory" equation was a psuedo-Darwinian notion that some folks are just naturally more suited to adventuring than others--and rolling for stats was a major way to determine that.
In the last decade D&D has been more interested in assuming your PC is a hero, or will be a hero, rather than in testing to find out whether they will be a hero.
But 5e's striving to evoke "tradition" D&Dness means they threw out 4e's mostly-standardized hp and went back to the previous mechanics without necessarily understanding that they've shifted away from the ethos those mechanics embodied.
(in 4e, your starting HP was your con score --not modifier-- plus a number determined by your class, and it increased by a flat number determined by your class every level.)
 
11:56 PM
Yes
But con also factored into the healing surges
And could be used for one of the defenses
And even attack if you were one of a few particular classes
It was still useful but you didn't need it
Unless it factored into your particular build
I definitely preferred that way
 
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