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12:00 AM
@BESW peer leadership is one of the hardest kinds. It is so much a function of personality and group "tone" ... I never had a hard time speaking up, some people never speak up, and there's a whole lot of ground in between.
@MikeQ Foot is also high in protein. (How do I know that, I wonder?) 8^p
 
12:24 AM
@sevensideddie my tongue-in-cheek answer: play bridge. The person managing the contract has too much going on to chat at all, the dummy's free to be a chatty Cathy, the opposition can chat casually, and those roles all rotate each hand =)
 
1:22 AM
@Ben done.
 
Ben
Ty!
 
Np =)
 
1:53 AM
Wow that's a lot of stuff
 
Ben
Programming, my friend.
And all that deliberation effectively led nowhere for one person, and to a potential solution for another.
Lol
 
2:12 AM
Lol
I still don't have the hang of the programming I've practiced
To be fair though, I don't spend too much free time on it, and at work I already have learn something new and complicated every other month and teach it to other people
 
Ben
@trogdor What language? I think I remember this conversation
 
Ben
2:31 AM
C++, wasn't it?
 
HTML 5
And JavaScript
I've probably brought it up before
 
Ooof. Web programming as your first experience with programming is pretty rough.
 
Yeah. Definitely start with BASIC. It's right there in the name.
 
Gah.
 
(I definitely didn't write a D&D chargen program in BASIC in the mid-80s. No-sir-ee-Bob.)
 
2:35 AM
hey there @nitsua60
 
The objectively best language to learn first is Pascal, because it's what I learned first XD
 
@Miniman lol
 
(Every once in a while when I want to troll the CS teacher here I find a precocious student and point them toward the GOTO-implementations of control sequences.)
@Shalvenay Hiya--how's life?
 
If I was being serious, the actual argument isn't "which language first", it's "C++ first vs something else first". I'm still not sure which side I'm on.
 
@nitsua60 alright here, how about you? any update on the 12/1 vs 12/8 situation for when we're having a game?
 
2:38 AM
BASIC ... uh, try writing a 2d graphics (motion) project in BASIC. Yeah, did it, but that's about 40 years ago and I still shudder at the memory. No, I did not get an A on that project.
 
@Miniman yeah. I'd probably go with something else first, to get people into the basics without having them trip over sharp edges so much
 
[checking calendar...]
 
@nitsua60 If you need/want a proofreader for your project, you have my email. Free.
Layout ... you'll need a different set of eyes.
 
@Shalvenay Yeah, me too. Except that a lot of people never learn about pointers, and will therefore never completely understand pass-by-reference vs pass-by-value.
 
@KorvinStarmast Oh, thank you. My rough goal is to have a first draft cobbled together by Christmastime.
 
2:41 AM
@Miniman I agree there -- I would have them learn C or even an assembler as their second language
 
@Miniman That's one of those things where I get the theory (I think), but have never had to build something where it mattered enough to feel like I really get it.
 
Ben
@trogdor [GASP.gif]
@Miniman Seconded.
 
@Miniman the problem with something like Pascal as a first language I think would be the difficulties of trying to get stuff done in it
 
There may be others I started with
Those are just the two I could find reference to me working on them specifically in a couple minutes
 
My brother started with Fortran, he currently does back end work for big database stuff for big blue
 
2:43 AM
@Shalvenay You might be thinking of Haskell there.
 
@Miniman no, not really -- Pascal has problems AIUI like "the standard library has like nothing in it" :P
Haskell is a different sort of "get stuff done" problem
you really need to learn shell-and-core architecture to use Haskell properly
 
@Shalvenay I'd argue that that's a good thing for a first language.
 
Ben
Oh hang on... vague memories throwing up flags... Delphi Pascal != Pascal...?
 
@Ben Similar relationship to C and C#.
 
@Miniman I would say starting really simple is a good thing yeah
 
2:49 AM
@Miniman the other issue I have with Pascal as a first language is the paradigm restrictions that it imposes -- doesn't grow with you very well in terms of covering territory
AIUI
 
@Shalvenay Not sure what you mean by that.
 
Ben
@Miniman Right.
 
@Miniman I'd think you'd want to get folks exposed to multiple paradigms fairly early on, so they don't get locked into a pure-imperative or pure-OO mindset
 
@Shalvenay Hmmm. Maybe it's a result of how I learned, but I see imperative as the fundamental form of programming, with functional and OO being different ways of packaging chunks of program.
 
@Miniman well, for OO that has merit, but for FP that can be a bit sticky due to pure/impure separations.
there's also what can be called "FauxO" which combines FP immutability with OO encapsulation
(so instead of a method returning a reference to an altered self, it returns a brand-new thing that's a copy of the existing thing with some stuff changed)
 
2:58 AM
I mean, there are restrictions on what a function can do, but when you get right down to it, it's a chunk of code that gets run when you call the function.
 
Ben
Oh.. my.. god. Gotta love those moments when you spend half n hour trying to figure out why it's not doing the thing, then you realise, it's because you never even added the code to do the thing in the first place.
 
TIL Mississippi has 82 counties. 82! My state only has 8 =(
 
@nitsua60 IIRC, we have counties bigger than your state (CT) for sure some bigger than Rhode Island.
 
@KorvinStarmast I would assume so. Even though you have two hundred fifty-something of them!
 
The smaller ones are in the east, bigger out west
@nitsua60 didn't you used to live in Houston area?
 
3:03 AM
@KorvinStarmast I mean, I've done the Houston-El Paso drive. I think you have townships bigger than my state!
 
Arrgh, that one's a back breaker
 
@KorvinStarmast I didn't, but my dad was on a project down in Galveston-area for a while, so I've been a bunch of times. (Godparents lived in Houston many years, best friend married an Arlington girl, &c.)
 
@nitsua60 The San Diego CA to Corpus Christi drive was a bugger: Mrs starmast's mom and dad are from CC. Kids born in SD.
Corpus to El Paso. El Paso to SD. two long, hard days with kids. (And they ask why I drink...)
 
@KorvinStarmast Yeah... distances west vs. east of the Appalachians are just... different.
I did love how easy directions were, living out west. "Driving from boulder to Minneapolis? Easy: head south. Take a left at Denver. Take a left at Kansas City. Stop at Minneapolis."
=)
 
Aye. Just read a neat book about how America got connected. I am done with it, would like to send it to you for free. Maybe one of your kids can read it for junior high or high school reading project.
 
3:07 AM
@KorvinStarmast Sure--I'll drop a mailing address to your e-mail? Thanks!
 
@nitsua60 Good plan, let's do that.
May send you other texas goodies. (you have a favorite brand of salsa?)
 
Pace.
[ducks thrown jar of salsa]
 
Ben
@nitsua60 cough
 
@nitsua60 Same as my wife, who is from Texas. I Kid You not.
@Ben man, that's a lot of counties
 
@KorvinStarmast Actually, I've got to be honest: I can't think of the last time I noticed a salsa brand. I do prefer red to green, though.
 
3:10 AM
Are any of them administered by a crocodile.
 
@Ben Everything's bigger in Australia, no?
 
@nitsua60 I'll find you something local, red. Many choices.
@nitsua60 Hot, medium, mild?
 
Ben
@nitsua60 The average height of an Australian is 9"3'.
 
@KorvinStarmast Medium, if you please.
@Ben Depth, not height, right? 'cause they're upside-down?
 
@Ben That's Koala sized. @nitsua60 Got it. @Ben My sister's in Aus this week, coming home tomorrow
 
Ben
3:12 AM
@KorvinStarmast What part, do you know?
@nitsua60 True :P
 
@Ben Last pics were from sydney opera house, two days ago
Wallaby earlier in the week
 
@Ben Ignore this nonsense, the average height of an Australian is 3m.
 
@Miniman I've met Patty Mills, not true. And he's a basketball player. (San Antonio Spurs)
He's very popular in San Antone.
 
@KorvinStarmast We kicked him out for being too short :P Alternatively, he's from Canberra, which everyone knows doesn't exist.
 
@Miniman Makes perfect sense, now that you reveal how Pop got his hands on him.
Isn't a canberra a jet from the RAF?
 
Ben
3:17 AM
@Miniman Translating for those that don't use the metric system :P
 
about 10' tall, which Patty ain't.
My wife's favorite Australian was Ian Baker Finch. I used to watch a bit of golf when he was in his prime. If Ian was playing, she'd sit next to me .. but swoon when he was on screen.
 
@KorvinStarmast I had to look that one up!
 
@Miniman I had to know that for aircraft recognition in the 80's, because they were still being flown ...
... and the RAF were allegedly our allies.
 
@Ben I don't even know what that means :P
 
Ben
@KorvinStarmast It was named after the plane that crashed there, carrying a strain of intelligent fungus called "politicia"
 
3:22 AM
@Ben That explains the weird canopy, to be sure.:p
 
@Ben Pretty sure the intelligence was found to be a hoax. People will believe anything if it comes from Australia.
 
@Miniman I did a world history and social studies project in 9th grade. It was on Australia. I won a prize. (Worth about 5 dollar US at the time). I still think Ned Kelly was misunderstood, and for my money Mick Jagger wasn't the right man for that movie.
And I am a dyed in the wool rolling stones fan
 
Ben
@KorvinStarmast And Ben Hall the Bushranger was known for his gentlemanly demeanour
 
@Ben bushranger, as a bit of slang, may mean something different in Aus than it does here.
 
Ben
Touche
 
3:27 AM
Amazon has a bunch of 5e stuff on sale. (All-time lows below are from camelcamelcamel.com's price history tool.)
The Monster Manual is currently on sale on Amazon at its lowest price ever (there) of $21.99
SCAG is as well, at $18.31
Xanathar's Guide to Everything is $22.43
Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes is $22.89
HOTDQ (adventure) is $13.73 (oddly, the sequel Rise of Tiamat is literally the highest price it's ever been on Amazon at $25.45)
Tomb of Annihilation (adventure) is $22.48

Some fairly new releases are their lowest price so far, too:
 
Ben
But to be fair, that was their "title"... I suppose the equivalent for you is "highwayman"
 
(sorry for the wall of text :P )
 
I may get another PHB .. and @Ben yeah, that sounds about right
 
Ben
@Miniman sorry - "parasitic" was what I meant to say
 
That Art & Arcana "book" is a ripoff at any price. It's not worth the disappointment one feels at looking at an Elmore cover titled Art & Arcana and getting, like, a dozen full-page splashes with writeups that could have been taken from WP.
 
3:34 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer (346): How can a vampire avoid destruction by direct sunlight? by Mark on rpg.SE
 
Hmm... Amazon writeup is not looking anything like the thing I have in my hand titled the same, with the same cover, but is a staple-bound 30-pager.
Parhaps I'll holster my ire.
(I guess this is some sort of promo-thing I was given?)
 
@nitsua60 I am not sure. The thing on amazon I was thinking of getting for my older brother
 
Ben
The fungus is similar to the Cordyceps fungus - aka the "Zombie Ant" fungus
 
@KorvinStarmast "700+ draft images and sketches" and "40 interviews with artists" sounds a lot better than this thing. Mine must be a promo. (I was given it as a thank-you by a con organizer.)
 
@nitsua60 Free is often worth what you pay for it. :)
 
3:38 AM
@nitsua60 I recall seeing something like that at my FLGS recently, and it was comparably thick sitting next to the 5e core rule books.
 
@KorvinStarmast Like I said: it cost me in disappointment... =\
 
@Ben OK, now I need to research the zombie ant fungus more. Seems quite monstrous.
Already bought my nephew the Dungeon of mad mage book for xmas.
arrgh, dogs need a walk, nite all!
 
Ben
@KorvinStarmast In all honesty it's kinda fascinating. It's as if the fungus has some degree of actual intelligence, due to the behaviour of the ant
 
Authors include Michael Witwer and Jon Peterson. Jon's Playing at the World is a monstrously-impressive treatise on the history of RPGs that's worthy of a PhD. Witwer's Empire of Imagination is... not.
 
Ben
@KorvinStarmast o/
 
3:53 AM
@nitsua60 Reviews look fairly positive - why the disappointment?
 
@Miniman Reviews of Empire?
 
@nitsua60 Yeah.
Or is it just that it doesn't measure up to the standard of Playing?
 
The two big things I remember (from about 2 years ago, maybe?):
1. There are large (laaarge) jumps in time. Like it feels like Witwer just had a half-dozen decently-sourced episodes he could write about, but they don't quite make for a full-feeling story. I mean, there's a business growing and spinoff products and an edition fork that could have been written about... but it's like someone just picked six scenes from Gary's life/work to talk about and left out a lot of the connecting tissue. (Jumping from Hollywood-Gary to TSR-ouster-Gary, for instance, IIRC.)
@Miniman I mean, nothing's going to compare to Playing. Peterson wrote a textbook. Collegiate-level, for that.
I'm not kidding when I say it should have been his dissertation for a PhD in American History>20th-century American business>recreation&games.
 
Ben
4:14 AM
Ok, hypothetical user experience question for anyone that wants to contribute
A program does a thing once, asks you if the output is ok, and if you want to continue with the rest.
Should I explain why it does that? Probably only in the help file, etc.
 
what's the thing it does? who's the audience?
 
....I can't know if I'd want to know the reason until I know the reason.
 
Ben
@V2Blast the output is a table - csv or excel spreadsheet.
it scans a bunch of files for data and build the table from that
 
also are you talking about explaining why it asks you if the output is okay before continuing?
 
Ben
So, the program scans a file - says "these are your headers, is this ok?"
The norm, is that the headers should be what shows up in the list. 90% of the time, the user won't see the 10% of the files that have different headers
 
4:20 AM
What if it's not ok?
 
Ben
@MikeQ You can fix the issue, if that's the case
 
Yes, it should verify instead of assuming that the user got the input formats right.
 
Ben
But either way, this notification will occur.
The assumption though, is that there is absolutely no reason to expect them to be different
 
The assumption should also be that humans are unreasonable.
 
What happens differently if I answer "Yes it's ok" versus "No it's not ok" ?
 
Ben
4:23 AM
So from the normal situation, this notification would appear to be redundant
 
I would rather click an extra button 100% of the time than have 10% of my outputs be wrong.
 
Ben
@MikeQ Yes it's ok - continue as normal. No it's not, user can remedy, and then continue
@BESW Yeah, that's fair. My question though is should I explain why that button is there? Only the developers would understand the need for it otherwise.
And the 10% of users
 
Hmm. MSO thinks the purpose of that sort of verification is self-evident.
So there's an industry standard saying "no, don't explain," but I'd urge you to also consider the source.
 
@BESW The danger with this is if you see this popup 100% of the time, you'll start to habitually click through it
 
Ben
@JoelHarmon Fortunately, in this case, the people that do won't be working in the same job much longer. Lol
 
4:28 AM
Since the alternative seems to be "never have the button, let the chips fall where they may" or possibly "pop up the button randomly," I tend to fall on the side of user agency.
@Ben Maybe a little "Why is this here?" with a hyperlink to the relephant FAQ/help
 
Ben
@BESW Yes, that's what I'm asking. Haha
 
Then... why not include it?
 
I don't know the context, so is there an option to say "hey, this is different than the last time it ran!"?
 
Ben
The specifics of the case, is that users can enter information into a table. The format of that table is in a specific structure, that the user created. However, when the file is created with this information stored in it, the recorded information is entered in order that the table was filled in.
So you *know* the table is 1,2,3,4,etc.

But the order in which you filled it in, and thus, the order the information was recorded, is 4,3,1,2
But that is only 10 files out of 100 that were entered in this order
@BESW That's a solid point
Oh wow.
Brb. Drowning.
 
4:44 AM
Dang australia
 
Ben
4 hours ago the shy was clear.
20 mins ago the clouds started to show over the hills
 
Ben
5:09 AM
And now we're all done
Sky is clear once more
 
5:54 AM
Sounds pretty similar to here sometimes
 
Ben
@trogdor Yeah @BESW was saying the same. "Horseshoe toss with the weather" haha
 
Yeah
I can't help but think some of that is due to climate change
 
6:19 AM
@Ben I'd say to include the dialog box/message, but clarify what they should be checking (e.g. "Please make sure the data is displayed in the proper order." or whatever)
Just bought Xanathar's and Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica.
Amazon also has a $5 off coupon code for a book purchase of $20 or more, and I also had a $25 gift card, so it ended up at just $17.99 after everything with free shipping
 
Ben
6:36 AM
@V2Blast Yeah. @BESW made the good point of "why not include it?" if the situation is that it's a 1/10 catch situation, there's not reason not to have it for the other 9.
 
Ben
That's always something to look forward to. Functionality revisions to your program.
Re-written it 3 times this week. Lol
 
 
6 hours later…
1:44 PM
I got my standing desk, my dudes
o/
morning, Moose
Does anyone know of good map tools that you can interact with? Like if I click on a region, I can get other information about the region?

I'm honestly thinking of making an excel sheet and then just writing in the cells
 
2:06 PM
@goodguy5 morning!
@goodguy5 Just for clarity, you are talking about RPG maps?
 
@goodguy5 Like a GIS system for RPG maps?
 
@NautArch looks like nobody came up with any other answer for that Bard crit question.
 
@Rubiksmoose i'll try and take a look today maybe. Had a game night last night so didn't have time
ended with me flying right into a trap and failing a bread and butter save.
 
@Rubiksmoose @NautArch I am talking about rpg maps, but I don't know what GIS is
 
@NautArch Does failing a bread and butter save give you moldy bread or no bread?
 
2:19 PM
@goodguy5 Georgraphic Information System allow you to create maps with layers of information
@Rubiksmoose I shall find out on Sunday :/ Charisma save of a 22 DC. I have a 9+d12 to that save. I rolled a 3 on the d20 and 1 on the d12.
 
I might look at it as well given I'm no longer repcapped and I seem to have been able to put a stop to all the comments on my telportation circle dc answer. Seriously, I've had the mods clean them out 3 times and started a chat. I made an edit that hopefully makes it very clear.
 
@NautArch ah, then yes
 
@NautArch That is some pretty awful rolling there partner.
 
@Rubiksmoose and I rolled a 1 for my steed. SO yeah. Badnewsbears coming next session.
Thankfully, our barbarian and sorcerer who were with me made their saves thanks to my aura.
but steed and failed miserably, very concerned about that.
 
@goodguy5 fwiw I also had no idea what GIS meant. I'm also pretty much completely unfamiliar with digital RPG tools since we pretty much banned remote play in our group.
 
2:26 PM
We were having to 'climb' up a cliff face, but I was ferrying everyone but the barbarian who wanted to climb up. There was a ledge after a difficult section and I went to check it out before the barbarian got there. :/
 
@Rubiksmoose I only want it for keeping track of my world map
 
@NautArch uh oh, that is definitely not good.
 
@Rubiksmoose Well, GIS isn't a digital RPG tool :)
 
I have zones and countries. cities, etc
 
2:27 PM
Fair enough. Let me put it this way: I have no ideas here lol
 
Wow, and apparently the big name in the biz has considered this: esri.com/arcgis-blog/products/arcgis-online/analytics/…
 
ugh, so expensive
but thanks naut
 
yeah, esri is the real deal, but searches around GIS and RPG might net you something more than just that indiegogo.
not sure if that's what you're looking for, but maps with information layers is what GIS is all about
that smite spell question is a cool one. makes me consider prepping branding smite for it. Our light cleric almost always has their Corona of Light going, so I just prepped Blinding smite to take advantage of the disadvantage created by it.
@Rubiksmoose I definitely need to think about the defensive flourish question, but I think it's going to be Ask Your DM because the rules really aren't clear.
 
3:22 PM
@Rubiksmoose GIS seems like overkill for fantasy maps.
Also, those include the peculiarities of living on a globe. Most fantasy systems don't explicitly deal with that, and flat maps of flat worlds are much easier to deal with than flat projections of globes.
 
@ColinGross my D&D world is explicitly flat.
Well... technically reeses cup shaped, but w/e
 
actually... I have played with the idea to design maps by jsut defining continental plates and their shift direction, instead of designing the landmass, and then have a computer model figure out how the land will look like... but never found a program that could model that.
 
I had toyed with the idea of a Dyson sphere world.
And the "outer planes" would be regions of the outside shell.
 
A dyson sphere? inside is no gravity, outside there is
and the inside would be very very hot
 
@Trish It wouldn't be hard sci-fi.
 
3:28 PM
@Yuuki oh it IS. gravity inside a hollow sphere is 0.
 
Dragons also don't exist.
 
inside a dyson sphere, there IS NO GRAVITY.
 
I think you parsed that wrong. I didn't say "It wouldn't be hard, sci-fi", I said "It wouldn't be <hard sci-fi>".
 
hard scifi says: there is no gravity in dyson spheres. you can however use the spin of the sphere to generate forces that keep objects on the sphere
 
AS IN MY SETTING WOULD NOT BE HARD SCI-FI.
 
3:31 PM
you would have two zones that are close to 0G in spinning (the poles), but those would be also the best for launching to space XD
 
Oh man, I hope you never find out about Elder Scroll cosmology, you would have an aneurysm.
 
@Yuuki So, anything on either side would be attracted gravitationally to the inner/outer surface... because that's how gravity works? Sounds good.
 
@Yuuki no, I just put TES in the "Fantasy" box.
 
I'm so happy to see that stirge question
I've often theorized about the stirgemaster druid
 
@nitsua60 stuff like that gives me a headache though
 
3:33 PM
@nitsua60 Pretty much. I toyed with the idea of magic being the cause of why physics is so weird.
 
@Yuuki with magic it works.
 
Like gravity working the way it does because a massive and complex array of runes inscribed on the outside shell of the world.
But then I realized that the amount of worldbuilding and real-world physics justifications I was making was distracting me from actually tackling what I wanted to do narrative-wise.
Worldbuilding is definitely a super-fun distraction though.
 
@nitsua60 see the nasa site I linked: inside, the gravity from below your ass caceles out with the pull from all the sphere above your head pretty exactly. Unless magic limits the range on which gravity works (usually: unlimited), you are weightless.
 
I had actually written up a question on the implications of my day/night cycle to post on Worldbuilding.
 
3:36 PM
@Trish After struggling with QFT... "it's just magic" strikes me as a nice way to avoid headaches =)
 
8
Q: When and how would a Dyson sphere civilization in a fantasy setting learn size and shape of the sphere?

GOGWorking with this question but with more of a fantasy bent, I was wondering how long it would take a civilization to learn/realize that they lived on the inside of a Dyson sphere (or hollow earth or something similar) under the following circumstances: Light is provided by a central source tha...

 
@Yuuki just say "Inside the sphere, magic limits the range on which gravity works to X miles" where X is the radius of the sphere.
that way hard physics says "things get pulled to the ground"
(unless they get too close to the light source, at which point funny stuff starts to function: shoot stuff at an angle towards the sun and hit the opposite side of the sphere!)
 
@Trish That makes me feel like a Poincare-like metric might be your solution... =)
Or its inverse =\
[reaches for ibuprofen]
 
if you put a hard limit on the reach of gravity, crazy stuff happens, but it also becomes interesting XD
like, you slingshot your message to somebody 90° of you around the center because that is faster than shooting to it directly.
 
Elder Scrolls cosmology is fun.
 
3:44 PM
Does it bother anybody else that this question seems to have a mini-answer in their question? I understand why they wrote it this way, but I'm wondering if it would have been a better question without all of that and posted it as an answer instead. Thoughts?
 
Not pictured is the many pinprick holes in the skin of Aetherius that the aedra created in their escape from the formation of the world.
These holes are the stars.
The largest of these holes is the sun, Magnus, which is pictured.
 
@Rubiksmoose just bothers you
 
Correction, "et'Ada" not "aedra".
 
@goodguy5 hahaha fair enough.
 
The aedra were the group of spirits who both stayed during the formation of the world and sacrificed themselves to create it.
The daedra stayed but didn't help with the formation and instead created their own plane(t)s of existence.
"et'Ada" refers to all of them, "Magnus/Magna Ge" to the group that left.
 
3:49 PM
@Rubiksmoose Meh. It's more of a check my work kind of question. I think the answer for it is the right one. "your analysis is one sided."
 
@Yuuki actually, that model works out. the calculation says technically "The sphere canceles out the gravity of the sphere", not "there can be no gravity in a sphere". A mass in the center still has gravity with effect. Planets could exist inside the sphere.
 
@ColinGross It's definitely overkill, but layers of information on a map is what made me think of it.
 
We don't know for sure the Daedric Planes are actual planets though, IIRC.
 
@NautArch I've been having luck implementing maps in SVG. It's especially useful because I can write some pretty simple js to turn on and off layers at different viewport scales.
So, the village icons don't appear at the hightest "zoom" level, and the village names appear at the closest.
 
@Yuuki the area inside Aetherus is a very complex solar system with... prbably 2 or 3 black matter accumulations for planetoids to move around
one for Arkay, one for Zenithar...
 
3:55 PM
@Rubiksmoose I'm with you--I generally prefer substantial questions to "amirite" questions. Had thought to comment, but forgot to come back to it. I don't think it's a problem, it's just a class of questions I (personally) disfavor, tend not to upvote, and rarely even consider answering.
 
and some shenanigans that both Nirn and Aetherius rotate around the axis that stands on the plane that is put up by Arkay and Zenithar, making them seem fixed
 
@Rubiksmoose I had thought the same, but they were looking for confirmation on their analysis and not a general question asking for analysis. Either way, it feels kinda opinion-based, but that's just me.
Even the general belief that rangers are underpowered I think is opinion-based.
but the site likes the question, so meh.
 
@nitsua60 Yeah it rubs me the wrong way sometimes when it is a substantial amount of text. Because if the amirite is actually correct you end up with an answer that basically just says "yup you got it" and the answer actually ends up being in the question.
 

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