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Yuuki

2:03 PM

@Helwar Clearly they just want you to save one hit die so you can take a 9-hour short+long rest.

Helwar

@Tiggerous i like that fortress question. It looks like the kind of debates we have in our group :)

Tiggerous

@Helwar Yeah, it seems like a fairly fun one.

Yuuki

According to the RAW they posted, the instant fortress has to be placed on the ground.

A plate doesn't count.

Tiggerous

That's a possible answer to their question - if you want to write it up?

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch I'm talking just about this feature only. I thin it was an oversight on wording and they just forgot to include it. Is there even anything else that only recharges on a short rest?

Helwar

2:15 PM

@Yuuki it links at another question in the SE, the platedoes count as the ground :)

Yuuki

> Again... ground refers broadly to any solid continuous, contiguous surface on the planet. Terrain refers broadly to any solid continuous, contiguous surface that the characters or monsters move on (emphasis not mine).

?

Hmm...

One could argue that a plate in free-fall doesn't quite count as "on the planet".

Tiggerous

That was my exact thought, when reading that other answer.

Yuuki

Follows the same grammatically-based logic as the provided link.

Helwar

I dunno, if it was a floating island, yould you let they use the fortress?

it's not "on the planet" either

Yuuki

No, I wouldn't let them use the fortress there either.

Like you said, it's not "on the planet".

Tiggerous

2:21 PM

This rather reminds me of all of the Leomunds Tiny Hut questions.

Yuuki

Definition of "ground" aside, I would argue that the fortress can only expand on a surface that is at minimum capable of supporting its full size.

Helwar

I dunno, I would consider the ground on a floating island "ground". Like if I were in the astral plane, with it's subjective gravity and thingamajigs, there is "ground" there too. Maybe kilometres wide...

Yuuki

So if your plate can't fit a 40x40 sq. ft. steak, then you have a problem.

Helwar

@Yuuki that I can't argue with. I would allow it, if just for the funsies, but I'm sure it's not Intended

Yuuki

I'd say that there's nothing wrong with conjuring a 40x40 sq. ft. layer of dirt in mid-air atop which you expand the fortress.

And then you have your fortress meteor.

Which incidentally, as an improvised weapon, will do 1d4 damage.

Helwar

2:24 PM

@Yuuki I don't like that rule >_<

goodguy5

^

Helwar

If you somehow provoke a cave-in, a whole mountain falling on you it's 1d4 damage ¬¬

Yuuki

@Helwar Exactly.

Tiggerous

The Fortress already specifically does 10d10 damage to those in range when it expands.

Yuuki

And since thermonuclear device doesn't have an equivalent entry on the weapons table, the ensuing nuclear fireball only does 1d4 damage.

> to those in range

Tiggerous

2:25 PM

(Half on a succeddful DC15 Dex save)

Yuuki

> when it expands

After expansion, it doesn't do 10d10 damage to creatures it falls on.

Tiggerous

My point was, you're better off dropping it small and them expanding later.

Helwar

@Yuuki you could use it as a grenade. Throw it under the storm giant, say the word, instant genitalia crush

goodguy5

I'm a little surprised we don't have a tag for bonus-action

Yuuki

I'm pretty sure the improvised weapon rule applies to ranged weapons (i.e. thrown chairs, putting a coffee mug in your slingshot, etc.).

goodguy5

2:32 PM

I'm also a little disappointed that rouge resolves to rogue

SPavel

@goodguy5 Why?

Helwar

@goodguy5 someone is trying to end the obsession with red color from all the edgy members of our community

goodguy5

@SPavel seems like there are enough questions about bonus actions to warrant it

Tiggerous

It is a classic typo.

SPavel

@goodguy5 That's not what tags are for

goodguy5

2:36 PM

@SPavel are you sure?

SPavel

Tags are for allowing a community of interest to follow relevant questions. What community of interest exists around bonus actions, but not 5e as a whole?

Tags are not for labeling keywords or for search, the regular search works for that already.

Mike Q

^ While I agree with this point, we do have a lot of tags that defy this

goodguy5

shaman, for example

SPavel

That is not a good reason to make more bad tags.

goodguy5

that's for 4e, but still

then you should start petitioning to remove all bad tags

get to it

SPavel

2:38 PM

I don't use the main site

goodguy5

wait, what?

Sir Cinnamon

I dunno, there isnt much overhead on having excessive tags

doppelgreener

tagging is basically just a folksonomy that gets trimmed a bit occasionally

people tag what they feel needs to be tagged

Sir Cinnamon

if eventually it allows certain relevant questions to be grouped whats the harm

doppelgreener

a tag gets created when someone thinks that's a thing that ought to be tagged

Sir Cinnamon

2:38 PM

as long as a tag has consistent meaning

SPavel

the only tags i use are to annoy people in chat

Yuuki

Conversely, a tag gets deleted when someone thinks that's a thing that really doesn't need to be tagged.

SPavel

@doppelgreener If only people were as chill about other features, like starring

goodguy5

@SPavel but you've asked questions in the "main" site... and answered, for that matter.

Yuuki

@goodguy5 An argument could be made that it would be logical that someone would be an expert in how the shaman class works, but expecting someone to specialize in the detailed minutiae of bonus actions is... odd.

SPavel

2:40 PM

@goodguy5 Check the date

Yuuki

Not really an argument I care about, but I'm sure an argument along that line exists.

Maximillian

Bonus Action Man. A hero to everyone.

goodguy5

@SPavel what's your point? "do and don't" are binary options.

Yuuki

@goodguy5 You could always try.

SPavel

@goodguy5 So are present and past tense.

If you are going to get into a semantics argument, at least be consistently pedantic.

goodguy5

2:41 PM

So, you're saying that you are never using the main site again and that your usage is strictly in the past?

SPavel

@goodguy5 Future tense also exists

goodguy5

and that the current participle (might have misused that, I get confused) of "I do use the site" will no longer apply to you?

or, are you instead conjecturing that because one is not currently engaged at something, they cannot fall under the category of "I do" that thing?

such as, pooping?

"I do not poop" would be accurate under your view, because I am not pooping, at this moment in time?

doppelgreener

spavel is not presently using the main site for things, let's move on and discuss eagles?

or aggretsuko or something

goodguy5

I promise, unrelated to this,

@SPavel, where did you come down on this: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/115984/34716

SPavel

@goodguy5 What do you mean

goodguy5

2:45 PM

@SPavel What did you and your group decide to do?

SPavel

@goodguy5 We were not able to organize the game

goodguy5

aw T_T

I breached 1/3 of the way to Fanatic!!!! yisss

Mike Q

@doppelgreener I am the only person I know who didn't love it

SPavel

What is aggretsuko?

doppelgreener

@SPavel netflix TV show about a girl in the workplace who channels her rage through death metal

Maximillian

2:47 PM

A Netflix toon about a red panda who has problems at work.

doppelgreener

slice of live cartoon

goodguy5

hello kitty fox (vulpine, not news) version

Mike Q

@SPavel Slice of life about an office worker who vents by going to karaoke. Also everyone's an animal.

doppelgreener

@goodguy5 death metal red panda version

SPavel

Sounds awful

goodguy5

2:48 PM

oh, is she a red panda? my bad

Mike Q

@SPavel It's... okay. It's watchable.

Maximillian

It's a mix of cute and a little too real (workplace mistreatment).

But she finds a way to cope with it and move on.

Mike Q

It's cute because they're all cartoon animals

Maximillian

They're all Sanrio designs. Super adorable. Yet also mundanely adult.

They're short 15 minute episodes.

SPavel

I did finish Re:Zero though, and it surprised me by getting even better and then having the decency to end on time

Mike Q

2:49 PM

The plot is very boring (yet very relatable) and the "death metal" music is very tame. It's a single track played over and over, maybe with some simple words thrown in. Never seemed too creative. Also I watched in Spanish so maybe the lyrics didn't translate well?

Yuuki

urface is mundanely adult

SPavel

Although it didn't explore a loooot of the implications, but better too short than too long

Maximillian

Basically the point is working in an office can be your own personal hell.

SPavel

Namely: The NEET who suddenly finds himself in a fantasy world does not immediately learn magic or whatever and become the strongest hero; rather his skills are pathetic and he is defeated by everybody

Yuuki

isekai is a dumpster fire and everything in that genre needs to be exiled to deep space

SPavel

2:52 PM

The way he wins is not by abusing "mechanics" or getting swole or whatever, but by organizing people who are better than him to go accomplish the things, which is a really good moral: social skills are stronk

Sadly it does still have a lot of the cringey anime tropes but overall I'd say 7/10

Mike Q

@SPavel The show's been mentioned here a few times. Maybe I'll check it out.

SPavel

@MikeQ It's only 25 episodes

Yuuki

From what I've heard of Re:Zero, this guy is basically a NEET in name only.

SPavel

And the first episode is actually quite strong

@Yuuki He definitely has the mindset as well

Helwar

@Yuuki NEET?

SPavel

2:54 PM

@Helwar Not engaged in education, employment, or training

Basically, antisocial shut-in

Helwar

@SPavel Ohhh it's "NiNi" here in spain :)

Mike Q

@SPavel It's hard to judge based on the first episode. A lot of isekai stories have a strong opening, but then they just don't... go anywhere with the plot.

Yuuki

@Helwar It's kinda like the Japanese equivalent of the Western "adult person living in parents' basement" trope.

SPavel

@MikeQ Sure but the inverse - series that start off like a dumpster fire - are even worse

Re:Zero is consistent, maaaaybe it flags in the middle a little bit but it starts off well

Yuuki

3 mins ago, by Yuuki

isekai is a dumpster fire and everything in that genre needs to be exiled to deep space

Mike Q

2:55 PM

@SPavel Wouldn't the inverse be something that starts off terrible but then gets really good?

SPavel

@MikeQ Yes, but I can't stand those series

If anything, the series deserves props for showing a fairly realistic response from an average person to repeatedly and painfully dying

Mike Q

Last Airbender had a weak opening

SPavel

Subaru never goes "ok I got used to this and now I'm just going to savescum through life"

@MikeQ No it didn't

Sokka vs Zuko best fight in the series

Actually no, second best, after Appa vs Momo samurai showdown

Mike Q

@SPavel I agree that the Appa vs Momo fight was the best in the series

SPavel

1. Appa vs Momo
2. Zuko vs Sokka
3. Melon Lord vs Gaang

Maximillian

3:00 PM

General Iroh was my favorite. :P

SPavel

And then it's just a list of all the scenes Toph is in

Mike Q

4. Anything vs Cabbage guy's cart

SPavel

Mike Q

Ok, the first episode wasn't dumpster fire bad, but compared to the rest of the series, it was campy as a summer camp

Maximillian

I took 12 hp of damage, better eat 24 cabbages.

SPavel

3:01 PM

You're watching a cartoon about a bald tween that can "bend wind"

Why do you want it to be serious

The premise is a fart joke

Mike Q

I'm trying to think of serials that start terrible and then become good

SPavel

@MikeQ Community, Parks and Rec, Fringe

nitsua60

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A: Do we want a [total-party-kill]?

Keep the tag: we've got browsers, too. Users don't only come here when they've a specific question, but also to browse around in a repository of high-quality analysis and advice. While searching for "TPK" will likely get you a good sampling, utilizing a TPK tag would provide users another avenue...

(my $0.02 on the bonus-actions discussion)

Mike Q

@SPavel Is the show funny at all?

SPavel

@MikeQ Re:Zero? It's funny in the way that action anime tend to be funny, in that the main character occasionally has physical comedy inflicted upon him

goodguy5

3:14 PM

[How to quickly get into one-off characters](https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/122856/how-to-quickly-get-into-one-off-characters)

My first thought: "Buy them a drink first"

Mike Q

rimshot.mp3

Helwar

you don't need to know medicine to use a healer's kit? am I reading it well? roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Healer's%20kit#content

Gryphon

Given my previous question's closure, I'd like to ask if questions of this type are still on-topic here.

goodguy5

@MikeQ um, are we not doing phrasing anymore?

SPavel

@goodguy5 No

Gryphon

3:16 PM

By which I mean questions asking if a specific race/feature is balanced.

doppelgreener

9

Q: Are "is this balanced" questions on-topic?

Before I start: I thought about the matter when reading this answer to the How is the community doing? [2018] post, which claims a larger percentage of negative reactions towards homebrew questions compared to other questions, and also urges more open-mindedness towards homebrew questions. The la...

(yes)

SPavel

The new hotness is "title of your sex tape" (by the way, "the new hotness" is sadly not the title of my sex tape)

Gryphon

@doppelgreener Excellent. Just want to make sure.

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose not sure about items (have to check), but definitely abilities. And the boon is more of an ability.

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch Actually I did a search. There are no abilities that recharge only on a short rest (that don't already recharge on a long rest for other reasons) besides the boons.

At least not that I could find.

I believe that also coverers items as well actually.

NautArch

3:22 PM

@Rubiksmoose hmm, weird. everything does seem to say short or long rest. Unclear if that was a typo or on purpose though for the boon.

Actually, ALL of the boons are short rest only.

SO if this was a mistake, they made it multiple times.

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch Yup. I noticed that as well.

SPavel

@NautArch Copy paste error

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch I've also got to imagine that epic boons in the DMG are probably among the least play-tested rules they have seeing how niche they are.

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose that too. For someone with Twitter, may be helpful to ask them to see if it needs an errata.

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch on it already :)

NautArch

3:27 PM

@Rubiksmoose booya

Trying to figure out how to answer the Kraken question.

Gryphon

@doppelgreener Thank-you, question posted

NautArch

i'm very tempted to buy this

David Coffron

@Gryphon short answer is not quite but you're close. I'll give a more in depth analysis when I'm not at work if someone else doesn't cover it all

Gryphon

@DavidCoffron Thanks. Any specific tips on what's off?

David Coffron

@Gryphon Earth and Fire look fine (fire compares to Tiefling, Earth compares to Genasi). Giving flight speed with no limitation is risky. Aakokra for example need to be wearing light or no armor to even have flight (and don't get hover). And aakokra don't get anything else. Water has too many spells/pseudospells at lvl 1 but if you spread them out to lvl 3 and lvl 5, it would work better (like the Drow Magic for example)

Gryphon

3:43 PM

So I should tune down the Air flying and delay some of the spells for Water. I'm not going to edit the question, but I'll look at my copy of them and see where I can change things a little.

David Coffron

Yeah. Leave the question up as is bc other people might have a different approach

Gryphon

@DavidCoffron Additionally, the Air subrace cannot fly with armor, even light armor, so that helps counter the hover.

I think you missed that point.

David Coffron

@Gryphon the way I read it, I saw it needs no armor for hover but can fly anyway (period placement), but sorry if I misunderstood

No I see the period is for the ft. Derp

Gryphon

Now that I look at it, it is unclear. I'll see if I can rearrange the sentence to clarify.

GreySage

@Gryphon I edited it.

Gryphon

3:53 PM

@GreySage Thanks. I was wondering where the period went.

HellSaint

What's "CW"?

Context: reading the meta question about list questions.

@doppelgreener says "People have talked about whether we need a rule about making answers here CW" - no clue what this means :P

doppelgreener

@HellSaint community wiki

HellSaint

Oh.

That makes sense. Thanks :)

SPavel

Not to be confused with The CW, a terrible network

Future Historian

4:08 PM

And.......

I need help.

More specifically......I need a system that works appropriately for a Cold War Gone Hot setting.

Yuuki

Personal opinion: Community Wiki is an artifact of evolving SE design and should be removed.

Future Historian

So.....

Is there a system that can fit with that?

Yuuki

The feature contributes nothing and in fact encourages poor behavior.

@FutureHistorian Well, the one-size-fits-all answer is Fate. Otherwise, you might want to look into systems that try to model modern combat.

Future Historian

That is kind of the thing.

Yuuki

That is, if your campaign is combat-centric.

Future Historian

4:11 PM

I am trying to simulate the Cuban Missile Crisis if it had escalated into World War III.

HellSaint

@Yuuki what poor behaviour?

Future Historian

I just need both a POLITICAL and MILITARY (especially the latter) PoV.

Yuuki

@HellSaint There have been more than a few situations where someone tries to circumvent site rules (such as topicality or "no lists") by using Community Wiki under the justification of "well, I'm not getting rep for this so it's fine".

Future Historian

So...any recommendations?

RobertF

Hello all - was reading this explanation (rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/119208/…) of the various planes in the D&D multiverse.

I always thought the Prime Material Plane was basically like our universe, with stars and galaxies (plus magic & fantasy races of course). So Krynn, Oerth, Toril, etc. were planets in separate star systems. Is the geocentric setting from Spelljammer, with the crystal spheres & phlogiston, now canon?

HellSaint

4:14 PM

@FutureHistorian There is a Game of Thrones system. Obviously it is focused in GoT setting and characters, but you could adapt the political and combat system, at least.

Future Historian

Well, the thing is....I kind of need the realism of feeling like you are actually fighting WWIII in this timeline for the military part.

Yuuki

@RobertF Canon is weird when it comes to D&D settings.

Future Historian

As for the political....well, not sure how GoT can be converted for a Cold War environment.

Yuuki

That explanation is specifically for Forgotten Realms.

Krynn/Dragonlance or Oerth/Greyhawk does not necessarily follow the same cosmology.

HellSaint

@FutureHistorian I meant the mechanical system, not the setting itself.

Yuuki

4:17 PM

Actually, looking at that tweet linked, maybe I'm wrong.

Future Historian

Oh.

NautArch

@FutureHistorian What actions/interactions are you trying to do? That may help guide system choice.

HellSaint

One thing is: I remember some game developers in my city creating an RPG system exactly like what you are asking - it was an RPG focused in the Cold War. It's not complete yet (even if it was, it's in Portuguese :P), but it might indicate that there is not a system like that yet (or they would be losing time haha)

RobertF

@Yuuki Understood. I wonder if there's a way to throw out Spelljammer, which I never did like, but still have interplanetary/interstellar travel between worlds. I guess PCs can always use the Ethereal Plane (or am I thinking of the Astral Plane?) as a fantasy version of hyperspace that lets characters travel vast distances across the universe.

Yuuki

DM has final say so you can do whatever you want.

At the moment, the only thing tying Spelljammer into the settings as far as I know is Mearls's tweet.

RobertF

4:20 PM

Did he say 5e is reviving Spelljammer?

Future Historian

Here is the thing. I meant more military focus, with a few scenes dealing with some geopolitics during our timeline's Cuban Missile Crisis prior to the PoD.

Yuuki

@RobertF Sorta-maybe-yes-no-kinda-don't-worry-about-it.

NautArch

@FutureHistorian what do you mean by that? Are they active fighting participants (soldiers?) or are they the generals directing global/regional conflict?

Future Historian

A bit of both.

I will take either one, really.

Yuuki

I think you're going to have to pick though because a ground-level view and a bird's-eye view are really hard to gel.

Trying to fit both perspectives for players in one group is going to be rough.

You could maybe run two groups, one of which deals with higher-level decisions, but you might run into interpersonal problems when one group might feel slighted by the decisions of their commanders but they have real people to pin to the nebulous "top brass".

Rubiksmoose

4:26 PM

I've voted to close this as unclear because of confusion over what OP means when they say "permanent" rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/122862/…

RobertF

@FutureHistorian Is this RPG system close to what you want? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight:_2000

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose OP asked for "By permanent, I mean a spell that doesn't end on its own, having a duration of "until dispelled", or not specifying when the spell ends." that seems pretty clear.

I'm fairly certain this is a legit question. NOt a good question, but a legit one.

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch I know. They only specified after I asked.

Are you looking for spells that maintain their "duration"? Example: Nystal's Magic Aura can become "Until Dispelled" which is the same as "Permanent" as both can be dispelled... durations of instantaneous are different in that they cannot be dispelled as their magic is done in creation of something. So are you asking for spells with infinite duration, or are you asking for spells that create things of lasting substance like Awaken or Wall of Stone? Because the two are slightly different. — Slagmoth 10 mins ago

That is the confusion I am referring to.

Though, I think actually that going by OP's definition may clear that up as long as they know that they are getting both categories of things in the answer.

Future Historian

So, just adapt that to a modern warfare setting?

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose I think you've got it there. THey are clear in what they're asking for (spells that don't end on their own and last until dispelled or longer)

RobertF

4:35 PM

@FutureHistorian There's an updated version called Twilight 2013 available here: drivethrurpg.com/product_info.php?products_id=58794

Maximillian

Huh. Folks behind that went outta business in 2010. Well darn.

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch Ok so in that case instantaneous spells would definitely not qualify. Right?

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose instantaneous spells that cease to have an effecdt, yes.

But if an effect persists (like create water), then it's a permanent thing.

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch I would argue not actually. Instantaneous means the spell is over. It has a defined duration which means that, according to OP's definition, it is not permanent. For the same reason that a crater created by fireball is not a reason to consider it permanent.

SPavel

msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/…

Look guys, Rapture

NautArch

4:46 PM

@Rubiksmoose come join us

RobertF

5:19 PM

The premise behind Twilight 2013 is interesting, but I wonder if the reason the game didn't fly is because a lot of players want zombies, space aliens, or mutants in their post-apocalyptic RPG settings.

KorvinStarmast

@Rubiksmoose Usually means that an effect does not persist, but Awaken seems to be an exception to that

RobertF

One of the eeriest things about playing post-apocalyptic RPGs that take place in the near-future: PCs can visit their home towns - maybe even what's left of their home, including possessions that haven't been looted.

Player to GM: "In real life I have $1,000 in cash and a handgun in a safe buried under my basement. Is it still there in our game?"

SPavel

@RobertF GM: No, looks like it was stolen...around 2018 (takes notes)

Mike Q

"In real life I have a functional set of power armor in my basement. Is it there in game?"

goodguy5

no, you're doing it wrong.

"Yea, that's still there. Do you know the combination? if so, you can open it without a check"

Gryphon

5:34 PM

@goodguy5 No, first they have to describe the exact location of it and find a way to get through the still-functional security system on the house.

Delioth

Security system? You mean my literal dead body (presumably dead from the apocalypse)

RobertF

GM to players: "Ok, you guys are getting hungry, where are you going to find food?" Player to GM as he stows cooler filled soda, twinkies and chips under floorboards. "Don't worry, it's taken care of . . "

goodguy5

5:49 PM

XD

NautArch

@RobertF I think I played twilight about 30 years ago (is that right?!). Not sure if it was that or some other post-WW2 escape from europe RPG that I've not been able to verify.

RobertF

@NautArch That sounds right - Twilight 2000 1st edition was published in 1984, with later versions in 1990 & 1993.

NautArch

@RobertF it's funny, because i have zero recollection that it was called TWilight :)

goodguy5

I'm not sure I'll ever ask one of the thousands of views and dozens of updoots questions....

I just don't think that I wonder about those sorts of things.

The Oracle

1

Q: Can there be a bracketed locked after locked questions like with on hold and closed questions?

While a question that's on hold or closed is indicated in brackets in the general list of questions, a question that's locked isn't. (For example, at the time of this writing, this question.) Is there a reason not to display a bracketed locked after a locked question in the general list of quest...

discussion feature-request

Rubiksmoose

6:24 PM

@goodguy5 You never know. You could ask the next question about snakes being prone.

goodguy5

@Rubiksmoose can ghosts be knocked prone

can sphere's of light be knocked prone?

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 Can a ghost holding a sphere of light be knocked prone?

goodguy5

can a katamari be knocked prone?

Yuuki

Can a plum be knocked prune?

HellSaint

4

Q: Is this "Powertouched" Homebrew Race Balanced?

This is my first time homebrewing a race, and I'd like some feedback on balance. The question here is whether this race is overpowered, underpowered, or roughly balanced when compared the playable races in the PHB. Race: Powertouched [Fluff about elemental powers here. Blah Blah Blah...

dnd-5e homebrew balance races

How do you feel about this question? :P

Rubiksmoose

6:27 PM

Can a weeble ever be conisdered prone?

HellSaint

I have a strange feeling about this question. Each subrace is so different from each other that it might be a different question for each one. – Replicating my comment

goodguy5

@Rubiksmoose can a mister bozo toy be knocked prone?

Rubiksmoose

@HellSaint Next up on the CW: Powertouched by an Angel.

Yuuki

I think that on average people over-value flight, but it's still really strong.

GreySage

@Rubiksmoose Sounds like a Pro Wrestling move

Yuuki

6:28 PM

Also, the armor restriction on flight doesn't stop people who would tend to abuse such mechanics (i.e. spellcasters).

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose think that was on Cinemax, not CW :P

Rubiksmoose

@Yuuki Hmmm now how to create a flying tortle character...

GreySage

@Yuuki Of course, most spell casters have alternate means of getting flight

goodguy5

@Rubiksmoose you mean a koopatroopa?

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose winged boots.

Yuuki

6:28 PM

@GreySage Sure but they typically use spells, which means spell slots.

HellSaint

@GreySage usually they require concentration though

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 hah!

HellSaint

having a free flight is powerful

GreySage

@Rubiksmoose As long as they are weak to plumbers, you'll golden

Yuuki

At-will flight without needing concentration or attunement is strong.

David Coffron

6:29 PM

@Rubiksmoose Tortle dragon sorcerer?

NautArch

Tortle on a magic carpet.

Yuuki

The issue isn't melee fighters flying over walls and attacking rangers. The issue is spellcasters and ranged combatants flying up and out of range of melee enemies.

HellSaint

@Yuuki I think people over-value it is because they see those "Soloing a tarrasque as a level 1 party" videos.

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch oh dear. Maybe. I do get them confused a lot :P

HellSaint

actually, how easy it is to shenanigan-kill a tarrasque in 5e makes me sad

there you go, "strongest and scariest monster ever"... :(

Gryphon

6:34 PM

@HellSaint They just consecutively nerfed it through each edition, so now it is but a sad remnant of its former self.

HellSaint

@Gryphon Btw, on the Fire subrace you made, the Fire bolt mentions "on a hit" - but you don't specify what roll it is. (i.e., is it a spell ranged attack, just like the cantrip, or is it just a ranged attack?)

Firebolt is already a name of a cantrip, so it might be confuse.

Gryphon

@HellSaint Yeah, its meant to be the exact same as the cantrip. On second thought, I don't know why I didn't just say "you have the ability to cast the 'fire bolt' cantrip". I'll edit to change that now.

HellSaint

If you are going to give the cantrip, you have to specify the Ability Modifier it will use

Yuuki

I'd consider limiting the flight in some way so you can still have "cool, flight" while avoiding some possible pitfalls that come with allowing completely free flight.

HellSaint

which is what got me confused to start with - if it's a spell ranged attack, what modifier do you use? If it's just a ranged attack, it would be dex

Yuuki

6:42 PM

Like aasimar have the ability to fly but only for 1 minute per long rest.

Although I think that ability's meant for combat.

Since you also add +CHA radiant damage to all damage rolls.

David Coffron

I can't find my odnd books...

Rubiksmoose

6:58 PM

@DavidCoffron Did you try rolling perception again?