Root Access

> root@localhost:/home/tim# systemd-resolve --status
Global
DNSSEC NTA: 10.in-addr.arpa
16.172.in-addr.arpa
168.192.in-addr.arpa
17.172.in-addr.arpa
18.172.in-addr.arpa
19.172.in-addr.arpa
20.172.in-addr.arpa
21.172.in-addr.arpa
22.172.in-addr.arpa
23.172.in-addr.arpa
24.172.in-addr.arpa
25.172.in-addr.arpa
26.172.in-addr.arpa
27.172.in-addr.arpa
28.172.in-addr.arpa
29.172.in-addr.arpa
30.172.in-addr.arpa
31.172.in-addr.arpa
corp
d.f.ip6.arpa
home
internal
intranet
lan
local
private
test

Link 3 (eth1)

Journeyman Geek

There's a FORTH way to set up networks apparently

oh wait

does systemd have a network config utility?

djsmiley2k

10:51 AM

how do I add a sane DNS entry to systemd-resolve?

4

Q: How to configure 17.10 desktop's systemd-resolve dns via terminal?

I can do this via network setting's manual dns input field yet if I like to manage it via terminal (ssh), what may I do to accomplish this?

systemd-resolved

yey ty

systemd does everything

Journeyman Geek

that's a problem

Ok, so vanilla ubuntu dosen't use systemd resolve

armbian does

djsmiley2k

o_O

Journeyman Geek

So I happily go and install my router stack on it and.... dnsmasq won't start cause ... reasons

djsmiley2k

This is deffo a amd64 box lol

Journeyman Geek

running what though?

djsmiley2k

10:54 AM

ubuntu something messed up by the hosting.

Journeyman Geek

18.04 should use netplan out of the box

oh, they could have just built their own config

Michael Frank

@rahuldottech cough cough

djsmiley2k

> root@localhost:/home/tim# lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
Release: 18.04
Codename: bionic

err

@JourneymanGeek k, so it looks like somehow netplan got removed.

i've reinstalled it, everything 'should be fine' now?

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k with netplan? Nothing is ever fine ;p

djsmiley2k

Does 18.04 normally use systemd-resolve ?

Journeyman Geek

10:56 AM

I don't think mine did

djsmiley2k

weird.

Journeyman Geek

cause It didn't conflict with dnsmasq

rahuldottech

@MichaelFrank lol accepted

:)

djsmiley2k

hmmm either netplan didn't start automatically, or it's not working :D

how do I 'start' netplan D:

Journeyman Geek

should have a systemctl module

one sec

ah snap

I just rupped it out

oh right

1

A: 18.04 - does it force netplan or can I still use resolved.conf?

You first have to make a decision to use NetworkManager or netplan. If you connect wi-fi to various wireless networks, then NetworkManager is probably the better choice. Netplan is best used in servers, where the configuration doesn't change much. See https://netplan.io/examples. /etc/netplan ....

there's a command called netplan apply

did you do that?

I donno what the netplan systemd module is called

I SHOULD have had documentation on that on my old PC

Thats an interesting question though

how do you know what network config system you're using?

djsmiley2k

11:05 AM

you generally don't :D

until it doesn't work

and this is why I don't like ubuntu

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k lots of NIH

but once you beat it into sense, it works better

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Do a package audit?

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank you might have the packages for the other systems anyway

Michael Frank

they're not likely to be running though.

So a systemctl status should work, right?

rahuldottech

11:24 AM

> What if the entire web standardized on a single browser engine?

Yeah you're fkin stupid, mate

dev.to/kenbellows/…

discussion at news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20187572

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech actually that nearly happened

Twas called IE

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek do you still keep up with QC and JJ?

Journeyman Geek

JJ?

QC, sure

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Jeph, the author

Journeyman Geek

oh not the author

why?

rahuldottech

11:33 AM

@JourneymanGeek I have more than a year of backlog to catch up on, lol

Journeyman Geek

ahh

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek oh nothing I just saw a tweet of his about him and his wife and the last I heard (which was a couple year ago) he'd gotten divorced so I was just wondering if he got back with her or found a new partner lol

Journeyman Geek

aww

I have enough drama in real life to follow total strangers lol

rahuldottech

lol

Journeyman Geek

Other than Adam Savage, who makes things that bring me joy, and neil gaiman, holder of the HAT, I follow very few people I don't know

I literally only got (back) on twitter cause someone asked me to tweet something witty I said on chat so he could retweet it

rahuldottech

11:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek I've only read one Neil Gaiman book, but I loved it

What's HAT?

Journeyman Geek

Its literally a Hat

Once belonged to Terry Prachett.

But its a great and glorious thing of great power and majesty.

rahuldottech

Ahh just looked it up

Journeyman Geek

(Its a bit of a joke, he always wore the hat, and when he took the long walk, he left the hat to Gaiman)

rahuldottech

Journeyman Geek

Also, my second favourite fictional death.

Michael Frank

11:39 AM

That picture blew my mind.

rahuldottech

All these balls are of the same color. Brown.

Journeyman Geek

(The sandman/endless death's my favourite... but she's a sweetie

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek yeah, I get it

@JourneymanGeek no idea what you're talking about here lol

Journeyman Geek

sigh

@rahuldottech en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endless_(comics)

specifically en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(DC_Comics)

rahuldottech

cool thanks

Journeyman Geek

11:46 AM

Sometimes I forget folks arn't exposed to the same inflluences I am

Burgi

12:53 PM

i prefer the discworlds death to the one in good omens

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi that's my second favourite

Burgi

which one?

Journeyman Geek

Discworld's death was nice but a little confused

Gaiman's death was more worldly.

Feeds

1:37 PM

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bwDraco

3:37 PM

roar

bwDraco

4:08 PM

2 days ago, by allquixotic

Each manufactured item, digital and otherwise, has an expected lifespan. The expected lifespan is generally higher the pricier the item, but not always. For most consumer goods, this is true. A $0.20 plastic zip-lock bag lasts you a day or two if you use it a couple times. A $2000 desktop should last 4-5 years minimum, usually longer. Smartphones are engineered to basically work for 5 years; beyond that you're extendinng its lifespan longer than it was designed to go.

Heh.

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek sooooo not sure wtf system this is setup for networking with

seems to be 'none' right now

netplan try returns that it cannot bind to port 2983

Is there a coconical way that networking should b e in 18.04?

infact, I could manually configure the ip again, ssh in, take a backup of ~ and nuke it

Bob

4:42 PM

@djsmiley2k are you netplanning?

I guess the better question is why are you using netplan? ಠ_ಠ

/me is setting up smokeping

Canadian Luke

5:38 PM

5 years for a smart phone? I'll believe it when I see it

bwDraco

I tend to aim for 3 years.

bertieb

It'll get there eventually

Same way it's happened even with gaming PCs

Bob

6:03 PM

bwDraco

6:49 PM

lol

djsmiley2k

7:07 PM

@Bob I'm totally not sure what the server was originally setup with

:D

So about to nuke it, start again, see if I can figure out how it should be setup

I think instead of using their 'install', I'm going to install ubuntru myself

ahnhhh i was meant to be dhcp

but looks like the dhcp client got removed lol

Bob

my smokeping isn't smokepinging :(

@djsmiley2k 18.04 default is netplan

I still prefer ifupdown :\

I mean, the idea of netplan isn't bad, per se

the execution is ... ugh.

djsmiley2k

7:24 PM

lol yeah

hmmmm not booting :D

and we're in \o/

so @bob, can i 'check' it's using netplan, some how?

is there a netplan deamon?

Bob

@djsmiley2k erm. check if netplan is installed?

djsmiley2k

:D

Bob

idk, my experience with netplan invovled about an hour of swearing and little else :P

djsmiley2k

that it is :D

Bob

smokeping might have it beat though

y u no work

djsmiley2k

7:37 PM

hmmm any errors etc? I've never set it up but maybe i can rubber duck.

Bob

nah, I just get ... empty graphs

random github issue for a docker version of it suggests it takes an hour before it has "enough data to graph"

which makes testing a pain

djsmiley2k

oui

Bob

:\

djsmiley2k

/me ponders next steps

oh, copy ssh keys :D

djsmiley2k

8:47 PM

Right, hmmm

Should I just do all the traffic over ssh, or setup some kind of VPN :/

Bob

fixed it

running in container => fping installation failed to setcap => it doesn't automatically switch to suid like normal ping install does => the warning was hidden in the ~60-odd packages being installed

goddammit