Root Access

The problem I am having is there appears to be no way to control a machine through ssh let's say a raspberry pi when I don't no ahead of time which wifi it is going to connect to

Journeyman Geek

hm

add a second wifi adaptor (optional?) set up hostapd on that adaptor. Connect to your vaguely useless hotspot to configure? ;)

William

1:22 AM

does windows work with 2 wifi adapters because I fail to see how to use it

Journeyman Geek

linux will I think

windows might for letting you connect in

But really we can show you were the fish are

You need to cast the line yourself ;)

William

what do you mean connect in?

Journeyman Geek

so.. linux box has 2 wifi adaptors

William

yes

Journeyman Geek

One's set up with hostapd and is known.

One is not.

So you ssh into the known one, then use that to set up the pc as a repeater or simply to connect to wifi

So you always have a "known" IP address and SSID

William

1:26 AM

hmm if only bluetooth made this easier

Journeyman Geek

a cheap, tiny 2.4 ghz only dongle costs less than a fancy coffee

William

then that would work really well

I have one sitting next to me

Journeyman Geek

well, work it out

points @William at google ;)

I've given you what you need to start.

Go do it.

William

so one would be broadcasting a wifi network and the other would be for actually connecting to the internet?

Journeyman Geek

Then post a self answered SU question on how you did

@William kinda.

but you could also set up the system to bridge the two so your linux box acts like a repeater

William

1:28 AM

that is a really cool idea actually

how about mac windows a repater

Journeyman Geek

IDK

William

and linux always connect to that

Journeyman Geek

go research ;)

Michael Frank

5

Q: Missed flight but no visa to get a hotel

Let's say I am flying from country A to country C via country B. What happens if, due to airline error, I am delayed in country A and miss my connection to country C and the next flight is the next day? I must be allowed a hotel paid for by the airline but then I won't have a visa to exit in co...

missed-flights

This is basically the plot from The Terminal.

Journeyman Geek

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_(2018_film) 0_0

oh wait

THE

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminal makes more sense

Michael Frank

1:40 AM

Yea, wrong movie ha

I quite enjoyed The Terminal though... might need to watch it again soon.

William

1:58 AM

I rearranged the keys on my Japanese keyboard to be Dvorak

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank the real life insperation's story is even stranger

William

couldn't I have a liquid cooled computer in my book bag journeyman

Michael Frank

18 years is a long time...

Journeyman Geek

@William if you need to ask

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek The correct answer is "sure, and please post pics when you attempt it!"

Journeyman Geek

2:03 AM

True

actually If you had a USB PD powered NUC class machine, a custom heatsink mount, and a fake leg...

(NUC makes more sense than a laptop since you're going to be able to have a little more space to work with...)

and IIRC you can 3d print tops for intel NUCs

William

what is a fake leg

Journeyman Geek

Guardians of the Galaxy - "I'm Gonna Need a Few Things" Clip

►

(USB PD since you could power it off a ~~prosthetic leg~~ power bank)

You'd need to tap 12V for the AIW heat sink pump and fan too

William

2:21 AM

lol journeyman you quoting guardians of the galaxy is hilarious

I love the new movie

when Dr. Strange is like

"What master do you serve?"

Journeyman Geek

Full circle ;) Rocket Raccoon was inspired by James Gunn's dog

William

2:32 AM

What Master Do You Serve Scene - Avengers Infinity War (2018) Movie Clip HD [1080p 50 FPS HD]

►

allquixotic

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12246834

this hits me all the time

Michael Frank

@allquixotic We often get whatever right click context menu was last clicked on just sorta stuck on top of everything.

William

journeyman chewbacca was inspired by george lucas dog

Bob

3:08 AM

@allquixotic WOMM

Though that might be because I use both auto-hiding taskbars and always expand labels.

Bob

4:34 AM

@allquixotic servethehome.com/ovh-cloud-pushes-for-us-penetration

rahuldottech

7:28 AM

@Dog it arrived!!

Journeyman Geek

(that's from NFCtools. Two things, firstly check out the default info, and second, that there's this cool extended screenshot feature I didn't know about)

rahuldottech

I'm geeking out so bad

morning

Morning

7:35 AM

@rahuldottech why have you bought a TV aerial?

rahuldottech

@Burgi It's a 2.4Ghz Yagi Antenna

For wireless fun hackery

Burgi

it looks like a tv aerial

rahuldottech

Yagi–Uda antenna

A Yagi–Uda antenna, commonly known as a Yagi antenna, is a directional antenna consisting of multiple parallel elements in a line, usually half-wave dipoles made of metal rods. Yagi–Uda antennas consist of a single driven element connected to the transmitter or receiver with a transmission line, and additional "parasitic elements" which are not connected to the transmitter or receiver: a so-called reflector and one or more directors. It was invented in 1926 by Shintaro Uda of Tohoku Imperial University, Japan, and (with a lesser role played by his colleague) Hidetsugu Yagi.The reflector element...

That's because TV aerials use the same tech

Burgi

i take it you are going to do warwalking or similar?

rahuldottech

@Burgi I can do anything with it

Like

SO MUCH

Burgi

7:46 AM

all ethical and above board though right?

rahuldottech

Sure, war walking too, but it's highly directional, so not really the best for that

@Burgi duh. Long range wireless projects with Arduino and whatever

Anything that operates on 2.4Ghz

(most household products do)

Journeyman Geek

or stick it on the roof and wifi while communing with the leeches.

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek leeches?

Journeyman Geek

leeches.

They suck

rahuldottech

Wait. What do they have to do with WiFi? I'm not getting the joke.

Journeyman Geek

7:50 AM

More the joke about sitting far away and wifiing

rahuldottech

Connected to USB WiFi card: rahul.party/files/IMG_20180926_131813-4677.jpg Connected straight to laptop WiFi card: rahul.party/files/IMG_20180926_131510-7286.jpg

@Dog

@JourneymanGeek ah, but it's unfortunately not great for that, since it's not omnidirectional

Journeyman Geek

you just need to find the ideal spot to commune.

rahuldottech

I do live on a terrace though. I can probably get into anyone's WiFi network within the neighborhood. Not that I'm going to try or anything. I just could. Hypothetically. If I wanted to. Which I don't.

Totally never crossed my mind before, no sir, never.

I love how the old laptop has a panel at the bottom which gives me direct access to the laptop WiFi card

Journeyman Geek

SOunds like my work HP

@rahuldottech that would be fun where I live

I could try the next building

or the wireless@sg installation at the resident's committee

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Get one? I bought an imported one off of amazon, and it only cost me like 22 USD

Journeyman Geek

7:55 AM

naw

I had a uncompleted woktenna for ages

too many projects ;)

rahuldottech

OKAY DUDES

LISTEN

So... I connected my WiFi card to my set too box's satellite dish cable with my newly acquired connectors

AND IT STARTED CATCHING LIKE SIX NETWORKS EHICH I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE

Burgi

i think you need to lay off the caffeine. you've been far too excitable since you started living alone

rahuldottech

It's very possible that it's the long satellite cable dish doing the signal catching and now the actual dish tho

Still pretty cool

Thoughts, @Dog?

@Burgi yeah. Last exam on Friday. Not gonna touch them again

Till the next batch of exams, that is

That is, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April

Basically for a week each month

Burgi

that is a lot of exams

rahuldottech

8:20 AM

@Burgi Yeah

++practicals

++exam entrance exams

Bob

9:19 AM

@JourneymanGeek superuser.com/questions/1361480/…

djsmiley2k

9:36 AM

@MichaelFrank I gete that, only with Lync

but as now lync is gone... \o/

bertieb

11:15 AM

Afternoon o/

We're having a bit of an influx of spam at the mo'. On the spamfighting side, MetaSmoke is down at the moment and SmokeDetector instances are being shuffled around, so there isn't as good cross-network visibility, handling and auto-nuking going on. If you have the flags to spare, flag the obvious spam! The 'active' list is a good place to catch them, as are review queues :)

Journeyman Geek

11:43 AM

@Bob tbh that dude scares me a little

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I wonder how Kali always gets the ... ah ... beginners

Journeyman Geek

@Bob its a bit like croching tiger hidden dragon

They assume the tools give them power, when it is the user who gives the tools power.

4

allquixotic

12:09 PM

@bertieb I was half expecting Geek to reply with "its being addressed" or "its been addressed"

bertieb

@allquixotic Hehe :-P

It is being addressed over in CHQ, but MetaSmoke is still down :-\

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic actually - I asked him to mention it here

also I'm not really involved in SD, and this is one of the critiques I have of it.

bertieb

dev-on-production

Journeyman Geek

._.

Well more that its so efficient, people get out of practice doing it the old fashioned way ;)

bertieb

(from their own room topic :D)

Journeyman Geek

12:16 PM

(cue "RUNNING WATER MAKES PEOPLE WEAK!")

bertieb

Heh, aye

I know what you mean

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic sometimes I think people assume I work here ;)

or have some secret knowledge of what's happening....

;)

bertieb

The curse of being too good at what you do, everyone expects you to do and know everything

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb happens at work too

bertieb

@JourneymanGeek I can believe it!

Journeyman Geek

12:18 PM

;p

@bertieb well, I just use search on outlook. A lot.

likewise with whatsapp

(here its meta? ;p)

+++ a good memory

bertieb

I have a couple of friends who despair at the incompetence of some folks they work with... I sometimes wonder 'Are they actually bad at job squintingfry.jpg or just not wanting to get a reputation as being good'

Ah, the curse of a good memory

Journeyman Geek

Oh its more here

like that conversation with Draco about SE emails probably pulled in a half dozen things ;p

bertieb

Cache refresh, you say

Journeyman Geek

12:43 PM

Well, some of it I donno if its public - but the main thing being SE using a different domain for automails

and people getting confused by it

djsmiley2k

12:53 PM

Oh, part of that survey that I shouldn't of got, thing?

Journeyman Geek

and nearly everything else ;)

djsmiley2k

1:21 PM

:D

djsmiley2k

1:49 PM

I think I just wrote this for a spam question D:

0

A: Start VirtualBox VM with GUI on Windows 10 system boot after auto-login

After a little bit of googling I found the answer to this - it's a combination of two other things which combined give you the outcome you want. VM's can be started automatically via calling VBoxManage.exe from the correct folder. On my system this is C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox So if yo...

rahuldottech

2:06 PM

I found a way to connect. The SSH server was not enabled. — SuperUserJL 3 hours ago

ROFL @Bob @JourneymanGeek

XKCD

2:17 PM

I thought of another bad opinion! I couldn't find anyone who expressed it specifically, but still, the fact that I can so easily imagine it is infuriating! I'm gonna tell everyone about it!

Journeyman Geek

GOOMHR!

rahuldottech

3:13 PM

@Bob Finally got around to installing ssh on the PC with the boot issues

Bob

Hm?

rahuldottech

Had to do so through cygwin though, since win7 doesn't have a native server

Bob

Uh. Yes it does.

We use it at work.

rahuldottech

@Bob windows 7 has a native ssh server??

Ofc not. You need open ssh.

Bob

@rahuldottech github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH/wiki/Install-Win32-OpenSSH

It's the same one that runs on 10.

It's created by Microsoft.

It runs on Win32 proper, not a POSIX layer.

It's native.

rahuldottech

3:17 PM

@Bob Nowhere in my google searches did I learn that it works on versions other than windows 10. That's good to know, thanks.

Bob

@rahuldottech We use it at work on the sole remaining 7 box :P

rahuldottech

@Bob I like 7

Bob

Bleh. I can't wait for that box to be replaced.

rahuldottech

@Bob haha, why?

Bob

@rahuldottech It's slow, unreliable and generally a pain to use.

We keep it around for some legacy software and to have an IE11/Win7 test machine.

rahuldottech

3:19 PM

@Bob Just that box in particular, or 7 in general?

Bob

@rahuldottech A little from column A, a little from column B.

The slowness is largely that box.

The unreliability is partially because of 7.

The pain to use is a combination of the slowness and the lack of some useful QoL improvements in 8/10.

rahuldottech

@Bob The reason I'm on 7 is because this PC is a 2006-era laptop, and win10 very probably won't work on it

Bob

@rahuldottech Yea, sometimes it does work out that way.

Doesn't mean I don't get annoyed by missing functionality.

Got pretty annoyed at a 2008R2 server today because of the old conhost.

No line copying/reflow, no easy way to resize horizontally...

Canadian Luke

4:45 PM

Doesn't Microsoft give free remote access for "web developers" to every version of IE on every supported version of Windows still?

Nordlys Jeger

@Bob doesn't come win 10 preinstalled with IE11?

Bob

@NordlysJeger It does, but there's subtle differences.

When a good chunk (but thankfully shrinking) of your customers are on a platform, you kinda need to test that platform.

Nordlys Jeger

true

Bob

@CanadianLuke Not remote last I checked; downloading a local VM every 90 days is a huge pain on Australian internet; and we need to test against local servers so remote doesn't really work anyway.

We do use BrowserStack but sometimes you just need that full OS.

Canadian Luke

I remember a few years ago, Microsoft would release Remote Desktop App packages for virtually every version of IE. It would connect, for free, to one of their data centers in the USA, and let you browse the web virtually unrestricted

allquixotic

5:20 PM

@CanadianLuke heh. "open proxies" like that are quite rare but Google also has that Data Saver tool for Chrome, and Opera has their own data saver proxy thing

Canadian Luke

Mmkay

allquixotic

dunno how they keep those services afloat with the potential for abuse

the potential is over 9000

rahuldottech

Nordlys Jeger

nom nom Coca cola

rahuldottech

Okay so I connected the yagi antenna to an old lamp which has a sturdy base and frame

And now I can keep it pointed at targets

@NordlysJeger you chew coke?

Nordlys Jeger

5:24 PM

of course, you don't? add a bit of gelatine and you're good to go

;)

rahuldottech

github.com/Alpha-Lead/ChangeWirelessMode

Nordlys Jeger

is that your's?

rahuldottech

@NordlysJeger Nah, my stuff is at rahul.red

rahuldottech

5:47 PM

Uh, ignore this link, just abusing chat: null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/…

Bob

flagged for chat abuse

flagged for trying to use kali

(@JourneymanGeek :P)

Canadian Luke

@rahuldottech Ha, that's blocked on my work network -.-

Nordlys Jeger

I hope this article is useful for newbies who are getting their heads messed up with VMs instead of just booting up Kali and getting their heads messed up by using Kali. (emphasis mine)

rahuldottech

@NordlysJeger It has nothing to do with VMs, but ok

Nordlys Jeger

I read the article, but saw this at the end

rahuldottech

5:55 PM

@Bob Well, I can't break into WiFi networks on Win, and I can't be bothered to install all necessary packages on Ubuntu

Nordlys Jeger

it's copied straight from the text

Bob

...ok that one actually is flaggable for illegal activity

Nordlys Jeger

:)

rahuldottech

@Bob my own network, of course :P

@NordlysJeger ohh

rahuldottech

7:07 PM

I normally get like 3 networks within range

I attached the antenna and

BAM! 32!

bwDraco

Turning Stolas into a desktop replacement.

Why waste energy running Astaroth for lighter tasks that don't need discrete graphics, 8 cores, or 32 GB of memory? The Demon needs 70+ watts at idle.

My biggest complaint is that if Dell S2417DG is set to HDMI mode, and Astaroth is accidentally powered on (e.g. an errant keyboard press), the system will not be able to enumerate the display, causing it to switch to the cheap Acer monitor on the left. I'd have to put it to sleep and wake it up again after switching to the DP input before it'll work.

allquixotic

7:41 PM

@bwDraco heh, I only use Unnamed Random Cobbled Together High-end Desktop for games like Star Citizen, UE4 games like ARK and the like... most everything else runs smoothly on the 1070 Max-Q on Unnamed Upgraded Razer Blade 15 (2018) with 32 GB of RAM and a 2 TB 870 EVO

bwDraco

lol

bwDraco

8:11 PM

FWIW... if the DP input is inactive, is it normal for the system to not be able to enumerate the display? I'm used to seeing systems being able to get EDID or other display data even if the display is powered off. (Relevant: This is a NVIDIA G-SYNC display.)