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12:05 AM
Speaking of which, that reminds me. I forgot the thing.
 
 
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2:32 AM
!!tumbleweed
 
Ave
3:05 AM
hi
 
3:34 AM
weekends are quiet
 
4:03 AM
urgh
it's 5am
i've woken up with the worst acid ever
some how i was sleeping on my front
now drinking some milk to try and stop the burning
 
GERD?
 
Aye
I've got things to suppress the acid production
but... sleeping on my front definately doesn't help
at least, the milk is actuallly helping
 
14 hours ago, by djsmiley2k
due to that and me having pyloric stenosis, i ended up basically bringing up stomach acid a lot while sleeping...
...that's news.
 
lol yeah, typical
i've not had any reflux in months
 
It's very rare for this to happen in an adult.
 
4:08 AM
talk about it on here, next day, boom.
oh i've had it since i was a baby
 
Wait. You never got this surgically corrected?
 
oh yah
had the op as a baby
 
If so, why would this persist?
You said you "have" it, not "had" it, so I'm assuming the condition persists or is recurring.
 
the GERD, yeah
I'm on life long medication for acid production
 
Ah, okay.
That sucks.
 
4:12 AM
yeah tho 99% of the time i don't have to do anything, other than take my pill
Right
 
Pretty common comorbidity.
 
my throat is almost feeling normal now, i';m going back to bed
(it's 5am)
night!
 
Good night.
 
 
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5:49 AM
*sigh*
Services on http://www.fierydragonlord.com/ are restored after reconfiguring the firewall. Had to put together a rudimentary setup using firewalld after a migration using the susefirewall2-to-firewalld script (https://github.com/openSUSE/susefirewall2-to-firewalld). Again, if anything is broken, please let me know.
@openSUSE, you need to mention in the openSUSE Leap 15.0 release notes that SuSEfirewall2 is deprecated and has been replaced with firewalld. I had to learn a new iptables frontend and yet there's nothing in the release notes mentioning this change.
 
6:04 AM
(see Matrix chat log at roota.cc for details)
 
6:19 AM
ooh
firewalld is nice
 
Ave
7:10 AM
firewalld is nice
 
7:48 AM
firewalld is nice
 
8:04 AM
Fire Walden, he's nice
 
8:27 AM
iptables!
 
@djsmiley2k it wonderful other than being a little too GDPR compliant
 
Hahah
 
 
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10:21 AM
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Not sure if 2.1 or valid Perl
2
(it actually looks like it could be a valid submission to a PPCG Q)
 
maybe both
or a new esoteric language
\o/
I've grokked using message templates in outlook
 
Summon Dennis, he'd soon explain it :P
Hurrah
 
Now I just need to convert our labyrinthine set of signatures and escalations into something I can use
(we use signatures as templates for some odd reason)
but this lets me store the email addresses too
 
@bertieb 2.1
 
10:35 AM
Get him on PPCG!
 
i WAS THINKING occ
 
 
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12:38 PM
2.1 is backj
 
Also why is it always 2.1 :p
Is 2.2 sneakier or better behaved?
 
2.0 is older
she likes webdings and wingdings
 
Ah.
We index from 0
 
 
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2:50 PM
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Q: Why does Preview need to access my Keychain just to execute hotkeys?

uhohI've asked the related question in security SE: Why does not updating a MacOS keychain password cause applications to become troublesome? and the answer there explains that keychain is used by various applications to store "sensitive data such as credentials, certificates and the like... password...

I wonder if I should be asking this here instead of in Apple SE. Any thoughts?
 
3:23 PM
a heads up. I migrated an exact duplicate. You might want to merge it superuser.com/questions/1326184/…
It;s also cross posted on Unix
@JourneymanGeek
 
@uhoh It's a apple only thing... I'd say not, but...
 
3:44 PM
@uhoh I don't think it's a constructive question anyway
what are you going to do with that information even if someone told you precisely why? it's not like you can go edit the source code of the proprietary Apple Preview program and fix it so it doesn't require keychain access
there's no practical purpose to the question -- you can either take it (use the software and accept any permissions it requires) or leave it (use different software); there is literally nothing else you can do unless you're an Apple software developer who works on Preview, which is a demographic probably fewer than 1 in 1 billion people on the planet
 
@djsmiley2k okay thanks.
 
4:01 PM
@allquixotic and if so, you could directly check the source code
@allquixotic Hmmm I wonder, 8 people total?
 
4:12 PM
@djsmiley2k it's probably somewhere between 1 and 20 people who actually have the stature within Apple Inc. to make approved changes to the Preview app
they have many more developers than that but they don't work on Preview at all, and if they did, they'd get a lot of questions
 
@allquixotic instead of telling me that I should not want to know the answer to my question, you could consider asking me why I do.
 
@uhoh lol nah
If i had to ask why everyone who asked a question which answer didn't really make any sense, I'd be stuck asking questions forever.
Apparently this makes me 'not nice'. I say it shows I realise the utility of 1 billion heart beats, and making sure to use them in the best fashion.
 
4:32 PM
@uhoh why do you want to know the answer to that question?
 
5:02 PM
@djsmiley2k Only one billion? That doesn't seem like very much.
 
5:14 PM
Sometimes knowing why something is the way it is is edifying in itself, even if you can't practically do anything with it (not that it necessarily makes for a good SE QA, but that's another discussion QA)
A slightly fatuous statement I'll admit, but there's satisfaction to be had in learning things for the sake of learning them
 
5:51 PM
> A billion beats. Studies have concluded that all mammals get about a billion heartbeats per lifetime. They can use them at a rate of a thousand per minute, like the shrew, or space them out into slow, ponderous beats, over many years, as is the case for the Grey whale.28 Jun 2017
@bertieb Oh sure
I don't disagree with that.
But I'm not sure here is the right place for it, especially as we could just fill SU entirely with questions that almost can never be answered.
(without doing questionable/illegal things).
 
 
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7:43 PM
wtf are "musk" flavored life savers? O_O they're in an Australian ration
 
@bertieb , I always appreciate "joining forces" with you within the Suggested Edit review queue! That being said, I was hoping you could help clarify our thought process on this one: superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/759706
Do we know that the proposed registry entry is correct?
 
@Run5k I've rejected that edit :)
 
Thank you, @DavidPostill. I know that volunteer editors have the best of intentions, but that particular scenario seemed to be rather problematic. The original answer was accepted by the OP, had six up-votes, and the question itself has over 9300 views. Without any way to personally confirm that the proposed edit is actually correct, is seems unlikely that it would have successfully passed scrutiny from all of those other people with misleading information.
 
@Run5k Exactly why I rejected it :)
At best it should have been a comment on the answer.
 
Precisely. Thanks again!
 
7:52 PM
I've seen "updating answer to reflect comments" rejected as 'attempt to reply'
So, I'm not sure how to best to approach this
I've also seen folks submit correction as answers, because they cannot comment
 
@bertieb Any edit that changes the code in an answer should be reject unless you are absolutely sure the correction is necessary.
It's best to let the OP correct their own answer if they agree with the comment.
 
That's a high bar to clear
Especially for old answers
 
@bertieb Indeed.
 
Rob, your proactive nature within the review queues is genuinely awesome, and I am very gratefully for your efforts! There will always be a few scenarios that are rather subjective calls. This one simply seemed to be a bit questionable without proof or confirmation.
 
If in doubt reject
 
7:57 PM
I tend to skip if in doubt
I appreciate the nice words @Run5k, I will consider changing my approach
However, I am a bit concerned we are creating a 'no win situation' for a user that wants to improve a post but lacks the rep to make it so
And the last thing I want to do is discourage those who have a bona fide desire to positively contribute to the site
If it means skipping more items, so be it
I'm not doing it for the badges
 
That sentiment is totally understandable. Of course, all of us have been enthusiastic contributors who had "low rep" at one point in time. As long as we put a positive spin on the subsequent comments and recommendations, I think that the new members will typically understand.
 
Aye, I agree, and that's laudable
But (AIUI) a comment isn't a visible action (unlike an edit suggest, or a first post / late answer)
So unless the user is still active and checks notifications and acts on them, a comment alone could easily languish
I dunno, not an easily solvable problem
New users are a kinda 'critical phase of development'; treating them positively and helping to learn the site engenders more contributions
Which is a good thing for the site, so it's a selfish thing to be nice :P
 
Agreed on all counts. Cultivating new members in a positive manner can go a long way towards creating another long-term contributor towards the community. We have had similar discussions in recent weeks: the "tough love" method may actually work, but it may scare away potential contributors, too.
 
 
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10:35 PM
I'm having a bit of a mental meltdown :/
 
@djsmiley2k Why?
 
10:54 PM
Wish I knew, hope this storm that's coming is a big one and clears my head
 
11:50 PM
It's not 9pm yet and I'm already at the second party/bar of the day
 

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