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6:00 PM
@jokerdino Can you ask please. They have me on ignore for reasons.
 
@FMLCat Heyo, we don't need two bots in the room. Thank you~
@DavidPostill Hope the list is not too congested.
 
$$info
 
@jokerdino IIRC there are only a few people on the list ...
 
the lucky few?
 
@jokerdino No, one was broken and nobody told me when it got fixed
 
6:07 PM
@FMLCat yeah, fair.
 
The desktop image is apparently part of a read only file system.
 
And apparently since I copied allquixotic's bot configuration, I'm not in the admin list for turning it off remotely -_-
For the record though, since it's got the same config, room owners and admins can turn it off using the die command, ironically I can't
 
##die
 
(Except I turned it off at the master switch just now)
 
oh, I am not RO/admin
 
6:09 PM
I meant mods/admins. You would be able to ##die if I hadn't already killed it
 
are you running it from your home?
 
No, on my "cloud server"
 
gone are the days when people could have a home server.
 
I'd easily/happily have a home server if I had a permanant home
Apparently 300/50 unlimited broadband is available just round the corner from me
 
what's 300/50?
 
6:13 PM
300Mbps download 50Mbps upload
 
O_O
 
user226528
Is it very difficult to stop a Linux service?
 
just pull the plug
 
user226528
Alright.
 
user226528
I guess that does count as stopping a service
 
user226528
6:15 PM
But isn't there a stop command?
 
My street's limited to 300/20 with pathetic traffic shaping or 80/20 unlimited
@FleetCommand service stop <name of service>
 
user226528
Like net stop?
 
yes, there are.
depends on what kind of a service
 
Or init.d if you're still using that stuff
 
@jokerdino I got a home server... That runs my cloud...
 
6:15 PM
I have a vape mod that runs MY cloud!
 
@CanadianLuke ._.
 
I got 4TB of storage, accessible anywhere <sunglasses emoji>
 
user226528
Well, clearly this is no ordinary Linux box. Cheeky bastard responds "bad command or file name".
 
user226528
!!wiki Bad command or file name
 
"Bad command or file name" is a common error message in MS-DOS and some other operating systems. It is occasionally used as an example of a computer message that is perfectly accurate yet confusing to the average user. COMMAND.COM produced the message "Bad command or file name" when the first word of a command could not be interpreted. For MS-DOS, the first word of a command was the name of an internal command, executable file or batch file, so the error message provided an accurate description of the problem but easily confused novices. Though the source of the error was often a mistyped command...
 
6:18 PM
That sounds more like a Linux box running Windows
 
user226528
No version of Windows says "bad command or file name".
 
user226528
This message was disposed of a long time ago.
 
Funny, the screenshot from the wikipedia article is exactly one of Windows
 
user226528
@FMLCat Can you read? It says "Screenshot of the error in MS-DOS".
 
@FleetCommand It's clearly a CMD prompt running on Windows
MS-DOS neither uses that font, or has a window border
 
6:21 PM
checks out
 
user226528
CMD does not return "bad command or file name".
 
user226528
It's a DOS box.
 
user226528
!!wiki DOSBox
 
DOSBox is an emulator program which emulates an IBM PC compatible computer running a DOS operating system. Many IBM PC compatible graphics and sound cards are also emulated. This means that original DOS programs (including PC games) are provided with an environment in which they can run correctly, even though the modern computers have dropped support for that old environment. DOSBox is free software written primarily in C++ and distributed under the GNU General Public License. DOSBox has been downloaded over 34 million times since its release on SourceForge in 2002. DOSBox can run old DOS software...
 
translate: checks out
 
user226528
6:22 PM
CMD message is:
> "foo" is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file
 
Neither does any flavour of Linux I currently have access too.
 
user226528
Finally, you got where I got ten minutes ago: "clearly this is no ordinary Linux box".
 
user226528
In fact, I am pretty sure this is a cheeky developer's idea of being funny.
 
4 mins ago, by FML Cat
That sounds more like a Linux box running Windows
 
running Voodoo
 
6:23 PM
And you still haven't gotten that far yet
 
aight, that's enough
 
Anyway, as I stated earlier, different *nix distributions use different commands for service control.... service is one of them, init.d is another, and there's plenty more
 
user226528
Wow, wonders never end: pwsh actually worked.
 
Then there's upstart, systemd, etc.
 
user226528
Well, PowerShell is my territory. This strange shell was terra incognita.
 
6:28 PM
What does powershell have to do with service management on linux?
 
user226528
It let's me send any command I want without returning "bad command or file name"! 😉 That's a start.
 
user226528
There is something called BFS here. I wonder what it stands for.
 
user226528
Whoa. That was kinky. BFS §Computing
 
6:43 PM
@FleetCommand that sounds horrifibg
 
user226528
Well, I think I figured out what's going on. I am accessing "hyperspace", i.e. a hypervisor's root partition. (Not to be confused with a disk partition.)
 
user226528
The is nothing to do in hyperspace, except to manage subspaces or drop into them.
 
7:34 PM
yawwwwn
 
I was able to finally adjust permissions on the file I was targeting. It did not help me. Oh well.
Time to try something else.
 
what are you trying to do
 
I was trying to lock a file responsible for the wallpaper to read only to avoid it being set without my permissions.
I was unable to do that on macOS at first, and so booted into recovery and removed system integrity protection. It didn't work. So I went into single user mode and tried there. That didn't work either. But I eventually was able to achieve what I wanted in single user mode with another command (chflags nouchg) prior to chmod 400 <filename>.
 
@Bob Counties in the US basically aggregate small towns, cities and neighborhoods that are too small to have incorporated themselves as a municipality and have their own local tax system and infrastructure. They're the US's response to suburban sprawl. Counties are the lowest level of government that can tax you, build roads, set laws (called ordnances), etc. unless you live in an "incorporated" city.
Some people don't live in a county at all because they're within the "city limits" of a major city, so their infrastructure and local taxes come from the city. Then we also get taxed at the state and federal levels and get relevant parts of our infrastructure from them
 
OSX got nothing like group policy?
 
7:43 PM
@djsmiley2k It wouldn't help in this case. I'm the only user.
 
you want to stop yourself changing it?
 
Not exactly.
I sometimes leave my laptop unattended with friends for short periods of time.
 
ah ok
 
It's a chronic problem that my wallpaper is changed.
 
well, if this was IPS my advice would be 'get new friends'
 
7:44 PM
I do have a password, but I'd rather not have to constantly log in when being away less than a minute.
(I could always close my laptop).
 
ok
fair enough, so setting the wallpaper, and letting only root change it, would be good?
 
I just wanted a password prompt when making a wallpaper change.
But apparently this is something nobody thought of.
 
> chown root:wheel /Library/Desktop\ Pictures/Your_Wallpaper.jpg
ln -fs /Library/Desktop\ Pictures/YourWallPaper.jpg /System/Library/CoreServices/DefaultDesktop.jpg
 
This looks like a change of permissions for the default wallpaper location.
Hold on.
I see. You're hard linking the system wallpaper to that of my choice.
And also giving it root ownership
Nice.
Well, the current default desktop image isn't the one actually set. So I'm curious about which one it's using at this time.
 
8:28 PM
@djsmiley2k /System/Library/CoreServices/DefaultDesktop points to the default desktop picture (Which isn't being shown at this time, and is only the stock one at first installation). Might you know what file points to the current wallpaper? If I can chown that I should be able to stop modification to it.
 
8:49 PM
↑ had an edit suggested for malware on the link which I have removed for the time being
Chromium is flagging it when I go there, but I'm not sure if it's "malware somewhere on the entire domain" or "malware at that specific URL"
If someone else can check they see what I see so that I'm not unilaterally removing resources, with big big here be dragons / malware warning
 
9:04 PM
@bertieb virustotal.com/#/url/… 2 positives
@bertieb It's that specific URL. Domain root seems clean
 
@DavidPostill Thanks for checking 👍
Didn't realise you could virustotal a URL and not just a file!
Any repercussions for user who linked it in first place?
 
@bertieb Yep. It's quite useful ;)
 
(out of curiosity, suppose that might be an internal decision)
 
@bertieb No. Could be a false positive with only 2 matches.
 
Ah, fair enough
 
9:11 PM
so... whats the plan if facebook collapses?
 
Blockchainbook
Backed by BookCoin (BKC) currency
(there's always Diaspora :P)
In a few years, they could be as big as Google+!
grin
 
lol
 
@Burgi Rejoice?
 
they interviewed the academic who did the initial data capture on the radio this morning, it sounds like facebook and the analytics company have both tried to throw this guy under the bus but failed and thrown themselves under it instead
@MichaelFrank thats certainly my plan
 
9:36 PM
Anyways. Tried to summarize my attempts in a submission on apple.stackexchange. Hopefully someone there can sort it out. Thanks for the assistance here though!
 
10:00 PM
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The Brain Fuck Scheduler (BFS) is a process scheduler designed for the Linux kernel in August 2009 as an alternative to the Completely Fair Scheduler and the O(1) scheduler. BFS was created by veteran kernel programmer Con Kolivas. The objective of BFS, compared to other schedulers, is to provide a scheduler with a simpler algorithm, that does not require adjustment of heuristics or tuning parameters to tailor performance to a specific type of computation workload. Kolivas asserted that these tunable parameters were difficult for the average user to understand, especially in terms of interactions...
> BFS has been retired in favour of MuQSS, a rewritten implementation of the same concept.[2]
Yet the latter doesn't have a wikipedia article :-(
Hah even the reporters he's surrounded with are blonde hotties
 
That's the good thing about Wikipedia I suppose, just write one yourself! Slap a stub on it, someone will work on it.
 
I don't know how to create wikipedia articles
 
I'm sure there's an edit button on there somewhere...
 
I can't just write "Muqss is the successor to brain fuck scheduler", and I literally know nothing else about it
 
10:09 PM
But imagine what you could learn about it while putting together a respectably small wiki page.
 
In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority derives from the metacognitive inability of low-ability persons to recognize their own ineptitude; without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence. Conversely, highly competent individuals may erroneously assume that tasks easy for them to perform are also easy for other...
 
user226528
10:40 PM
@FMLCat Someone has already request the article and a draft has been set up too. See: Draft:MuQSS
 
user226528
The draft is, of course, rejected, because it amounts to almost as much as you said.
 
I attempted to follow the instructions in this answer: superuser.com/a/1137376/475249
now my registry looks like this:
and I restarted Explorer, but there is not an item in the context menu as I expected.
 
user226528
> Give this key the name “command” in lowercase.
 
Which instructions from what answer?
 
@FleetCommand it is selected in the image
 
user226528
10:48 PM
Your Registry key has an uppercase C.
 
@MichaelFrank the ones that I linked to
 
user226528
You should change "Command" into "command".
 
well this is a pain
I need to rename it twice
 
user226528
Also "Edit with Notepad++" for a folder? I don't think it works anyway.
 
well the question asks for a solution for files, so I expected the solution to work for that
 
10:53 PM
Man the amount of complete bullshit information you find on Quora is frustrating as hell
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@FleetCommand That's how the HTG page says to do it as well.
 
I think I saw the option show up once, but I can't see it anymore
 
user226528
@MichaelFrank If you look at the micsthepick screenshot more carefully, you'll see the mistake.
 
All I see is something\Background\shell\Open with...
Wheres the instructions show HKCR\Directory\Background\shell\Open with...
Besides the spelling mistake in command, I can't see any other errors.
 
@FleetCommand if you are aware of some other issue than please make me aware of it.
 
user226528
11:13 PM
Your path is not enclosed in double quotation marks and besides, you are calling something in your user profile from an HKLM key.
 
@FleetCommand You're right on the first part, I missed that. However, I'm not sure how you know he's modifying HKLM...
 
11:31 PM
I was in CLASSES ROOT
 
Bob
@FMLCat Soooo, all of it? :P
 
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