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Is there a thing to queue edits and automatically apply them slowly (assuming there hasn't been a preempting edit)? — Ben N on chat Let's write a script! StackApps (placeholder): https://stackapps.com/questions/7617/trickleedit-queuing-edits-to-prevent-flooding-placeholder Repo: https://g...

rahuldottech

3:59 AM

GUYS

Bob

?

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech ???

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Sorry, I thought I found a bug

Journeyman Geek

Ah

rahuldottech

Then turns out it was...

wait

Anyone else see this? workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/99676/…

rahuldottech

4:25 AM

@JourneymanGeek

^

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech what about it?

also, looks like ava didn't load. Happens

rahuldottech

4:44 AM

@JourneymanGeek Doesn't loading on reload either

And I've been seeing this a lot the past couple hours

(lot=4 times)

> German companies are sometimes identified by the initials, AG, which means "Aktiengesellschaft" ("stock company"), or GmbH, "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung, ("company with limited liability").

TILLLLLLLLLLLLL

Ben N

@Bob This happens when the CSRF token is missing (source)

Does the extension need to more thoroughly mimic the user opening the edit window?

Michael Frank

Huh... I was just wündering what GmbH meant today while downloading Teamviewer

Ben N

But it might be easier and more reliable in the long run to switch to the API

@Bob Will do, in the morning :)

Bob

5:02 AM

@BenN I'm kinda torn, because I can currently capture the FormData as-is and replay it. Very simple.

Using the API would require an OAuth flow

@BenN That's what I thought but AFAICT the fkey seems correct. Except my user ends up logged out.

<== confused

Ben N

Does the extension need the cookies permission?

That's a thing for Chrome extensions IIRC

Bob

@BenN I'm currently testing within devtools' network monitor.

Cookies are definitely being sent.

Ben N

Ah, are there any other differences?

Bob

I'm effectively replaying the same request (fkey doesn't change, doesn't seem to need to).

The replay works if done immediately after.

@BenN Also, on fkeys, Cavil scapes it off the chat page and uses it.

AFAIK Cavil uses the same key for his entire lifetime.

!!info

Ben N

Indeed, the PS chatbot does the same

ChatBot John Cavil

5:06 AM

@Bob I awoke on Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:43:07 GMT (that's about 6 days ago), got invoked 70 times, learned 1 commands

Bob

Maybe the chat key lasts longer

Ben N

Approximately how long after getting the form data does it fail? I'm trying to see if I can repro this

Bob

@BenN ...rough guess, 1-2h. but I can't repro now.

It was kinda random.

Ben N

Hm. I'd guess that the fkey changed, but I need to zzz soon

Bob

@BenN Should also note, I was logged out after. Not sure if as a consequence of the teapotting.

Ben N

5:18 AM

That is weird. Might your IP have changed in between?

(relevant?)

Bob

@BenN nope, I'm proxying through a server with a fixed IP

Ben N

Probably the fkey then; I'll see if mine is different in the morning

Bob

ah, there was text in the response:

>
Suspicious request

Sorry, your request could not be completed because it looked suspicious. If you meant to perform an action on Meta Super User, please return to the previous page and try again.

Ben N

Yup, CSRF protection

Bob

@BenN yea, probably

Ben N

5:22 AM

I just realized that I'll need to implement CSRF protection myself for the (unrelated) web app I'm starting

That seems like the kind of thing web frameworks could handle automagically

Bob

@BenN Many of them do :P

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech Aktiengesellschaft sounds painful, and something you need a doctor for.

Journeyman Geek

5:48 AM

hm

... the BFR seems really cool

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob the proposed new spacex rocket

Michael Frank

Big F____ing Rocket?

Bob

oh

Journeyman Geek

Totally reusable, 2 stage rocket bigger than the saturn, and allegedly cheaper than anything else for the payload

also. Looks... cool

Bob

6:00 AM

@JourneymanGeek pfft, tell me when they have a rocket bigger than ~~the~~ saturn :D

Journeyman Geek

@Bob biggest rocket humanity's built. Sadly... we never followed it up since.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek the joke is ~~the~~ saturn refers to the planet :P

Journeyman Geek

As long as it ain't bigger than uranus...

theverge.com/2017/9/29/16378802/…

also theverge.com/2017/9/29/16383048/… intra planetary transport by space ship...

which is cool too

but that won't make sense unless they have VERY short turnaround times on the rockets.

djsmiley2k

7:13 AM

@Bob This is what I originally read too ;)

Journeyman Geek

...

;p

Journeyman Geek

7:36 AM

The orville is an odd show

Its a terrible comedy, but its actually a pretty good seriousish sci fi show...

djsmiley2k

Has anyone watched 'The Tick' on Amazon video?

I need something new to t watch, currently i'm watching glass making videos from the Corning Musuem of Glass...

Journeyman Geek

not yet

djsmiley2k

I have no clue what it's about tbh, but as they are pushing it quite hard, it maybe worth a watch I figure.

Bob

8:04 AM

@BenN @JourneymanGeek github.com/RootAccessOrg/TrickleEdit/wiki/Workflows

Journeyman Geek

looks good

Bob

8:19 AM

@JourneymanGeek I'd normally jump in, but I don't want to mess up with se :P

so a fair bit of planning and research

Journeyman Geek

;p

eh, There's a good reason why I made sure the CMs knew ;p

Bob

not sure if the whole scrape and submit thing is allowed though

Journeyman Geek

if nothing else, they will tell us, to tell you. Less stress like that

Bob

they probably want us to use the api

Journeyman Geek

pretty much suspect that's the case

Bob

8:21 AM

oh well, non-api lets me a poc up faster

maybe

@JourneymanGeek what's the case?

Journeyman Geek

that they prefer people to use the API ;p

that's why its there

Bob

@JourneymanGeek eh... everything about it seems more targeted towards external apps and server-side

Journeyman Geek

@Bob well, it was primarily written for SE app I think...

Bob

I'm acting within the context of the browser

Journeyman Geek

i donno. You know how little I know about software development ;p

djsmiley2k

8:41 AM

work so too quiet, i don't like it.

Tom Wijsman

8:52 AM

@Bob Yes, 2 months ago

djsmiley2k

9:59 AM

huh

when you choose 'NAT' in VirtualBox, it doesn't let you choose which interface to place it behind? ;/

But it does when you choose bridge, grrr

Bob

11:05 AM

@djsmiley2k I think you can from the virtual network editor

Briding is purely per-VM

NAT creats a global NAT interface, and then you assign it per-VM

Journeyman Geek

glocal?

djsmiley2k

nope

there's no option to choose which interface/vlan I want it to sit on

I have 4 vlans connected on this machine... so I definately need to select the right one

Bob

I might be remembering VMware

@djsmiley2k virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#changenat

> 9.11.4. Binding NAT sockets to a specific interface

djsmiley2k

ty

> 9.11.4. Binding NAT sockets to a specific interface

By default, VirtualBox's NAT engine will route TCP/IP packets through the default interface assigned by the host's TCP/IP stack. (The technical reason for this is that the NAT engine uses sockets for communication.) If, for some reason, you want to change this behavior, you can tell the NAT engine to bind to a particular IP address instead. Use the following command:

VBoxManage modifyvm "VM name" --natbindip1 "10.45.0.2"

Do VBoxManage commands work on windows o_O

hmmm nope o_O

Bob

@djsmiley2k Of course they do

You just need to either add the dir to PATH or use the absolute path

djsmiley2k

11:10 AM

ah rugh

0

Q: VirtualBox - Bind to specific VLAN/Interface for NAT purposes

On my machine I have 4 Vlans on a single interface, and when setting up networks in the GUI of Virtualbox I can see no way to choose which interface it will sit 'behind' when I create a NAT, or tell it to use NAT for a single VM. The manual at Virtual Box NAT Configuration states I should use ...

networking virtualbox nat

If you wanna answer @Bob else I'll self answer shortly

XKCD

Contains the active ingredients from all competing cold medicines, plus the medicines for headaches, arthritis, insomnia, indigestion, and more, because who wants THOSE things?

Bob

@djsmiley2k I ain't gonna turn down free rep :D

@djsmiley2k Oh wait you already listed it in the Q. Never mind :P

djsmiley2k

sure, hense why I offered :P

I already used half ur answer

no, you told me HOW to run the command

Bob

The answer will just be "use the correct path" :P

You might as well self-answer

djsmiley2k

pfffft

Bob

11:13 AM

*goes afk*

djsmiley2k

ok

Bob

:P

djsmiley2k

k weird

http doesn't work still

Bob

o.O

djsmiley2k

not the proxy either :/

/me confuse

oh, urgghghdghsh

/me facedesks

allquixotic

12:14 PM

c

djsmiley2k

12:32 PM

check out this anker power bank hack :O

hackaday.com/2017/09/29/oled-hacked-power-bank/#more-274878

Power bank hacked with instrumentation

►

Look at that thing!

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k mi actually

djsmiley2k

:O

fair enuf

rahuldottech

12:50 PM

hi

> >>

Avery

hi

djsmiley2k

1:06 PM

<<

rahuldottech

@Avery If you're ever feeling down... Go watch Brooklyn nine-nine. Short, sweet, hilarious episodes

djsmiley2k

and if you like that

youtube for 'thelonelyisland'

Also Terry Crews is awesome too

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djsmiley2k

1:29 PM

@Blogbot makes me laugh concidering how every job i've seen them advertise is based at one of the offices...

Burgi

1:58 PM

ugh...

djsmiley2k

sup @Burgi

Burgi

its such a chore trying to get steam quake to run

djsmiley2k

o_O

Burgi

you get two options, software render quake which is stuck in 320xsomething too small

or glQuake which crashes immediately

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k Depends on the team I think

Sales is heavily office bound.

Everyone else.. less so.

@Burgi that kinda sucks

Burgi

2:18 PM

yup

apparently you need to get a 3rd party render engine to get it to work

which sort of defeats the point of buying the game in the fracking first place

Journeyman Geek

Other than the WADs

Burgi

i am wondering if the GOG version is better

Journeyman Geek

GOG probably runs on dosbox or something

Burgi

which won't have 3D acceleration

@JohnCarmack stop playing with stupid VR headsets and work with Bethesda to launch a version of Quake that works on win10

Journeyman Geek

lol

.... I feel dumb.

Burgi

2:26 PM

why?

Journeyman Geek

I just worked out how to get tamplermonkey working on this

(vivaldi)

Burgi

hipster

Journeyman Geek

shrug

It works with chrome addons, and the web sidebars are a useful thing

Burgi

how so?

i remember them being a thing in FF3 and never quite figuring out wtf they are for

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi it emulates mobile mode so I can shove chat in a side bar in the same window

Burgi

2:32 PM

based on viewport size i guess

Journeyman Geek

i.stack.imgur.com/egcWE.png I really love this

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek This was for CM's I think

Journeyman Geek

actually no, it reports itself as a mobile browser I think

@djsmiley2k almost all the CMs are remote.

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek what render engine does it use?

djsmiley2k

hmmm ok

god knows what I saw then

Journeyman Geek

2:34 PM

@Burgi blink I think, but not sure about the web-console bits

djsmiley2k

anyways :D

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi its very nice for persistant "tabs" too

Burgi

are they like pinned tabs in chrome/ff?

Journeyman Geek

not quite

User Agent
19.37
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Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; SM-G920F Build/MMB29K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/59.0.3071.90 Mobile Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/1.91.867.38

That's the useragent for the sidebar

Burgi

i wish they would standardise the useragent string

Journeyman Geek

2:38 PM

I think it identifies as a samsung ;p

djsmiley2k

can i get a link to the tavern on the meta? or a invite?

Journeyman Geek

hah

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/89/tavern-on-the-meta

Its on the MSE chat server

I don't have blue powers there

djsmiley2k

why doesn't it show up in my room list :/

is this some se hackery again?

Journeyman Geek

Its a different chat server

djsmiley2k

:/

Journeyman Geek

2:42 PM

I mostly hang around there cause its useful for SE gossip ;p

djsmiley2k

hmmmmmmmmmmm

Avery

2:54 PM

@rahuldottech upwork.com/jobs/_~01622176ffdd417910

Journeyman Geek

One of the guys there keeps an eye on movements within SE

Avery

> We've a short text (about 520 words) that needs translation to Russian, Polish and Turkish. Will pay $5 per language. Need this finished in few hours. Only experienced natives.

djsmiley2k

from what, english?

TheLittleNaruto

@DavidPostill Remember this question: superuser.com/q/981956/191162 ? Check the answer once.

Burgi

yay! got quake working!

djsmiley2k

3:04 PM

well that was possibly expected @TheLittleNaruto

never fail to estimate dodgy hardware cabability to make things 'weird'

TheLittleNaruto

yeah at that time I couldn't figure out

Burgi

nice of you to come back and explain it

TheLittleNaruto

Thank you :)

Burgi

3:19 PM

its really annoying that google can't tell that i am on holiday this week is still giving me traffic updates

Journeyman Geek

lol

google is till giving me time to my old job

TheLittleNaruto

Kicks @JourneymanGeek and runs away quickly...

Journeyman Geek

leaves gift in @TheLittleNaruto's shoes.

TheLittleNaruto

leaved shoes behind as gifts sound suspicious

Journeyman Geek

the gift isn't the shoes. Its in the shoes.

Burgi

3:26 PM

its warm (initially) and soft

TheLittleNaruto

ikr? But I was too quick to think

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Speaking of sidebars. developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/… + gist.github.com/nt1m/6d5c7fea75aa3baaf3fee03ec00a0494

The second half is a WIP, but once that's done... it'd be pretty easy to implement browser-in-a-sidebar.

TheLittleNaruto

Yo Bob

Bob

(It's actually doable now but then the remote page gets privileged access, which is a big no-no...)

djsmiley2k

3:33 PM

I want split window browsing

I dont understand why i can't have it

Journeyman Geek

@Bob this does work natively. Right now

;p

djsmiley2k

because I want chat on my screen, but near the bottom

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Bob

Oh, others want to do a tile pages/tabs addon too => bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1318532

Burgi

time to join netflix for star trek

TheLittleNaruto

3:34 PM

Kicks @Bob out of universe for ignoring my greetings

Bob

@JourneymanGeek eh, just pointing it out as something I'll probably implement at some point once the APIs exist

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k this only does left and right

ahh

Bob

@TheLittleNaruto Huh, did you say something?

TheLittleNaruto

Yes Sir, Just "Yo"

djsmiley2k

Like this, but in a single browser window

@JourneymanGeek sigh

Burgi

3:38 PM

why would anyone choose the non-HD version of netflix?

djsmiley2k

lower b/w?

they are blind and only listen?

Burgi

lol?

Bob

@TheLittleNaruto :(

Ben N

Morning @Bob! I left some comments on the GitHub issues

Bob

4:08 PM

@BenN replied :P

I was reading them on my phone

allquixotic

I wonder who uses their phone the most per day among our group here

Ben N

Ah, I didn't know local storage was synced, that's neat

allquixotic

I mainly use it for teleconferences as an actual phone when I'm really focused on work, especially at home

What's the minimum iPhone number you could use to complete the tasks you do with your smartphone? :P

teleconferences: original iPhone
checking gmail: original iPhone
basic web searches to find out a store's hours: original iPhone
playing KOTOR: maybe iPhone 4S or 5

Bob

@BenN The one in the page context is not. The one in the webextensions context has three views: local, synced and managed (e.g. AD)

@allquixotic Web browsing with Firefox: N/A iPhone

Also, your original iPhone isn't gonna manage to find out store hours for most sores

they tend to be alarmingly heavy pages

apparently it's a good idea to chuck an embedded map into the mobile view

Ben N

Ah

← doesn't do very much web development

Bob

4:22 PM

@BenN lol, all the webext stuff is new to me too