Root Access

Ben N

12:56 AM

@Bob must be enjoying the newest Firefox versions' startup performance improvements

(via /r/programming)

bwDraco

2:05 AM

in Chat feedback, Oct 18 '10 at 9:14, by Feeds

All feedback welcome!

The very first chat message.

Bob

@BenN lol. still in beta but I saw those come up in Nightly News a month back

though tbh it's not so bad now, even in 54

bwDraco

Firefox used to be awfully slow to shut down after a long session.

Especially with all the memory leaks the browser had.

It's much better these days, but Firefox still leaks small amounts of memory over time.

Remember this error message?

> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. [...]

bwDraco

3:15 AM

Hey, AMD Family 17h (Zen) Software Optimization Guide is up (not sure when, though): support.amd.com/TechDocs/55723_SOG_Fam_17h_Processors_3.00.pdf

June 2017.

Rahul2001

Hey, Soul Sister... 🎶🎶

Good morning!

Avery

hii

Rahul2001

Life is cool

bwDraco

3:31 AM

> The AMD Family 17h processor employs a reduced instruction set execution core with a preprocessor that decodes and decomposes most of the simpler AMD64 instructions into a sequence of one or two macro ops. More complex instructions are implemented using microcode routines.

Apr 28 at 3:03, by Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco technically arn't most modern x86es risc-like internally?

allquixotic

@bwDraco In practice not terribly important -- the big compilers, GCC and Microsoft, already have support and optimizations for Zen from much earlier in the dev cycle due to proactivity on AMD's part (working with and contributing to GCC, and working with Microsoft)

most user programs will just compile with those compilers and get enough optimizations for free

bwDraco

Well, AotS saw massive gains after it was optimized for Ryzen, anywhere from 15-30% or more.

allquixotic

maybe they had to recompile using a newer compiler? not sure what exactly they did to optimize "for Ryzen"

I would be surprised if they're writing assembler for a game - more than likely, MSFT C++ based on what I've heard Stardock does in the past

bwDraco

@allquixotic arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/…

allquixotic

huh, they actually went into detail about the nature of the changes, neat

bwDraco

3:40 AM

Probably ASM code.

allquixotic

could be some inline assembly in optimized inner loops I guess...

when you're writing your own engine from scratch like Oxide did, you have to write all those optimized inner loops yourself

some game devs (many, these days, probably) that use engines like Unreal or Unity might not even have developers on staff with enough knowledge to write optimized assembler that beats the C/C++ compiler in performance

impressive work by Oxide

if you're building on someone else's engine, the most important part is understanding enough about that engine (and the graphics API) to get the best use out of what's already there... but I doubt those folks do too much assembler or even low-level code, just calling a ton of C++ APIs

bwDraco

Jul 18 at 3:54, by bwDraco

The very fact that the game brought a 2P/16C/32T server to its knees is a testament to the incredible engineering that Oxide Games put into the Nitrous engine.

Stardock seriously needs to consider licensing it to other developers. It's an engineering masterwork.

I'm sure the engine will scale to more than 16 threads if they wanted it to.

Chances are good that Oxide is working with a 16C/32T Threadripper engineering sample to do just that.

I want to see AotS peg a Ryzen Threadripper 1950X on all 32 hardware threads.

Journeyman Geek

4:00 AM

@bwDraco yup, cause x86 instructions are actually pretty cheap, and risc-like designs actually work better in a lot of cases

Its also why they could try stuff like the dual arch processor zen was rumoured to be

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek I believe AMD K12 was supposed to be an ARM version of the Zen architecture...

Journeyman Geek

yup

bwDraco

It's getting late. Good night.

Rahul2001

5:14 AM

Helllooooo

Bob

@bwDraco They fixed that ages ago.

@bwDraco Memory leaks actually, counter-intuitively maybe, make shutdown faster

The fix was to intentionally 'leak' memory.

Rahul2001

@Bob wha

Bob

Because cleaning up memory just before you release it to the OS is slow and absolutely useless.

Better to just save what you need to and exit, leaving the rest of the memory to be reclaimed by the OS in one go.

"reclaimed" meaning "mark as unused"

FYI most of Firefox's memory usage previously wasn't leaking either, but rather address space (free space) fragmentation.

A leak implies it's no longer tracked correctly.

It was still tracked, but hard to allocate because it was in lots of little blocks where a single large block was requested.

Happens when you're constantly dynamically allocating/releasing memory in small chunks, and it's a difficult problem to deal with.

Avery

@Rahul2001 hii

Rahul2001

@Avery :)

How're you?

Bob

5:21 AM

@bwDraco Dunno if I said it before, but... that's a pretty meaningless argument. I mean, I could say "the game brought a <overkill server> to its knees because it's incredibly poorly optimised" ;)

It does show it attempts to use many threads/cores. But it does not, by itself, show that it uses them efficiently.

/nitpick

Rahul2001

Intel is upset that Qualcomm is treating it like Intel treated AMD for years and years

Bob

I've seen workloads that use more cores and slow down (overall) in the process due to lock contention.

Avery

@Rahul2001 not much, trolling a bot

Rahul2001

@Avery cool

I set my finalized server up last night

Am super happy

Avery

5:39 AM

lol

I taught the bot my name

Rahul2001

6:03 AM

Someone help me out here

Why does the page superuser.com/users/432540/rahul2001?tab=profile access scorecardresearch.com?

I don't like this. Too much tracking

Journeyman Geek

errrr

There's a main meta post on things like this

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek linky, please?

Journeyman Geek

36

Q: Are some SE web tracking beacons more important than others?

I'm starting to block lots of javascript trackers using the Ghostery browser extension for reasons. Currently Stack Exchange seems to be using the following tracking technologies across multiple sites according to my brief analysis: Adzerk - http://static.adzerk.net/ados.js (and 4 other script...

and that's from Joel, so roughly as canonical as it gets

Rahul2001

Hm, ok

Journeyman Geek

6:18 AM

Most places wouldn't document it. Or even bother ;p

Rahul2001

6:36 AM

@JourneymanGeek I do on my website!

No tracking, no non-essential cookies, no storing of logs.

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 tbh, compared to SE... you're a drop in the ocean ;p

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek Still... doing my bit :)

Rahul2001

7:02 AM

* *

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Is it snowing? ;)

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill I wish... I've never been in real snow...

Journeyman Geek

chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/80249/… 0_0

@bwDraco didn't you have a dead nexus 5?

user2476549

7:35 AM

how do i find out what the hell keeps triggering the busy spinner cursor i.ytimg.com/vi/6IN34Kuyv50/hqdefault.jpg

DavidPostill

@user2476549 Are we supposed to guess by just looking at a picture? I don't know what it is a picture of, or what you are trying to do when it happens. You need to give a lot more information.

user2476549

7:51 AM

that cursor that indicates a background process is doing something. id like generic instructions on how to identify the process that is triggering that cursor. it happens every few minutes, on its own, through no input of my own. going by CPU usage isn't enough because there isn't anything that stands out in particular

Bob

@user2476549 Close programs one by one until it stops?

I don't believe there's a generic way to find which process is setting cursor state.

user2476549

by "close programs", you mean start killing processes :P i was hoping I wouldnt have to do that.. god i hate windows

Journeyman Geek

@user2476549 for most part, this place is more for talking about things than actually asking questions - we do troubleshoot sometimes, but that works better when you';re famiiar with the place

it could be anything from slow storage to ram to solar flares to rogue butterflies.

user2476549

yeah sorry about that. i really dislike the non-verbose nature of windows, the effort to hide all the technical details from the user

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek I have two.

Rahul2001

8:06 AM

@JourneymanGeek a friend of mine I going to come online here in a minute from my sock account because he wants to inspect the CSS.

Hope that's ok?

Journeyman Geek

ehh

in theory .... not really. In practice. Meh

Rahul2001

Just for a couple of minutes.

I'll create another room maybe?

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 If you hadn't told us we wouldn't have known it wasn't your sock ...

Journeyman Geek

precisely ;p

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill meh.

Okay plan cancelled, I'm coming online from my sock account.

Brb

DavidPostill

8:09 AM

Quick everybody, leave chat ;)

Journeyman Geek

ugh

I am playing with something dodgy, and I have a non dodgy problem

and I can't ask because the thing I am playing with is dodgy

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek You could try asking anyway and use ██████████ where appropriate :)

user2476549

there should be a black market version of stack exchange for such problems

Journeyman Geek

Well I'm certain its git related

Rahul2001

@user2476549 uhhh

There already is?

Don't ask me, I'm not going to link it

Bob

8:19 AM

@JourneymanGeek @user2476549 nah, cursor busy is explicitly set by an application

if you really wanted to, I suppose you could try to intercept the relevant API call

or try to log them at least. there's audit applications that can do that

@JourneymanGeek lol. steam? :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

sure

worked around it tbh

Rahul2001

8:41 AM

A gift for the mods of this room for their amazing service

Journeyman Geek

.....

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek sorry ;p

DavidPostill

Where's my rolled up newspaper when I need it ...

Michael Frank

@Rahul2001 Find one that doesn't start with dQw ;)

Youtube needs a browse mode like Twitch has... You can play a video, then continue navigating the site while the current video is playing in a corner.

Rahul2001

@MichaelFrank yess

Mobile kinda has that

HermanTheGermanHesse

9:18 AM

Hi, can any1 tell me how the System32\drivers\etc\services file should look?

user226528

9:54 AM

Hello, superguys and supergals!

user226528

(I was going for "Hello, supermen and superwomen" but realized I might be sued for copyright infringement.)

Journeyman Geek

woof

user226528

...and superdogs. Hello to you too.

Avery

lol it's easy to train chatbots

with like

making it associate it with random unrelated stuff

user226528

@HermanTheGermanHesse
# Copyright (c) 1993-2004 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This file contains port numbers for well-known services defined by IANA
#
# Format:
#
# <service name> <port number>/<protocol> [aliases...] [#<comment>]
#

echo 7/tcp
echo 7/udp
discard 9/tcp sink null
discard 9/udp sink null
systat 11/tcp users #Active users
systat 11/udp users #Active users
daytime 13/tcp

user226528

10:01 AM

@HermanTheGermanHesse I uploaded a full "services" file for you: pastebin.com/K9dm64fc

DavidPostill

10:12 AM

Annoyance of the day: UK Job Adverts offering UKP 7.00 / hour. This is below the UK minimum wage:
> From April 2016, all workers aged 25 and over are legally entitled to at least £7.20 per hour.

Journeyman Geek

10:34 AM

might be on purpose

Bob

@Rahul2001 no it doesn't. mobile will replace the video if you open a new video page.

just being able to navigate searches/lists is nowhere near enough

Rahul2001

@Bob yes I know

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Maybe. But then they are doing something that is also not allowed - Age Discrimination, by restricting the jobs to under 25s

Journeyman Geek

or getting people wgo don't know their rights

djsmiley2k

11:05 AM

@DavidPostill amusing fact, the cheapest childcare we can find around here is £4/hr, meaning if you have 2 kids it aint worth working

user226528

Maybe you should find a job in childcare then. Maybe you should do mutual childcare!

user226528

Or maybe having two children with enough time distance between them, so that one can care for the other.

user226528

I think there was a film about doing this too. Ramona and Beezus, I think.

DavidPostill

What's worse is that is for a job with unsociable hours:
> The hours of work will be evening cover between Friday to Sunday with hours of 4.00pm - 10.00pm.

user226528

Bloody hell. What job is that? Night guard?

DavidPostill

11:13 AM

No premium for working all evenings and including weekends.

@FleetCommand Call centre

> Free parking and weekly pay are just some of the benefits

user226528

Bloodshedy hell. Call centers kill the soul.

DavidPostill

Yeah. Weekly pay is a benefit?

user226528

Benefits for Satan, not the worker!

DavidPostill

Being unemployed is depressing :/

user226528

And that's the best part of it.

user226528

11:16 AM

The worst part is... well, not having any money.

user226528

I once experienced it firsthand.

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand Yep. I'm way over qualified for these call centre jobs but I have to apply for them :/ Or lose my UKP 1.75 unemployment benefit :/

I'm applying for every call centre job in Liverpool and still not getting interviews.

That's at least 10 applications / week

Maybe I should apply to pick up litter. It's the same bloody pay ...

user226528

@DavidPostill Well, do that! At least in my country, it is better than a call center. You get to wear a respectable uniform and thick gloves. The smell is the only problem. Still, better than the call center.

Bob

@FleetCommand I was going to say that thick gloves are horrible but then I remembered you're talking UK weather :P

might need a raincoat though...

user226528

I remember when I was a little child, the streets were cleaned with brooms. Now, robots do that.

Avery

11:26 AM

They're still cleaned by brooms here

At least the pavements

Roads are cleaned by those huge trucks with spinning thingies

user226528

Yeah. We call them robots. They used to have drivers; sometimes, they still have.

Bob

huh, that's a new one

click HNQ, see picture of kitten genitals

user226528

Ew.

DavidPostill

11:51 AM

@Bob At least it wasn't fox genitalia ;)

user226528

Today I proof-read a rather embarassing typo in a newly authored draft. Someone had added an extra letter to "pop tester" by mistake.

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand You are allowed to say "poop" here :)

user226528

@DavidPostill I don't want to.

DavidPostill

(shrug)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob .....

DavidPostill

12:02 PM

@FleetCommand Or was the typo "pope tester" :)

user226528

@DavidPostill Argh! You got to it! I would have bet nobody would even think of it after finding about the thing you say I am allowed to say. Good thing I didn't bet!

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand :)

djsmiley2k

@FleetCommand rofl

otherwise the popo tester....

Journeyman Geek

or the oppo tester...

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand Well I'm going to risk posting a link to a SE question :)

15

Q: Were the medieval popes examined on a toilet-lid-like chair to establish their masculinity?

Is one of the consequences of the Pope Joan story, whether it was true or false, the use of a marble chair with a large, toilet-like hole in its seat? As the picture above shows, it seems that that chair has been a part of the papal enthronement, when the pope-elect had to sit on the seat nake...

catholicism church-history papacy medieval-church

user226528

12:10 PM

@JourneymanGeek No. I clearly said "added an extra letter". You altered the order.

Journeyman Geek

"I have altered our arrangement. Pray I do not alter it further"

user226528

Is that a quotation from someone? The Audacious Alterer?

Journeyman Geek

lol

The Empire Strikes Back ;)

tho it seems I misremembered it

DavidPostill

Journeyman Geek

yup

user226528

12:19 PM

Yeah. I can imagine Darth Vader saying it now. With his peculiar overpronunciation.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob what concerns me is sexing your small animal is something your vet does along with their shots...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek yea that ... could be better phrased :P

Journeyman Geek

looks innocent

THAT IS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY CALL IT

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek As long as you don't read the Urban Dictionary :)

user226528

Is there another name for "gudgeon pin"?

Journeyman Geek

12:29 PM

I think most muggles wouldn't know what that is ;p

user226528

Well, no-majs are calling it "wrist pin".

DavidPostill

12:41 PM

@FleetCommand "Piston Pin"

powerthesaurus.org/gudgeon_pin/synonyms

It's a "Wrist Pin" in the US/Canada.

rahuldottech

2:02 PM

Hello :)

Journeyman Geek

2:15 PM

would the real @Rahul please stand up? ;p

Bob

2:32 PM

please stand up

Rahul2001

2:57 PM

@JourneymanGeek hi!

bwDraco

3:21 PM

Catching up on what happened last night...

10 hours ago, by Bob

/nitpick

This is a big problem for me. I don't have a critical eye.

I seriously need to reread what I'm writing.

@Bob: Sorry. There's clearly a problem. Any hints?

Bob

@bwDraco there's no problem

nitpick=> it doesn't really matter, I'm just being incredibly pedantic, meh, ignore it.

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek Nexus 5X. Is there something relevant you're trying to say?

@Bob Well, I care a lot about being precise and I really should reread my words with a critical viewpoint before they're posted.

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek I hear weird scraping sounds occasionally from PC in horizontal orientation

This isn't normal?

Oh wait it had a DVD in the drive

Maybe this was the cause

bwDraco

Well, I have a tendency to draw conclusions that do not necessarily follow the facts given.

Ah well. At 24, there are many things I don't know. There's no substitute for experience.

Going forward, I'll be checking what I write more closely.

@Bob It happens enough times that it shouldn't be ignored.

Bob

@bwDraco I said ignore me; I was rambling

You didn't say anything wrong. STOP OVERTHINKING IT

now if you'll excuse me imma keep watching the csgo major finals

we seem to be having this discussion daily

it's okay to be wrong

I'm wrong damn near all the time

bwDraco

3:34 PM

lol

I guess it's nothing to worry about.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco guess? There's no need to guess, we keep telling you.

Bob

but this time you weren't even wrong

I was just nitpicking at nothing

Rahul2001

@bwDraco Dude, learn to chill.

Go watch Limitless, the TV show

become like Brian

bwDraco

I don't really watch TV.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco Make an exception

bwDraco

3:36 PM

No, I'm not going to watch.

Rahul2001

Watch the first 3 episodes

Meh, your wish

Bob

@Rahul2001 I... wonder if you know just how relevant that sentence is :P

Rahul2001

@Bob Maybe...? :P

bwDraco

...eh, this is causing more harm than good.

Rahul2001

Jun 7 '16 at 15:23, by Rahul2001

@bwDraco no, actually limitless (http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/2473/limitless )

bwDraco

3:36 PM

Got stuff to do.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco good luck

Bob

@bwDraco eh, I'm procrastinating about a dozen things

bwDraco

It happens to be the same as my first name.

Rahul2001

Ahhh

Bob

@Rahul2001 uh. do you ... not know my name?

lol

Rahul2001

3:37 PM

@Bob Bob isn't an alias? Huh.

@bwDraco Very cool coincidence :P

Bob

@Rahul2001 oh, I chose Bob for fun

yup

most definitely

nothing todo with my real name, noooooope

lol

@Bob Hey, I'm not that bad :P

@Bob these operating temps are okay for servers?

Bob

@Rahul2001 well, you're obviously not dealing with server hardware, so that's a bit of a nonsensical question

they're alright idle temps

Rahul2001

3:45 PM

@Bob Yeah well

@Bob Ah okay, that's what I wanted to know

Bob

acceptable temperatures depend on the hardware

not on the role of the device

Rahul2001

Because this thing is lying inside a close cupboard

@Bob Hm, as a everyday home use PC?

Bob

I'd wonder more about the load temps, personally

Rahul2001

I only put "as a server" in there because server software is resource intensive?

Bob

@Rahul2001 tbh, you'd actually be alright with server hardware idling at higher temps

Rahul2001

3:47 PM

@Bob huh

Bob

because they can really kick in the fan when things start up

@Rahul2001 "server software" covers about a billion things

it can be number crunching or rendering jobs that peg the CPU

Rahul2001

@Bob Well, apache :P

Hm, okay

Bob

it can be mostly-idle webservers that sit at basically no load

consumer hardware tends to not be designed for long-term load, so you'd want to keep them a bit cooler

but at the end of the day the CPUs are probably fine

I'd be more concerned about the mobo, maybe RAM, ...

bwDraco

##/powershell

I Am A Bot

bwDraco

3:49 PM

0

A: How to get hard drive serial number from command line?

In the same vein as Moab's answer, but using PowerShell this time: Get-CimInstance Win32_DiskDrive | Select-Object Model,SerialNumber This command essentially outputs an instance of the Win32_DiskDrive WMI class which contains the model of each disk drive in the computer and its corresponding ...

...corrected answer content.

djsmiley2k

4:16 PM

i run boinc 24/7
.

i dont use stock hsf norm,al;lly tho

bwDraco

i7-4770.

What thermal solution?

Ben N

@bwDraco There's also the somewhat more memorable Get-PhysicalDisk cmdlet, but it's only there on Windows 8 and newer

And Get-Disk is supposed to do something along those lines too, but it sometimes decides to return nothing at all and I don't know why

bwDraco

Get-PhysicalDisk | Select-Object FriendlyName,SerialNumber

Hmm...

Ben N

It also has a Model property

bwDraco

I tried it. Model does not include the manufacturer's name.

Ben N

4:30 PM

Weird, it does for one of my drives

There is a Manufacturer property but neither of my drives have it filled

bwDraco

Oddly, on Bifrons, the system eMMC comes up as VID:45 DF4064. The drive displays correctly in Task Manager as SanDisk DF4064.

No such problem occurs on the main laptop (Dragon), which has Samsung and Plextor SSDs and a WD hard drive.

Rahul2001

Does anyone know why I get this error, even when the file clearly exists?

Ben N

Looks like you have mismatched DLLs

Rahul2001

@BenN Okay, this is weird

Ben N

That error is saying that, despite the file being there, the entry in the export table couldn't be found in it

Rahul2001

4:32 PM

I only get error if:

extension_dir = "F:\PHP\ext"

bwDraco

It's trying to access a function that's not in the DLL.

Rahul2001

Not if ` extension_dir = "ext"`

But the extensions still don't work

Ben N

Do you need to escape the backslashes?

Rahul2001

> Error: Please enable "mbstring" php module.

Ben N

Are you sure those extensions go with that version of PHP and/or your web server?

Rahul2001

4:34 PM

Yes, I am

Just confirmed. 64-bit everything

Ben N

Did you compile these binaries yourself, or did they come from something?

Rahul2001

@BenN windows.php.net/download

64 bit, thread safe

Ben N

8

A: Can't find ordinal 372 in WAMP/Apache's openssl.exe

To fix the issue, two things are needed: 1) Make sure that you don't have symbolic links for libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll in your Apache bin directory (For example, mine is: C:\wamp64\bin\apache\apache2.4.23\bin) If you do have symbolic links (i.e. the file size are 0 bytes), you need to do...

Rahul2001

I think the issue is with me installing everything on F: and not C:, which is default

Ben N

That answer might be relevant, but I don't know much about PHP :/

Rahul2001

4:39 PM

@BenN nope, isn't working :(

Ben N

This question might be more relevant

And you're sure that you got the extensions for the right PHP version?

Rahul2001

@BenN They come packaged with download from official website

   echo "SW: ", extension_loaded('mb_strimwidth') ? 'OK' : 'MISSING', '<br>';

This gave me an error

Got it from stackoverflow.com/a/39825747/4037639

Ben N

Does it say the extension is missing, or does that line fail altogether?

Rahul2001

@BenN pyrotech.cf/rr.php

missing

Ben N

There might be a line in php.ini that you have to uncomment to enable OpenSSL

Rahul2001

5:05 PM

@BenN other extensions aren't working either

@BenN php -m shows them

Ben N

Hmm, are you still seeing the error about needing mbstring?

Rahul2001

5:21 PM

@BenN yeah

@BenN

Still get error here: pyrotech.cf/rr.php

Ben N

Hrm

It looks like mb_strimwidth is a function, so I'm not sure why something named extension_loaded would check for it

Are you sure you're working with the right PHP installation, if you have more than one?

In that screenshot it looks like php is under C, while previously you had things under F

Burgi

do you have multiple php installations?

Rahul2001

6:05 PM

@Burgi just one

@BenN shifted stuff to C drive to see if it would fix stuff

It didn't

William

6:51 PM

I think it would be cool to switch my browser URL bar to be com.google/page instead of google.com/page

Any ideas?

William

7:11 PM

... softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/44707/…

bwDraco

7:21 PM

T-Mobile LTE-A in Brooklyn, 4th & 87th. Relatively busy area.

djsmiley2k

@William I have to ask.... why?

William

@djsmiley2k its how servers are organized and also java class folders

It is one of the things Tim Berners Lee admits he wish he did differently.

William

7:40 PM

Well the first point is vague but the other are true to my knowledge

McDonald's

@JourneymanGeek What did you find out with those two rooms where when you plugged in WAN port router in one it allowed to other room Internet access via assigned DHCP addresses? I'm a chat room rookie so sorry if there's a better way to ask this, etc.

Not Dog

Sooooooooooooooooo

djsmiley2k

@NotDog oooooooooo this'll; be good

fixer1234

9:04 PM

@bwDraco, you were discussing M-discs and drives the other day. A year ago, I hunted for a cheap laptop that still came bundled with Win 7 and found a deal on old stock being liquidated (an Acer manufactured in 2014). I just noticed a sticker on it that says M-Disc ready. Kind of surprising.

Michael Frank

9:45 PM

Speaking of slightly antiquated media types... I was in a pawn shop the other day and they had about half a rack of HDDVDs

ToxicFrog

symbol and I are tidying and just found (a) "Biology with CBC" on 3.5" floppy and (b) a CD-R labeled "2001 shareware freeware and demos"

I think we need to find out what's on the latter

Burgi

10:15 PM

AHA!!! I have solved my apache on win10 issue

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A: Apache Server (xampp) doesn't run on Windows 10 (Port 80)

You may need to terminate SQL Server Reporting Services as well.

Michael Frank

@Burgi This drove me up the wall with my Server 2012 box

I just port forwarded 80->8080 at the router instead.

That Question really needs those answers to be consolidated...

Burgi

i know

i think only a mod could do that

DavidPostill

@Burgi Not something a mod normally does ...

Burgi

wouldn't they delete all the old answers after a community wiki article was created?

DavidPostill

@Burgi You could, of course, write a new canonical question and answer on Super User which is a consolidation of the answers on the Stack Overflow question ...

@Burgi Community Wikis are no longer in favour and are not used very much.

Burgi

10:29 PM

the consolidated answer would be lost at the bottom of the lost with no votes or views

if you remind me tomorrow evening i'll write a canonical Q/A

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DavidPostill

@Burgi Exactly.

Burgi

@DavidPostill aww crap now i'll actually have to do it... ;)

DavidPostill

@Burgi There you go. I've pinned a reminder for you :)