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12:02 AM

@bwDraco, writing to M discs -- is that an intended feature of the drive or it just happens to be able to do it? I wasn't aware that the ability to use those discs on a regular drive was yet in the marketplace in any serious way. Are the discs readily available?

bwDraco

@fixer1234 Yes - the local Best Buy sells them.

fixer1234

How does the price compare to regular discs?

bwDraco

Not cheap, but within reason. Best Buy charges $40 for a spindle of 25.

fixer1234

Well, if they don't last 1,000 years, you can always ask for your money back in 999 years.

bwDraco

lol

I'm very skeptical of the "1,000 year life" claim, but they will almost certainly last longer than ordinary discs.

There should be little reason to believe that they won't hold up for at least a few decades.

(ordinary burned optical discs are generally good for 5-10 years)

fixer1234

12:09 AM

Once they're burned, if it was done while the disks were young and they're stored using "proper disc hygiene", they should last for several decades.

If you're using archival grade DVD-Rs.

@bwDraco, LOL. I looked at the discs on Amazon. A bunch of people rated them as 3 stars, saying they seem to work, but they needed to wait 1,000 years to evaluate the service life claim before upping the rating to 5 stars.

bwDraco

LOL indeed.

bwDraco

12:32 AM

Speaking of optical media...

Who here remembers the high-definition optical disc format war?

fixer1234

I participated in the Betamax vs. VHS war (and lost). The lower quality product won, despite my big investment in a Betamax recorder and tapes.

Avery

did someone say vim vs emacs?

because emacs lost.

bwDraco

I was referring to BD vs HD DVD.

Avery

hd dvd never even came here

bd...

bd was huge

the sizes...

3 of those were bigger than my hard drive back then

nowadays, a quadruple layer bd is still bigger than my drive.

Journeyman Geek

1:03 AM

@bwDraco not that long ago

and not sure anyone really won.

bwDraco

BD won.

Avery

BD never really got popular

everything is digital now

bwDraco

People still buy BD movies.

Journeyman Geek

hm, that is odd. I just realised google detects my phone as a oneplus 3T

Avery

BD releases are still there, but with Netflix, Google Play Movies, Xbox Movies and the likes getting popular, they're slowly dying

Journeyman Geek

1:05 AM

@bwDraco eh, BD walked out of that fight, bloody and bruised. Then streaming video took it out the back and kicked the snot out of it before it could recover.

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bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek ONEPLUS A3003 (the EMEA model)?

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco 3000 the chinese/US model

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek Hmm...

Journeyman Geek

fleabayed that.If I get another one, will likely buy on amazon india and have it shipped to india and pick it up

bwDraco

My phone shows up as a ONEPLUS A3000 but I renamed it in Google Play.

The China model is A3010. A3000 is the North America model.

Journeyman Geek

1:07 AM

oh?

odd. Pretty sure the chinese model is 3000 too, and mine was listed with the chinese bands

also was reflashed with a dodgy rom, and I reflashed it to standard

bwDraco

Mine's running LineageOS.

Journeyman Geek

tbh, I am sorely tempted by the op5, but eh, too soon

especially with me getting the jelly (mainly as PMP tho)

(super tiny android phone)

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek I have one of those dedicated Hi-Fi PMPs (Cowon Plenue D).

Avery

PMP?

bwDraco

Portable music player.

Avery

1:12 AM

ah

android as pmp? meh

Journeyman Geek

I kinda considered those

@Avery eh, + can use wifi for chat apps + notifications + spare phone.

I don't really think there's any standalone PMPs that work for me anyway

also, I tend to throw foobar2k for android on then <3

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, too soon. I got the 3T because I had no choice. My Nexus 5X broke on me.

Apr 5 at 1:55, by bwDraco

...and my Nexus 5X has started to bootloop. I may not be able to recover it.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@bwDraco the 3 is fine for my use. TBH, the only thing the 5 has for me now is the better camera and the blackness

bwDraco

Apr 7 at 20:48, by bwDraco

Ysmir's beard, Dash Charge is F-A-S-T!

Went from 20% to 91% in about an hour. Wasn't keeping track exactly how long, though.

I tend not to use the Dash Charger, but it's always plugged in, at one specific location, so if I'm in a hurry and need to charge my phone, I can just charge it right up without worrying about setting up the charger.

Journeyman Geek

yup

that's more or less what I do

then use a normal charger for overnight use

bwDraco

1:29 AM

So... this is the first time I've tried using DVDs for a Windows system image backup. It looks like it'll take four discs, and the fourth disc is apparently far from full (Windows compresses it; it otherwise would fill five discs).

Windows formatted the discs as UDF.

It helps that this Windows installation is less than 20 GB in size.

I kinda regret not getting the slimline version. This thing is huge.

amazon.com/LG-GE24NU40-Super-External-Rewriter/dp/B00C4401UO

(Purchased at Best Buy, with a reward certificate taking $5 off the cost)

Manufactured by HLDS, the largest manufacturer of optical drives.

Then again, it's not something I would need to carry under normal circumstances, and besides, it'll be used with my upcoming desktop build (so there's no need to specify a optical drive for it any more). Win-win.

External = easily usable on multiple computers.

Journeyman Geek

1:51 AM

heh

yup

I was going to add an optical drive to my current system when I thought I needed it...

Its been what? 4-5 years?

and I burn like 1-2 disks a year

bwDraco

I used to burn lots of DVDs for photo archiving. That's been replaced with Backblaze B2.

There are few things more secure than an offsite backup.

bwDraco

2:04 AM

Feb 6 at 2:52, by Oliver Salzburg

fixer1234

@bwDraco, the listing for your DVD writer doesn't list M-discs. Do they advertise that?

bwDraco

Pay attention to the product image.

fixer1234

Missed it. Yeah, right on the door.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I have mine if only because I moved it from the old one :P

bwDraco

(the M-DISC logo on the Amazon product image is old)

The glossy finish is a fingerprint magnet.

Bob

2:19 AM

blmp

bwDraco

Huh?

allquixotic

blmp sounds like a fox noise

bwDraco

:P

Bob

well it was me trying to say flomp and typoing hard

Avery

why not just buy amazon.com/dp/B00ODDE33U and not that?

allquixotic

2:25 AM

btw @Bob, I'm still in J2EE7 hell

Wishing you could reverse engineer your DB schema into JPA entities from the reference implementation Apache OpenJPA from a Maven lifecycle goal? NOPE! Doesn't work. In fact OpenJPA generates totally useless entities with zillions of errors.

Oh, what's that, you thought the Eclipse built-in tool could do it? HAHA! No! It won't pick up any of your entity relationships, so you'd have to key them in manually!

Bob

@allquixotic Apache, ew. Maven, ew. Eclipse, ew.

allquixotic

So you're stuck using NetBeans (which AFAIK can't be scripted) to regenerate your JPA entities.

Bob

@allquixotic Hey, I'm actually kinda happy with NetBeans :P

I mean, it's not VS, but at least it's not Eclipse.

bwDraco

My experience with NetBeans has been very positive thus far.

Bob

@allquixotic wiki.netbeans.org/ScriptingNetBeans

> Disclaimer: this is purely an experiment, it is not a recommended and supported way of doing things at this point.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

bwDraco

2:27 AM

It's a bit of a memory hog, but the code completion is almost as good as IntelliSense.

allquixotic

my main gripe with Eclipse is just how slow it is, but then I'm using it on virtual servers and on a desktop both with HDDs, no SSD

and not very much memory (8 GB or 4 GB)

bwDraco

I tried Eclipse for C++ development (CDT). It sucked.

NetBeans handles both C++ and HTML5/JS quite well.

I wonder if Eclipse has improved over the last few years...

allquixotic

@bwDraco it keeps expanding in its featureset, etc. with a reliable yearly release schedule, and most of its components aren't unmaintained (someone picks them up if they get abandoned), but it's still chock full of bugs and hitches

and its biggest drawback is performance

Bob

@allquixotic NetBeans performs well, and is pretty stable, but has a much slower release cycle.

@bwDraco Eh, last time I did C++ I used VS. Last time I did GCC C++, I used Code::Blocks (and occasionally KDevelop).

If I were to do GCC now? Probably back to VS. Because they support it now :)

allquixotic

2:47 AM

I really want to learn Rust

Bob

@allquixotic Not Go? :P

allquixotic

it's the only modern language with a fair amount of syntax sugar (and safety to prevent programmers from shooting themselves in the foot) that has an extremely thin runtime and built-in bidirectional C linkage

Go still can't produce native C libraries with stdcall exports that other C programs can call

Rust can

hell, .NET CoreRT can't

bwDraco

I should learn PowerShell.

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allquixotic

@bwDraco automatic star for @BenN

bwDraco

:P

Bob

2:49 AM

@allquixotic IIRC it can with some hackery

But you still need to write the interface layer at the moment.

allquixotic

@Bob It can't. It's not implemented. github.com/dotnet/corert/issues/1285

Bob

Unless you use C++/CLI but that's Windows-only and needs the full Framework

allquixotic

maybe you can from regular C# with the full framework, but you can't with CoreRT

Bob

@allquixotic You can, you just need to write an interface in C

allquixotic

oh, I see

Bob

2:50 AM

You write your exports in C, and write a bit of code to init the .NET runtime and call the .NET function.

bwDraco

PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> Get-WmiObject win32_battery
Get-WmiObject : Critical error
At line:1 char:1
+ Get-WmiObject win32_battery
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    + CategoryInfo          : InvalidOperation: (:) [Get-WmiObject], ManagementException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : GetWMIManagementException,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.GetWmiObjectCommand

WTF?

Bob

@allquixotic I think the point of that issue is to generate all this automatically.

@allquixotic I was looking at this before: github.com/dotnet/corert/issues/768

And there was another issue with more detail in a different repo.

Rahul2001

hello

Bob

Oh. @allquixotic I was looking coreclr (JIT), not corert (AOT). Maybe not doable in corert yet...

Though based off that issue comment, probably doable.

github.com/Marqin/simpleCoreCLRHost

allquixotic

I'm just amused at the amount of contortions they have to go through to get native C stdcall convention symbols in .NET, whereas with Rust it's literally built-in since almost the very beginning of the language's life

I guess the question is, does Rust have the bindings I need (or can I natively call the C APIs I need) for my TS plugin

Bob

3:01 AM

@allquixotic Well, it worked fine for me with unmanagedexports on the full framework :P

corert is far from mature :P

@allquixotic Didn't you have it working with C++?

Avery

3:14 AM

why even use TS

allquixotic

@Bob yeah, TS3 plugin works great with C++

bwDraco

Fake CPUs: tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-fake-cpu-amazon,35027.html

bwDraco

3:32 AM

Jan 26 at 23:07, by bwDraco

Is Ashes of the Singularity NUMA-aware?

:P

Someone tries it on a dual-socket Xeon E5-2670 machine (2P/16C/32T Sandy Bridge-EP):

2 XEON E5 2670 VS ASHES OF SINGULARITY

►

It saturates the entire first socket, with some load on the second processor.

This is an extreme case in multithreaded gaming. This is one of the very few gaming workloads that can come anywhere near fully stressing a 16C system.

Once Threadripper comes out, I'm sure people will be benching the game on it, this time on a much faster CPU.

The Xeon processors in this video are disadvantaged by slow clock speeds and an old architecture, but it does show the kind of thread scaling the game is capable of.

The game is able to put a 75% load on a 16-core dual-socket server.

allquixotic

3:51 AM

@bwDraco not very high perf on the individual cores of a Sandy though

wake me up if it can peg Skylake-X top-end part :P

bwDraco

#AshesoftheSingularity is infamous for being insanely CPU-heavy. What if you threw a 16C dual-socket server at it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkftReyVUMw

Tweeted by bwDraco on July 18, 2017 at 3:52 AM

The very fact that the game brought a 2P/16C/32T server to its knees is a testament to the incredible engineering that Oxide Games put into the Nitrous engine.

bwDraco

Crushing Cinebench R15 v2 - Intel Xeon E7 V4 96 cores / 192 threads

►

4P/96C/192T Broadwell-EX scores 7732 on Cinebench R15.

The AotS video isn't quite up to date. I would really like to see what would happen if somebody ran a recent version of the game on an Intel Xeon Scalable (Skylake-SP) or AMD EPYC (Naples) system with at least 16 24 cores...

...and a beefy GPU like a GeForce GTX 1080 Ti so that the graphics card isn't the bottleneck.

Feeds

6:07 AM

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7:14 AM

@ThatREDACTEDGuy my 2 1 TB disks have only a few GB left.

Andy K

morning

if you have any ideas

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