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Bob
4:00 PM
@Rahul2001 Not really... I was looking specifically for Skylake :\
Even Broadwell might've helped cause they had the Core-m stuff.
But Haswell doesn't.
Haswell also seems to be the last time that doc was publicly available.
 
Hm... I didn't see that was 4th gen
 
Bob
I wanted to check what the actual max power draw (or supply requirement) for those low-TDP chips was.
 
Same with Dell. Create a password with ....
password created. (with special signs and several numbers in it.)
Error, password must contain a number
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 Huh. That might be the one. Thanks!
 
4:02 PM
It did, but not in the first 16 chars. They also truncated it
 
Bob
Hm... why on earth did it say NDA required on my link? o.O
 
@Bob Try this with your regular google-fu: filetype:pdf... It can be very helpful at times...
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 Heh. So you managed to dig up an unsecured Intel link to the supposedly-NDA'd doc? o.O
 
@Bob Yep. I am awesome :D
:P
 
Dog
> my .wang domain £8.99
SRSLy?
 
4:09 PM
@Bob also note the mirrors on several other sites...
 
Dog
> my .八卦 domain £194.65
my .网店 domain £194.65
 
lol
@Dog People buy these?
 
Bob
Max processor core current is 24 A on the Y-series. 29/32 A on the U-series. cc @bwDraco. Voltage range from 0.55-1.52 V.
 
Dog
Eh.
Max current isn't really relevant in everyday use tbh
 
@Dog my .tech domain is $49.99/yr
 
Bob
4:12 PM
 
Dog
(And my motherboard overrides the max current setting and sets it to 4096A by default)
 
Bob
o.O
 
@varfirstName Are you kidding me? Mine is 2.00 USD O.o
 
Dog
@Bob Oh
That's a load of rubbish
It uses like 20-30w to hit those speeds
(25w rings a bell)
 
I will never buy a .भारत because I don't even know how to type that...
 
Dog
4:13 PM
I know the TDP limit on the U-series defaults to 15w long-period, 25w short period IIRC
 
Bob
@Dog Well, 36 W is literally the max (based on design input specs). That's what I was looking for :P
 
Dog
@Bob Well, the literal max is whatever the processor MSR is shipped set to, unless you override it
Well OK, there's the maximum design input, yeah.
But Intel's turbo boost (and associated regulation circuitry/configuration/registers) has its own "hard coded" limits, which are overridable on K-series only
 
Bob
@Dog Would be surprising to see a mobo for a Y-series with the ability to override it.
Actually, on second thoughts, my Cube tablet... well... they pretty much went "enable all the things!"
so I probably have that option somewhere. not sure if it does anything.
 
Dog
I think it's CPU-controlled (the ability to override), rather like the unlocked multipliers themselves
 
Bob
ah
 
Dog
4:16 PM
In my humble experience, the turbo power limits always become the limiting factor well before the current limits actually kick in.
 
Bob
@Dog Makes sense!
 
Dog
Although it's potentially possible for very short current spikes to go over even the short-period power limit (I don't actually know over what period it's measured, also, AFAIK it's estimated)
 
.wang domains are created specifically for the families of the wang dynasty
 
Bob
But, yea, TDP has always been a long-term average/cooling target.
SDP is just plain weird.
 
Use a VPN to access GoDaddy guys... Domains are like 98% cheaper in India :/
 
Bob
4:18 PM
o.O
 
Dog
SDP can GDIAF
 
Bob
lol
@Dog I think you were the one who told me about all this last time :P
 
Dog
SDP? I don't think so, I don't know anything about SDP :-/
 
Bob
> These updates help protect you in an online world -- Windows 10
 
Dog
Also my safely remove hardware button has disappeared :-(
 
Bob
4:19 PM
@Dog No, the rest of the TDP, boost, etc., stuff
 
Dog
@Bob Ah that's possible. I do know about that stuff.
@Bob Not being an eegit is all I need to protect me in an online world
I have too many spare SSDs. #FirstWorldProblems
 
Bob
@Dog make a giant RAID0 array and benchmark it!
 
Dog
@Bob I don't have enough connectors
That's part of the problem
 
Bob
lol
 
Dog
Oooh wait I have my SATA secondary bay adapter back now
I think
So I can connect an additional 3 SSDs in total, but one has to be over USB 2.0
Or I could swap my 8TB external drive to USB 2.0 and connect two SSDs via a single USB 3.0 hub
 
Bob
4:29 PM
@Dog Have you ever tried transferring 8 TB over USB 2.0?
 
Dog
@Bob Have you ever tried NOT transferring 8TB?
My problem right now is I can't figure out which SSD my star trek online install is on
(Along with my steam apps folder)
 
Bob
lol
 
Dog
Urgh, this USB 3 hub with built in card reader doesn't have UHS support on the card reader
 
Bob
@Dog yea, that happens a lot
I think I have one here
 
Dog
@Bob Indeed.
Which is why I was surprised my laptop's internal card reader was actually connected via PCIe, since I've seen Skylake laptops with the card reader connected internally via USB 2.0
Turns out it was on my phone's MicroSD card -_-
 
Bob
4:37 PM
o.O
@Dog You mean STO?
 
Dog
@Bob Yeah
 
Bob
o.O
 
Dog
O.o
Probably just the most convenient thing I had lying around when I was packing/moving
Geez, taking 10 minutes to copy off even at 140MB/sec
Eh, I shouldn't be complaining. Even having a microSD card that does 140MB/sec is amazing
 
RichCopy is a discontinued file copy utility program developed by Ken Tamaru of Microsoft Corporation. It is multi-threaded, and may thus under some circumstances copy files faster than some other utilities available for the Windows operating system. Additionally, while having some similarities (like multithreaded copying) with the Microsoft utility, Robocopy, it provides a complete graphical user interface (GUI), whereas Robocopy is a command-line utility. == Features == Copies several files simultaneously ("multi-threaded"), which under certain network conditions, may reduce the time required...
 
Dog
Some poor african kids live in a place where their whole country's internet doesn't do 140MB/sec
 
4:42 PM
@Dog True for most of India also...
 
Dog
Oh Intel just launched Kaby Lake
Well there's a surprise
 
WHAT IS THIS?
 
Dog
Guess that means I'll be waiting for yet another generational update before buying a laptop/tablet then
 
Damnit, onebox
 
Dog
> The aforementioned Thunderbolt 3 connector will become more prevalent and it can do much more than external gaming graphics, providing multi-screen connections, mouse, keyboard, even up to 100W AC power supply, plus USB speed of up to 40Gbps.
!!trout hexus
 
4:46 PM
slaps hexus around a bit with a large trout!
 
Bob
> AC power supply
wot
 
Dog
And
> USB speed of up to 40Gbps
wat
No releases of 15/28w quad-core or Iris Pro chips today tho
Also Android seriously needs a "Remember SIM PIN" function
Err lol. As if smartwatch battery life wasn't already bad enough, they chucked full Android and a 3G radio into one?
Guess we're heading back to the 90's, where talktime was measured in minutes rather than hours.
> Samsung begins production of the low-end Exynos 7570 SoC

The 7570 is the first Exynos processor to fully integrate a Cat.4 LTE 2CA modem and connectivity solutions, as well as global navigation satellite system (GNSS) in one chip.
^^ @Bob
> Asus Transformer Mini and Transformer 3 Pro to launch in Japan and Europe

These convertibles will hit the two areas next month, and more details on pricing and availability should be unveiled at IFA.
So much for "Available to buy in the UK in August"
Now if only they updated it with Kaby Lake...
(Which would be easy to do, because it's a drop-in pin compatible replacement)
> in the multi-thread benchmark [..] the Core i7-7500U cannot maintain its maximum clock with a TDP limit of 15 Watts, but 3.3-3.2 GHz are still much higher than a comparable Skylake model, which would hit the 15-Watt limit at 2.8 GHz
Also @Bob ^^
Should give you an idea of how much power Kaby Lake requires at a given cock speed
 
5:03 PM
!! s/cock/clock/
 
@DavidPostill Should give you an idea of how much power Kaby Lake requires at a given clock speed (source)
 
Dog
 
15% uplift in performance at the same power consumption thanks to process improvements. Impressive.
 
Dog
Piggs => Binns.Hogg?
Nice naming scheme there...
 
5:42 PM
hi
Kaby Lake announced today?
 
is that Ken-M?
 
6:33 PM
eww, Cenk Uygur
 
@jokerdino yeah
 
6:52 PM
@Rahul2001 that can cause cranial bleeding
 
7:42 PM
@tereško what can?
 
watching young turks
 
 
2 hours later…
9:52 PM
!!/tumbleweed
 
So quiet this time of day...
 
10:03 PM
yep
I'm cleaning out my c9 account
extremely pissed that the platform I encourage people (usually fellow high school students in independent study) to make accounts on for development purposes has now implemented a credit card requirement
 
 
1 hour later…
11:07 PM
I have to figure out which one of my 30 cords behind my TV is for my cable box
when your cable box bricks itself, life is to complicate, lol
 
lol
Like I said life has become to complicated
 
11:37 PM
@Ramhound label em?
 
no label maker
doesn't help now either :$
 
@Ramhound GOOD LUCK
@Ramhound try unplugging them all
then plugging each of them in, marking the device they're attached to
 
lol that's not the problem, its just all tangled up back there :$
and I actually tried to keep it organized, but failed
 
By the way, on that theft question, as soon as that laptop turns on, his work VPN should activate
it's a startup process for most personal devices that are setup for remote connection to work
 
Bob
@Dog Unfortunately that only counts if the actual device supports CA, and it's bloody impossible to tell if that's the case without buying it. Sometimes even with the device in hand.
Maybe I should get a spectrum analyser.
@Dog Huh. That's more efficient than I expected. Not quite 3 GHz in 4.5 W efficient, but close.
 

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