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That Brazilian Guy

3:01 PM

@Dog I assume they are signaling something to their team players while concealing it from view of the opposing team.

Rahul2001

I just realized I haven't used browser bookmarks in years to link to actual sites...

Dog

@ThatBrazilianGuy Same, just curious what it means/why

Like what can they see that their teammates can't already see too?

That Brazilian Guy

I think it means something they will do next, like, "throw the ball on the face of the one on the right while I round house kick the left one"

Bob

@Dog yea that's the one I was looking at but no B40

@Dog huh, nice... at $600 a bit too much for me to bother right now (I can get a $200 modem for all three of em...) but it's an interesting option

I wonder if there's a dual-SIM variant

Dog

@Bob Yeah, one of those cases if you want everything in one unit, you'll have to pay a lot more. And probably still not get what you want.

Again, I'm kinda spoilt with the SGS7, maybe you are too and your standards for band support are too high :-P

Bob

3:08 PM

@Dog how long is that?

Dog

@Bob I've done 4 hours and still had 70% battery left...

Bob

@Dog or there are entirely too many bands in use here? :P

huh, nice

Guilherme Nascimento

@ThatBrazilianGuy Ok :D

Dog

@Bob Meh, I travel to the U.S., Asia, and Europe, so decent band support actually matters.

For people who never leave the UK or EU, maybe less so. But meh.

Bob

ah

I rarely leave AU

but just about all of em are used here -_-

micro buster

3:09 PM

hmm

Bob

@Dog just seems a bit ridiculous that just the modem costs a good chunk of the price of a full phone including screen, powerful SoC, etc.

That Brazilian Guy

See? @GuilhermeNascimento agrees! Don't we totally go to work mounted on alligators?

Dog

@Bob It does?

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 I have a small subset of sites I always go to bookmarked. Nearly everything else is an RSS feed ;p

Dog

TBH a modern high-end modem takes half as much silicon and board space as the main CPU.

Bob

3:11 PM

@Dog Z5 compact for... $500 min. One of the better Telstra modems (with worse band support) is ~$200

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy alligators are north american

Dog

@Bob Well yeah, but the lower volume products often have prices that don't really bear any resemblance to their bill of materials

Bob

point

still annoying as the consumer :P

Rahul2001

My bookmarks bar:

That Brazilian Guy

Black caiman

The black caiman (Melanosuchus niger) is a large crocodilian and, along with the American alligator, is one of the biggest extant members of the family Alligatoridae and order Crocodilia. It is a carnivorous reptile that lives along slow-moving rivers, lakes, seasonally flooded savannas of the Amazon basin, and in other freshwater habitats of South America. It is a quite large species, growing to sizes of at least 5 m (16 ft) and possibly up to 6 m (20 ft) in length, which make it the biggest reptile in the Neotropical ecozone. As their name implies, the black caiman has a dark coloration, as an...

Guilherme Nascimento

3:12 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy People think Brazil is just "Amazon" and "Rio de Janeiro". jejeje

Rahul2001

Journeyman Geek

You mean caiman. Tho in reality you ride warchariots drawn by ~~ROUS~~ capybara.

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek

Dog

Centre bottom - modem. Centre top - SoC

Top right - flash IIRC, centre-left: PMIC

That Brazilian Guy

!! s/caiman/**jacaré**.

Bob

3:13 PM

@Dog Of course there's different variants, too... ebay.com.au/itm/… no B40 apparently

ChatBot John Cavil

@ThatBrazilianGuy That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Dog

Bottom left... can't remember... secondary modem?

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek I don't launder my illegal money on jacarés, that would be silly.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob pretty certain if you can find the OEM version...

Dog

@Bob Nah, lazy bastards probably copied the wrong spec list

Journeyman Geek

3:15 PM

lol

That Brazilian Guy

@GuilhermeNascimento And we speak Spanish, obviously!

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy what's a jacaré in english?

Dog

The only variants are the E5803 with LTE Cat 4 and the E5823 witth LTE Cat 6.

Guilherme Nascimento

@ThatBrazilianGuy LOL

Journeyman Geek

laptop is lagging and that's doing strange things

Dog

3:16 PM

TBH I only picked that one out of the air because I've known from past experience that Sony are one of the few/only manufacturers that don't skimp on specs on their "Compact"/"Mini" series phones.

Whereas everyone else just takes the specs of their >2 year old flagship and rebadges it as a current gen "Mini"

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek I'm googling it to be really sure, but as far as I can tell it's an aligator-crocodile-caiman-like animal.

Some thing get confusing on translations. Like plants not being vegetables. This infuriates me on an insane level.

Guilherme Nascimento

@DavidPostill sorry if I offended in any way, just wanted to say that was a little rude, but I did not mean to offend. And I understood your earlier arguments about the use of chat, thank you :)

That Brazilian Guy

@GuilhermeNascimento Cara. Calma. Tá tudo bem agora.

[/brazilian-meme]

Bob

@Dog band support on the Samsung J1 mini is actually decent

Journeyman Geek

@GuilhermeNascimento I always find its useful to hang out on a chatroom a bit to try to understand its culture

Guilherme Nascimento

3:19 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy Ok, blz :D

Dog

@Bob But the CPU and RAM sucks

Bob

And it's only something like $140

Guilherme Nascimento

@ThatBrazilianGuy As people see Brazil:

Bob

only cat4 though

Guilherme Nascimento

Dog

3:19 PM

Wait there's a J1 mini?

Bob

@Dog as a modem, CPU and RAM aren't too important

@Dog gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_j1_nxt-7768.php

wait

Dog

Ah nxt

Bob

mobileciti.com.au/samsung-galaxy-j1-mini-2016-black-3706

> 4G Network 4G/LTE, 700, 850, 800, 900, 1800, 2100, 2300, 2600

@Dog different apparently :\

^ but that seems to cover all AU bands for $140

Dog

@Bob Tru dat. But in general, they tend to get skimped on on Mini versions, except with Sony. I wanted a mini current-gen flagship, not a two year old phone with the current gen's name.

Bob

if only it did CA

Guilherme Nascimento

3:21 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy I did not know this. hehehe

That Brazilian Guy

@GuilhermeNascimento: finally someone in this room to fully comprehend my deep, hellfire-fueled hatred for Brazilian banks "security" solutions.

Dog

The J2 does have shitty band support tho according to gsmarena: 1,3,5,8,40.

It doesn't even spill onto two lines, let alone three

That Brazilian Guy

@GuilhermeNascimento Tá tudo bem agora: A história de Lord Eternal e o Entei.

Guilherme Nascimento

@ThatBrazilianGuy really we have several problems :/

Bob

@Dog Looks like I can grab a Z5 Compact off Amazon UK for 525 AUD

Dog

3:23 PM

You could always buy a second hand/damaged/faulty S7 and use that, since as a modem you'll not really care about the camera, touchscreen, etc.

Bob

or off eGlobal for 500 AUD

Guilherme Nascimento

@ThatBrazilianGuy Thanks! :D

Bob

@Dog would be annoying to enable/disable outdoors

if the touchscreen didn't work

Dog

@Bob Bluetooth mouse!

Err, yeah. Or not

Bob

lol

That Brazilian Guy

3:23 PM

@GuilhermeNascimento And all of them, online-banking-wise, translates to diebold/warsaw/"guardião". If I could kill either Hitler or this "security" solution, I would have a hard time deciding.

Dog

Actually you can use it as a bluetooth modem, or just leave BT on to trigger it remotely.

Bob

@Dog I actually looked and there's no damaged Z5s on ebay

Dog

Heck with all the gesture sensors and crap on these phones you could just program it to turn on the hotspot if you waved it in a certain way

Bob

@Dog I suppose I can use Tasker to do that

...why is there another conversation about killing Hitler in Brazil?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Hey @Dog how are you :) hey @Bob hey @ThatBrazilianGuy hey @JourneymanGeek hi everyone :)

Bob

3:24 PM

Why is Hitler in Brazil?

Dog

@Bob Yeah or have tasker respond to the volume buttons, or w/e

Bob

@Dog now the problem is actually finding a damaged one for cheap :P

That Brazilian Guy

The Boys from Brazil

The Boys from Brazil (Os Meninos do Brasil (título no Brasil) ou Os Comandos da Morte (título em Portugal)) é um filme britânico-norte-americano de 1978 dirigido por Franklin J. Schaffner, baseado no livro Os Meninos do Brasil, de Ira Levin. O filme é protagonizado por Gregory Peck, no papel do nazista Josef Mengele. == Ficha Técnica == Titulo original: The Boys from Brazil Lançamento: 5 de setembro de 1978 (EUA) Gênero: Suspense Produtores: Franklin J. Schaffner; Stanley O'Toole;Martin Richards;Robert Fryer (Produtor Executivo) Produção Associada: Lew Grade da ITC Entertainment Distribuição: 20th...

Guilherme Nascimento

@ThatBrazilianGuy I'm shocked, it was the craziest story I ever read. "bizarro"

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I like that sound please continue

Bob

3:26 PM

@Dog this would be nice but it's a E5803

That Brazilian Guy

> Mengele, in the 1960s, had secluded several surrogate mothers in a Brazilian clinic and fertilised them with ova each carrying a sample of Hitler's DNA preserved since World War II.

Rahul2001

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Seriously, don't. We can see your message.

Overping, and you shall be FLAGGED as OFFENSIVE

Journeyman Geek

!!s/pt/en

hm

ChatBot John Cavil

@JourneymanGeek That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Well to be perfectly honest I didn't know that marking someones name like that creates the ping noise.

Bob

3:27 PM

there's zero damaged S7s

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

Please tell me how to offend you so that I can be flagged and removed immediately.

Rahul2001

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Wow, haven't you been on this room for like months?

Guilherme Nascimento

@ThatBrazilianGuy amazing reference to the movie XD

Bob

maybe an S6

That Brazilian Guy

@GuilhermeNascimento ...which I still have to watch. .___. Just my netflix watchist is on the hundreds.

Bob

3:28 PM

> Samsung Galaxy S6 SM-G9201 White 32GB Immaculate Condition - ( Water Damaged )

!!thatword

ChatBot John Cavil

Guilherme Nascimento

@ThatBrazilianGuy live outside Brazil?

Bob

ouch, this one's been run over ebay.com.au/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-s6-edge-broken-/…

That Brazilian Guy

@GuilhermeNascimento I live on the non-rainforest area ;p

Journeyman Geek

The Boys from Brazil (film)

The Boys from Brazil is a 1978 British-American science fiction thriller film directed by Franklin J. Schaffner. It stars Gregory Peck and Laurence Olivier and features James Mason, Lilli Palmer, Uta Hagen, Denholm Elliott, and Steve Guttenberg in supporting roles. The film is based on the novel of the same name by Ira Levin and was nominated for three Academy Awards. == Plot == Young, well-intentioned Barry Kohler (Steve Guttenberg) stumbles upon a secret organization of Third Reich war criminals holding clandestine meetings in Paraguay and finds that Dr Josef Mengele (Gregory Peck), the infamous...

Guilherme Nascimento

3:29 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy I have not watched, but had seen something about it.

@ThatBrazilianGuy KKkkkk XD I wish most people understand this incredible comment :D

That Brazilian Guy

Did you mean: "Huehueuheuheuheue"?

Guilherme Nascimento

@ThatBrazilianGuy Brazilian LOL?

That Brazilian Guy

@GuilhermeNascimento Most people in this room already know where I live.

And where I work

And my name

and...

OH F$%#!

Journeyman Geek

lol

Dog

If you skip the LTE-CA requirement then there's quite a few cheap-ish devices that support B28 and B40. But the minute you add LTE-CA and those bands, you've basically only got flagships available.

jokerdino

3:33 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy what else do we know?

That Brazilian Guy

I wish I didn't have such an uncommon name. I once was fired because of it.

Journeyman Geek

o0

Guilherme Nascimento

@ThatBrazilianGuy I think the Rio de Janeiro (non-rainforest :p)

Dog

:31650104 No CA

Bob

@Dog I just noticed :P

Dog

3:35 PM

Also saw the Xperia XA, which is the same

Bob

Dual-SIM would actually be more useful.

But they're basically nonexistent.

Non-CA isn't really any better than the cheap modems I already have.

Rahul2001

urgh.....

-1

Q: How does Android play music from the lock screen?

How does Android handle applications like MP3 player apps that run when the screen is locked (i.e. the user has to input their pin)? Obviously Android doesn't just let applications like music players run as root, as I have faith that the Android community understands the principle of least priv...

android

Dog

gsmarena.com/…

Bob

Even the basically-flagship Z5 Dual is only cat4 :\ gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_dual-7537.php

Rahul2001

Why do I get the feeling this was an attempt to gain rep? The answer is obvious...

Dog

3:37 PM

> The HTC 10 Lifestyle will stand in place of the proper HTC 10 in some parts of the world, India so far confirmed. Much like the LG G5 in certain regions, the HTC 10 Lifestyle comes with a Snapdragon 652 chipset, where the Snapdragon 820 should have been, and it only gets 3GB of RAM and a single 32GB storage option.

The other downgrade is LTE speed, but it comes as part of the chipset package. As opposed to the HTC 10's Cat.9 (450Mbps down, 50Mbps up), the 10 Lifestyle only gets Cat.6 (300Mbps/50Mbps).

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek Long story short, I worked briefly on a tech support callcenter for an ISP. Off-hours I was at a friends house and had to call said tech support. I identified myself by the first name. Clueless tech answered and couldn't tell his hands from feets. I told him the exact screen on the exact tool where to fix the issue. Over the phone. Never told I worked there, but it was obvious. I was polite the whole time. Next day at work, I had a complaint filed against me.

Dog

If it's a cheaper version for India, I wonder if you could import it cheaply?

And it has full APAC band support

Bob

> 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 20(800), 28(700), 32(1500), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)

looks decent

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Rahul2001

"I have faith that the Android community understands the principle of least privilege" Damn right they do... — Rahul2001 46 secs ago

Dog

3:38 PM

Or a second-hand HTC One M9?

> LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - EMEA, Cat 6

Guilherme Nascimento

See you later! Bye

Dog

I do wonder though, if these Cat 6 devices only support 2x CA, or whether they could work with, e.g. 20+10+10 3x CA

Bob

@Dog Yea, I was actually just thinking that :P

Luckily it seems Optus and Telstra only do 2x

Vodafone is the funny 3x

Dog

Guess you'll have to dig deeper into the chipset specs to find out...

Bob

Can't find the Lifestyle for sale :\

@Dog Or just test it out :P

Dog

3:40 PM

Only announced in July.

Ooh the HTC A9 is Cat 7

Bob

@Dog O_O

Dog

#177 on Ebay

Grr i need to change my keyboard layout

Bob

> LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300) - H850
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 20(800) - H830
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 20(800), 29(700), 30(2300) - H820
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500) - H860N
LTE 2,3,4,5,7,13 - VS987

goddammit LG

Dog

Gah where the heck did they put the keyboard language options in W10

"Edit Language and Keyboard options" just goes to "Region and Language"

Bob

ooooh H860N ebay.com.au/itm/…

Dog

3:43 PM

Ah... additional settings.

Bob

$600, but dual-SIM

Dog

As usual, everything I have to do in control panel involves clicking the "More" link to go to the classic control panel...

That Brazilian Guy

@GuilhermeNascimento Tchau! :)

Bob

A9's $400 :\

Dog

Grr I have a missing language bar

Ben N

3:46 PM

6

Q: Language bar missing

I recently saw an issue with Windows 10 with latest updates where language bar was missing for one particular account. I checked all the standard things and all check boxes/options which may be necessary for it to be displayed are in place (example of things I checked). Could it be something to...

windows-10 language-bar

Dog

Seriously, it's f*** impossible to switch between UK and US keyboard layout on W10 now?

Gaaaah

@BenN Why thank you

Bob

O_O simore.com/en

Dog

Still doesn't give me a language bar or let me switch to UK layout though :-/

@BenN That seems to give me an icon to select system language but doesn't give me a way to change keyboard layout :-/

Ben N

Does Win+Space not do anything?

Dog

@BenN Nope

@Bob Lol those have been around for decades. Might be slightly smarter these days though

Bob

3:51 PM

Dog

@Bob: ebay.co.uk/itm/like/…

Bob

clicked the ENG

you need to actually add the extra keyboard first though

Dog

@Bob If I click Eng I get... nothing

Bob

and click save

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Ben N

3:52 PM

In the Metro settings app, going to the Options of the en-us language lets you add new keyboards under that language

Bob

@Dog weird

Dog

Bob

really weird

have you tried installing the language pack? :P

Dog

@Bob Well no

Bob

why are all the dual SIMs cat4

Dog

3:53 PM

But I've never had to install a language pack before to switch to a keyboard layout I already have installed :-/

Bob

idk

Dog

Can't add a second copy of English UK, BUT I can add English US...

Maybe I'll just set them each to have one keyboard option only

Bob

HTC One M9U is $369

@Dog it worked for me with two keyboards under one lang :\

Dog

@Bob Yeah just as a workaround tho, meh.

If installing the language pack doesn't work

@Bob What's the M9U?

Bob

@Dog ebay.com.au/itm/…

oh, it's used

meh

@Dog forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/…

>
The "u" just stands for unlocked. The only difference between that and other M9 models are the frequency bands they're compatible with. Also, the Developer Edition comes with an unlocked bootloader.

o.O

Dog

3:56 PM

@Bob Oh unlocked bootloader?

Bob

maybe?

Dog

Because just about every phone is unlocked network

Bob

new M9 is $400

Rahul2001

@Dog That's... awesome

Dog

Did you see the A9 for $229 on Ebay?

Bob

3:58 PM

13 mins ago, by Bob

A9's $400 :\

Dog

@Bob o_0

Well the US one is only $15 for international shipping

Seeing it for about 200 to 250 pounds new in various places.

Since I still can't type the pound key ffs.

Bob

Sprint?

Dog

Gah

Bob

Sprint's CDMA I think

Dog

So installing the language pack made the language bar show up, but even with it set to UK it still types in US

Bob

4:00 PM

@Dog win10 language options are borked

Rahul2001

chakravyuha.in In case anyone is bored...

Bob

you have to reinstall the latest cumulative update if you change display languages :S

Dog

@Bob :-(

I don't want to change display languages, I just want to use a bloody UK keyboard layout!

Bob

@Dog tenforums.com/general-support/…

Dog

@Bob Clean boot/reinstall/refresh? Fuck that

££££££

Fuck it, I just deleted the US layout AND language completely

Bob

4:03 PM

tenforums.com/general-support/…

Dog

Course using my laptop is going to be a bitch from now on -_-

But at least I can type £

Bob

could always AHK it

or custom layout and just remap that one key

Dog

Bob

lol

Dog

My control panel looks completely different

Bob

4:04 PM

@Dog probably different update

ok. M9 cheaper than Z5 compact. $400, $500

G5 is dual-SIM. $600

but I cbf all this - gonna see how that new modem arriving Monday performs

if only I got a dual-SIM S7 -_-

I'd even live without the micro SD

but they're turning off 2G soon so that won't work too. bah.

Gonna sleep... Night

Dog

Night

Rahul2001

4:19 PM

What are some common encryption algorythms except rc4 and aes?

bwDraco

5:02 PM

Under a lot of pressure to keep power consumption to a minimum. I'm not running my laptop as much now, and as mentioned yesterday, I'm actively cooling the compressor on the mini-fridge in my office.

djsmiley2k

6:02 PM

go home? = 0 power consumption

@Dog how do i remove the US stuff :/

i still have the cats switching to us keyboard :/

djsmiley2k

6:38 PM

I can't actually remove it it seems

Bob

@allquicatic ACI no injuries dailymotion.com/video/x4jp2c1

bwDraco

6:59 PM

Just came up with an idea for my old tablet: use it as a satnav device in place of a traditional GPS receiver.

It'll work great as a GPS tracker so I can easily log my adventures.

The tablet can't run Android 6.0 or later; it's on Android 5.1 (as CyanogenMod 12.1).

Rahul2001

If anyone wants to learn powershell super fast: learnxinyminutes.com/docs/powershell

Psycogeek

8:32 PM

before i learn PowersHell shouldn't you tell us how long that method is used for before it is obsoleted? and what method replaces it, so we can start on it instead ?
and yea in america if you really were from the future, and tried to prove it, you would be locked up "for your own good" first, then dissected by the corporations and goverments for the data ..

bwDraco

9:15 PM

Took ages to acquire a GPS fix. The 2012 Nexus 7 doesn't seem to properly support A-GPS 😑

Dog

@djsmiley2k Lol. On Windows 10?

bwDraco

I thought the GPS was broken 😓

Dog

Find the screen from my screenshot earlier i.imgur.com/Hr5Hs5e.png and click Remove

It's like Start => Edit keyboard and Language options => Additional settings => Change input methods => Options => Remove

Cause Microsoft had to remove every useful option from the new "Metro" control panel and make it even harder to reach any settings you actually want to use

Psycogeek

9:38 PM

@bwDraco could be the link to the server to aquire such data is now broken. (all links die) . on my nokia it was so stupid that if it did not get to an agps server, it would never ever aquire a 3D fix. so stupid to create a despendancy like that, when a good sirfstar gps reciever (and good antenna) designed for standalone would have aquired a full rack of satts in less than one minute.

Dog

@Psycogeek Yeah Android has some bugs like that sometimes.

If I turn my GPS on while in airplane mode/on an airplane it'll just hang about forever never getting a fix, if I turned it off and back on again with mobile signal it'd lock in 5 seconds.

Psycogeek

All the phones seem to depend on, but not require (like that stupid first implementation) . but they are such sad gps recievers , poor reception, too many other signals flying about, still today a good standalone gps unit with the real sirfstar chips stuff is way bettern'

Dog

I'd agree when it comes to earlier phones, but these days I find decent phone receivers to be excellent.

They've improved massively since e.g. 2012

Half the time I still get impressed when I'm randomly about with my phone in the bathroom or something (two walls indoors) and it randomly picks up a GPS fix

Psycogeek

agps data can last like 7-14 days if stored proper. one cannot know the ability of an agps system, until they are without connect for days on end.

Dog

Like whaa? Even my good old trusty SirfStar 3 would only get a lock indoors in a room that had at least one window

Whereas my first Android phone(s) would barely manage to get a GPS fix indoors if I was holding up against the window, the latest ones easily get a fix at the furthest end of the room from the window, or even without windows in the second to top floor

Psycogeek

9:47 PM

yea even a real sirfstar chip, one unit will not lock easily untill you get outside, and some unit with a very similar chip, will have all the sats in a concrete cave.

Dog

Also it must be said even the best GPS fall flat vs. WiFi positioning when surrounded by a hundred stacks of metal shelves and books

So it's nice to have diversity

Funny thing is, earlier Android phones advertised some sort of "Indoor GPS" using GPS-assisted inertial-based positioning.

Psycogeek

yea why anyone would need a gps indoors :-) then they invented apps that can direct you to the right section of a wallmart.

Dog

Oddly enough I never saw that actually used, and it seemed to have just quietly disappeared

Modern phones could probably do fine for a few minutes without GPS, based on inertial positioning alone. But they don't seem to use it at all.

I mean it's not perfect, apparently the inertial positioning drift on a phone isn't good enough for VR sessions lasting more than a few minutes, but when in a car/train/etc. going through a tunnel, even a few metres drift over a minute is perfectly fine.

Psycogeek

my phone has the "compass" thing it it, that was interesting when the navigation program supports it. prior to that you had to have 2 gps reads a from and a to. before it could determine the actual direction of travel.

Dog

I prefer using the GPS directional indicators anyway, it tends to be more accurate than the compass.

Compass is OK when stationary or moving at slow speeds. In a vehicle, using multiple GPS reads is far more accurate anyway.

Heck the compass drifts by like 30' in five minutes on the bus sometimes

Psycogeek

9:56 PM

yea what is that? sometimes mine is "drifting" sliding sideways as the compass points offset about 20* I dont drive that bad, and i was walking anyway.

Dog

> pool: backups
state: ONLINE
scan: scrub in progress since Fri Aug 12 15:18:19 2016
16.8T scanned out of 27.0T at 638M/s, 4h39m to go
0 repaired, 62.14% done

pool: seagate-64t
state: ONLINE
scan: scrub in progress since Fri Aug 12 15:18:27 2016
22.9T scanned out of 62.8T at 871M/s, 13h20m to go
0 repaired, 36.46% done

Meh, 1.5GB/sec combined... not terrible, but I was expecting better when just the second array usually does 1.5GB/sec on its own

Looks like it might be becoming CPU limited :-o

bwDraco

10:42 PM

One of the limitations of the old Nexus 7 is that it lacks GLONASS support, which means that tracking accuracy is not as good as newer devices.

Psycogeek

yea because you need 12-20 american sattalites and 12-20 russian ones? when 3 will fix a position and 8 will get you within a few meters?

In russia GPS find You!