Root Access

Psycogeek

2:18 AM

Analise superuser.com/questions/907365/… Real post , or contrived, based on the actual symptoms, vs how it is typed?

only clue I find is how the title arrived in one piece.

DragonLord

2:47 AM

Windows Server 2003 is approaching EOL.

Why are businesses so hesitant to deploy the latest version of Windows, whether client or server?

Can a sysadmin explain precisely what the risks of deploying Windows 8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2 are?

HackToHell

@Bob not fair ! :P

@Bob It being up or down doesn't make any difference yannow

There's uhm nothing there :D

DragonLord

Assume the cost of deployment is not an issue (e.g. Software Assurance allows for the free upgrade)

Journeyman Geek

Change is hard. Essentially when you need to switch OSes, you need to test if every single piece of software you use works together,

And often there's a ton of custom shit

And guy who wrote it moved to another company, quit to become a trappist monk, or got nibbled to death by ducks.

allquixotic

3:04 AM

@ThatBrazilianGuy O_O whoa

Psycogeek

@DragonLord not to worry there are thousands of people working for microsoft that will scare them into changing , when that doesnt work they can destroy it with updates (just by accident) or reveal all the vulnerabilities it has always had to the hackers. They will comply, resistance is futile.

Journeyman Geek

3:28 AM

@DragonLord - lemme give you a small example. We switched from having python packages as eggs to standalone. Somehow we moved from an older non buggy version to a newer version ... with the same version number.

Bob

@HackToHell the rest of the server is important, though

Journeyman Geek

And that nearly knocked out the whole company

Bob

they replaced the blade, then I had to go an edit the persisted MAC addresses so it could associate eth0 with the new NIC

which reminds me, I need to look into moving again when I have time... probably OVH since @allquixotic has no issues there

@DragonLord Money. Compatibility. Effort.

HackToHell

So basically me playing about with ghost helped you find out that your super critical vps was down!

\m/

Bob

There's still people out there relying on IE5 (or older!) because some decade-old webapp won't work with anything else and the company that wrote it disappeared that same decade ago.

@HackToHell eh, not really... it just happened to go down in that time. probably shouldn't have been sidetracked with that at 1am

still, I do need to set up some kind of monitoring too :S

HackToHell

3:33 AM

Newrelic ?

yes, I am bored.

Journeyman Geek

Ahh, yes, the black knight of the sith.

Psycogeek

4:17 AM

dang Richie Frame superuser.com/questions/907373/… gets most patient SU answerer award :-)

allquixotic

@Bob why do you need to move?

XKCD

4:50 AM

Hang on, I've heard this problem. We need to pour water into the duct until the phone floats up and ... wait, phones sink in water. Mercury. We need a vat of mercury to pour down the vent. That will definitely make this situation better and not worse.

Journeyman Geek

5:22 AM

THIS ONLY A FLESH WOUND.

0_0

@allquixotic @xkcd THATS TOO PERFECT

HackToHell

Blah, I am reading too much manga, I read that right to left

Journeyman Geek

You're supposed to read that left to right.

HackToHell

Damn you directions ;p

gowth.me/lenovoz50-70review

Psycogeek

5:37 AM

@XKCD Ha ha, thats just the problem the batteries do not last for weeks :-)

Journeyman Geek

5:51 AM

@HackToHell: yay, more people doing random product reviews ;p

OH. MY. $deity....

2

GOG has tie fighter collector's edition.

(though, ugh, I need a stick to play it right, and I wouldn't use it for anything else)

0_0

hackaday.com/2015/04/28/…

DragonLord

6:06 AM

> $deity

lol

Journeyman Geek

surfacepro3ssdupgrade.blogspot.mx/2015/02/…

Someone cut a window into a SP3 to upgrade it 0_0

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek So i guess taking it apart with a plasma cutter or bandsaw is out ?

Journeyman Geek

hm. Probably ;p

Psycogeek

what are they trying to protect? the longevity.

Journeyman Geek

Naw, probably cheaper production costs.

And thinness

Psycogeek

6:16 AM

now wondeing what it takes to change the battery 2-3 years after purchacing it.

Journeyman Geek

You probably can't ;p

DragonLord

I normally intend PCs to be investments to be usable for 3-5 years.

Journeyman Geek

yup

DragonLord

The Surface Pro 3 is a no-go as a result.

Psycogeek

The bandsaw worked on the china androids :-) lots of foam tape double sides tape, and hot glue used. Damn people never heard of screws.

Journeyman Geek

6:18 AM

5-7 for a primary PC. If I want a 2-3 year box, I'd get a cheapie, like my stream

DragonLord

This is okay for something like a Dell Venue 8 Pro, but not for something as expensive as an SP3.

Journeyman Geek

(annoying thing is other than the screen, its actually a nice box)

Psycogeek

(SP3) were just lucky that many of these will be purchaced, so when it comes time to change things, there will be more than one psycho-geek out there shredding into em.

Psycogeek

6:58 AM

superuser.com/questions/907435/… there are just some days when "What The F--- Else Would It Mean" is the right answer . But i do understand the frustration, and desire for a confirmation.

HackToHell

7:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek I didn't really know what else to put there :D

DragonLord

thewindowsclub.com/enable-verbose-status-message-windows

Just enabled the "Display highly detailed status messages" GPO on my laptop.

HackToHell

Nice

Bob

@allquixotic cause it hasn't been all that reliable?

DragonLord

This is enabled by default on Windows Server

Not that it's hugely useful in a client environment, but it provides added information that can be used to diagnose issues starting up, shutting down, or signing in or out.

Group Policy is a huge reason I selected the Pro edition of Windows 8.1.

Client Hyper-V is the other major reason.

The OS is one of the last things I will skimp on in any PC build.

Journeyman Geek

If I'm not running windows pro, I'm running linux with KDE ;p

DragonLord

7:46 AM

In fact, I strongly prefer Hyper-V for its Windows integration.

No more VirtualBox for me :)

It's a proven enterprise-grade virtualization solution adapted for use in a client environment.

HackToHell

CentOS doesn't seem to like Hyper-V

DragonLord

I love the fact that I can just mount VHDX files and manipulate them directly without the need for special software

Psycogeek

@DragonLord It is nice to know your doing something. Not you the computer :-) I love to see those messages both at entry and exit. especially if one of them is taking to long.

DragonLord

> Please wait for the User Profile Service

I first encountered these messages when I experimented with Hyper-V Server on my old laptop.

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord: I can do that on qcow2/kvm too ;p

DragonLord

7:53 AM

In any case, easily worth the +$55 at build time.

Psycogeek

8:31 AM

more comedy superuser.com/questions/907474/… "will burst in to the RAM when the system is turned on and decrease the efficiency & life of the RAM by creating the black spots" well sort of, but NO!

Oliver Salzburg

9:11 AM

@Psycogeek Those are not good answers :P

I wonder what "black spots on RAM" are though

Journeyman Geek

9:52 AM

clearly, the laptop has been contaminated by bullshit

djsmiley2k

113358405632 bytes (113 GB) copied, 4970.19 s, 22.8 MB/s
slow dd is slow :(

Psycogeek

10:03 AM

@OliverSalzburg Well black spots are the fact that a full reset and a full reload of everything has not occured, and the ram will be returned sector by sector (so to speak) back to the exact state it was in right? So any ram laeking, big bloody messes from programs and huge gaping unused holes will still exist?

Oliver Salzburg

@Psycogeek That makes no sense to me

Psycogeek

(this comes from re-interpreting the 27 psudo-english wording that gets used on tech sites, when everyone is trying thier best to speak english, but it just isnt the first language)

Well if we take everything out of your garage, but then put it all back in the exact same way it was , whats the point :-)

Oliver Salzburg

10:23 AM

@Psycogeek Exercise?

Psycogeek

10:55 AM

wow i was looking up some of the "site stats" at various ranking locations, and everything is compeltly different. One shows that 4/5ths of the views are male, and 68% of new views are asian. one shows the value at 10mill, another 17mill, another 24mill. And the really weird for these things. One shows the "location" in new york, one shows it in sanFrancisco, and one shows it located in singapore (i knew JMGs PI was up to something)

They all show that it is completly safe place to browse (have to agree with that). That a page load is only some fast, or it is really fast, weird because they are all always really fast.

theres a good one current value (with 17mill pageviews a month) 168english pounds

that one says it has 12mill Daily pageviews , when they do wrong they do it big

Psycogeek

11:20 AM

Bounce rate is an Internet marketing term used in web traffic analysis. It represents the percentage of visitors who enter the site and then leave ("bounce") rather than continuing on to view other pages within the same site.
Alexa bounce rate for SU 83%

Psycogeek

11:36 AM

Wikipedia,org has a bounce rate of ~51% , undoubtedly due to all thier cross links. so even if you only went to find out one thing, on one page, that one page is loaded with links off that page.

Bob

@djsmiley2k choose a better block size

djsmiley2k

wut about errors D:

Bob

11:49 AM

errors?

djsmiley2k

the drive is dying

at least I think it is

Bob

use ddrescue (gddrescue package), not plain dd

djsmiley2k

yeah not sure why I didn't start doing that D:

HackToHell

reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/348vlx/…

djsmiley2k

wut o_O

Psycogeek

12:13 PM

@HackToHell I tried to warn you before that there are only 2 people on the web, me and you, and the rest of them are either bots, or just one of us logging in as a different user.

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djsmiley2k

12:31 PM

:D

Journeyman Geek

On the internet, everyone else could be a dog.

Bob

Amusingly ridiculous question, but with disturbingly poor answers: superuser.com/questions/907474/…

Oliver Salzburg

12:51 PM

@Bob Ugh, they got even more upvotes now :P

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Seriously, where are these votes coming from? o.O

That answer really explains nothing at all.

Psycogeek

1:05 PM

youtube.com/watch?v=xPwbDNGS07c What is it they say about "A Women Scorned"

boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2013/03/… Hope to god your porn arrives , but dont bet on it

HackToHell

2:39 PM

@Psycogeek I am not a bot, I am a cat.

Journeyman Geek

That's exactly what a bot would say.

djsmiley2k

And cats never identify themselves.

That Brazilian Guy

3:44 PM

@OliverSalzburg 27 upvotes. dafuq. superuser.com/a/907534/165442

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy that one's alright-ish. this was top with 8 votes when I saw it

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob I think this is the most satisfatory answer currently superuser.com/a/907560/165442 (except for the last paragraph)

Oliver Salzburg

4:16 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy It's really a comment, not an answer. I'm pretty sure it will be converted if it isn't improved

HackToHell

Oh look microsoft lauched a code editor !

Visual Studio Code

Everyone let's launch a SE code editor build with node.js and other $wag tech \m/

Oliver Salzburg

5:46 PM

@HackToHell I took the liberty of adding a link to your message ;D

Bob

@allquixotic are things calming down over there?

O_O

@allquixotic duoco.de

> C#-to-JavaScript compiler

DragonLord

7:13 PM

Seriously?

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A: Can hibernating the computer damage the RAM?

Hibernation will not damage your computer's RAM. When you place your computer into hibernation, any RAM in use is compressed and stored onto disk. When you turn your computer back on, the compressed RAM image is loaded and normal operation resumes. As with most devices requiring a non-trivial a...

DRAM is refreshed continuously during system operation, so there's no way hibernation will damage the RAM.

Oliver Salzburg

> But to say that writing data from HDD to RAM can burst your RAM is the same as if somebody says that driving Ferari with a horse speed can burst Ferari engine. It can't because RAM is much faster

wat

Bob

@DragonLord Ben Voigt actually mentioned that in a since-deleted comment.

And it's a comment on the question, too...

Computers usually use DRAM so it seems unlikely as the DRAM is constantly refreshed. I means that whole RAM is read and written to about 15 times per second. So it would seem likely that any other read/write would have negligible effect on lifetime. Assume you would hibernate/resume only for 15 minutes each time - you would get 13500 writes of whole memory due to refreshes and 1 due to resume. — Maciej Piechotka 3 hours ago

shrug

But, yea, most of the answers are terrible.

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