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1:35 AM

@bertieb there is a standard cup

But it's a volumetric measurement and is imprecise for non fluids

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gparyani

7:24 AM

So, finally, SSD prices have fallen to the same levels as hard drives here...they were always slightly more expensive. Case in point: WD Blue 500 GB 2.5" SSD and WD Black 500 GB 7200 RPM 2.5" HDD both cost $54 (US).

When it comes to general computing use, I don't see why one would opt for the hard drive. I say this as I own both products

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Michael

1:35 PM

@gparyani Looks like the SSD is on sale. Regular price is $69.99.

Ave

I'd argue selection bias :P

$54 for a 500GB HDD is a lot.

edwardbetts.com/price_per_tb

2:01 PM

Oh, I should update my HDD-vs-LTO spreadsheet for 2021

its interesting finding the crossover point

in terms of cost-per-TB

kinda fluctuates based on what's available second hand

ooh

LTO6 drives cheaper than I've seen 'em before

2:25 PM

Seagate are doing an 8TB drive for £150 (woo?) but it's SMR (boo)

Toshiba have the N300 which is 8TB at £153, so pretty similar and isn't SMR AFAICT

so it seem hard drives are still cheaper until somewhere north of 20TB?

assuming uncompressible data, of course

oh LTO-5 has gotten cheaper too

...I'm thoroughly nerdsniped at this point...

I am intending to add a second drive to my NAS

Goals is on,y nvme SDD in desktop, monthly backups to NAS (cq copiying movies from NAS to local SSD)

Excrept thayt for now I have 4TB spinning rust in my ol ddesktop

And that the NAS is powered off

But regular backups to NAS, and tyearly backups to offline external SSD sound really nice

Qua nvme. I now seem to habe
256MB (MLC)
512MB (MLC)
1TB (SATA, not used)
2TB Intel 760 (d:\games)
2TB ordered (PCIe v2 2TB)

When prices drop more I might just add a third SSD (4TB,)

luckily the mb has 3x NVmE pcie-v4

@bertieb All new PC part ordered

When it gets here I can build my new main core PC and dump old stuff

2:48 PM

@Hennes Nice :)

Right now left:

X85/i920/3x DIMM (or 6x if I can find to old one).
900 GR cooler

a few old 1TB HDD

Weight wise not worth shipping, unless you just want DDR3)

AStock z170 extreme 4 with intrl G4400 (possibly woth it)
Mobved all RAM to my main desktop though

450W PSU (fun, but lacking connections) Powermain gmain desktop

600W PSU from 2008 (coolermaster 450W). Probaky not worth shipping

DDR3 is cheap if you don't mind off brand chinese stuff

.25 & .5 TB MLC SD soon obsolete (after wiping in the new PC) to be sensible except if you need

too small except if you need a log dribe

PM961 I think

MLC

@Hennes heh. I'm starting to have those 'spare' so...

also, I have some 120gb sata dramless chinesium ones...

They are... ok, other than not really having a use for them now

Interesting
Frankenserver is DDR3, CPU is i5-2500K; would need to compare
.25 / .5TB are never too small; I'm running those in main PC right now...

2:54 PM

@bertieb 250gb was my standard across 3 drives

(I upgraded to dual 1tb, cause why not?)

Money?

;-P

Money si a very good reason

points at 120gb drives

the were 50c a tb years ago

whit

but yes

2:55 PM

50c / TB ?

money :D

*gb

ahhh

if they had drives for 50c a tb, I'd fill a few grocery carts with them

I was thinking "the best, SMR-iest HDD is about £20ish a TB right now" :P

well yeah!

give it a few years

What SKU Where
Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master Socket AM4 ATX AMD B550 B550 AORUS MASTER MaxICT
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X processor 3,7 GHz 64 MB L3 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X MaxICT
Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 Processor Koeler bk022 MaxICT
2x set Patriot D416GB 4133-18 Viper 4 Blackout K2 PAT PVB416G413C8K MaxICT
Samsung PM9A1 2TB MZVL22T0HBLB-00B00 MaxICT
Enermax MaxTytan 800W voeding EMT800EWT ALTERNATE
be quiet! SILENT BASE 802 tower BG039 ALTERNATE
Artic silver 5 Artic silver 5 Bol.com

old PC1:

Gigabyte Z170X gaming 7
Intel I6600k
cooler
4x ram
Samsung SM951 (NVMe) MZVPV512 Current OS disk, MLC, .5 TB
Crucial CT1024mx200SSD1 Not used. Was the old games disk. SATA
Intel SSD 2.0TB 760p M.2 PCIe ALTERNATE Atm in use as d:\games
ST4000DM000-1F2168 4TB HDD, storage.
GTX1080
Windows 10 pro n
Office 2016

unused PC:

Asrock Z170 extreme 4
Intell G4400
Samsung 951 256MB?
600W PSU

The box fot the extreme4 and G4400 has been lcoated

@bertieb let me know if I need to ship MB+CPU (+256MB drive)
Still not sure if it is finally worth it

But also not worth vice versa

Would make a nice server/NAS with good caching, and 2x 3.3GHz skylake cores
Otoh old tech, two core (compared to day 8 or 12)

also, same for everyone her on the channel 3x DDR3, i920 and if weight is not a problem a M and 900grams off Nehalem cooler

Truely though, 3x DDR3 makes sence, the rest probaby should be recycled

I just feel bad for discarding working systems'

On that note: Asus Eee (600MHz cloaked celeron 900Mhz)

Old old trch. Almost as old as the 4.77MHz IBM which I am def. keeping

3:08 PM

@Hennes I'll have a look at the mobo but I think the DDR3 and the drives would be worthwhile for sure

nods

lightweight

the mobo is DDR4?

wait no

looked up the wrong one

Mobo is DDR4

wait yes, it's DDR4 as is the G4400

sorry, brain trying to keep track of too many things

I should put the LTO stuff on one side for now

But last week I moved all sticks to the current backup mobo (now at 4x 8GB)

Newbie order boaord also has 4c 8MB. But at 4133 rather then 2133

LTo are nice backups

3:14 PM

Yeah, I was just seeing if they made sense versus buying hard drives and keeping those safe and offline somewhere

my provisional conclusion is that if I could get an LTO5 drive for around 100 I think it would make sense

assuming I could get it hooked up to the R620

anyway

3:35 PM

Oh, if you can get a drive, a spare drive, and a few tapes. Def. worthwhile

But I got a HW raid card in 2009/ Redundant swtup.... and a dead HW RAID card

Unless you have a backup for the tape drive consider at least one alternate backup

Either local otherwise, (HDD, 2nd tape) or off-line

Aye fair point

3:52 PM

I fdound that out the day after I bought a backup drive... and powered up the PC (drive still in bag) to find a dead RAID card

Also, bad of me no tice only now

But 3x spare Dell R300

Still fun for a lab. I mean. connect SATA, play domain controller. Physical pull a power cord or a drive and resolve

But realistically: Why are they using my limited space?

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