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12:35 AM
I got a question and I figure someone here will be able to help me out
So I'm currently running my webserver off consumer-grade hardware, and while I think it'll do fine in terms of processing power, that's definitely not the case for storage
So how do I go about implementing really fast network storage, off/on which the webserver scripts can read/write on the go?
I'm thinking of getting some sort of a PC with enough expansion ports (SATA or NVMe - preferably the latter) to be able to set up proper drive mirroring
But once that's done... how do I go about the software side of things?
Just... good ol' Windows folders shared over LAN?
(Network is 1Gbps)
Or... do I do some sort of local storage and mirroring/backups to the network? If this is still applicable, then disks are faster than network
 
 
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2:29 AM
In general, how do you do storage for webservers?
 
 
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4:25 AM
@rahulatschool for most of us, just stock.
backing up webservers is... less fun
don't forget, your uplink and downlink is probably worse than anything local
my 'proper' web server is 'just' an 8 core avaton with a 500gb ssd
and I worked in a place that pretty much ran everything off a SAN
for 200 PCs
gigabit is probably good enough on your end :D
and even the slowest storage is likely faster tan network
 
 
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9:34 AM
if you need faster than 'standard' offerings, you're looking at a farm ofreverse proxying nginx servers, lots of ram, etc
but thismeans your internet access is already not the bottle neck?
 
 
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1:25 PM
Pretty much
 
2:21 PM
Wow. So shareholders have sued companies in an effort to force tax inversions.
Or I might have misread the case. The lawsuit is about the company hiding its intentions from shareholders, saying that it's not about taxes when it in fact is.
> Rather than tell investors the truth that the tax benefits of reincorporating in Ireland were the primary rationale for the Combination – indeed, the sine qua non for the Combination – AbbVie chose to downplay the tax benefits in light of the negative stigma of these inversions and dupe investors into believing this transaction made strategic sense with or without the tax inversion benefits when subsequent events proved that the Combination would not proceed absent the tax benefits.
Wat.
So investors, after all, don't like tax inversions...
Other relevant cases involve Medtronic and Johnson Controls.
(in both cases involving the capital gains tax that companies' shareholders are subject to when they undergo inversions)
 
@bwDraco And the relevance of all this is exactly?
 
Some past thoughts about shareholder greed and corporate pushs to avoid taxes.
My apologies. You can remove the messages in question if you'd prefer...
 
 
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3:52 PM
@JourneymanGeek Okay makes sense
How do I go about setting up a simple 'SAN'?
 
 
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6:21 PM
Storage area network?
you have a storage controller, and aload of storage nodes, which have lots of storage on them
all of which is $$$
I'm still left wondering what you're doing that needs such storage.
generating rainbow tables?
 
 
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7:38 PM
@rahuldottechsupportsMonica Do you have an application that requires hundreds of terabytes or petabytes of storage?
 
@bwDraco No
A terrabyte at most
Needs to be accessible from two different machines
So let's say I have a PC and I've got SSDs in RAID for redundancy and remote backups set up
 
Then you don't need a SAN. The best solution is some sort of file share solution, e.g. Samba.
 
How do I go about actually accessing these files on the go from the webservers? Good ol' Windows shared folders?
 
NFS, perhaps?
 
1. Needs to have good support on Windows
2. Needs to be fast
 
7:41 PM
(not familiar with network shares under Linux)
 
I'm not using Linux
 
Samba is probably going to be the most straightforward option.
@rahulatschool What's the server?
 
All three machines are Windows. The two servers are running a PHP+Apache stack
 
The easiest option is going to be regular SMB shared folders.
 
7:45 PM
Yup.
 
8:06 PM
yup, that's the simplest option
try it, see if it works
if not, then look at more complicated things
 

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