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12:17 AM
If not, I'll just hold onto them as a memento.
 
12:32 AM
@bwDraco Wait, desktop/laptop ram?
 
12:49 AM
@rahuldottech SODIMM. So it's for a laptop.
The giveaway is also the DDR3L reference, which indicates lower voltage for laptop use.
 
@MichaelFrank rightt, I missed that
 
That being said... Micro-ATX (or Mini-ATX) boards do potentially use SODIMM.
 
@bwDraco Uh, can you send it over to India somehow? I... have 4gigs of unused and new DDR4 laptop RAM which I don't need if you want that in return (lol). Or like... anything else that you want.
 
As do nuc class machines
 
SO-DIMM. It's laptop memory.
(sorry, was busy bundling boxes for recycling)
@MichaelFrank Mini-ITX.
@rahuldottech I would not have a use for that, and shipping to India is expensive.
These modules aren't for Haswell machines. They're 1.5V modules.
 
 
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2:56 AM
@Burgi Get in contact with someone from the "Bitcoin Mining Company" that uses "Bitcoin Mining Machines"
 
3:07 AM
I have little clue about how to "use" computers. That is to say, although I can write code to manipulate data, I know little in the way of things such as file I/O, command line interface (I have done all my coding in IDEs), or even how to make a CSS file edit an HTML file in the same folder. Coding is one thing, but it's just logic with rigid labels. Does anybody have a good crash course in how to use a computer for more than just an Internet browsing machine? Windows 10 here.
In other words, how do I become a super user?
(Colloquial sense, not literal)
 
Bob
3:53 AM
@user10535 Hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. :P
Most of it's just learning by doing.
Run into a problem that needs solving, solve it.
Find an interesting SU question, research how to resolve it
As for your specifics:
File I/O, try reading the data you manipulate from a file. Write data to a file. Try parsing some more complex file formats - both using existing libraries and manually (but don't do it manually in a real program!)
CLI, for your next little program try the whole process of writing/compiling in pure command-line.
I'm not a fan of that personally; GUI text editors are much easier for me.
 
4:12 AM
I have a problem sending what is in `chrome://settings/content/notifications` to an excel sheet.
Is scraping on-topic here? I'd like to simplify getting rid of spam notification out of browsers.
 
 
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6:22 AM
@Bob for me too
Only ever use nano when I'm ssh-ing into a machine
Otherwise Geany on Linux on Notepad++ on Windows
 
Bob
@rahuldottech I still like vim, just not for coding
Notepad++ is just as bad. Maybe worse.
Needs contextual completion.
 
7:31 AM
@Bob if I understand you correctly, I think it has that?
My server "stack"
Cc @JourneymanGeek
 
Bob
@rahuldottech It has dumb completion. Not contextual.
 
7:58 AM
As Astaroth approaches one full year of service, it seems some of the RGB LEDs on the motherboard (most notably the PCIe and chipset/M.2 heatsink LEDs) are diverging in terms of color output from the rest of the system, possibly due to their exposure to heat. This, unfortunately, has to be considered normal wear and tear, since LEDs do degrade faster at higher temperatures...
 
Bob
 
...yeah. Fiddled a bit with the ASUS AURA software, the blue part of the RGB LEDs on the chipset heatsink are very dim. I may have to disable that part altogether.
Ah well. Wear and tear :(
In any case, Astaroth will have been in operation for one year on October 25.
 
8:44 AM
As for overclocking... wow.
All told, Intel has hit this one out of the park.
High cost and power consumption at full load are a concern, but the raw performance is simply beyond comparison.
A big return to form for Intel after a decade of quad-core chips.
TDP is no longer a good indicator of cooling requirements beyond what's needed to reliably hit the base clock.
Oddly, Hyper-Threading can hurt performance in lightly-threaded workloads, which means the i7-9700K may come out on top in some games.
The 9700K also does some insane overclocks.
 
Bob
9:03 AM
o.o
prolly $$$$ though
...not that much more than my 7700k
*cries in 2016*
 
Yeah. Cost and power consumption are the biggest issues. The Ryzen solution starts to look very attractive, but is considerably slower in games that are CPU-bound.
I wonder how AMD's upcoming 7nm solution will perform...
Or just pick an older Intel processor :P
But Intel's 14nm shortage is not helping :(
The H100i v2 I have here will cope with up to about 200W of heat without too much difficulty; any more and you'd need to add more fans (push-pull) or use more powerful fans (e.g. Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-3000), or use a larger cooler.
(though with extreme stress testing at full overclock, the Ryzen 7 1800X already does about 75-80 °C at 170-180W, depending on ambient temperature)
 
9:57 AM
> Choose your Prime delivery option:
FREE Priority Delivery : get it by Wednesday, Oct. 24
FREE Standard Delivery : get it by Tuesday, Oct. 23 - Thursday, Oct. 25
lol amazon wut.
@ThatBrazilianGuy Sooooo my daugthter got some homewor
I was reading through and saw this, thought of you ;D
 
 
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12:02 PM
@djsmiley2k priority is a guarantee. Standard is a gamble.
 
12:21 PM
A fatberg is a congealed lump in a sewer system formed by the combination of non-biodegradable solid matter such as wet wipes with grease or cooking fat. They've become an increasing problem in the 2010s in England, as a result of the combination of aging Victorian drains and the rise of disposable (so-called flushable) cloths. == Description == Fatbergs form at rough surfaces of sewers where the fluid flow becomes turbulent. Normally, in pipes and tubes with smooth inner linings the fluid near the containing wall is only slightly slower than the fluid in the central (lumen) of the pipe, and the...
I laughed about this for about 10 minutes. Well, h3h3productions talked about them on his podcast, that was ALSO funny
 
@HornOKPlease its funny till you need to get rid of it
 
> nly one MIMO channel will be available meaning the maximum theoretical bandwidth will be 433 Mbps.
More that most people will get anyway xD
 
XD
Wired wireless!
 
1:02 PM
DeaR LORD
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Q: panel breakers are alternately 90 v and 140 v

drmadefeverything in the house is acting up. Fridge has melted ice, radio acting strange, etc. I multimetered the panel box and each breaker is either 90v or 140v alternately. I have a plan to upgrade the box from 100amp to 200amp as the meter shows the system is set for 200amp. But meanwhile everything...

I've done work on my house and everything is broken but I'm going to ignore all 6 answers saying call the power company b ecuase something is seriously wrong and I could die, because I'm soooooooo sure my wiring is fine even though I've not passed the test to allow me to do this sort of thing.
>_<
 
Bob
1:21 PM
@HornOKPlease So. Uh. I now have an xm3 :P
 
1:31 PM
XM3? Sony?
 
Bob
@HornOKPlease Yup!
 
@djsmiley2k I had extreme brownout conditions (voltages between 75-95V) for almost two days earlier this year and it was a fault in the power company’s final AC transformer from utility voltage to 120V
 
hmmm
does bamboo oil combust like some other oils when on a cloth oi_O
 
bamboo has oil?
 
If it does, it better watch out
 
1:46 PM
the only one I know autocombusts is linseed
 
Bob
@bertieb ☜(゚ヮ゚☜)
 
@Bob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
Yup. Bamboo has no oil
apparently its neither oil nor bamboo.
 
Bob
> rustoleum
O_O
 
@JourneymanGeek Ohh, like the Holy Roman Empire!
Which was neither oil nor bamboo
 
Bob
1:57 PM
@JourneymanGeek bamboo does have oil :P
 
You mean, holy or roman
It was an empire tho
 
@JourneymanGeek Also that
 
@Bob citation needed
@bertieb and the british empire never had a british emperor.
 
@JourneymanGeek [citation needed]
 
1:59 PM
And the british empire was a myth. And was essentially the last gasp of the golden horde....
 
Linux question. Is pty same as two pipes?
 
All these citation variants credit to Randall Munroe
from What If
 
The british empire basically replaced the mugal empire
 
2:01 PM
(I don't actually want citations)
 
and that was basically the decendants of the mongolians, gone muslim
The correct style of the King was "King of ....., Emperor of India ...."
hence since there was no british emperor, there was no british empire...
 
If CK2 has taught me anything, and it hasn't, it's that the top tier takes precedent
So it should have been The Indian Empire, with control over some minor Kingdoms in the British Isles and other places
Not sure if I'm allowed to make jokes about this, being British, but hey
But if there's one thing I know - and actually I don't know one thing - it's CK2
 
Bob
Is @bwDraco around? Here's a question for him to answer
 
roar
 
@bertieb Yes, Y'all and your fake empires XD
 
2:08 PM
@Bob Mapping tables. That's going to be a complicated one to explain.
 
Bob
@bwDraco IMO no need to go into that level of detail, esp. not much to do with mapping
Just that SSD data retention is not dependent on power, but trapped charges. And that charges can be slowly lost over (extended) time. And that the gates can wear out with use.
I'm not too sure how to put that into a coherent answer though :P
 
> I was also told that if the power goes out and the battery is not plugged I you lose all data
A loss of mapping table data will cause that to happen.
This is not a matter of long-term data retention.
 
Bob
@bwDraco That's not volatile either, is it?
 
On most (non-DRAMless) drives, it's kept in DRAM buffer.
 
Bob
Oh you're referring to lack of PLP?
 
2:12 PM
That's what I mean.
 
Bob
I took "you lose all data" as "the drive is wiped because the drive's entire storage depends on power"
 
@JourneymanGeek One of my favourite bits of CK2 was setting up a glorious Welsh Empire
 
Bob
I don't think either the OP or the person he talked to was referring to loss due to an interrupted write.
 
Spread Welsh culture from the green valleys to north Africa
 
Bob
Which would only be a minor loss anyway and not "all"
 
2:13 PM
Good times
 
@bertieb and sheep everywhere....
 
!!s/sheep/deadly longbowmen/
But yea, them too :D
 
@Bob That is actually covered by one of my oldest questions.
 
2:41 PM
@Bob: answer in progress:
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A: How can data be lost on an SSD drive?

bwDracoMost SSDs use electronic chips called NAND flash memory. NAND itself is non-volatile, meaning it retains its data even when power is removed, but data loss can occur in a number of different ways that are very different from how an electromechanical hard drive might fail. The failure mode you me...

 
3:24 PM
> An extensive group of states or countries ruled over by a single monarch, an oligarchy, or a sovereign state.
The British King or Queen is a monarch and ruled a bunch of countries that formed the British Empire. Some of which they are still a titular head of (see commonwealth countries).
> An empire is a sovereign state functioning as an aggregate of nations or people that are ruled over by an emperor or another kind of monarch. The territory and population of an empire is commonly of greater extent than the one of a kingdom.
An empire is a sovereign state functioning as an aggregate of nations or people that are ruled over by an emperor or another kind of monarch. The territory and population of an empire is commonly of greater extent than the one of a kingdom.An empire can be made solely of contiguous territories, such as the Austro-Hungarian Empire or the Russian Empire, or of territories far remote from the homeland, such as a colonial empire. Aside from the more formal usage, the word empire can also refer colloquially to a large-scale business enterprise (e.g. a transnational corporation), a political organisation...
The Spanish and Dutch never had emperors either, but they still had empires.
The Sikh Empire never had an emperor either.
> Mahārāja (Sanskrit: महाराज, also spelled Maharajah, Moharaja) is a Sanskrit title for a "great ruler", "great king" or "high king"
 
3:59 PM
@djsmiley2k haha
 
With respect to that question... I might rewrite it as a canonical question and bless it as to stave off any further downvotes.
 
4:13 PM
Or closevotes.
 
Alright, who was it who recently dumped a spreadsheet into a database?
My mind says @Bob but my SE-search-fu is weak
 
"dumped a spreadsheet into a database"?
As in... converted .xlsx to SQL?
 
Yes
Also had a search on Matrix and can't find it there
 
Hm. Sorry I can't help, I wasn't around.
 
Whoever it was... I have questions
Np
I have a vague recollection of it taking a while
Because the spreadsheet was many megabytes
In fact, it took a while for (spreadsheet software) to load the sheet
 
4:16 PM
lol
 
i do it regularly
which flavour of SQL?
 
Bob
@bertieb 🙋
 
Well
Since I have your attentions
Not so much the database part
But, uh, extract a specific line in bash...
 
Bob
erm
I usedused epplus
 
(currently working with a CSV but want to go ods so I can use a couple of formulae and formatting reasons)
 
Bob
4:19 PM
which is a .net library
That parses xlsx
 
Ah
Welp
 
Bob
lollol
your best bet is to find an ods parser
 
I had a quick look, but the top result was a SO comment-as-answer saying "hey, LISTEN don't do that"
 
Bob
though if you just want to grep a line, the easiest (if inefficient) approach might be to pipe through a conversion to csv
 
Hmm, libreoffice could presumably do that (conversion) as a batch operation... go to a temp file... grep that... plots
 
Bob
4:21 PM
*runs away*
 
:-P
This is the problem with writing your own automation tools
It gets a bit... fragile
 
Bob
there's python and nodejs libraries
 
python, you say
I like the sound of that hissssing
pyexcel-ods looks promising...
there's also ODSParser
 
I once used a PHP ODS library. Well, two, but one was buggy and badly documented. The other worked fine.
 
...these have worryingly-low version numbers
> PHP ... buggy and badly documented
Say it ain't so!!
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4:25 PM
¬¬
 
Bob
0.0.1-alpha-PRERELEASE
 
^^ QFT
There's an acronym I've not used in yonks
 
5:06 PM
@Bob 0.0.0+git201810201200
0.0.0+svn1234
 
do you think a ZyXEL VMG1312-B10D is worth £50?
 
Sep 9 '17 at 23:59, by That Brazilian Pony
Guess which brand my ISP replaced when they took the old modem away? Zyxel!
 
5:56 PM
@Burgi new ? sure, used? no, £20-30.
@bertieb I tried, in my old role
i discussed it here a lot
it took my vm about 3 days to crunch the xls, into something vaguely right
 
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A: How can data be lost on an SSD drive?

bwDracoMost SSDs use electronic chips called NAND flash memory. NAND itself is non-volatile, meaning it retains its data even when power is removed, but data loss can occur in a number of different ways that are very different from how an electromechanical hard drive might fail. Some devices, mostly di...

Very technical answer...
 
6:41 PM
Soooo 2.0 slipped down one step and split her chin open 🤔😅😒😱
111 seem to think it's fine, but after googling some more we think it needs gluing or stitches :/
 
Ow
 
7:02 PM
wtf, don't google 't'
 
@djsmiley2k Ow. That calls for a trip to the ER (or A&E as it's called in the UK).
 
7:30 PM
Indeed.
IT was looking ok, but evetnually started to bleed thru the bandage, so she's gone to A&E with her mum now
I'm at home with the youngest, but at least he's gone to sleep now
 
@djsmiley2k Aren't you lucky, avoiding a Sat night boring trip to A&E. Shame on you for letting your wife get pestered by the drunks ;)
 
8:07 PM
lol
it's kids A&E so not many drunks. I did offer to go
...
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Q: "Microsoft Word has encountered a [redacted] and needs to close."

qazwsxEvery time I try to open Word, it does not open, an instead gives a popup with the message "Microsoft Word has encountered a problem and needs to close." If I select to restart Word, the popup just appears again. I have tried restarting the computer(MacBook Pro (Sierra 10.12)), but the problem ...

a redacted?
 
@djsmiley2k You cannot have the word "problem" in a question title.
 
Oh, wut, lol
 
8:25 PM
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Q: The title word filter is one of the worst ideas ever implemented on SO

NullUserException  อ_อThere are numerous (1, 2, 3) questions concerning this problem. I realize this is a borderline duplicate, but I'll re-iterate the futility of this particular filter and why it should be outright removed from Stack Overflow. Do you know how effective this is in preventing users who just don't car...

 
8:40 PM
Gone thru triage, hopefully she'll be seen soon.
 
9:03 PM
 
Was she going upstairs when she slipped? That looks painful :/
 
nah
coming down
but she had her wellies on, and we'd just told her to take them off
so I think she'd sat on a step, went to take them off and rolled off the step onto the floor
>_<
She isn't really sure what happened and we didn't see
 
9:34 PM
Strange. Because it looks like her chin hit the sharp edge of a step ...
 
yeah cept our steps are all carpeted and the edges are rounded
I think she hit the floor, we've got wood flooring
and if you caught the edge of a floorboard thing, i can imagine it doing that
or the door frame
 

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