Root Access

@FMLCat useful when you have half a dozen computers behind NAT. and when you don't want to directly expose the RDP service to the internet. and especially when you need everything to go through 443 cause firewalls.

this is part of my test network anyway, so I'm not gonna go buy one IP per machine

FML Cat

@Bob This is why I have my OpenVPN SSL VPN on port 443 :-P

(Basically all of the above reasons combined)

Bob

@FMLCat ya, but that would require an OpenVPN client :P

bwDraco

4:33 AM

!!/tumbleweed

ChatBot John Cavil

Bob

5:03 AM

floff

D.Hutchinson

6:38 AM

hi

D.Hutchinson

7:32 AM

talk to me @HenryWHHackv2.1.1! :(

XKCD

8:35 AM

"Since there's no ending quote mark, everything after this is part of my quote. âRandall Munroe

Burgi

9:06 AM

morning

Journeyman Geek

woof

Burgi

are you back in civilisation now?

Journeyman Geek

9:40 AM

no

one more day here, 3 days in cbe, then back home on the 19th/20th

D.Hutchinson

hey @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

oh, hello

D.Hutchinson

hi everyone :)

just doing the rounds :)

Journeyman Geek

just got back from madurai - visited 3 temples, and woke up at about 4.30 local time (which is fine! 7 SGT)

user226528

Wow. ServerFault could be a goofy place too. Look at this review: serverfault.com/review/suggested-edits/353708 Someone has rejected my edit with the reason "Don't remove the blockquote", not realizing that I replaced the whole thing with my own up-to-date research.

user226528

9:44 AM

A moderator too! 😱

Journeyman Geek

don't replace the whole thing then ;p

user226528

Stress on the ;p part

djsmiley2k

still looks like it was a quote

you didn't handwrite it all

Journeyman Geek

consider "adjusted registry entries to fix typos"

D.Hutchinson

there's so much weather here in New York City ...

I really love weather ...

especially Manhattan weather ...

it's a holiday here today

user226528

9:56 AM

@JourneymanGeek Are you saying I repost the edit request?

D.Hutchinson

Martin Luther King Day

Journeyman Geek

@FleetCommand and/or consider better edit reasons

@Burgi I have about 1gb of data a day

which is enough, I exceeded it once ;p

D.Hutchinson

I'm watching the weather channel ... it's like thrilling ...

user226528

@JourneymanGeek How does this one look? serverfault.com/review/suggested-edits/353846

Journeyman Geek

threw it a approval

user226528

10:06 AM

Huh? You can?

lol

nice :)

ya

lol

I have aboooot 6k there

D.Hutchinson

10:07 AM

hahaha ...

nice @JourneymanGeek :)

Journeyman Geek

(was my second site until the big meta push)

D.Hutchinson

I see ...

Journeyman Geek

I don't do much fun semi pro or pro server stuff at the moment so not really condusive for answering stuff

user226528

Have any of you guys seen the list of changes in .NET Framework 4.7.1? It is so large, I wonder why didn't they call it .NET Framework 4.8.

user226528

blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2017/10/17/…

Journeyman Geek

10:10 AM

@FleetCommand cause... IIRC new major .net versions come with new major OS versions (and someone will likely correct me otherwise)

Burgi

to get something to work i've had to disable a hardening measure on one of our webservers and i wondering what the consequences could be. am i best off asking on Server Fault on [infosec.se]?

Journeyman Geek

hm

what sorta measure?

I'd personally go with SF

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Not true. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:.NET_Framework_version_history

Burgi

> Restrict outgoing SMTP to root, exim, and mailman (FKA SMTP Tweak)

Journeyman Geek

ahh

ya, probably SF

user226528

10:12 AM

@JourneymanGeek Also, 4.7 to 4.8 is still counted as minor. Now, 4.x to 5.0 is major.

Journeyman Geek

erm

maybe

@Burgi ya, feels more SF/oppish, than hard security

user226528

Of course, some people might expect a jump from 4.x to 5 to also mean an upgrade to the CLR.

Burgi

righto, lets hope they aren't as grumpy as they usually are

user226528

But that was not the case with the jump to 3.0.

Journeyman Geek

hah

Burgi

10:16 AM

thanks for the advice

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi they seem to like my beardy mug ;p

Even got a deleted question merged so I didn't lose a ton of rep

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek who doesn't like a cute fluffy thing like you?

Journeyman Geek

woof!

Apparently HR!

Burgi

10:39 AM

any comments?

0

Q: Disabling FKA SMTP Tweak, what are the consequences?

I was testing web application on the server it is meant to be finally deployed to and it was having issues sending emails. The error messages I was receiving lead me to this answer. When I disabled the option "FKA SMTP Tweak" in WHM the emails started working as expected. What I want to know is...

wtf? telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/14/…

djsmiley2k

@Burgi lol we were discussing yesterday

all a bit odd

Burgi

i suspect they didn't have enough speed to go around?

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi hm - I have a partial answer, though geekthis.net/post/exim-process-mail-script would polish it up

buuuuut

I don't get any of that enough to post it in an answer ._.

actually no, that's to get mails.

@Burgi more or less, it lets only specific accounts send mails

so, you'd need to get your webapp to send mail through exim (not sure how) or sanely whitelist sending emails somehow

djsmiley2k

10:54 AM

@JourneymanGeek concider reopening superuser.com/questions/1285226/…

as... it is different

I only point it out as you're named as someone whjo closed in first place :P

Journeyman Geek

0_0

ah seems so

Burgi

i think that was in my reopen queue and i rejected it as it is just a terrible question

Journeyman Geek

ehh. the closereason is suspect I guess

djsmiley2k

the bass drum bit can be pretty much 'any instrument' I think

because 2hz?

or was it 2khz, i can't remember now

> The authors found the natural frequency of the hard drive they considered to be ~2.3 - 2.5 kHz, much higher than the frequencies of bass drums. And, significantly, the farthest away they were able to cause damage to the hard drive was at 0.7 m by a sound at 9.1 kHz.

rahuldottech

12:08 PM

🤤

Ave

is that a drool emoji

Burgi

its vomit i think

jokerdino

salivating

Burgi

12:42 PM

@djsmiley2k you need to fix the spelling in your question. my rep is too low and its only a two character change

djsmiley2k

physics question?

Burgi

yes

possibility and weighs

djsmiley2k

K, where?

I'm ill.

Burgi

1 sec

djsmiley2k

I don't see where weighs should go

Burgi

12:44 PM

> The drives weigh about 430g

djsmiley2k

There

ty

can someone ping me in 25 min xD

becauis4e i'm gonna burn teh house down otherwise :P

Burgi

like tom jones?

djsmiley2k

1:23 PM

grrr

places calling me about upgrading to smart meter

trying to get me to agree to prepaid meter

bwDraco

1:59 PM

roar

bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/…

Oops.

Bob

@bwDraco lol

FML Cat

If @Bob were a cat, would he be a Bobcat?

Also, homeless cat is now slightly less homeless.

Journeyman Geek

yay!

Burgi

2:19 PM

yay

Bob

yay!

Journeyman Geek

back to teathering off my my mom's phone today, till I get home

Bob

@allquixotic mic arrived

it's going alright - just a bit awkward positioning it so it doesn't block anything :P

Journeyman Geek

;p

well, I DID use to use a SM57 before I got the wireless washing machine tumble simulator....

Bob

@JourneymanGeek sooooo how'd you position it? :P

Journeyman Geek

2:27 PM

with a mic stand, and my monitors are elevated ;p

the cabling was clunky tho

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'm using one of those mic arms that clamps onto the desk

but the monitors are like 5cm above desk level sooo

I suppose I could raise them

Journeyman Geek

ahh

I used a proper mic stand ._.

I actually need a new DAW, driver support on my current ones are shit.

but ugh, low low low on priorities. Its mostly for mom anyway

Bob

@JourneymanGeek that'd still stick an arm in front of the monitor, no?

Journeyman Geek

nope

Bob

I got this thing ebay.com.au/itm/…

@JourneymanGeek what, above, below, to the side?

Journeyman Geek

2:32 PM

its kinda on top of a little tripod thing!

Wait a few days!

Bob

@JourneymanGeek oh, so not a floor stand?

just a little desk stand?

Journeyman Geek

no, its a little table top one

Bob

yea, this came with one, but that'd be even worse positioning

the arm works better :P

^ the included stand

Journeyman Geek

that would be a pain to mount on a 'standard' mic stand

Bob

@JourneymanGeek since when I was known for patience? :P

@JourneymanGeek how so? there's a standard screw mount hole in the base of the mic itself

Journeyman Geek

2:35 PM

ya, but angle!

Shure SM57

The Shure SM57 is a low-impedance, cardioid, dynamic microphone made by Shure Incorporated and commonly used in live sound reinforcement and studio recording. It is one of the best-selling microphones in the world. It is used extensively in amplified music and has been used by every U.S. president since its introduction in 1965. In 2004, honoring its four decades of "solid, dependable performance", it was inducted into the first-ever TEC Awards TECnology Hall of Fame. == Background == The origin of SM57 may be traced to 1937, when Shure engineer Ben Bauer developed the first single-elemen...

this is mine

that fits into a thing that screws into the stand

Bob

@JourneymanGeek no? in cardioid mode it listens from the front, not the tip

Journeyman Geek

fullcompass.com/prod/232872-Gator-Cases-GFW-MIC-0251

is the style I was thinking

actually slightly lower profile than mine I think

Bob

@JourneymanGeek i.imgur.com/sNtbPkL.jpg

pretty standard mount and works just fine :P

Journeyman Geek

yaaa... that's a wee bit unweldy

maybe overhead? ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek oh, positioned for the photo

@JourneymanGeek I'd need a rather bigger (floor) stand to get it overhead

Journeyman Geek

2:42 PM

ah

Bob

the biggest problem is rotating it to minimise keyboard clackiness :P

Journeyman Geek

(mental note. When I get my own place. Overhead hanging mic. ;p)

Bob

at least it doesn't catch breathing like the headset mic did

@JourneymanGeek also overhead is difficult because ... monitor too tall -_-

@JourneymanGeek the stand also came with a holder for mics like yours

it screws in to the same screw :P

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Pandya

2:54 PM

Hi

Sometimes, my desktop pc doesn't start properly.

Though it powers on, no display...

sometimes I tries to remove and re insert RAM, sometimes mother board cell and don't know the exact reason who cause the solution

It doesn't happen always. I use my pc everyday for 3-4 hours

And surprisingly sometimes I found that issue while restarting, I mean pc started properly, in order to switch the os, when I restarts, I sometimes face the same situation... power on but no display.

The common working solution I find is power off for several minutes and theb start

I am here to know the reason for such problem.

Burgi

sounds like a question for the main site

anything in the start up logs?

does your BIOS allow for boot logging?

Pandya

@Burgi I always get this reply when I discuss something here!

@Burgi how do I check?

Burgi

thats because you phrase your questions as if you are posting on the main site! ;)

reboot the machine and hit F10, F8 or DEL (depends on your motherboard) to enter the BIOS and have a check through there

Pandya

Yes, I am currently in the bios settings

There is one option Advance > Event Log Configuration

Event logging is enabled

I can see event logs by "view event logs"

Burgi

anything freaky or odd listed in there?

3:09 PM

o_O

lol

@djsmiley2k ?

@Burgi is this what you're talking about?

Burgi

yeah

is your clock set right?

Pandya

yes.

Burgi

3:15 PM

so its failing after the BIOS then

Pandya

The cmos battry failure ans time not set logs might be due to removing and reinstalling motherboard cell in pasts.

@Burgi no, when I face that situation, I can't even see the bios. (nothing displayed on monitor).

Burgi

ah

have you swapped out to a different PSU?

Pandya

I could take that screenshot becuse presently my pc was just working

Journeyman Geek

Pandya

and surprisingly when I pressed exit from bios, I again faced that situation, Now, I've to wait sometimes to have a working pc! Haha

@Burgi no, I haven't replaced smps or something related.

Burgi

3:20 PM

it sounds like a failing PSU

Pandya

Oh. Ok

Burgi

this might sound weird but do you have a PC speaker attached to your motherboard?

Pandya

No

Burgi

i mean one of those little piezo-electric beeper things

Pandya

well, yes, I sometimes hear the sound when thermal problem. But I normally don't hear one beep that other pcs usually makes on startup

Burgi

3:24 PM

ok, just checking

Pandya

I just checked with removing the RAM at all and I heard 3 beeps

so, Yes, beeper are attached

Burgi

ok good :)

its probably a PSU issue then

what wattage is your current one?

Pandya

Ah. I currently can't check; not displaying anything.

Leaving now...

Bye

Thanks for giving your time and suggestions @Burgi

bwDraco

3:52 PM

theregister.co.uk/2018/01/14/…

lkml.org server was shut down due to power failure and was stuck waiting for a password, lol

djsmiley2k

0

Q: Is Windows silently uninstalling unused programs?

There are a quite a few programs I need to use only a few times a year. And regularly, when the time comes, the program I need is nowhere to be found and I have to reinstall it. At first , I assumed I just forgot to install the programs on this computer, but over time, the issue keeps reoccur...

windows-10

wait wait wait

is this really real?!

it explains something i saw at work with putty disappearing

That Brazilian Guy

So. We just found out all our main sites return X-Robots-Tag none on their headers. Because "security".

djsmiley2k

but I presumed that was my computer being stupid

That Brazilian Guy

!!doge secure, anonymous, invisible

ChatBot John Cavil

      wow
           much secure
                          such  anonymous
so  invisible

That Brazilian Guy

3:59 PM

> Yes, Windows 10 may remove any of your programs without asking you.

!!wat

!!no

yeah but no upvotes, i'm kinda skeptical

That Brazilian Guy

> It will only remove programs when updating to a new major version, but it will remove anything it wants starting with small programs and ending with major things like Intel Rapid Storage RAID drivers or USB drivers.

@djsmiley2k Yeah, [citations needed]

Burgi

4:09 PM

@Pandya no worries

Win10 nuked my startmenu at home the other day but all the apps are still there

djsmiley2k

4:24 PM

I've had that too

but putty was actually completely gone

Ave

@djsmiley2k putty on gentoo?

djsmiley2k

nah, windows 10 at work

Ave

smh

djsmiley2k

?

FML Cat

@Burgi respond with fire and fury!

djsmiley2k

4:30 PM

@Burgi you've not moaned about work for like 2 days! what's going on!!

FML Cat

@Pandya and yet you never learn.

@djsmiley2k he's got a sexy ass smoking hot blonde minion

djsmiley2k

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

the receptionist? XD

Burgi

@djsmiley2k it was the weekend?

djsmiley2k

pffft

they didn't call you or something?

also i've been ill, i feel like it's been months since i left the house XD

Burgi

nope

i was away for my GF's birthday

djsmiley2k

4:40 PM

ah nice

oh yeah, frozen in bakewell, now i remember!

Burgi

wtf is going on with my localhost recently?

djsmiley2k

wehrom?

Bob

bakewell sounds like the next intel microarchitecture

FML Cat

I may make myself homeless again in a month though

@Bob Nah that'll be Bakewell Lake

Since they've been dragging on the whole "Lake" series for a dozen generations now with indefinite delays for whatever comes next

Bob

@FMLCat oh yea the wells are done

FML Cat

4:58 PM

Wells have turned into ponds and then lakes, soon they'll be oceans!

djsmiley2k

ponds?

and then deserts, as the world dries out XD

Burgi

@FMLCat why?

ugh

i don't remember FF52 ever caching DNS before

djsmiley2k

hmm

pretty sure it has for awhile

there's a options page you can go into a clear it (same as chrome)

Burgi

brb

djsmiley2k

because why not have a browser actually just doing everything

That Brazilian Guy

5:03 PM

@FMLCat Rivers. Don't forget the rivers.

djsmiley2k

soon i can imagine browsers not even using dns natively anymore :/

springs?, streams? tributaries?

That Brazilian Guy

djsmiley2k

except for the price.

and likelyhood that 'any' password will work

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k I don't get the "password" part.

djsmiley2k

and ability to upgrade

and cost of adaptors which are needed because you only have a single usb c port

and...

allquixotic

5:14 PM

> everything

except:
- games
- productivity (e.g. Word)
- coding
- watching some video (e.g. iTunes)
- voice chat programs (e.g. Skype, Discord, Teamspeak)
- serious image/audio/video editing (e.g. Photoshop/GIMP, Cubase/Audacity, Vegas/Premiere)
- music subscription service listening (e.g. Spotify/Amazon Music/iTunes)
- programs supporting your hardware, like UPS info, GPU stats, etc.
- password managers, for improved security (e.g. Enpass, Lastpass, Keepass)
- backup software (Crashplan, Carbonite, etc.)

that's quite a lot of exceptions to the point that "everything" there is patently false, and not even close to true

and quite a few of those things aren't portable and may only be available on one platform

djsmiley2k

> and quite a few of those things aren't portable and may only be available on one platform

pl

allquixotic

hell, some things that can be done on the web (like listening to music) are simply better on the desktop because you have more customization of the behavior of input (keyboard/mouse) and usually lower screen latency / higher FPS for smoother animations and such

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic Nah, everything is going to either run in the browser, or as an app. Didn't you get the memo?

allquixotic

and games are horribly inefficient or require some bastardized plugin to run effectively on the web

djsmiley2k

yeah games

but music??

bwDraco

5:19 PM

tomshardware.com/news/…

djsmiley2k

i listen on youtube lols

bwDraco

MLC NAND is dead, long live MLC NAND!

allquixotic

@djsmiley2k Spotify has a better selection, better playlist management, and doesn't waste bandwidth and resources allocating a space for video when you're just listening to music... I listen to stuff on youtube but only if it happens not to be on Spotify, which is pretty rare

its recommendations are also much better IMO

youtube recommends "popular" music whereas Spotify recommends music I would actually like

bwDraco

(my desktop has a high-end 3D MLC NAND SSD, but these drives are becoming very hard to find and very, very expensive)

djsmiley2k

its also paid and i have weird tastes that it didnt fill, and its idea of related artists was terrible - granted, i tried it like 10 years ago

allquixotic

5:23 PM

@bwDraco autoplaying video? ads that my browser blocked that take up 3/4 of a page? lovely

djsmiley2k

@allquixotic youtube reccomds viking rock to me

allquixotic

but on point of the article, wake me up when they break the 2 TB barrier; I could care less about performance as long as it's faster than HDDs... I want capacity

bwDraco

@allquixotic As much as I hate this... the news media industry is dying. Paywalls will soon be the only economically viable option.

allquixotic

I'd take an SSD that's "only" 5x-10x faster than an HDD (in terms of IOPS) but has 8 TB capacity, over an SSD that's ridiculously faster than I'd ever need but only goes up to 512 GB

djsmiley2k

News just in, most people don't want news.

bwDraco

5:24 PM

@allquixotic Well, TLC has vastly improved over the last few years.

Look at the SanDisk Ultra 3D.

djsmiley2k

hmmmmm

bwDraco

@allquixotic Just how much storage do you need? I rarely have more than 1 TB of data in online storage.

djsmiley2k

I have 6Tb in my server

however online I have 100Gb backups

bwDraco

Most of my data is stored in "nearline" storage.

("online" as in "connected and immediately accessible")

djsmiley2k

the change to my upload speed has made a huge improvement to my backking up \o/

tho that reminds me of a error throw up this morning on logrotation

bwDraco

5:32 PM

newegg.com/Product/…

You can still find MLC NAND... but it's now mostly limited to the far high end, just below Optane.

In brick-and-mortar stores, MLC NAND SSDs are practically nonexistent.

Everything I could find in the SSD shelves the last time I went to Best Buy is TLC, though some are better than others, like the SanDisk Ultra 3D.

I think Samsung is the only company making high-performance 3D MLC NAND for consumer SSDs...

Burgi

hmm...

djsmiley2k

test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons

Burgi

ping isn't returning the local URL

djsmiley2k

19

Q: Russian scientist injects himself 3.5 million-year-old bacteria, says he is now stronger and hasn't gotten ill in 2 years

I have found several articles regarding a Russian scientist, Anatoli Brouchkov: Anatoli Brouchkov is a soft-spoken guy with silver hair, and when he lets out a reserved chuckle, his eyes light up like he was belly laughing. If you met him on the street, you'd never guess that he once injecte...

immune-system

RASPUTIN - Vladimir Putin - Love The Way You Move (Funk Overload) @slocband

►

must click to understand

rahuldottech

6:43 PM

@djsmiley2k I LOVE THIS

I'M ACTUALLY GONNA BE DANCING ON IT AT AN EVENT SOON

djsmiley2k

6:55 PM

=)

yis awesome

FML Cat

7:05 PM

@allquixotic quite a few of those things can/are done through the browser by many people tho

except:
- games
More games are played via things like Facebook than locally now!
- productivity (e.g. Word)
Office Online/Google Docs
- coding
VS Online 🤣
- watching some video (e.g. iTunes)
More video is streamed than downloaded now (and iTunes is available on Windows and OSX)
- voice chat programs (e.g. Skype, Discord, Teamspeak)
Lots of those can be done through a browser
- serious image/audio/video editing (e.g. Photoshop/GIMP, Cubase/Audacity, Vegas/Premiere)
Photoshop Online (it sucks but hey its free)

@allquixotic agar.io is Web only, and sucks as an app on Android.

WebGL is pretty damn capable these days

@allquixotic amazon.co.uk/Samsung-inch-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B01ECEM7S2

Like that?

Or that gizmodo.com/…

I'm kinda still wanting a larger NVME SSD but while things have come a long way since Samsung were the only game in town for anything over 1TB they've still not come far enough

Canadian Luke

7:25 PM

$2k for that drive in CAD!

That's expensive but also sexy! Other than the speed, compared to the 9x0 series

FML Cat

Yeah over £1000 here. But then compared to four 1TB drives it's not overpriced

Canadian Luke

7:38 PM

True...

I got a file server with 4x 2TB REDs in it... I may demote that to a backup server and get a few SSDs on a faster board... Hmm...

allquixotic

@FMLCat There's a performance overhead though (varies depending on how the engine was coded) and that's compared to OpenGL, which compared to Vulkan/DX12 is pretty inefficient and can't create as complicated of a scene due to the fairly low limit on the number of draw calls

now, WebVulkan would be cool to see some benchmarks on

Michael Frank

8:05 PM

@FMLCat Gaming through a browser?! rainway.io

djsmiley2k

8:15 PM

@MichaelFrank lul

it's the new improved phantom console!

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