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12:00 AM
@ThatREDACTEDGuy that is a certain way to be lacerated
 
@JourneymanGeek Doesn't matter, had cat
 
12:40 AM
@JourneymanGeek found random cat on the street. Picked it up and hugged it.
 
Wife's friend found a random cat on the street. Picked it up and adopted it two days ago.
Spent $1500 on vet and cat stuff.
My wife visited the cat today. My "no we can't ever have a cat I'm allergic" wife.
 
Does not appear to be trying to lacerate me
@ThatREDACTEDGuy :O
 
@NotDog Appear to be eating pistacchios
 
12:57 AM
Yay, been in a room for ten minuets and got two stars already :D
 
1:16 AM
@ThatREDACTEDGuy Did not notice the pistachios tbh
 
1:31 AM
its not being hugged. And will likely murder you in your sleep.
@ThatREDACTEDGuy maybe she's trying to build up an immunity
.... two people told me we suddenly needed passwords on one or all the systems in the other block to change the volume.
speaker on one pc was plugged into the wrong port ._.
 
1:54 AM
@JourneymanGeek not from 3 miles away
 
2:28 AM
@NotDog Hey man, I'm dipping my toe into the Ethereum scene now too
I'm capping out with CUDA at around 20-21 MH/s on both a laptop GTX 1060 and a desktop GTX 1080, which I find odd
I have them both connected to my server's geth instance with SSH and port forwarding, so the server bears the burden of all the P2P syncing with the blockchain, and the geth JSON-RPC format is very lightweight so the bandwidth cost on my local boxes is almost zero
I'm just a little confused why the 1080 can't give me more, or whether CUDA is lagging behind OpenCL... Windows 10 anniversary and latest game-ready Nvidia drivers on both boxes
 
3:16 AM
It's about f---ing time home networking got an upgrade!
Jun 5 at 20:25, by bwDraco
When you have wireless networking protocols that can operate faster than a typical wired connection, you have a problem.
Jun 5 at 20:31, by bwDraco
Gigabit Ethernet is quite literally bottlenecking 802.11ad.
 
Bob
3:51 AM
meh.
 
@bwDraco that's a big can
in practise it rarely doess.
 
Bob
Maybe if you're literally sitting on top of the AP
but then your body would block the signals
> Sitting a couple of metres away from the router
10m for most of a house? bah
and here I am running 20m cables...
 
4:14 AM
> As well as 802.11ad, it packs in six gigabit Ethernet ports with dual-gigabit link aggregation, a quad-core 1.7GHz processor (unspecified, but likely ARM-based), two USB 3.0 ports for sharing printers and files, and it'll be the first router to have in-built Plex server support.
I wish good luck to them at compiling plex server for ARM.
It's a pain.
 
@allquixotic something to do with GDDR5X
Basically the 1080 is sub-optimal
Mining seems to be very sensitive to memory synchronisation though in exactly what way I haven't figured out
By synchronisation I mean timing
 
@Avery The processor is an Annapurna Labs Alpine AL-514.
 
Eww.... server is only downloading at 1.3MB/s D:
I might have to rethink running it through the powerline.
 
For example reducing the core clockspeeds of my GTX 1070 by 40% makes zero difference to the mining hash rate or power consumption, but increasing the memory speed by 8% increases hash rate by 20% without any change in power consumption either.
 
@bwDraco and I assume that's armv8?
 
4:26 AM
@Avery No, ARMv7-A. Cortex-A15.
 
@NotDog most people mine with amd cards though
@bwDraco aha, I see
 
@Avery and?
"Most people" don't mine at all. Those that do either use whatever hardware they have lying around already (Nvidia) or are professionals that specifically buy tons of cards purely for mining (AMD)
 
Bob
@NotDog s/cards/ASICs/
 
@NotDog by people I mean miners
 
@Bob ethereum is designed to be ASIC resistant
 
Bob
4:34 AM
@NotDog oh, you're talking ethereum
sorry, must've missed that
 
@Avery I'd still argue most people mine with Nvidia cards. A few people mine professionally with arrays of hundreds or thousands of cards but those most certainly aren't most miners.
GTX 1080 aside Nvidia cards this generation aren't that bad at mining.
If you're buying a new card for mining then AMD still provides more performance per dollar cost but Nvidia still holds something like 80% market share of the existing market
@allquixotic I've tested CUDA vs OpenCL on both Windows and Linux and there's basically zero difference. There's maybe a 5% advantage on Linux overall but that applies equally to both
 
Can someone who's familiar with the Oculus Rift take a look at this:
Can I use head turning to control the mouse in Oculus Rift's Virtual Desktop app?

There are two Oculus Rift apps I know of that allow you to use your PC in VR: [BigScreen](https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/1018613041536358/) which is free, and [Virtual Desktop](https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/911715622255585/!! ) which is $12. Now Virtual Desktop has some advantages over BigScreen that may justify the price difference, but it seems to have one disadvantage. In Virtual Desktop, you move the mouse around using either the arrow keys of the Oculus Remote or the joystick of the
I would post this question on the site, except the system won't let me at the moment.
 
0_0
why not?
 
4:54 AM
@NotDog O_O
@NotDog I wonder how much memory frequency headroom my 1080 FE has
currently geth on my server is taking an age to sync to the blockchain >_<
 
It says "You've asked 3 questions recently, some of which have not been received very well by the community. Everyone learns at their own pace, and it’s okay to make some mistakes. However, the reception your questions have received thus far might ultimately block your account from asking questions entirely.

It's been 0 days since you asked your last question. We ask that you wait 1 days before asking again. Use this time to revisit your previous questions, editing to address any issues that folks have pointed out in comments."
 
can't do any mining while it's doing that I think
 
5:37 AM
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anyone knows how to restart a raspi from ssh?
huh
sudoing worked, even though autocomplete said that it failed.
 
Good night.
 
6:08 AM
@Avery for me it's echo "1" > /sys/class/gpio/gpio4/value (I have a watchdog that forces open a relay on the power rail with that pin.)
 
huh, nice
but wouldn't that cause data loss?
 
@Avery this one is static, and loads to ram.
though the watchdog is here mostly to reboot it in case it hangs up.
the watchdog is just a couple of transistors, diodes, capacitors and resistors, linked to a normally closed relay.
and pin 4 is simply linked to a transistor that powers the relay.
 
Bob
6:26 AM
I've thought about grabbing an old/cheap ATX PSU and using it for an rpi
 
why is windows 10 still using assets from windows vista agh
 
Bob
@Avery because that's not windows 10
 
it is
 
Bob
also, lol, I was on that screen last night
anyway. that's winpe
not win10
 
winpe?
 
Bob
6:30 AM
Windows Preinstallation Environment (also known as Windows PE and WinPE) is a lightweight version of Windows used for the deployment of PCs, workstations, and servers, or troubleshooting an operating system while it is offline. It is intended to replace MS-DOS boot disks and can be booted via USB flash drive, PXE, iPXE, CD-ROM, or hard disk. Traditionally used by large corporations and OEMs (to preinstall Windows client operating systems on PCs during manufacturing), it is now widely available free of charge via Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK). == Overview == WinPE was originally intended...
 
oh, that.
 
Bob
hm, technically winpe 10 since they synced the version numbers
 
Well you got what I mean.
> why is winpe using same assets since windows vista?
 
Bob
@Avery eh, my answer remains the same... it doesn't use win10 style because it isn't actually win10
 
happy?
 
Bob
6:31 AM
updating the style (and possibly bringing in a new ui layer?) would be a pain and isn't really necessary
 
at least update the checkmark to be metro ugh
shouldn't be that hard
 
Bob
you see that screen for maybe an hour total, and most of that is sitting there waiting for it to install
@Avery there's two ways about it. bring in the unified UI libraries, which is very, very complex, or hack something that looks similar, which is somewhat fragile and annoying to maintain
 
Bob
or... just don't bother
They chose to not bother
and, hey, if that minimises weird bugs... I'm all for it
 
that's a better question :p
 
Bob
6:32 AM
the new recovery environment is annoying enough
if it makes you happy, the new (CU) post-install pre-login setup is all shiny and new
 
I know
in fact [REDACTED FOR NDA WITH MSFT]
 
Bob
root@amaterasu:~# dd conv=sparse if=/dev/zvol/tank/kvm/disks/suseri-temp of=/dev/zvol/tank/kvm/disks/suseri bs=1M status=progress
738197504 bytes (738 MB, 704 MiB) copied, 22.0164 s, 33.5 MB/s
it's gonna drop ot about 15 MB/s soon :\
 
7:01 AM
@Bob DDDD Drop the MB! Wub Wub Wub WIiiiir
 
 
Bob
#badstats
 
CORTANA IS IN WINDOWS 10's 1711 OOBE
ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT
IT SPEAKS
WINDOWS XP HAD SONGS
WINDOWS 10 HAS A BOT
 
Bob
@Avery you're in OOBE now, not the installer :P
 
@Avery does it react to "shut up" or just say "hu-hum, language."?
 
7:08 AM
I have my microphone disabled.
Hard disabled.
 
@Avery mine is hard disabled too, I kinda dropped honey on it, had to put it down.
 
7:29 AM
hi
 
hey, rahul
 
@Avery WinPE is frigging amazing!
@satibel 'yo!
 
@Rahul2001 hm?
 
@Avery I've used it extensively for recovery and malware removal.
It's basically like a live version of Windows
 
@Rahul2001 I use linux for malware removal
 
interesting
 
user226528
7:51 AM
15 minutes? The camera bobs so much, I am not sure I can watch 1 minute of it.
 
user226528
A heads-up for you guys: "Chat room" in French is not "Salle de chat".
 
morning
 
@FleetCommand n'est il pas?
 
user226528
@satibel Google Translate says it is, but it means "cat room".
 
user226528
"Chat room" is "Salle de tchat", apparently.
 
7:58 AM
@FleetCommand I can definitely tell you we often write "chat" without the t, but pronounce it with a "t" (like the English pronunciation).
 
its almost like a foreign language
 
user226528
@satibel Don't you call it "salon de discussion" or "clavardoir"?
 
@FleetCommand we can, though, it is often just abbreviated to "salon".
the official name is "eblabla" for chat.
 
helo boiz n gurlz
 
of course, nobody except academicians use that.
tchatche is an alternative, but not used either.
@Rahul2001 hey jung boi
 
8:06 AM
@FleetCommand i call it French English, to go with Brazilian Spanish
 
@Burgi Franglais or Frenglish
or Frangiche
 
[=][-][+][-][=]
!~*
 
user226528
@satibel In what kind of French? Canadian? or France's?
 
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user226528
Make that your wallpaper. :)
 
8:13 AM
@FleetCommand which words are you talking about?
 
@satibel i like Frenglish :)
 
user226528
Never mind. The French guy who laughed at me for saying "cat room" is gone and I behaved admirably, considering how unsocial I am. All in all, it is he who lost anything in the way of reputation.
 
{
    {
        {
          //trying out spaces instead of tabs
        }
    }
}
 
@FleetCommand eh, he's probably from 15-18 (a chat somewhat akin to a dumber /b/)
 
Stop smurfin' around, you
 
8:26 AM
@Rahul2001 eew, 4 spaces.
 
@satibel whazrongwiddat?
 
@Rahul2001 2 spaces master race :p
 
@satibel ew no
I'll just go back to tabs
 
elastic tabs ftw.
 
Whoa... What does that?
 
8:39 AM
@MichaelFrank elastic tabstops
basically, it groups tabstops together, so you just use one tab.
 
hm, one of my systems is being an annoying pain in the rear.
its new, and it keeps getting stuck in strange places while rebooting
 
@JourneymanGeek Like under the couch or behind the TV?
 
8:55 AM
@MichaelFrank yes
 
Aaaand I can't log into O365 Admin Center yet again
Closing in on 30 minutes in the phone support queue
 
Cats
 
@NotDog chat
@JourneymanGeek I imagine a laptop teleporting each time you reboot it.
 
9:20 AM
Got it behaving.... Hooooome
 
@JourneymanGeek with a few hacks ?
 
Naw just let it throw a tantrum.
 
9:37 AM
@Rahul2001 NO *
*ʸᵒᵘ ʰᵃᵛᵉⁿ'ᵗ ᵃˢᵏᵉᵈ ᶠᵒʳ ʷʰᵃᵗ
 
@satibel what the hell is this WebDAV thingy
I mean, I know what it is
How do I make it work on non-IIS windows?
 
@Rahul2001 use a webDAV server.
 
@satibel man
I'm having too much trouble getting letsencrypt to work
ACME Server Returned: Unexpected error - Response: {
  "type": "urn:acme:error:malformed",
  "detail": "Error creating new authz :: Invalid character in DNS name",
  "status": 400
}
@Bob Do you know what this is? ^
 
@Rahul2001 I'd say you have an Invalid character in DNS name
 
@satibel I don't
"bleh.ml"
what's invalid in that?
 
Bob
9:51 AM
@Rahul2001 context
 
@Bob error spewed by the win-simple thing
sor threw an exception: ObjectDisposedException", IsFromCache=False}, Message="T
he remote server returned an error: (400) Bad Request.", Data=[], InnerException
=null, TargetSite=System.Net.WebResponse GetResponse(), StackTrace="   at System
.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse()
   at ACMESharp.AcmeClient.RequestHttpPost(Uri uri, Object message)", HelpLink=n
ull, Source="System", HResult=-2146233079}, TargetSite=ACMESharp.AuthorizationSt
ate AuthorizeIdentifier(System.String), StackTrace="   at ACMESharp.AcmeClient.A
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 command?
 
@Bob I just ran letsencrypt.exe, and followed through with the instructions for FTP
When is asks for hostname, do I put in bleh.ml or http://bleh.ml or https://bleh.ml?
All three give me errors
 
@satibel I have neither
 
9:55 AM
which server do you use then?
 
I think he's using Abyss
 
@Rahul2001 are you still there?
 
10:13 AM
My inability to log into O365 is caused by technical difficulties on MS side
 
@satibel yeah sorry
 
They probably got crypted :P
 
@MichaelFrank @satibel yep, abyss
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 hostname, not URL
 
10:14 AM
@Bob so that should be just bleh.ml, right?
still gives an error
 
@Rahul2001 Which one?
 
@OliverSalzburg one sec
huh, this is weird
it just stopped responding
 
@OliverSalzburg "hey, could you execute this totally not suspicious file named popcorn time"?
 
Bob
@satibel ok, send it over
 
Okay, it just shut itself without saying anything
 
Bob
10:27 AM
@Rahul2001 is this an important server?
 
@Bob uh, kinda?
why?
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 was wondering if you could give me ftp access to try :P
 
@Bob sure
I don't have anything on the server yet
 
Bob
I'll be afk for about an hour though
so... bbl
 
11:27 AM
Holy Moley setting custom ringtones on an iPhone is difficult.
 
@Bob Ping me when you're back
 
Bob
11:42 AM
@Rahul2001 ping
 
@Bob one sec
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 you can send details on telegram if you don't want to paste a password here
or I could set up a ftp server... hm.
(I usually don't like ftp)
 
@Bob yeah, telegram
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 nvm I'll set up my own
actually wait
 
@Bob just check telegram ;p
 
Bob
11:45 AM
@Rahul2001 don't bother
you're hosting this locally on Windows right?
 
@Bob yeah, gave you ssh & ftp
 
firewall.
 
@Avery hm?
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 worksforme
don't use ftp
 
IIRC you're trying to get letsencrypt running
 
Bob
11:46 AM
use manual
use manual auth and it'll ask you for yoru webroot
 
use sftp
 
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dang
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 ^
it accepted the domain name fine
are you sure you didn't type any other funny characters?
 
@Bob yeah
 
Bob
11:48 AM
@Rahul2001 ^ try doing what I did above
 
but I was trying ftp
@Bob sure
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 if it's on the local server, don't bother with ftp
 
@Bob wait
it worked!
 
Bob
btw, after it's done you should point your webserver at those certificates, using the same path because that's where the auto-renew will put them
don't copy the certificates out
 
@Bob okay, cool
 
Bob
11:50 AM
don't move the letsencrypt exe after it's generated because the autorenew uses that path too
if yout webserver can't read them (because user permissions) either fix permissions or tell LE to dump them in a different path
you can use --certoutpath to tell it where to put them
(they focus on IIS examples but it's still a decent description of how it works)
 
@Bob where do I find the private key? Is it saved to a file?
 
@NotDog Man, how long does this blockchain syncing fucking take? It's been running on my OVH box with symmetrical GbE for well over 12 hours and only this far:
> > eth.syncing
{
currentBlock: 2372157,
highestBlock: 3951699,
knownStates: 0,
pulledStates: 0,
startingBlock: 0
}
and I can't get a single mining reward until it's done
 
ah, the .pfx?
wait wat
 
it's up to 54GB of data, too, which is hideous
 
12:17 PM
OH HELL YEAH
I GOT HTTPS
@Bob Thanks a ton
 
@Rahul2001 do you have ACT?
 
@jokerdino nope, why?
 
thinking of getting it.
 
12:32 PM
Has anyone here used cherokee?
Seems really cool
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 nw
@Rahul2001 oh, make sure the scheduled task exists, and try a renew run
otherwise you might randomly lose https in 90 days :P
 
@Bob will do :)
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 yea usually LE saves one private key file and one cert chain file
though I can't remember how the Windows one does it
@Rahul2001 I'd rather run standard than "really cool"
that said, I don't like apache, soooo... nginx it is :P
@Rahul2001 your next job (after checking renew): fix your ssl setup :P
first you need to fix your certificate chain
you're only sending the site certificate atm. you need to send the intermediate, otherwise it won't work for most people
 
@Bob Hm, I thought I was sending it too... Which file is the intermediate one?
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I've only ever used the Windows thing once, for a remote-desktop-gateway on IIS :P
one sec, lemme dig
@Rahul2001 use -chain.pem, I think
and use -key.pem for the key
@Rahul2001 does your webserver take pem?
 
12:44 PM
@Bob yep
 
Bob
cool, use those then
the pfx exists for those using Windows' certificate stores, like IIS
it's an all-in-one (private key, certificate, chain)
I'd recommend not using all-in-ones if only because IIRC some webservers are braindead and will happily send your private key too..?
 
My server software is stupid though
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 the other thing you'll probably want to fix:
> ECDH public server param reuse Yes
 
It will support either HTTPS or HTTP
@Bob huh
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 blog.qualys.com/ssllabs/2017/01/13/whats-new-ssl-labs-1-26-5 apparently it's just the webserver being dumb and there's not much you can do short of switching to a new webserver, assuming there's no config option for it community.qualys.com/thread/…
@Rahul2001 ...maybe you're supposed to run two separate copies? :S
@Rahul2001 oi, run nginx! :D
(on linux preferably)
 
12:48 PM
@Bob it's a limitation of the free version
 
Bob
weird.
 
Yeah, right now I have command prompt set up, asking HTTP users to visit via HTTPS
 
Bob
-_-
 
But this is why I'm thinking of shifting to cherokee
 
Bob
fixed your cert chain yet?
 
12:49 PM
@Rahul2001 make me
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 y no nginx :(
 
@Bob nope, it's acting up
@Bob huh. Maybe I'll give it a try after all ;p
Does it have a decent htaccess equivalent? ;p
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 nup. those configs go in the server conf files
 
@Bob huh, ok
 
Bob
it's a performance thing
recursively checking .htaccess all the way down the path is slow
lighttpd supports .htaccess if you really need it, and @JourneymanGeek uses it I think
 
12:51 PM
one file to rule them all
 
Bob
personally, short of supporting some dodgy apps, I've found I've not ever needed .htaccess
even then, most not-dodgy apps are getting smarter and supporting nginx :P
 
@Bob I use it sometimes to restrict access to certain directories, and for redirects
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 you can do that in nginx, you just do it in the main conf files
 
Huh, works for me
 
Bob
(which can be split into multiple files via includes, but shouldn't be scattered within the webroot)
 
12:52 PM
Also, clean URLs?
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 doable. I did it for my try-server :P but it depends what you're doing specifically...
I mean. Just about everything is doable. But some things are easy, some things are harder...
 
@Bob I think I'll set it up with apache for now, then learn nginx and shift later
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 :(
 
@Bob -_-
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 lol, offer for a server is still open if you feel like playing around
 
12:54 PM
@Bob I know, I'll be sure to ask if I ever need it :D
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 heh, I'm trying to convince you to take it :P
 
what kind of server?
 
Bob
@jokerdino lxd container of dubious durability
well, if you need a more stable one, I can do that too
 
how much is it?
 
Bob
but for messing around the slightly questionable ones are easier :P
 
12:57 PM
I have wanted to have a server for myself haha
 
Bob
@jokerdino hm? if you want a full one of your own... you can get a dodgy-ish one for $10/year
these are 3EUR/month
if you just want one to experiment on, I can give you one for free, but it's not really a server as in hosting stuff long-term :P
 
thought I could get a server for my crappy blog and do some other things on it as well.
like using the server as a sync for taskwarrior or something.
 
Bob
for more long-term stuff, I can do that too but that's waiting on a different dedi of mine being fully updated/installed properly
 
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