Root Access

hmm serverfault.com/questions/440405/… better fit for us?

@Bob pseudocode: IF [ cell data contains a newline or tab character ]; THEN [ add a quotation mark at the start and end of the cell value and add an extra quotation mark next to each quotation mark already in the cell value, when copying the data to the clipboard ].

We experimentally determined it to be not only newlines but tabs, too.

His input data didn't even have any carriage returns or newlines (in any combination).

Tom Wijsman

12:46 AM

Hmmz... zdnet.com/ubuntu-moves-some-linux-development-inside-7000006069

@TomWijsman: they're becoming apple ;p

before you know it, they will be own-branding hardware and sueing people

(I keed i keed)

@allquixotic ...Excel.

1:04 AM

@Bob Bob! Don't cuss in here! Naughty!

@Bob flags it

;p

(actually no, I feel the flag system on chat is broken anyhow)

1:59 AM

arstechnica.com/business/2012/10/…

They DO realise if someone's unhappy with a free course, they can probably get their money back, right?

@JourneymanGeek Not true. My time is worth money (my employer proves that) so time I spent on the course should be paid back to me on an hourly basis for what I'm worth :D

lol

pomodorotechnique.com

2:23 AM

Good morning guys :)

@avirk virk

@allquixotic first time ever some one call my short name :P

it's not hard to imagine the 'a' out

heheheehehehehhehehhehehehhehehheehhehhehehehehhe i was playing around with google translate and discovered the translation for "behold the pancakes" in Spanish :D

i was conjugating the plural familiar imperative forms of verbs with "the pancakes" on the end

@allquixotic great

o0

2:27 AM

and i thought it'd be "see", but no... behold!

@allquixoticso How Google pronounce my name?

:P

idk

in Spanish it'd be "ah VEER k"

in English it'd be "uh VER kh"

@allquixotic hahahahahahaha

@allquixotic lol they think "a" is silent :P

not silent, just kind of a cross of "A" (like the letter sounds) and "E"

many words that start with "a" followed by a consonant, we say "uh" for the "a" because we're too lazy to say "A" like "eigh"

it takes more mouth opening to say "eigh" than "uh"

@allquixotic Oo

thats why my mouth is too big now :P

@allquixotic do you have android device/

2:33 AM

yes, two

ICS and Jelly Bean

Are they rooted/

one is

I want to know is it possible to increase the default ringtone volume after rooting/

what do you mean the "default"?

when does this default get set?

@allquixotic hard to define for me but I'll try

as my phone rings on full volume say set on 7 but its very low volume when I'm in traffic and the phone is my pocket and no vibration to save battery.

2:37 AM

are you trying to increase the volume past the maximum that's normally allowed?

@allquixotic yeah!

that's not really possible, since the maximum volume is usually determined by the hardware and calibrated in the device as the value "0 dB" which means that there is no "attenuation" (lower volumes have a negative dB value to indicate that the signal is attenuated, i.e. softer)

what you can do is create a sound file (or download one) that has higher amplitude, up to the maximum, since many ringtones don't max out the amplitude all the time

look up terms like "really loud sound file" or something

or "siren"

@allquixotic can you find one for me?

'this one goes up to 11'

how would turning off vibration save battery?

You arn't using it unless you get a call

vibration uses extremely little battery, even if it's constantly on :P

2:42 AM

@JourneymanGeek that's in the phone guide :P

it's not how it sounds

lol

I REALLY want a good clean clip of a steam whistle

=-0987654321`qwertyuiop[]\ASDFGHJKL;'ZXCVBNM,./

@allquixotic I read somewhere command to increase the 'db'

you can't increase the dB, past 0 dB, without hacking the DAC, but that can break the speakers

2:45 AM

@allquixotic Oo

@allquixotic Depends on the phone. I remember there was some EU regulation on the max volume, so Nokia N8 firmware for European countries had a lower cap on the max volume than other firmware flashed to the same phone.

pocket-lint.com/news/27499/eu-imposes-music-player-volume-limit

3:46 AM

hmm

anyone want a copy of fallout from good ol games?

4:31 AM

Does anyone use Revo Uninstaller? Do you like it? How does it work?

4:56 AM

@JourneymanGeek hey, i have retag privileges :)

@jokerdino: I know ;p

hmm WRT the windows 8 contest - is the criteria one of the two conditions listed or both?

@Ricket I've used it before... don't install/uninstall much, so not much use for it.

From what I understand, there's two main modes of uninstallation - 'forced' and 'tracked' (pro version only)

In addition to the uninstaller that comes with the program, the 'forced' mode looks for any references in the registry (and possibly some other folders?) by product/company name from the uninstaller metadata and removes them (potentially dangerous, but a backup is made just in case)

Some people have had issues where, e.g., they remove 'Microsoft' products such as Visual Studio and shared registry keys critical to other MS products like Office were also removed

Ah okay... That doesn't sound all too bad of an idea. I don't think it'll make much of a difference to me though so I'll not use it

yeah I remember that with old versions of windows, setup programs used to ask about removing shared files

@JourneymanGeek and sorry. your answer went to CW mode o.O

Tracked mode looks for any changes made during installation and logs them, then you can (selectively) undo them.

5:05 AM

o0

which answer?

oh, on the keyboards?

the one i edited. yeah, the keyboards one.

Tracked mode is generally safer than forced mode, but isn't on the free version - and it can take a very long time to load the log if it's a big package, such as an Adobe Creative Suite

Its ok, its an old question and one that I edited extensively while it was closed

so no biggie

okay :)

@Ricket The problem with Revo 'forced' mode it it searches for text strings - which could accidentally remove more than you want, or miss what should be removed. Not too reliable for bigger software packages.

The uninstaller that comes with the program should know exactly what is safe to remove (except shared libraries, since other programs may also be using them)

5:08 AM

If I am running with a dedicated graphics card, should I uninstall the drivers for the embedded graphics card?

Revo is sometimes helpful with crappy uninstallers that miss things, though.

@njallam Why would you do that? I can't see any good coming of it

I mean, nothing bad would probably happen either, but I don't think the driver is making an impact on the dedicated card driver or something if that's your thought

@Ricket The dedicated card is NVIDIA and the internal one is AMD. I figured it would just be more useless Windows services running for a device I'm not using.

Well if you installed extra programs with them then sure... But I'd keep the driver itself installed probably

Or just disable the services and autorun entries and call it a day

hmm, OK

5:15 AM

Just my opinion though! :)

Eh, I just spent an hour cleaning (i.e. annihilating) the four or five different versions of the Nvidia drivers I had installed...