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12:00 AM
well later fellas...
 
@KronoS ciao
Maybe I should look at Ruby
 
@RandolphPotter: Ruby, for an IRC bot?
 
12:16 AM
@MarkSzymanski No, just generally. I'm a C# developer, but it helps to see what's out there
 
ah.
Ruby is a very nice language.
The one I wrote About in.
 
I just had a quick look through the documentation, and I can see why people like it.
 
Yeah.
 
12:50 AM
Diamonds have been given to the moderators, watch out!
 
@TomWij LOL
 
1:04 AM
> There are three things extremely hard: steel, a diamond, and to know one's self.
> ~ Benjamin Franklin
> Diamonds are a girl's best friend and a man's worst enemy!
> ~ Unknown
> A diamond is a chunk of coal that is made good under pressure.
> ~ Henry Kissinger
Goes back to studying, sigh, I wish it was weekend...
 
Thanks for the chuckle and deep philosophical thoughts, @TomWij
 
1:45 AM
Braid is like the most awesome game. Ever.
 
 
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2:52 AM
@MarkSzymanski: Still need to continue my save game there, like those many other games...
I remember not far after the release I played that and I got towards the levels with a ghost.
 
3:05 AM
I'm a diamond mod now! :)
 
congrats @studiohack
 
thanks @KronoS :)
how's @Sathya taking it?
 
did you check out all my mod flags already?
don't know...
 
'gratz on the first diamond action @studiohack
 
feels out of the loop :(
 
3:17 AM
yes, I checked them out, there is one that I'm unsure of, @KronoS
 
And congratulations to @studiohack & @DMA57361 !
 
hey you're a mod now... you make the choice... I just bring em to your attention
 
done anything as diamond @Sathya?
 
Nopes just woke up about 10 mins ago @studiohack
 
wow, can't believe we made it @Sathya, @DMA57361!
 
3:19 AM
@studiohack :)
really do wish @nhinkle could've made it.
 
:) I'm about to log off, @Sathya, so you'll have the run of the place :P
agreed @Sathya @nhinkle
 
@studiohack haha, I'll have a look first :)
 
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Q: Don't you think that it's time for some Stack Exchange shirts?

KronoSThis is for you Jeff. We're asking and begging and pleading (and maybe even willing to pay) for some shirts!!!! We know you've got to have some hiding under your bed. Don't you think it's time to share with those that deserve it? Perhaps to the newly elected mods, or maybe even all those th...

@Sathya I've started a revolution
 
@KronoS SO I noticed
you have my vote for that
 
:) good... as a mod you may want to convert that to CW... as I've already collected quite a bit of rep for this "Fun" request...
I'll leave that up to you or Jeff
 
3:24 AM
I don't have DIamond on Meta.SO @KronoS
 
@Sathya thanks @Sathya and @studiohack. I'm quite happy that you guys were elected though, and think you'll be great. I'm happy for @dma, too - I voted for all three of you guys. :)
 
you should... all mod from other sites should as well
 
@KronoS Nope, that has been changed
 
@KronoS there's been discussion of late that meta.so has "too many mods"
 
Ah... well I missed that then
 
3:25 AM
and @KronoS, I sure hope jeff sees and approves your idea. I WANT A SHIRT!!
 
I know!!!!
 
@nhinkle o_0 they should
 
nvm. on the elections page it was only showing it on yours, but i looked on their profiles and it's right now
 
might be a caching thing @nhinkle
 
but not the about page yet either
 
3:27 AM
so, now all you fresh mods need to help me get to 10k so I can help you out more!
 
Same here...
 
You know how we like to joke about being @ivoflipse's slaves and doing his bidding, @KronoS?
 
right, we pledge to give atleast 40 rep to @nhinkle everday so that he can reach 10k :P
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@nhinkle ya... time for a revolt? ;)
oh BTW @Sathya would you mind doing a brief intro for the blog?
 
@KronoS I'm starting to rethink that paradigm. Are you sure Ivo isn't our slave? We're always the ones flagging things, making him edit tag wikis for us, etc.
So in reality, the new crop of moderators means 3 more people to do our bidding, rather than the other way around. I'm excited!! :D
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3:34 AM
@nhinkle I know it's kinda nice... I just flag it and move on... don't really have to make the major decision...
He He I like the way you think @nhinkle
 
:D
 
@KronoS where at ?
 
I haven't put it together yet... just wondering if you're ok with it...
rushes to put together one right now
 
oh I'll be fine!
 
@Sathya I'm going to write up something on your post about the HP WMI issue soon. Just have been too busy today to get to it yet.
 
3:42 AM
@nhinkle take your time @nhinkle planning to put a bounty on it
 
@Sathya I've uploaded the post. Add whatever you like... @DMA57361 and @studiohack please do the same. I believe that you both have access to the blog. If not then I can grant that or you can email me your response to the email on my profile page...
Oh and @DMA57361 please answer why in the world you selected the numbers "57361" !!!!
 
@KronoS, any word from jeff yet regarding t-shirts? or is he mum so far?
 
will have a look later @KronoS
 
@Sathya no rush...
@nhinkle not yet... :( maybe I should edit to bring to front
 
oh i'm sure he'll see it eventually
though if you don't get any reply after a couple days, give it a bump i'd say
 
3:45 AM
well just did... there was an edit that I wanted to do anyways
 
@KronoS remove the you may make it CW.. I don't think it's required
 
done
 
yep, no harm in getting rep for a good question
 
suggested edits notification
 
oh nice!
 
3:51 AM
#66, btw
 
approved! ;)
goes back to reading up on SSD tech
 
*goes back to studying linear algebra and crying to self about how useless this textbook is*
 
linear algebra... ewww
 
4:08 AM
hmm, the place where "edit" link was placed has been bumped to the side due to the Mod link being available now. 5th time I ended up hitting link instead of edit ;/
 
@Sathya what shows up on the mod menu?
 
@Sathya ah, cool
 
@nhinkle yep.. it's like oooOo what-does-this-button-do phase for me :/
 
@Sathya careful you don't hit the self-destruct button by accident ;)
 
4:15 AM
@nhinkle haha ;) I'll be careful of that!
 
lol... you're making my mouth water @Sathya
 
@KronoS, do you want some new buttons to press?
 
yes... I'm a very much button pushing guy...
 
hehehe
 
4:18 AM
ah thanks @Sathya
 
ok, who took SU offline?
 
was it @studiohack's new diamond?
 
dangit @Sathya, I TOLD YOU not to press the self-destruct button!!!!
 
LOL
@Sathya you're fired
 
4:19 AM
:D
Heads up #stackoverflow users, we'll be offline for a bit tonight around 11PM EST for some back-end work, planned outage for a few items
 
I was just about to paste a link to the question from the person who couldn't understand why they got infected with a trojan but was downloading off rapidshare
now you'll just have to take my word for it
BTW congrats on your diamond, @Sathya
 
thanks, @RandolphPotter!
catchya'll later, off to work
 
see ya @Sathya
 
@Sathya bye!
 
feels like he's writing a school report on SSD's
 
4:24 AM
@KronoS You've been working on that for hours though
@KronoS Will it be so awesome that we'll just link to it from SU questions?
 
@RandolphPotter off and on... just finished doing research now I'm writing it up
lol... I don't think so... I'm not that amazing...
 
Oh come now
 
ok, i've really got to go do homework
see y'all later
 
l8r @nhinkle
 
@nhinkle cheers
 
 
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5:51 AM
good morning new mods (and those who are not)
 
6:11 AM
hello @IvoFlipse
 
hi @nhinkle, on your way to 10k I presume?
 
@IvoFlipse, yep. Haven't actually had a chance to do much yet today, as I've been busy studying for a math exam I have friday, but come this weekend, you can bet I'll be plugging away :)
 
good luck on the studying
I managed to get Eclipse running, but now I'm stuck on my interactive plots
 
well at least you've had some progress
 
very small progress though
 
6:14 AM
we learned about plotting in my matlab class today. i nearly died of boredom, as usual in that class
i swear i could teach myself everything we've done so far in half a day by reading out of the book
 
hehe, I can imagine
though the plotting you guys learn is quite awesome
with satellite stuff and nice 3D meshes right?
 
nope. this is a very basic intro course. 2D plots only, the sort of thing you could easily do in excel
i'm just a first-year student, so we haven't gotten to do anything particularly exciting yet
 
oh right, well you can work ahead ;)
 
> am trying to get ammunition to demand changing the bounty rules back so answer-accepting will also do bounty-awarding. Can I add you to my statistics as having lost 250 reps because you did accept but was reminded too late of the need to award?
 
a lot of my classmates have never written a line of code in their lives
 
6:16 AM
I don't agree with this.
 
@IvoFlipse, I could work ahead. or i could spend my time working on other computer things, which is what I usually do. I'm definitely going to try to learn some of the 3D stuff though, even though it's not covered in this course, because I think it's cool
 
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A: How to select the account on the login screen of Windows7 by start typing the name?

harrymcYou are looking to writing a specialized Credential Provider. I an not going to write one for you, not even for 5000 reps, but I can point you in the right direction. The article Create Custom Login Experiences With Credential Providers For Windows Vista explains the basics of Microsoft's move a...

 
@Sathya if you disagree, tell them "no", plain and simple
 
you should have a look at some of the GIS stuff on SO I reckon
 
@nhinkle it's under a comment right now, conversation with @Diago. If/When it comes to Meta, I'll speak up.
 
6:18 AM
@IvoFlipse I've checked out gis.stackexchange.com but so far haven't participated much because I'm not doing anything with it currently. i'll be more involved there probably when i start doing GIS again
@Sathya, misunderstood, I thought that was directed at you personally. Reading that convo now.
 
I meant more to experiment with reproducing some of the examples
 
there's a big huge +500 option next to each and every answer. How you can you miss that ?
 
@IvoFlipse, ah, yes. We also have the ArcGIS suite on our terminal server, so I get to play around with that, too
 
isn't his point that 50% of the bounty is thrown out when there's no uber answer?
 
@Sathya, who knows. It's a pretty isolated case though from what I can tell.
 
6:20 AM
or even at all
 
> akira: Don't worry. This is a rare opportunity to maybe put some doubts into Diago and the team.
not sure how to read that
 
@nhinkle same boat here. Perhaps he means that conversation should make the team realize the difficulty ?
 
oh wait, now I get it
akira forgot to click the assign bounty button
 
@IvoFlipse well his point is that accepting an answer should get him the bounty
@IvoFlipse yes.
 
well, this is a costly lesson they will all never forgot then :)
that's how we learn
by making mistakes we regret
 
6:23 AM
I suppose one possible way to make everyone happy would be this: on a question in which the asker has put up a bounty and the question is not yet answered, when they accept the answer, a box could pop up reminding them that accepting the answer does not automatically assign the bounty, and giving them a button to click if they would like to do so
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@nhinkle and you could always experiment with my dog paws ;P
 
@IvoFlipse, if you want to send me some data and some info on it sometime, I'll play around with it when I have spare time and i'm not busy on SU
do you use dropbox? you could make a shared folder with me
 
already have it :)
oi SO is down :(
 
so is SU it seems
laglaglag
SO's giving me the "down" message, SU isn't even loading
 
Jeff did announce it
 
6:27 AM
Yeah, but it was down when I left, which was over an hour ago....
And he said it would be "quick"
iirc
 
paw-analysis by Joe Kington
 
Error (404)
 
not uploaded yet I guess
 
lol
let me know when it is
 
in 2 mins according to dropbox
 
6:30 AM
who's Joe Kington?
 
the awesome dude who answered most of my questions
 
ah, mk
you're using python for the analysis?
 
yeah
2.6, so don't try 3.1, because numpy is/wasn't ported yet
 
I haven't really worked with it much before, but learning a new language is always fun. And maybe I can play around with the data in other programs, too
Fascinating and moving series of photos from Egypt:
 
7:01 AM
heh, check the closed by in this @nhinkle
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Q: Where does OS X save environment variables?

Mahdi Possible Duplicate: Setting JAVA_HOME environment variable When you type "echo $JAVA_HOME" in Mac, where does Mac look to find the value of JAVA_HOME? In other words where does Mac save environment variables?

 
O_O
LOL
I wish I could vote up... that
 
hehe :D
 
you just now wakin' up @Sathya?
 
LOLOL
that is indeed amusing
I think we need a new word
 
7:05 AM
indeed :p
 
"verily"
I'm going to say "verily" from now on.
 
We should get @rebeccachernoff to write a new userscript that makes the following changes:
 
we need to plot a histogram of most frequently used words in chat :D
 
"yep" -> "affirmative"
"indeed" -> "verily"
"yeah" -> "quite so"
@Sathya that would be nifty
is chat included in the monthly data dump?
 
7:08 AM
@nhinkle I.. don't think so
 
hm. guess you could just get the full transcript for this room
 
quite remarkable how many of us, use the same word over & over
 
indeed :D
it makes sense though. there are only so many affirmative statements used frequently in common english lexicon
 
@nhinkle :D $indeed_count = $indeed_count +1
 
I just checked: that's the first time the word "lexicon" had been used in SU chat history
 
7:09 AM
Well hello you guys.
 
hello @Troggy
I now seem to be outnumbered by mods
@Troggy, check out what @Sathya went and did:
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Q: Where does OS X save environment variables?

Mahdi Possible Duplicate: Setting JAVA_HOME environment variable When you type "echo $JAVA_HOME" in Mac, where does Mac look to find the value of JAVA_HOME? In other words where does Mac save environment variables?

 
hi @Troggy
 
@nhinkle It is a life of spam checks and bad posts.
and you stop answering questions so much.
 
this is even better :P @nhinkle
0
Q: hardware help building a server

yolucaHi, planning to build a server to run 2008 R2, its mainly for running a web server, ftp, data storage ... now the question is ... should i look for a intel, hp, rack server or should i build my own desktop atx with super fast hardwares ? I am only looking to spend about £800 all the intel ser...

 
I'm not complaining. Just noting :)
oh dear, what've you gone and broken now @Sathya
hahah
 
7:12 AM
@nhinkle :D
the transcript pulls data one day at a time
 
hmm
there's got to be some way
i suppose you could ask jeff for a full dump of this chat room, as a special request
 
there's no rss feed either
 
FINALLY
couldn't log into chat for some dumb reason
 
@Sathya Well, looks like your getting off to a great start of breaking things. ;)
 
@IvoFlipse Probably @Sathya's fault. He's been breaking everything lately :P
 
7:20 AM
I'm going to be laughing in silence @Troggy watching @Sathya use all his new toys
 
@Troggy haha :D
 
I hate it when I try out example code that magically leaves out parts to get it running :\
 
the colors indicate who starred them?
 
@IvoFlipse I am sure everyone will have questions. Be careful, that diamond brings a new light to your actions. You will mess up and everyone will notice.
 
no, i wasn't that detailed, and can't see who starred what anyhow
each chunk of color is one comment/message
so the size of the chunk corresponds to the number of stars
 
this question was deleted and posted as a comment by a 1 rep user - how's that ?
 
ah well, go accuse me of favoritism @nhinkle ;P
 
@Sathya It was a post converted into a comment
 
@Troggy ah ok
 
user30
7:23 AM
@Sathya hax.
 
@Sathya I just did that a few minutes ago.
 
@Troggy it wasn't listed in history, so was confused
 
@Sathya Yah, not everything has a clear history visible.
 
it's a new feature too, though so is the history itself
also the history skews towards tag edits, which explains Quacks massive contribution
 
@IvoFlipse @Sathya Are you talking about the mod or question history?
 
7:33 AM
I was yes
 
@Troggy Mod History
 
@IvoFlipse Yah, I am curious what that records and what doesn't because only about 25% of my actions ever get recorded there
 
well I wouldn't worry about it too much
it's skews to @diago and mine time zone :P
 
I like it to quickly see who has been on recently though.
 
actually in that regard @nhinkle would have been a nice intermediate between us and @random
I'm always annoyed to see there's flags
I read on MSU question and come back without refreshing
only to see @diago has already handled it :P
 
7:35 AM
Yah, you guys take care of most things before I get on normally.
 
surely our timezones don't overlap that much ;P
 
I also have limited access during employment hours.
It is the reason I can't chat often.
Network restrictions and IE 7 are not a good mix.
 
I sometimes wish my boss did the same
 
@IvoFlipse why?
 
but then I wouldn't have a 'social' life left :P
because it can be distracting and I respond to everyone who asks me something (implicitly too :P)
 
7:39 AM
@IvoFlipse is the social bug of the SU mod team.
 
well I snuck in PortableChrome to my workstation @Troggy else it'd be worse than you, got IE6 here
 
@nhinkle this horrible ugly thing seems to do what I want
now for programming it myself: heim.ifi.uio.no/~hpl/Pmw.Blt/doc
 
@Sathya Yah, my iphone comes in handy quite often for when I need to respond to something.
 
@Troggy, @IvoFlipse does seem to be quite the chatty fellow
though now that @studiohack and @Sathya are mods, you've got two more guys who like to socialize on the mod team. they're pretty much always in here
 
I work from home as a freelancer @nhinkle, how many humans other than my GF do you think I see every day? :P
and just because you're not a mod doesn't mean I can't bug you!
 
7:42 AM
heh, @IvoFlipse has logged 10k messages in here :D
 
@IvoFlipse, haha, quite verily. Feel free to chat with me anytime I'm around
 
"verily" :D
 
I try to be in here when I can, but life is rather busy at the moment.
 
(time to start a new counter, @Sathya!)
for those who missed the message: we're trying to replace the over-used words "yep" and "indeed" with terms like "verily" and "affirmative"
 

Frequently used words in Root Access

39 mins ago, 4 minutes total – 23 messages, 2 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 4 secs ago by Sathya

 
7:44 AM
I love the chat notification when someone mentions your name so I can reference back to important notes or just funny commentary.
 
13 hours ago, by Ivo Flipse
turn off the pr0n downloading @Sathya ;P
Like these? :P
 
What determines how long things stay up on the pinned messages?
 
think 2 weeks max, they rate limited it
 
it's not the # of stars, because I had a message with 5 stars stay up there for about a week, while other messages with more didn't replace it
 
as it was being abused
 
7:49 AM
@IvoFlipse but how do they get there in the first place?
 
by my grace mostly :P
 
@IvoFlipse :P
@nhinkle pinning is mod ability. As @IvoFlipse mentioned, it ages off after 14 days
 
Ahhh, OK
I thought they got up there automatically somehow
glad to see my support for @KronoS's t-shirt suggest got pinned. I'm a poor college student! I need more free clothing! :P
 
hi @Diago
lunch time, back in a bit
 
@Sathya I actually deleted my comment in which my answer was: I don't care. The new bounty system was clearly explained both on the blog and on MSE and was requested by the community. The asker takes a risk hoping to get an answer, and if you don't lose the reputation for taking the risk, bounties will be useless. I see no reason to motivate a chance
@Sathya @studiohack @DMA Congratulations on becoming moderators. Glad to have you on the time. Some rules thought.
1. What @random and I decide is final and binding
2. When in doubt about a decision refer to rule 1
3. When unsure about making a decision something refer to rule 1
Welcome aboard, thanks for playing, and have a nice day :)
 
7:57 AM
when you disagree with another mod, refer to rule 1
 
He didn't get the name Diago the Destroyer for nothing. ;)
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@Diago, why aren't @IvoFlipse and @Troggy included in the powers-that-be to refer to for the new mods?
 
Actually seriously the most important part is back up other moderators even if you don't agree in public. We resolve each between each other, but need to show a united front to the rest of the world
 
because they show no mercy and @Troggy and I are merely weak mortals in comparison
 
7:59 AM
@nhinkle Long long long history. Ask them to fill you in
@Troggy Yeah, what happened to you, I though you would be as strict as I was, and then, well.....
 

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