Root Access

Ivo Flipse

13:00

[status-planned] :P

that's there excuse for slacking

Sathya

13:23

I <3 my office web filter

DMA57361

facepalm

seriously? oh dear

Sathya

elections are games after all

/s

DMA57361

well, true I suppose, but still

erm... what's with the large spacing?

Sathya

the /s tag :P

DMA57361

oh yes...nm :P

Sathya

13:27

I've edited 4/13 of this bugger's questions

superuser.com/users/28404/…

DMA57361

only another 9 to go then!

Sathya

@DMA57361 indeed!

Ivo Flipse

what's he doing @Sathya?

Sathya

@IvoFlipse signs off each post with /kanu or __kanu

I think this is the second time I've dropped him a comment about signatures/tag lines not allowed

Ivo Flipse

man that guy is a failure :(

akira

14:01

/kickban comes in handy

:)

David

I didn't know you could kick people in here...

When do you get that privilege? With mod tools (10k rep)?

akira

i should stop irc-related jokes

oKtosiTe

lol

akira

maybe jokes forever, @studiohack never understands them :)

Ivo Flipse

To calculate the angle between these two, I would have to calculate the difference between the black squares center and the other two centers right? @DMA57361

9

A: Angles between two n-dimensional vectors in Python

import math def dotproduct(v1, v2): return sum((a*b) for a, b in zip(v1, v2)) def length(v): return math.sqrt(dotproduct(v, v)) def angle(v1, v2): return math.acos(dotproduct(v1, v2) / (length(v1) * length(v2)))

KronoS

14:10

@Sathya thanks for the edits to the blog

Ivo Flipse

oh right, I'm forgetting something... that's indeed the angle between those two lines, but I have no idea how the relate to orientation of the plate :P

DMA57361

lol

I was going to say "yes" but you beat me to it

Ivo Flipse

I thought 40 degrees was a bit large, but that seems about right

DMA57361

thought you were taking a mid-point and comparing that to the "vertical"

Ivo Flipse

and this wasn't the same trial as where one of them was straight

well I discovered some bugs in my toe sorting, because my mental model was messing up the order of the indices, so I was mixing up X and Y coordinates at some point

couldn't even draw those darn white lines correctly until I figured out what the problem was

DMA57361

14:14

ah I see

Ivo Flipse

it would constantly rotate them in the wrong direction and I had no idea why, because I could see I had the right locations :P

until I spotted I was using the X coordinates on the Y axis

o.O

DMA57361

opps

Ivo Flipse

I wonder how I ever passed 3D kinematics, hehe

guess there's a reason why it was my lowest grade from all my Master courses

Mark Szymanski

14:36

Good morning, all.

Ivo Flipse

morning @MarkSzymanski

Mark Szymanski

Hi, @IvoFlipse. How are you?

Ivo Flipse

"I've lost my coordination"

Ivo Flipse

14:54

but I'm trying to find my way back @MarkSzymanski

hi @nealmcb

wow a new user in chat again :)

though I'm not sure if new applies to @nealmcb

Sathya

yw @KronoS

KronoS

hey guys... what's up?

nealmcb

15:13

@IvoFlipse Howdy. I guess I've had root for over 30 years, but I'm always new to something. Like this room :) - You must login to post

Iszi

@nealmcb Welcome to the party.

Ivo Flipse

well we normally expect users to come from Super User (or any other Stack Exchange site) and your cookie would automatically log you in, so it's only a boundary for those who well... don't like automatic logins or who don't visit SU with their account :)

nealmcb

so are you seeing this? I get "you must login to post"

Ivo Flipse

oi @Sathya: a mod flag from Renjith

> this is urgent – Renjith G 1 hour ago

hardly ever @nealmcb

and neither will you, unless you clean up your browser cache or something

Stack Overflow Blog: Global Network Auto-Login

Posted by Jeff Atwood on September 10th, 2010

We now support automatically logging in to any site in the Stack Exchange network.

By that I mean, as long as …

… the site you’re navigating to will automagically log you in! You’ll see a notification bar at the top to let you know when you’ve automatically logged into a site.

(We just forced every registered account in the entire network to log off and log back in to ensure that everyone has logged in under this new regime — so everyone should meet criteria #1 by definition.) …

here's a blog post as a reference

KronoS

hey @studiohack how ya doin?

Sathya

15:28

@IvoFlipse mod flag for my comment?

studiohack

@KronoS: hey how are ya? sorry, gotta rush lol - just catching up with the conversation on here

Ivo Flipse

no, he flagged his question saying it was urgent

Sathya

@IvoFlipse :\ what can you do if it's urgent

KronoS

@IvoFlipse really?

Sathya

s/you/Mods

Ivo Flipse

15:29

no, the fact that's he's so cheeky to flag his question to ask for attention :P

KronoS

@studiohack lol it's all good... doing good... just sitting in class bored...

they're talkin about the basics of matlab... which I already know

studiohack

@KronoS: fun fun

have a good day all!

KronoS

later @studiohack

Sathya

reached home an hour late

laters @studiohack

a screwed db export meant the QA were not able to login to application, apparently the charsets of databases were different

and the passwords are stored as encrypted

had a fun time trying to reset the password

Ivo Flipse

15:51

should be more or less correct now @Sathya, looks like +5 and -18 degrees right?

Sathya

@IvoFlipse yep

Ivo Flipse

the angles are somewhat all over the place

Sathya

that pic is a reasonable approximation of a paw ( in my very little experience)

Ivo Flipse

though this isn't so odd considering it's both left and right paws and if they are both rotated to the outside, you'd expect both +/- angles

the large bias for positive angles makes me doubt how it actually differentiates between them :P

Sathya

16:06

> FYI: This is already being done for diamond moderators to a degree.

3

Q: Good Moderator Heuristics?

What, in your opinion, are the duties of a moderator, and what activity can we datamine from the database that will give us a good idea whether a given individual already performs those activities, or activities like that? For instance, I believe a good moderator should have at least a shallow u...

can you elaborate @IvoFlipse @Diago ?

Ivo Flipse

we have a overview page where you can see what each mod has done, how many for each day/week/year/all time

Sathya

@IvoFlipse I read that graph as an indication that +ve angles are more prominent than -ves

Ivo Flipse

yes, that's correct, and strange :S

Sathya

@IvoFlipse ah, I see

@IvoFlipse why would it be strange ? 2 | 3 right ?

Ivo Flipse

I had just removed all the plotting from my code, stuffed it back in to manually check all paws

Sathya

16:18

(as in 2 toes to -ve, 3 to +ve, rough guess)

Ivo Flipse

what would ve be in this case?

I see what the problem is, sometimes the rear toe is more rectangular and then the peak might be more on the side instead of the middle

so it's not really 'neutral' anymore

but well... don't think I can check against everything...

anyway, need to run, talk to you all later!

Sathya

see ya @IvoFlipse

David

16:44

Has anyone read Joe's nomination?

Sathya

@David yep

his activity stream :)

Aubergine

17:06

Hello all (or both, I'm not entirely sure)

Sathya

hello @Aubergine

Aubergine

I have a quick question regarding questions, and I'm sure someone here could give me a quicker answer than on the meta-site

Sathya

@Aubergine fire away

Aubergine

If I have a question regarding networking over electrical infrastructure, does it go here or somewhere else?

Thought as much

..?

Sathya

@Aubergine what would be your question

( summarize, if you can ) @Aubergine

Aubergine

17:09

I was wondering how many computers could co-exist on something like that

Basically, I have one router and two computers in another room I would like to connect to it

And I was wondering if I'd need a switch or something

Sathya

how's that related to electrical infrastructure, I'm not sure

you would use a wireless router

Aubergine

All that with network over electrical infrastructure :)

Obviously wireless is another option

I just can't figure out if network over electrical supports more than one "line" or not.

Sathya

I do believe there's ethernet over power, but I'm not familiar.

Aubergine

Oh, there is

Sathya

I'd say go ahead with your question in SU

it'll be good to read about it :)

Aubergine

17:12

Neat

David

17:35

@TomWij are TestDisk and GPartEd the same, or did I misunderstand your comment on that answer?

1

A: How do I shrink a partition on Windows, it seems broken?

A great tool that I use to shrink, expand, or even delete partitions is GPartEd (Gnome Partition Editor). The data center I work at uses this tool sometimes too (it's trusted). I would just advise that you attempt to backup your precious data first because I have had a computer BSOD on me after u...

TomWij

TestDisk is recovery software, GPartEd is partition shrinking software; they are not the same.

But I'm looking into what you misunderstood...

David

o nvm

bc you said possible duplicate answer...

TomWij

@David: I'm just confirming what you said, the word "indeed" would fit in this comment.

David

well I still would like to know what you meant by that.

how did you do that?

the hyperlink in there.

TomWij

Well, you could do it by source. But there is an user-script out for that, one moment.

David

17:37

o ok. Thanks a lot for the explanation and the help :)

TomWij

rchern.github.com/StackExchangeScripts

> StackExchangeScripts is a repository of userscripts created by Stack Exchange Community Manager Rebecca Chernoff. It currently contains client-side userscripts that integrate useful tools and modifications to improve the Stack Exchange user interface.

More specific: github.com/rchern/StackExchangeScripts/raw/master/…

> SEModification.user.js - Provides username autocomplete for comment replies, adds timeline and history links to posts and reputation audit link to the header.

Mark Szymanski

@David: Without the script, it's like:

[link text](url)

David

[this][superuser.com/questions/235721/…

nope

Mark Szymanski

Nope.

Paraen.

TomWij

@MarkSzymanski: No, he posed the question "how did you link to that comment?".

Mark Szymanski

17:40

Oh.

David

this

o

i c

that would work though wouldn't it?

Sathya

just a note, PDFZilla giveaway's on

David

Thanks @MarkSzymanski and @TomWij

Sathya

pdfzilla.com/giveaway.html

TomWij

[this comment](superuser.com/questions/235721/…)

Mark Szymanski

17:41

You're welcome, @David.

Sathya

PDFZilla Key Features
Convert PDF to Word
Convert PDF to Word with all text and Graphical data.
Convert PDF to RTF
Convert PDF to Rich Text Files. You can edit all text and graphic by Windows Wordpad.
Convert PDF to TXT
Convert PDF to plain text files. You can edit text by Notepad.
Convert PDF to Images
Convert PDF to BMP, JPG, GIF or TIF files.
Convert PDF to HTML
Convert PDF to HTML files and automatically generate the Index file.
Convert PDF to SWF
Convert PDF to Shockwave Flash Animation files which can be published on websites.

David

Wow! That's awesome @Sathya

TomWij

@David: No problem. :-)

Sathya

'nite folks

Mark Szymanski

Neat!

But.

It's only for windoze x.x

Goodnight, @Sathya.

KronoS

17:41

@Sathya done! :)

TomWij

Have only used such software once, don't see any other use editing a PDF instead of using notes. But well, everyone has his specific use cases... :-)

David

I normally only use CutePDF. It is regularly free. I will have to try pdfzilla out sometime thought. Thanks @Sathya

Sathya

fwiw @TomWij I don't use such s/w, it was just info. /outta here

TomWij

@Sathya: Thanks anyway, giveaways can be nice. Had one once for Tabbles...

@David: About userscripts... I'm actually wondering if I should write an userscript for in-page editing.

So that the edit link actually shows a text box above the post instead of going to another page which doesn't show comments/answers/duplicates/votes...

David

That would be wonderful @TomWij

Mark Szymanski

17:57

@TomWij: That userscript idea would be really cool.

TomWij

I've already written a Duplicates User Script, so I think it could be the next step as it would work in a similar way...

The problem is faking the live update of the preview and having the automatic tag support.

Given that in-line editing of tags is supported I suppose that part is already available for the question page,

although I don't know if it's easy to get the preview script at the question page.

But given the amazing things User Scripts can do, it is possible.

DMA57361

anyone else having problems loading the actual site?

Mark Szymanski

@DMA57361: Nope.

Works just fine for me.

DMA57361

darn.... I can't get to SU, SO, MSO or SE... but for some reason can get here...

Mark Szymanski

Weird.

David

18:10

try closing your browser, using ccleaner (clearing temp files), then retrying.

DMA57361

@David done all that, reset router as well

most of the internet is working fine as well, only found the SE sites problematic

hmmm, doesn't work in other browsers either >(

TomWij

@DMA57361: Can you reach stackexchange.com?

DMA57361

no

TomWij

@DMA57361: Have you tried pinging the sites?

ping superuser.com should give 64.34.119.12.

DMA57361

no... was messing with dns h/o

@TomWij yup, matching result here

TomWij

18:19

What does a tracert or pathping (Windows only, more analysis) with the parameter superuser.com reveal?

DMA57361

it routes "successfully" to stackover.com [64.34.119.12]

(althought one step in the chain is a set of 3 timeouts)

TomWij

Hmm, so no DNS resolving problems, it didn't show dropped packets either?

KronoS

@DMA57361 @TomWij funny... I'm writing up a blog entry on DNS issues

DMA57361

nothing dropped except the line that failed entirely

switching to google's DNS and clearing everything doesn't seem to have helped either

TomWij

@DMA57361: Do you have Google Chrome?

DMA57361

18:24

I have it installed, yes, but I've not tried it yet

(for this problem, I mean)

TomWij

Try it, if it doesn't work then visit chrome://net-internals/ and try:

- Check if the proxy tab lists the right settings, these should be the ones taken from Internet Explorer.

- See if the event tab lists any errors, and see what it lists when trying to resolve superuser.com, for me it gives:

DMA57361

there's no proxy settings, which is correct

TomWij

(P) t=1295547738381 [st=0] +HOST_RESOLVER_IMPL_JOB  [dt=8]
                        --> host = "superuser.com"
                        --> source_dependency = {"id":42493,"type":7}
(P) t=1295547738389 [st=8] -HOST_RESOLVER_IMPL_JOB
                        --> address_list = ["64.34.119.12:80"]

- See if the DNS tab lists a superuser.com entry, for me it gives:

superuser.com	ADDRESS_FAMILY_UNSPECIFIED	64.34.119.12:80

DMA57361

superuser.com UNSPECIFIED 64.34.119.12 33168

TomWij

@DMA57361: And if all looks fine, the tests tab should allow you to type in superuser.com and show you a lot of details.

DMA57361

18:28

erm, this page isn't tabbed ? ... I may have an old version

TomWij

I only get errors where it says "Use Firefox's proxy settings", but that's because I don't have Firefox. Nice to see it's smart enough to probe Firefox when Internet Explorer is broken... :-D

Isn't there a tests tab?

DMA57361

on chrome://net-internals/ there's no tabs at all - just lots of sections above one-another, and I can't see "tests"

TomWij

@DMA57361: 10.0.634.0 dev here, but well, some statistics aren't fully implemented but they should be sufficient to troubleshooting where the problem lies.

DMA57361

lol

5.0.375.127

let me try updating :)

TomWij

@DMA57361 Seems like an old version, isn't there a textbox at the bottom which allows you to test?

> Blog: Chrome on stable channel has been updated to 8.0.552.237 for all platforms.

DMA57361

18:31

chrome isn't my standard browser

TomWij

Yeah, probably not a bad idea.

Yeah, I just don't know how to troubleshoot in other browsers, but I guess that looking for network diagnostics there might give similar pages.

DMA57361

much better...let's have a look

tabs! ah ha :D

testing now

FAIL
Fetch http://superuser.com/ Don't use any proxy
-101
41960

second one is also taking ages...so doesn't bode well

do you know how many tests it tries?

TomWij

Strange, you can ping to it, so you can reach the machine and packets aren't dropped.

To me that would say that something is filtering your network traffic.

Have you tried disabling firewalls?

DMA57361

only have the Windows one on

TomWij

@DMA57361: Try disabling it just to be sure that the settings aren't messed up. Although...

DMA57361

18:40

anywhere have a list of the error numbers these tests return?

all I'm getting is -101

TomWij

It might be unlikely that something is specifically blocking superuser.com.

DMA57361

na, not change

@TomWij and stackexchange.com and stackoverflow.com but not chat.SE.com...

TomWij

ERROR: Error 101 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_RESET): Unknown Error

DMA57361

is chat on a different IP range?

@TomWij ah...

TomWij

By googling "google chrome 101".

DMA57361

18:42

well all tests complete, all FAIL after ~41s

TomWij

Connection reset would seem like a firmware action, either by ISP or by your Windows Firewall.

DMA57361

@TomWij ah, I was being too specific it seems

TomWij

@DMA57361: Yeah, likely to be timeouts.

DMA57361

oo, I can get to meta.SE as well

TomWij

Chat is 69.59.196.211 while SU is 64.34.119.12 while Meta.SE is 64.34.80.165.

So yeah, looks like different ranges.

DMA57361

18:45

well...maybe I'll just have to do something else this evening

TomWij

@DMA57361: If disabling anti-virus, firewall and cleaning temp data doesn't resolve anything; then yes, it might be your ISP...

Those are the suggestions I can find from Google Employees.

Cleaning temp data won't help as you are just getting the right IP.

Windows Firewall is unlikely as you probably haven't blocked the site or IP specifically.

So, an update or setting change to your anti-virus software (that has web filtering) could probably be the issue; if it isn't the ISP.

DMA57361

hadn't though of AV, but it didn't help

TomWij

But yeah, troubleshooting has to end somewhere. I wouldn't feel like calling the ISP either, unless the issue remains for a long time.

DMA57361

hmmm, oh well

thank's for your help

TomWij

Leaned pathping while I had problem some weeks ago.

I had a perfect connection with people from The Netherlands while gaming, but there was weird lag when gaming with someone from America.

Furthermore, scalable sites like Google just work fine, but Stack Exchange didn't work for me either.

But, it was just an issue that night and it didn't come back later...

Guess some major switch was having issues.

DMA57361

18:53

odd

KronoS

@IvoFlipse what did you do exactly with your DNS situation?

what setting did you change?

TomWij

19:28

Err...

superuser.com/questions/235703/…

David

@DMA57361 did you check your hosts file? Maybe someone is playing with you... :D

Just Jake

Anyone here an OS X user?

David

sorry, I'm not @JustJake

Mark Szymanski

@JustJake: I am.

David

I no a little bit though

What it your question

Just Jake

19:36

@MarkSzymanski, how familiar are you with launchd

Mark Szymanski

@JustJake: Not at all. Sorry...

What exactly are you trying to do?

Just Jake

No worries then

David

Sorry, I am not either

Mark Szymanski

Because if you want to create some sort of scheduled job, I do know about cron that will work just as well.

David

I would ask your question on either the Apple SE site or SU

Just Jake

19:39

@David I've asked at SU, but I only got three views or something. It's here

Basically: I want to run `transmission-daemon`in its own user at startup and use the web interface

Mark Szymanski

Why do you want to create a new user?

Just Jake

Because there are multiple users on the computer, it isn't safe to run it as root, and services in general seem to run under a _serviceName user

Mark Szymanski

Ah.

DMA57361

@David good idea, but no. It's my home DT and I'm the only one with Admin access (I did check, just in case, and all is normal)

David

@DMA57361 I'm running out of helpful advice...

DMA57361

19:52

well, rebooted, and checked from another PC on the network - same problem

I'm going to go with an ISP problem and give up

David

... OOO Try using a proxy @DMA57361!!!!!!! :D

That will fix any isp problem

DMA57361

ok. don't do that :P

rubber band sounds all over the place

and I'm not sure I can be bothered to find one I trust enough to use

KronoS

@DMA57361 did you try a nslookup?

DMA57361

no

KronoS

I glanced through the transcript but didn't see it if you did

try nslookup [website address] 8.8.8.8

DMA57361

19:54

I can ping and get the correct IP's back from DNS

and it only seems to be SU/SO/SE/etc I've lost

the chat's are on a different IP range, and work, so presumably there's some IP blocking or failure going on

KronoS

3

A: Top Question of the Week #2

I propose this question asked by our very own sys admin Kyle Brandt How do I diagnose not being able to reach a specific website as an end user? This question was asked because some users were tweeting Jeff that they couldn't connect to Stack Overflow lately. To help them, Jeff created a nice C...

4

Q: How do I diagnose not being able to reach a specific website as an end user?

If I can generally reach web pages on the Internet but can't reach a specific one, how do I troubleshoot what the cause is as an end user?

internet browser website community-faq-proposed

I just started the blog about this issue... try these.

DMA57361

@KronoS except... they are on SU, which I can't reach?

KronoS

@IvoFlipse had the same issue...

oh ya... lol

basically try using a different DNS... like google's public DNS and see if that's the issue

that's what the nslookup command does

DMA57361

done, no help

I get the correct DNS response

I can ping

I cannot http (it seems)

KronoS

it probably means that you DNS is messed... have you tried changing your DNS?

DMA57361

19:58

yes

KronoS

well.... then it sounds like ISP :(

sorry dude...

DMA57361

indeed

KronoS

grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm

pingplotter.com

what about these... tried them?

DMA57361

nope, but I will shortly

TomWij

What does flag for removal do on the review page?

It just removes it for me? To denote I handled it?

DMA57361

20:01

does a normal mod flag with some sort of pre-defined response

TomWij

Accidentally clicked it on one of the answers, it gave nothing as information...

DMA57361

it's on MSO somewhere, but I can't get there to find the link for you :(

Mark Szymanski

Dang..

Apparently, I earned the privilege to Edit Tag Wikis.

When I saw it, I saw "Edit" and I was all YAY I CAN EDIT STUFF

And, then I saw "Tag Wikis"...

Hehe, when I get the privilege. I am going to edit stuff like crazy.

TomWij

@IvoFlipse: @Diago: @random: Didn't know that the flag on the /review path made a direct flag without confirmation, I'm sorry, just ignore my last flag.

Weirdly, it doesn't show that link on every question there, I'm confused... :-(

KronoS

dang @TomWij you've been busy!

TomWij

20:10

@KronoS: Kinda, second half of yesterday I did only SU and the "Help Vampires" discussion, and some retag requests.

Learned this morning at a higher rate without pause because I didn't learn yesterday,

but I actually didn't need to learn as my exam went fine and my learning didn't have effect. :D

And then I planned playing StarCraft II, but instead I'm hanging around the second half of the day on Super User again...

If you look around page 4 or 5 of my activity you'll see I have been inactive for a time, but that's basically because I was around on other Stack Exchange sites.

But yeah, I'm going for one more thing and then for a gaming pause, perhaps I might find Ivo there. :-)

Oh, didn't see yet that my cross-site reputation lists 13.8k...

KronoS

How do you like SCII @TomWij

TomWij

Favorite game of the moment, for me, it is indeed (one of) the best RTSes of the moment and (one of) the best games of last year.

Played Age Of Mythology in the past for fun.

KronoS

I'm more of an FPS kind of guy

TomWij

But I'm playing StarCraft II in a more competitive setting. Want to go ladder high in 1v1.

KronoS

when I have time to play

TomWij

20:19

But as there are exams now I mostly play in team/custom or observe high level players.

Yeah, have been a FPS kind of guy too.

But a RTS like StarCraft II works refreshing for me, prior to that I was playing through the Bad Company 2 campaign and Quake Live.

KronoS

Mass Effect II was my last play...

haven't really played anything else since

TomWij

And prior to that, World of Warcraft (have subscription now, but well, exams...), Counter-Strike, Armagetron Advanced and some other games I can't come up with.

LoL and Minecraft for a short time.

Yeah, I wanted to do Mass Effect first to get some kind of continued story, but I didn't like the Mass Effect engine.

As for UIs, I like the KISS principle, too much different keys you have to remember bothers me.

KronoS

Originall Mass Effect took a while for me to get into...

but once I got into the story it was addictive...

the engine for the new one is better but not by much... story is great though...

TomWij

By the way...

2

A: Can my Internet go down because of my HDD...??

Please back-up first as Jeff suggested. First things first Have you tried updating your bios and drivers, especially chipset/network/raid? Easy things to do, might remedy the problem and more. :-) Have you checked the event log? If it does show a moment in time, you could skip the video reco...

might be community-faq worthy.

I plan to write a short response, but end up feeling I've not explained enough. >_<

Just Jake

If I have a question that could belong on multiple stackexchange sites, is it ok to post it everywhere suitable (IE, question related to OS X, post on both the apple stack exchange and on superuser)

TomWij

20:28

@JustJake: Try to find the site that matches the question topic best.

There should be a clear separation between most of the Stack Exchange sites, and if not then it would probably not matter. Worst case your question is just migrated...

Feel free to mention your question title if you want a suggestion.

Just Jake

Ok @TomWij, my question is currently here, but the systems I'm dealing with (launchd in particular) are Apple-only

KronoS

@JustJake this probably is the best place for it... It's just not getting the attention at the moment because not a lot of people even in the MAC world deal with that

give it some time and you'll get an answer

Just Jake

@KronoS haha, ok. I'm used to posting easy jQuery questions on StackOverflow and getting answered before I can refresh

KronoS

Well that and Stackoverflow has a vastly larger audience than we do...

TomWij

@JustJake: There are Apple and Mac OS X users on our website, and if it turns out to be that nobody knows your answer here we can migrate the question to Apple.SE later, just ask for migration to Apple.SE by flagging your post then. :-)

KronoS

20:34

we've got roughly 42,000 users total; SO has 315,000 @JustJake

TomWij

@JustJake: Yeah, it's amazing. If I have a discussion with a friend on how to do a specific programming thing, I just fire up the question on Stack Overflow and before we have decided there is a high chance that a better answer is available there... :-)

@JustJake: A small note, your question might get more attention if you list the problem/goal as question title.

As in "How do I do X on Y?" or if it's a knowledge question "Why does X Y?"

Anyhow, I'll be back later... Have fun, ppl. :-)

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