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12:15 AM
Bye guys I am off for a trip
Cya
 
12:57 AM
Question: if I were to vote for a question, get the Where in the World (Sun) hat and then undo my vote, would I keep the hat?
 
1:14 AM
Question: If I get caught cheating once, do my non-cheat scores get to leaderboard if eligible or I am banned once and for all?
 
1:49 AM
@nobody I see that it’s confirmed now. Nice!
@Rob Missed one day on Meta.SE myself too :/
 
Where exactly is the URL /hat-dash/ban-me-please-because-i-cheated? It's not in the JavaScript file...
 
2:05 AM
Looks like svgur.com/i/ isn't doing too well. All the images using that on the hat list are broken. "This application is temporarily over its serving quota. Please try again later."
 
Rob
2:34 AM
@Scratte It's working in North America, do you wish to say which country you are in; or use a site's "Contact" link to report the bug privately.
 
I got the Carnaval hat but wasn't expecting it today.
It appears edits need not be on consecutive days.
Dec 16: various edits
Dec 17: various edits
Dec 18: edits ONLY on own posts
Dec 19: NO EDITS
Dec 20: edits ONLY on own posts
Dec 21: various edits
Dec 22: various edits
my edits on MSE^
Not sure why Yaakov confirmed the 'consecutive' part earlier: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/56506160#56506160
My updated theory for Carnaval is “edit for 6 days (need not be consecutive), excluding tag edits but edits on own posts are counted”.
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@Rob I'm in Denmark. This is what I see
 
Rob
3:06 AM
@Scratte This is what North America sees.
I mentioned this in The Tavern.
 
Interesting. Maybe it's not just Denmark though. Unfortunately my transporter isn't working, so I can't test it.
@Panda So.. this is a good time to fix all the many typos on own posts :)
 
4:03 AM
@Rob It's back now.
 
4:25 AM
@Panda I agree. I have edits (not counting my own posts) on Dec 16, 17, 19, 20, 21 and 22 UTC time, where the days are also not consecutive.
The clues to the triggers are hinted at in the images: the Carnaval hat has 6 feathers, but often the action required isn't clear (editing in this case).
 
@Scratte Makes it much easier to get the hat, without the need for the edits to be consecutive. Otherwise, I would have had to wait for 3 more days. ;)
@TobyMak Right, seems like the updated theory's more or less the right one!
 
5:21 AM
@Panda Yup, I got it too. Should we edit the meta post or wait for Yaakov Ellis to reconfirm?
 
5:38 AM
@nobody Nice! I guess "consecutive" can be edited out for now. (I just edited.)
 
 
4 hours later…
9:46 AM
good morning everyone
@nobody what do you need me to reconfirm?
Carnaval does not need consecutive days. If I said otherwise, that was wrong
 
10:04 AM
@YaakovEllis good morning "Defender of the Unicorn"
 
@double-beep took you 15 minutes. Was wondering how quick it would be noticed. MSE post coming soon.
 
@YaakovEllis Confusion rose after you confirmed this with the "consecutive" part in the trigger. Thanks for clearing that up! :)
 
10:30 AM
@YaakovEllis should I "stay tuned" in the meantime?
 
10:52 AM
@YaakovEllis What's up with the "Defender of the Unicorn" hat?
For the design, check out the hat list
 
Rob
17 hours ago, by Rob
@Panda For Glorfindel it was only lots of edits for a couple of days. No other recent activity.
 
@Rob Sorry, what’s your point? 😬
 
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Q: Hat Dash White Hat Hall of Fame and Leaderboard Refresh

Yaakov EllisA few days ago, I solicited help on finding ways to prevent (or at least make it harder) for folks to cheat at Hat Dash. I would like to give a shout out to all users who have helped thus far - you can see them in the new White Hat Hall of Fame which is at the bottom of the Hat Dash Leaderboard. ...

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@YaakovEllis I wonder how long do I have to "stay tuned" ;)
 
11:19 AM
@Panda now that I made this release, hopefully not more than another day or two
 
11:44 AM
@YaakovEllis can I be unbanned from the leaderboard?
 
11:56 AM
@YaakovEllis How do I know if I am banned? Currently, I have methods to get a low score but in a ridiculously loooong amount of time.
 
Your own scores aren't filtered by being banned
I am going to put up a way to see if you are banned
@double-beep because you want to play by the rules?
 
@YaakovEllis That would be great, thanks!
 
@YaakovEllis and find new ways to cheat, too
 
 
1 hour later…
Zoe
Oh, nice
 
I was tempted to just rickroll folks who are suspended, but I held myself back
 
@YaakovEllis I knew I got banned! But thanks!
@YaakovEllis Is it normal behaviour to be able to pause the unicorn but with the timing still running in the background?
That could give me time to submit realistic results.
through /end
 
@YaakovEllis That link tells me I'm banned from the leaderboard. I have no idea why. I never tried to cheat. I just played on my mobile phone.
 
@Panda no
@Eran interesting, I'll look into it
 
1:15 PM
@YaakovEllis thanks
 
@Eran you are unlocked now, one of my rules was a bit too aggressive (also fixed anyone else who was banned for the same reason)
 
@YaakovEllis thanks!
 
@YaakovEllis Sorry, could I be unbanned now?
 
@Panda did you deserve to be banned?
 
@YaakovEllis Technically, it’s a bug in my browser that pauses the game when I open console.
But the time still runs without the scores increasing.
When I autofocus my window, the game continues but the score will be exceedingly low but with a long duration.
 
1:30 PM
@Panda you are not banned at the moment (might have been for same reason as Eran, and was removed when I cleaned that up)
 
@YaakovEllis Oh, that’s great, thanks
Weird that my timings don’t show up on the leaderboard
Oh it does now.
 
@YaakovEllis I have been banned, but I want to check one more way of cheating. Is there a way to do that?
 
@Panda leaderboard is cached for 5 minutes
 
Rob
Ah, that explains it.
 
@Tuqay not removing legitimate bans at the moment, unless you pledge to just play for real from now on
 
1:35 PM
So there is one more hat I can never get :facepalm:: white unicorn hat
 
1:48 PM
@YaakovEllis that's fair. I pledge to be good and not cheat anymore.
 
@Tuqay you are unbanned
 
@YaakovEllis thanks
 
2:15 PM
Looks like there is some problem again
 
@Scratte I managed to bag This is Fine
Still working on that good question =P
 
2:33 PM
@YaakovEllis just for fun I have been trying the bot approach to the game. Not caring about the leaderboard so I am fine with the ban status, but I was wondering if it would be possible to get the not-logged in game to still report if your actions would get you banned. The url obviously does not work for logged-out users, so it is kinda impossible to know if something would work. That said, it is fine if you won't - right now I just wonder how far the bot will go.
 
@Derpy you are interested in getting a "this game would have been banned" answer when hitting /hat-dash/end?
 
@YaakovEllis exactly.
I don't care to be unbanned since it is not my idea to get to the leaderboard in the first place. I would only like to know if the game did detect something weird or not
Basically, I want to know if the game detected that it was played by a bot.
Just for fun.
 
A J
How do you get 57k points in 38 seconds?
 
2:51 PM
@AJ ? you were asking me? Never done that
 
A J
I might have to ask @double-beep
Also, I might have to ping @YaakovEllis to get me unbanned. ;)
 
@AJ that's a score I got before the unban
 
A J
ohh
 
and when I got unbanned, it got reinstated
and also the 1929 one in 6 secs
 
@IanCampbell Awesome. I'm cheering for you on the leaderboard. I feel compelled, since I tested a hat out on you :)
@IanCampbell I have one in Java. But I doubt it would be a good fit for you.. it also requires some non-negligible work in order to prepare a post. The only real issue with it is that I have no Answer to it.
 
3:02 PM
I know almost nothing about Java, so I should probably avoid that.
 
Apparently I got banned either for viewing the source (I didn't run or modify anything) or going to winterbash2020.stackexchange.com/run-with-the-hats . I don't need to be unbanned.
I'm still curious what triggered it, though
 
A J
How does the Matryoshka hat work? Could it be all CVs or RVs?
 
@AJ I'm pretty sure it's 10 total. Could be 10 reopen votes that goes on to reopen the Questions.
I'd list all the possible permutations, but I think.. I'd get kicked for that :D
 
A J
or 10 CVs that will close the questions?
lol
 
3:12 PM
It's probably a lot easier to try out 10 close votes that goes on to close the Questions. So if you're in it to test it, go for that :)
Or.. test 9 close votes and 1 reopen vote? If you want to see it it's just the total 10.
 
@Wezl no you didnt
 
A J
@Scratte I am not getting how it actually works.
 
it only actively bans you for doing stuff during the game that is suspicious (detecting things both on server and client)
 
oh, it says "but are banned from the leaderboard". Are there different degrees of bans? (like, can I be banned from playing?)
 
@Wezl yes. Banned, and not banned.
it can also happen individual games can also be banned without triggering a ban on the user
 
A J
3:19 PM
It was quite helpful. :P
 
3:37 PM
@AJ Which part of it?
 
A J
I have more than 10 CVs and a couple of RVs on SO, but no hat.
So, I am confused about how exactly it works
 
3:51 PM
@AJ Vote to close or reopen 10 questions that ultimately get closed or reopened
concentrate on last part
Not sure if the close vote should matter or not
 
4:04 PM
^ that AnkitSharma said. Are they closed / reopen, like you voted them to be?
 
A J
yes
 
As a moderator or as a user with regular close vote privileges?
I think there was a post about this somewhere. I'm not sure if it works if you did it unilaterally
 
A J
We don't get many posts to close or reopen on the sites I moderate, so I went through review queues on SO.
 
I got the hat very late after multiple attempts, I feel close vote reason and majority reason might be at play
@AJ ofcourse :D Movies.se getting very less activity lately
 
A J
Not many movies are releasing these days, are there?
 
4:09 PM
Streaming movies make less fuss
 
4:21 PM
> Ask a positively-received question on five different days (get the Curious badge)
So it should be on site where I never got the curious badge?
For Edward hat
 
Rob
@AJ You can order Theater movies at home (Disclaimer: I don't work in a Theater, just answering the question). With limits on capacity and a business model based on selling seats the two are juxtaposed.
 
A J
@Rob Not available where I live
 
Rob
Basically, you order a Movie from your local cinema and it appears on one of your cable channels.
 
@AJ Paava Kadhaigal is on netflix ;) just saying
 
A J
@Rob I got that but it's not available here.
 
4:26 PM
@AnkitSharma No. It's the same trigger, but having the badge doesn't exclude you from getting it.
 
Rob
There's Paava Kadhaigal, if you're fluent in Tamil.
 
@Scratte good then I am two and a half way there
@Rob Hindi dub is there ( I don't recommend dub as subtitle are better)
 
BTW, a question. Did anyone notice a sort of "double jump" bug in the unicorn game?
 
Dan
I think I got banned for trying out a lot of different browser profiles and playing too many games in a short time lol.
 
@Derpy I got bored too soon :D
 
4:36 PM
@YaakovEllis Had the time to check on a not-logged-in game run what the /hat-dash/end endpoint does. I saw it returns the endgame message. If you could add that info too it would be nice - as I said, I don't plan to use it on the "logged-in" game.
 
Rob
@AJ If the location guess is accurate they do the opposite, build a living room in the theater.
Low density, luxury seating.
 
 
2 hours later…
6:24 PM
@Panda Weird coincidence, you tried a bot while I was trying another one. Think I got banned because of that, but I suspect you have a point on the "totalJumps" variable.
 
6:51 PM
bot
 
 
2 hours later…
8:32 PM
@YaakovEllis Looks like I got banned again but there's been no white hat cheating on my end, just legit games. Feel free to message me on Twitter again if you want to discuss!
 
 
1 hour later…
10:02 PM
@YaakovEllis I've been banned due to testing for this answer: meta.stackexchange.com/a/358522. Can you please unban me?
 
10:19 PM
@YaakovEllis I have been banned from the leaderboard and am unsure why. To my knowledge I have played fully legitimately and I am curious what it is that I did to get banned.
 
@RebeccaNelson Maybe you got unlucky and it triggered the "no obstacles for 10 seconds" rule?
 
@Anonymous maybe. Feels weird though, it sure doesn't seem like I had a 10 second period with no obstacles :/ then again I was playing a lotta games in a row so maybe it could have happened without my realizing it
 
I got Quarantine Hair on two sites. What does that mean?
 
@Someone It means that you wore a hat on two sites.
@RebeccaNelson Did you get any sort of "You're banned" message?
 
@Anonymous naw, just did a check on myself using the /status endpoint that yaakov posted in the se meta thread for leaderboard refresh.
truly, my dreams of being the biggest time waster on hat-dash across se have been shattered to pieces. truly this is a sad time for becky, and therefore, the world.
 
10:41 PM
@RebeccaNelson /status is a 404 error.
 

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