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12:05 AM
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Q: Winter Bash 2020 hat list 👒 🎩

GlorfindelWinter Bash 2020 has started and the masks hats are listed below. As always, there are only two answers: one for the secret hats, and one for the regular hats. The secret hat list will be updated as we learn them. Please, only edit the secret hat answer with definitive and correct triggers. This ...

^ now I'm wondering if that counts for Tiktop
@Glorfindel yeah it does.
Without doing anything on the site, I already got a Vexillologist on Travel.SE.
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Hiya!
Hi Catija
it's quiet here :)
@Glorfindel hmmmm
Oh. But it doesn't necessarily require you acting, I think.
no autoflags from Smokey either.
@Catija Can you please re-parent this room to no parent site, so it matches the 2019 chat room? This requires someone with mod access on Meta.
@Glorfindel Coincidentally, I happened to ask a Hot Network Question on Travel the prior day
12:22 AM
@gparyani given the amount of allowed travel these days, that's an accomplishment :)
I'm on my phone until the kids are in bed.
Guys, hello
I just got a secret hat
I have no idea why
Love the mask, Glorfindel.
On Travel?
@Ollie thanks :)
12:25 AM
The hat shows off knots, and one of the mods on Travel is a knot-tyer
room parent site changed to default (no parent site)
Yeah, now everything's orange instead of blue.
Just awarded Vexillologist on Meta
room topic changed to Winter Bash 2020: discussion & mask/hat hunting [winter-bash-2020]
@gparyani Are you even doing anything? :)
Or is it another Travel thing.
12:27 AM
Probably an award script that happened to run on Travel first
There is a bug i think, i can't wear any of my hats...
It just says "An error occurred while changing the hat - please try again."
Probably teething problems
I'll be going now
Ta!
Every Winter Bash and April Fool's has had teething problems
got a take this hat :)
12:30 AM
Wait no.
Yeah, I can't wear the hats. A bug report?
@Ollie Same as meeee!
Wait, then again...Meta also has a moderator who's a knot-tyer...
I'll report that.
Never mind, wearing my secret hat.
@Ollie I am wearing my mask
@U11-Forward All hats or just a specific one?
12:32 AM
@U11-Forward Yeah, tho sometimes works if wear for only 1 site
@Glorfindel Can you wear it?
@Catija Some, like the Vexillologist and the Bouncer
I get with all hats this error unless wear for single site in first instance
Glad to see that WB works on Edge Legacy
OK. Adam is poking at stuff. I'm going to try and focus on kids for 90 minutes.
12:36 AM
Also, currently in this room it is showing the hat I had on 3 hats ago.
Remember, this is almost three weeks long... go find the game or something.
@Catija no, masks are mandatory here in the Netherlands. I did find a bug already ..
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Q: '1 new hat' notification doesn't go away

GlorfindelNo matter how often I click the Winter Bash inbox, my [1] new hat indicator won't go away. This behaviour started when the inbox told me "You earned the right to run fast and jump for joy on Winter Bash!", so it might be related to that item.

@Catija Once you get back from the kids, it would be very nice if you also put a status-completed tag on the other request which was filed as a reconsideration request for the one you retagged.
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Is someone going to add the triggers for the secret hats?
@Glorfindel Yeah, I've got the same issue.
12:39 AM
@Xnero The triggers are secret
It's up to us to guess them.
In past years, there used to be a hat manually awarded by staff to people who guessed secret hat triggers.
I found one more secret hat Quarantine Hair
I don't know how i got it
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@gparyani I mean the ones that have already been discovered.
Have they?
@gparyani YEah... not this year.
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> Please, only edit the secret hat answer with definitive and correct triggers. This is not the place to post guesses. Winter Bash is a fun event, so secret hat triggers should be put behind spoilers (use the >! markup) in order to not to spoil the fun for those users who want to discover the triggers themselves.
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12:41 AM
But there's no triggers in the secret hats answers?
They need to be confirmed by a staff member as being a correct guess before they can be edited in.
@Xnero not yet because we don't know them yet
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@Glorfindel Ah ok.
user435118
These secret triggers are really annoying me now.
Could quarantine hair be to do with time on a site or in reviewing?
user435118
12:44 AM
@QHarr I've done a few reviews and nothing.
Wait...speaking of "running fast and jumping for joy" on Winter bash...
Isn't there a user on Meta who always runs fast, and jumps, not just for joy but also to kill mechs?
are we supposed to discover all hats in the first 2 hours? don't stress...
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I repro the same issue with the vexillologist hat bug.
There's no hairboat this year. Please don't bug people.
There's also no stress to solve the teething problems
user435118
12:56 AM
@Glorfindel Another secret hat: askubuntu.com/users/1060830/ollie#winter-bash (Cordovan)
Vexillologist seems to me to be "handled a flag"
I am using the dark mode since WB started, but i still didn't get the Flashlight hat.
Also, for guys who have more than 2k can't get the Carmen badge right...
I received a "secret hat", is it possible to know why / how it was received?
@MendelG Which one
I got the "Warm Welcome" secret hat, but I do not see it listed on the hat list yet.
1:06 AM
@JamesDunn Wow, did you do anything?
@U11-Forward the Hair Quarantine hat
@MendelG i got it too for no reason
@U11-Forward, I got it on stack overflow. I suspect it's because I upvoted a newbie's question, but I'll need to go verify it's a newbie.
And, yes, can confirm it was a new user. This is the question I upvoted:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65315677/problem-of-multiply-two-spinners-in-calculation-length-area-and-temperature
I think that's what triggered the hat.
@JamesDunn That's possible
It's my official theory... if I'm right, do I get any street cred?
1:09 AM
i upvoted it, lets see if i will get the hat
If you don't, then it may be that you have to be the FIRST to do it. Possibly within a short amount of time from when the question is posted. Also possibly with some conditions of no one else doing it, at least not within a certain amount of time. Those are my guesses as to the possible trigger nuances.
I will go try some things on some of the other sites to see if I earn the hat there as well.
I did it on another one now as the first person, lets see what happens...
I think it has to be a "New Contributor", someone who has just asked the first question they've ever asked. It looks like in my case, the user has been around for two days, but the question was only a few minutes old when I upvoted it.
I don't know what the rule is that triggers a new user to be marked as a "New Contributor" (e.g., is it just their first post ever and they haven't asked any others yet, or is there a time limit afterward in hours or days... or is it both conditions?). But regardless, my theory is that it has something to do with being the first to upvote the post of a user who is marked as a "New Contributor".
@U11-Forward you can suggest tag wikis up to.... 5k? Or 7? I can't remember.
I suspect that quarantine hat could have something to do with "visiting the site after x period of inactivity"
1:25 AM
My "hat inbox" is full although I have read all the messages. Every time I reload a SE page, it's as if unread message. Does this happen to anyone else?
I think Glorfindel raised something like this @MendelG
Alright, thanks @QHarr
Heh, I was going to start asking "Why isn't the 'Warm Welcome' secret hat on the Secret Hat List answer yet?"... until I remembered I have enough rep to edit answers :P Ha ha.
It's on the list now. :D
I was able to don the vexillologist hat after first wearing one of the distancing hats
I've worn one of the distancing hats, but I haven't gotten vexillologist yet.
1:33 AM
@JamesDunn I think Jeff is referring to the error some of us are getting with trying to put on certain hats
Is it possible to see who has a specific hat? for example see all users that have the "Social Distancing" hat
I can only put that hat on for a single site for example
@MendelG dunno but you can use leaderboard to check some basic theories
@QHarr Oh.
Cody has a balalaika hat... ain't seen that listed
there's a 'take this' as well
Take this is listed I think.
1:41 AM
I put dark mode on and went to spanish site and finally flashlight appeared (have had it on for a while however on stack)
Flashlight took a lot longer on SO than the international SO sites.
Go the quarantine hair hat. No idea how.
All I remember doing was getting and wearing the social distancing hats.
Mmmm I did flag a post for not an answer.
Is it impossible to receive the Edward hat if you already have the curious badge?
@Catija yup... I wasn't looking at the live list. Silly me :-(
Wonder if quarantine hair comes after switching hats some number of times. It's either that or committing a review (late answer, in particular)
@ThomasMarkov no?
What's the trigger for the badge?
1:53 AM
Ask a good question in five separate days.
@JeffSchaller review cannot be the case. I got mine on a site where I don't have access to reviews.
@JeffSchaller I got Quarantine Hair on Retrocomputing after doing exactly one thing: setting "Social Distancing (main)" as my hat.
@Mark that's the one I wore to test the theory about wearing some other hat before the vex one
@Glorfindel is there already a "show off my hats" page?
2:00 AM
Vexilologist is probably for helpful flag.
@AntonMenshov that's the leaderboard
Vexilology is the study of flags.
I got it after a flag of mine was marked helpful through community review.
@AntonMenshov I was remembering meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320014/… and Glorfindel is the man to put it up... But maybe it is too early, as we just started...
I marked a flag helpful and received it alongside the other two. I doubt I had a flag out there that was marked helpful in the timeframe.
Hello!
2:07 AM
/o
I also got Quarantine Hair, and I did practically nothing on SO (just one upvoted question to get the Warm Welcome hat)
Any secret hats discovered?
@Eran Hmm I got Warm Welcome without getting Quarantine Hair on SO. But I did get Quarantine Hair on another site without doing anything.
I'm now >80% sure that the trigger for Warm Welcome isn't changed from the past year.
@Eran Oops I forgot, hello to you too!
I did some edits, votes and comments back and forth with new users and got a flurry of hats
@QHarr Wow how did you get so many hats?
2:22 AM
I found some new users and helped them either direct or through review queue (new users)
@Panda Hi! Maybe you get Quarantine Hair for the first site you visit during Winter Bash? Probably not.
@Eran The hat list's updated with the trigger "Wear a hat on any site" which seems plausible to me.
Does the bouncer hat have to be from the review queue or do initial close votes count toward it?
That makes sense. I just wore a second hat on MSE. I should get it there too.
@ThomasMarkov I think review queue
2:26 AM
And I just did.
@ThomasMarkov You can do that at any point, yeah?
2:53 AM
@QHarr How did you get Balalaika and Disciple hats?
I am stuck now... can't get any hats...
@U11-Forward You don't have to get them all on the first day :)
@Eran Yeah I should calm
One more approve would really help me lol
Hello
3:09 AM
Anyone got Take This!?
@U11-Forward Me
@ppwater How did you get it?
@U11-Forward I think it's somewhat related to getting a association bonus
Seems like I got an influx of hats for doing edits and reviews on SO.
@ppwater I got the association bonus today
Still no hat?
3:13 AM
@U11-Forward Hmm, Or take the tour?
and get a bronze badge?
Oh Maybe!
Because I joined codegolf, then read the tour, got a bronze badge, and got the hat
@U11-Forward Try it!
Can you still earn the Carmen hat if you have passed the suggested edit rep threshold?
@ppwater Now i did, see will i get it or not
@Lankymart I don't think so...
@U11-Forward You got it!
3:17 AM
Seems a bit weird to create hat's long term users can't earn.
I suppose you could earn it on a different site.
Wow i just got 3 hats!
15 now same as QHarr
@U11-Forward How?
@ppwater Because I did some reviews...
Ah...
You can't right...
3:21 AM
Yeah. I'm really close to 2k
Oh i got 16 hats...
@U11-Forward You are 1st in the leaderboard! congratulations!
@ppwater Wait may you upvote this: stackoverflow.com/questions/65316701/…
@ppwater I upvoted you you got 2000 now
@Lankymart Should be possible until you hit 20k.
@U11-Forward thanks! I'll review now
3:24 AM
@Lankymart Many of the hats can't be earned by newer users... so, to some degree, it's a matter of balance.
@U11-Forward Reviews no?
I got lost in racing that bloody unicorn on no sleep!
f%^&
@QHarr It's just the first day of bash don't worry
@Panda You have excatly the same hats as me
3:47 AM
@U11-Forward nice, I think it's the same set of hats too
@Panda Yeah that's what i mean
Hot did you guys get disciple and balalaika?
@Eran Just review, you will get it too
@Eran It seems to be a mix of reviewing posts from new users, leaving comments & voting to close in the review queues.
I did some reviews (close, re-open and suggested edits), but maybe I should do some more.
3:51 AM
Leaving comments on low quality posts might do the trick.
Back on top now...
Got Snaphat!
@U11-Forward Upvoted!
@ppwater Thanks very much!
Sorry I was late...
It's okay!
18 hats now!
4:20 AM
Wow you have so many hats!
@ppwater :-)
Just reached 37k!
Nice! too bad our hats doesn't display on chat (below the leave (all) room info
Yeah...
Wait.. Why are your hats disp... Oh, screenshot
Yes 19 hats
@ppwater I wear lot of hats because i take screen shots.
4:29 AM
Haha nice ;)
What happens if you click No hats for me please ? does your hats disappear?
I don't know...
No Knitting ? this year?
@Earid Yeah...
Yeah means? NO ?
@Earid There is no Knitting this year
4:33 AM
I guess they changed knitting to hat dash
Hats was also in past.
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Q: Winter Bash 2019 Knitting

WELZRepost of Winter Bash 2018 Knitting Just go here and click Start Knitting! Share your knits in the answers.

Yeah, I know
Guys i will take a break from my PC time for you guys to try to get me, bye!
5:01 AM
I am probably gonna be stuck at 19 for a while... because the rest of the hats are hard to get…
5:12 AM
@U11-Forward Yeah. unless there are more easy secret hats! bye!
@ppwater I am back
@ppwater Yup
Hello!
Do self-answers count for TikTop hat?
Did anyone get ordovan? how did you get it?
@U11-Forward I don't know. maybe it counts..
Hello all
Congrats @U11-Forward for maintaining your position from last year ;)
5:23 AM
@CinCout Thanks :-)
@Panda How did you get Cordovan?
@U11-Forward Should be "post gets edited by owner after you comment on it".
5:39 AM
@Panda Thanks for sharing!
Do you guys have the same problem?
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Q: Can't see my hats on mobile version

U11-ForwardI was looking at SO on my mobile, and for some reason I kept looking and couldn't find any thing about winter bash on SO on my phone, I can't see the winter bash logo on the top right, and the number of hats I have, and of course the hats I have. Is this a bug?

@Panda I got it too now!
@U11-Forward No problem!
@Panda Thanks man!
Does anybody know who I should contact to get an entry removed from the hat-dash leader-board?
Wow strange that there aren't any hats for silver and gold badges!
@U11-Forward yeah..
@Kaiido What do youo mean?
5:55 AM
@ppwater I mean https://winterbash2020.stackexchange.com/hat-dash/leaderboard
I'd like to have my entry removed.
@Kaiido just click No hats for me please
@ppwater I waited the 5 minutes for the cache and it's still there. I don't think it's enough.
6:15 AM
Does anyone know how to get Mariachi or Movin' on Up?
@ppwater have no idea!
@U11-Forward me too... :( please answer this if anyone knows
Movin' on Up must have something to do with some answer (could be owner of question comments on and accepts the answer, not sure about the sequence of actions)
@Panda I did that I got accepted by OP and OP commented on my post, but no hat
@U11-Forward Ahh so my guess is wrong. :(
6:22 AM
Maybe...
6:36 AM
I think i am one answer away from Hanafuda
If anyone upvotes this i will get it:
Um, upvote what? it doesn't have the link
This:
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A: Python How to use pointer in function

U11-ForwardYou need to return: condition = True def set_false(con): return False condition = condset_false(condition) print(condition) Output: False

and does anyone know the reason I didn't get Cordovan?"post gets edited by owner after you comment on it".
Hi @ppwater, I tried building model for various combinations of differencing/Transformation techniques with multiple lag order form range (1, 15) like below. approach: diff, order: 1, lag: 1 approach: diff, order: 1, lag: 2 approach: diff, order: 1, lag: 3 approach: log, order: 1, lag: 1 approach: log, order: 1, lag: 2 approach: log, order: 1, lag: 3 approach: log-diff, order: 1, lag: 1 approach: log-diff, order: 1, lag: 2 approach: log-diff, order: 1, lag: 3 and so on each gives me different output with different mape score — MJ029 18 mins ago
That's strange...
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Q: How to Optimize VAR model in python?

MJ029I'm currently using VAR model for MTS[multivariate time-series] forecasting on monthly sales dataset with MAPE as 19.08. Please find my data distribution as below. TRAIN: 36 months TEST: 12 months MAPE: 19.08 I would like to Optimize the model further and I tried almost of various lag/order[diffe...

@U11-Forward well, upvoted
6:38 AM
@ppwater Thanks man!
is there any time limit? on Cordovan
@ppwater I have no idea
Oh, just got it!
@ppwater Cool!!!
dbc
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is there a substantial lag between fulfilling the conditions for a hat, and actually receiving the hat? I upvoted somebody's first post 51 minutes ago and haven't received "Warm Welcome".
6:41 AM
@dbc yeah it took me a while to get my mask for some reason
Yes i got Hanafuda
21 hats!
7:04 AM
I got 7/10 answers with positive scores, so almost can get Rep Hunter.
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How does I wish to Subscribe hat work? Should the [feature-request] questions be from WB?
@AJ No, just upvote 3 question on any Meta site that has a [feature-request] tag on it
Wow i got 203 rep today
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I think I have upvoted three on MSE but no hat
@AJ with that tag?
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Yes
7:09 AM
Than prolly should wait a bit, the hats arrive really slow
213 rep today for me
what 223 now
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Trying for Guru badge
@AJ Upvoted
@AJ UVed. Good luck
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@U11-Forward all set to lead network wide again? ;)
Thanks all
@AJ Yup :-) no.1 now...
Wow you were no.1
I need 15 UVs on a very old answer for the Guru badge :P
I need 11:
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A: Replicating rows in Pandas

U11-ForwardTry this np.repeat: newdf = pd.DataFrame(np.repeat(df.values,3,axis=0)) newdf.columns = df.columns print(newdf) Output: Person ID ZipCode Gender 0 12345 882 38182 Female 1 12345 882 38182 Female 2 12345 882 38182 Female 3 32917 271 88172 Male 4 32917 271 8817...

Lol
Oh on meta I need 10:
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@U11-Forward Including my top two sites
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A: Why was I awarded the taxonomist badge?

U11-ForwardYou did create it, look at top right corner of the page: https://stackoverflow.com/tags/default-method/info you created it because you were the first one posting on it, and created it out of nothing, the first question of the tag was: Explicitly calling a default method in Java which was your...

7:17 AM
@U11-Forward my point was getting so many votes is tough
that too on an older post
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@CinCout there isn't any one closer?
@AJ nope :(
@AJ I don't either
I thank the person who upvoted my answer
This is the closest I stand:
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A: Expected unqualified-id before '[' token

CinCoutThis is C++, not Java! Declare arrays like this: int myCashierNums[1000]; int myOrderNums[1000]; Please note that the arrays in C++ must have a size at compile time. In the above example, it is 1000.

Actually I already got the Guru badge with this post:
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A: Is there a difference between `board[x, y]` and `board[x][y]` in Python?

U11-ForwardThey're able to do that since they're using NumPy, which won't throw an error on that. >>> a = np.array([[1,1,1], [1,2,2], [1,2,2]]) >>> a[1,1] 2 >>> # equivalent to >>> a = [[1,1,1], [1,2,2], [1,2,2]] >>> a[1][1] 2 >>>

7:20 AM
13 more now :D
@U11-Forward during WB?
@CinCout No...
@U11-Forward haha bad luck :P
@CinCout yeah
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I would need 5 in next year's Winter Bash
7:22 AM
@AJ lol
243 rep today i got
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:D
@U11-Forward any secret hats alongwith?
@CinCout No...
Anyone care to take a look at this Politics.SE answer.
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A: Who pays for President Trump's impeachment defence?

PandaPersonal lawyers are paid for by the President himself while the federal government pays for lawyers from the Office of the White House Counsel (see this WH document for their salaries). Legal teams outside of the Office of the White House Counsel cannot be covered using taxpayers' funds: The Wh...

And vote based on merit!
7:24 AM
@Panda UVed
Thanks!
@Panda you got it
S**t, i reached my rep cap
No points for upvotes now...
@CinCout Thanks, you’ve got 12 votes to go!
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@Panda Interesting answer
7:26 AM
@U11-Forward this is supposed to be a good thing! :P
@Panda yup, an uphill task for the upvotes :D
@CinCout Well actually yeah...
@CinCout Maybe a bounty would help? I tried that in past years to varying success.
@AJ Thanks :)
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Successful Close Review means getting the question closed, right?
@Panda interesting suggestion. I might try that close to WB end
7:27 AM
@U11-Forward 7 now
@CinCout Thanks man
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Already upvoted
7:46 AM
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A: Pandas read_fwf alternating line formats

U11-ForwardYou can try to get every other row, and join the Text into one string as a new Text column, like this: data = df.values.tolist()[::2][1:] df = df[1:] df = pd.DataFrame(df.values.tolist()[::2], columns=df.columns) df['Text'] = [' '.join([str(x) for x in i[:-1]]) for i in data] df = df.drop('3', ax...

Any one wants to upvote that ^
Please?
.... I'm kinda frustrated at this whole "vote up my posts" stuff.
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Just ... don't do it. The point isn't to create voting rings.
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@Catija Ok sorry Catija
Can we stop saying anyone upvote this stuff? like catija said.. please don't do it...
Yeah, thanks.
8:09 AM
Does anybody have any idea how to get Mariachi, Movin' on Up, Give a Leg Up and Samovar hats?
Give a Leg Up? was that discovered?
@ppwater I don't know?
Is Take This confirmed? I'm pretty sure you get it for taking the tour and getting an Informed badge. It doesn't have to be on a new site (as long as you don't already have the Informed badge on that site).
@Eran Yeah, Or getting a first badge on a site. we don't know that yet..
And we had a small discussion about that meta.stackexchange.com/questions/357915/…
8:28 AM
@Vickel posted an hour ago by Shree: meta.stackexchange.com/q/357952/295232
@Glorfindel Cool!
@ppwater First badge on a site is not required. I got it on Bricks, where I already had other badges, but only got the Informed badge today.
I can't get any more hats....
@Eran Ah, okay should I edit that here?meta.stackexchange.com/questions/357915/…
8:44 AM
@ppwater I'm not sure if that's the only trigger, but it seems like taking the tour for the first time is sufficient. I think it's safe to add that to that list.
@Eran Edited!
OK

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