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10:00 PM
Well now that we've got that edited to perfect, does anybody actually think it's answerable? I'm inclined to think not.
 
Well, I've gotta agree that it's quite broad
 
@Caleb: It does sound like a question with 12 (11?) separate answers.
 
though i think it can be summed up rather well in one post
like
1. John blah
2. Matthew blah
i don't think the OP is expecting extensive answers anyways
 
What if an answer covers 12 biographies but two or three are displuted and come up with alternate answers? Or an alternate answer comes up with a detailed set of histories for 4 of them but doesn't really cover the others?
 
I think 12 questions still makes more sense.
There's nothing wrong with 12 "What happened to X after Pentecost" with 12 "X blah" answers
 
10:10 PM
OP edited
"What happened to the main disciples after Pentecost?"
 
That's even worse
which ones are "main?"
 
too opinionated
VtCing
 
@Flimzy the original 12 that Jesus called - now a group of 11 (Judas sold Jesus)
 
VtCed as well
If the meaning is the original 12, then it should say "12", not "main"
to me "main" sounds like "Peter, James and John"
Or maybe "The authors of the epistles"
or some other definition of "main"... at any rate, it's very ambiguous.
 
I agree completely
where do we all stand on "Does the bible say anything about X?" questions?
 
10:15 PM
it is not too opinionated, the OP is simply asking what happened to the primary 12 disciples after the Pentecost...minus Judas, that is
 
how do you classify "main" disciples?
 
@Purmou I think they are on-topic and good questions.
 
I think it's on topic, and good questions... the key being questions
in the plural
 
@Flimzy ? lol
 
goodnight all
 
10:17 PM
night, @Sotiris
 
@Sotiris G'night!
 
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Q: What does the bible say about interracial marriages?

PurmouThis has been a popular topic of debate, at least where I live. As Armenians, we like to...discourage marriages with spouses of a different ethnicity or nationality, simply in order to carry the culture and Armenian name for as many generations as possible. Were there any mentions of interracial...

 
@Purmou I'm sure there are several in the Old Testament, but I don't know about the New Testament.
Also, yet another question I have to wait to +1... :P
 
XD
 
@Purmou Also +1 from me, but I'm working on a deficit so it will have to be tomorrow. Great question.
 
10:25 PM
@Caleb No problem. And thanks.
 
@waxeagle: A generalized version of something you suggested earlier. Perhaps after airing this out you can work out the specific case you had in mind to pose a question about.
 
"Is sleep deprivation brought on by Christianity.SE a sin?"
 
@Flimzy
 
@Flimzy I'm pretty sure my sermon last week suffered ill effects, so I'm going with yes.
 
@ElendiaStarman psh no wonder you can't vote, you're the top voter of all time on Christianity.SE
 
10:32 PM
@Flimzy :P
@Purmou
@Purmou Yep! :P
 
I know my work has suffered
 
10:47 PM
@Caleb LoL... that's funny
 
Are two-sentence questions frowned upon?
 
@Purmou Mostly, and so are 2-sentence answers
 
@Purmou: I don't think so... can you ask more specifically what you mean?
 
Well I'm asking a pretty simple question, and there isn't much detail I can go into about it.
 
@Purmou: A couple of my questions are quite short, actually.
 
10:49 PM
Questions that do not show any research effort are frowned upon....
It's often difficult to show research in a question in a single sentence.
 
here's my question though:
"I used to be an avid church-goer, but as of late I haven't had the chance. Would this be unfaithful in the eyes of God?"
 
and it's also hard for other people to find your question if there aren't enough keywords, so people make duplicates
 
how could i expand upon this then?
 
Which sadly got closed
 
@Purmou Jesus says that some get distracted by the worries of this world and fall away from the faith
 
10:51 PM
@NathanWheeler That's true but not in itself a reason to ramble on. That's part of why duplicates are not actually considered a bad thing.
 
@Flimzy Well, the questions are definitely similar, but it's not that I do not believe what is being taught, it's that I just can't go usually. I'm a Scout, and we meet up every Sunday morning.
 
what kind of scout?
 
Many churches meet at times other than sunday morning... although it's hard to say if that's true where you live.
I go to church on sunday evenings.
Also, my answer to that question at least addresses your question a little bit.
 
It's actually an Armenian scouting group. We used to be under Boy Scouts of America, but we broke off.
 
Some times I really hate the daily 200-vote-rep cap.
 
10:55 PM
Christians suffer from their own imaginations. I just realized that this is true.
 
But I guess it makes sense... so people can't spend 24 hours/day on SE to earn insane amounts of rep
 
@JonathonByrd What do you mean?
 
I'm just thinking about my friend jurgen again.
wondering why it is that there are so many christians like him
 
@Flimzy I don't get the rep cap. If you're doing good, don't you deserve the rep? Doesn't matter if you gain a ton in one day, if your'e doing something helpful you deserve it.
 
It's because they create a God that they WANT to love and reject the God that IS.
they suffer from their own imaginations
 
10:57 PM
Purmou: It encourages people to contribute over a long period of time
@Purmou instead of all at once... which I think is useful
 
@Flimzy You have a point.
 
@Purmou Without the cap, I'd probably have 2000 rep by now... which might seem nice.. until you realize that other people would have 5000 by now
 
@JonathonByrd Did you see he believes we need to belief what God tells us? I'm just a little confused.
 
@Flimzy I think you made a dupe of your own question :P
 
@Purmou: Where?
 
10:59 PM
@Caleb I'm a little confused as to what you're saying Caleb :)
 
@Purmou No, the rep cap is a good thing. Things get out of control really fast with bikeshed questions, when something gets linked off site, a question hits the multi-site-colider or any number of issues. You don't want people gaining rep out of some sort of boundries or it would become meaningless. It's already questionable.
 
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Q: Does the Bible make any alusions to life on other planets?

FlimzyWhat, if anything, does the Bible say anything either supporting the theory of life on other planets, or suggesting that there is none?

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Q: Are these Bible verses referencing UFOs?

FlimzyEzekiel 1:16: This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. Exodus 13:22: Neither the pillar of cloud by day nor the pillar of fire by night left its place in front o...

Well, now that I think about it
One is for interpretation, the other is asking for whether it esists
 
@Caleb, @Purmou: I think it's funny how on SE sites my most popular answers are also the simplest ones. The 200 rep cap makes sense there... I have some answers with well over 10 votes, that took me less than 30 seconds to write off the top of my head. Having the cap does help keep me from looking like a sheer genius for these silly answers.
 
@JonathonByrd Your friend make a great point in that linked comment that we need to do more than believe in the existence of God, we have to believe Him and actually do what he says. The bit I don't understand is how we know what he says if we throw out the Bible having any kind of authoritative wait since earlier he said he didn't care what the Psalms say.
 
@Caleb Oh! Hahaha. Nice.
 
11:01 PM
@Purmou: The UFO verses might be considered evidence for ET life in the Bible... but the qustions really are quite different, and have very little overlap.
@Caleb: s/wait/weight/ ?
 
So did we agree on whether my church question was to brief?
also, what's "s/x/y"?
 
@Caleb Would it be rude if I pointed that out to him?
 
spelling correction
 
@Flimzy Yes, sorry.
 
@Purmou: It might be good to mention why you don't attend church.
the scheduling conflict bit
 
11:03 PM
i did--i'm just not getting the chance. partly cause of my scouting
 
If you don't go out of apathy, that's different.
I know you told me...
I'm saying to include that in your question on the main site
 
@JonathonByrd Risky. I would let that comment stand since it's quite valid on it's own and call him out on an answer of his own (if he ever gives one).
 
All right, bulked it up a bit
I used to be an avid church-goer, but as of late I haven't had the chance. This is primarily because of my scouting activities, which take place Sunday mornings (evidently the same time the church service takes place).

I know it's been stated in the bible that we as Christians should come together, but I am getting a chance to do that elsewhere, specifically at my youth group.

Would this lack of church attendance be unfaithful in the eyes of God?
 
Why the word "evidently?" Don't you know when your church is scheduled?
 
am I misusing the word?
 
11:06 PM
It implies that you don't know for sure
 
"1. Plainly or obviously; in a way that is clearly seen or understood."
 
Well, in American english, anyway, it has the connotation of uncertainty
 
"2. It is plain that; it would seem that"
 
@Purmou @Flimzy is right on this one, that word in that context implies some level of hearsay or uncertainty about the detail.
 
Hmm, I don't know
okay
i'll remove it then
Thanks guys
 
11:07 PM
Perhaps in other dialects it has other nuances :)
 
@Purmou Leave it out. Even if your local dialect wouldn't draw that conclusion, large numbers of people would and it's out of place.
 
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Q: Do I have to attend church every Sunday?

PurmouI used to be an avid church-goer, but as of late I haven't had the chance. This is primarily because of my scouting activities, which take place Sunday mornings (the same time the church service takes place). I know it's been stated in the bible that we as Christians should come together, but I ...

is my avatar not working for anyone else, by the way?
 
@Purmou UNIX method of replacing occurrences of x with y. The proper format is actually s/x/y/, with the slash at the end.
 
that's so much easier than PHP
lol
 
In my experience, most things are easier than PHP... :P
 
11:10 PM
though
@Flimzy PHP is the king of server-side scripting
which is why i love it
 
I've never used PHP server side...
er
that's not what I mean
 
...
haha
 
:)
Anyway, I pretty much hate PHP for server-side scripting.
 
D:
why? :(
 
It's clumsy.
 
11:12 PM
you know, these sites run on that kind of system
retrieve data from questions database
 
Whenever I use PHP, I always find myself saying "Man, I wish I could do X, like I can in [insert any other language here]"
 
@JonathonByrd we should bring popcorn for the next scene. Your friend is objecting to the "religious" terminology even though he had to use it to convey his meaning from his own POV.
 
put it through a foreach (or while) loop and display the content
 
Huh?
 
@Caleb This guy is literally a CLASSIC American Christian
 
11:14 PM
@Flimzy to me or @Jonathon? :P
 
I didn't mean 'do X' as syntax... I meant 'do X' as in 'do [something]'
 
@JonathonByrd ... from Germany.
 
for example, I find the way PHP does regexes to be very annoying
 
@Caleb Ah.. man this crappy theology is everywhere
 
@Flimzy yes, i know
i was just explaining how the SE sites did their question displays
on the home apge
 
11:15 PM
@Caleb It's no wonder the destruction is getting worse. God's getting pretty fed up, up there :)
 
@Flimzy Really? Other than perl, there aren't many languages that let you handle them as many different ways as php.
 
@Caleb that's probably true... perl does sorta have a corner on that market.
 
i'm a beginner to intermediate in php
i just got into it
first thing i learned to do was make a neat email confirmation system
that was from a guide though
after that, i put my skills to the test and made an "invite" feature
you put in a friend's email
your email
 
Fortunately, we only have one PHP application we use at work, and we hack on it rarely... and usually it's another guy who does that hacking
 
and both your names
 
11:17 PM
Although... I am pulling in RoundCube soon... which is PHP-based. I doubt we'll do much hacking on that though, since it's not an in-house app like the other one
 
@Caleb Boy how am I ever going to be able to participate on this website long term if I have such the urge to correct this guy.
 
@JonathonByrd: The problem isn't "this guy"...
 
@Flimzy INCREDIBLY TRUE
 
@JonathonByrd: Starting in a few hours, there will be far far more people you constantly have the urge to correct.
 
11:18 PM
@Flimzy haha
 
two questions on the top votes front page
 
@Purmou does that mean you're one of the most ignorant users of the site? (since you had to ask such questions?) hehehe
 
@JonathonByrd Remember that he's a comment troll. He hasn't made any headway providing answers. If he puts up some good answers great, if he just comments and bashes other peoples answers eventually it will get shut down. This isn't a discussion forum/debate site.
 
@Flimzy lol. if you read some of my earlier messages...
 
But Flimzy is right, there are going to be LOTS more like him. Don't feed the trolls.
 
11:20 PM
If I limit my results per page to 50, then I have a bunch on the first page, too!
 
@Caleb I think that's part of my problem with him. Is his way of going about this.
 
This bears repeating. Don't feed trolls.
 
@Caleb Don't feed the trolls. :)
 
I think we'll have a lot of trolls here.
 
@JonathonByrd I agree and told him so, but this is going to be standard fare here in a bit.
 
11:22 PM
And as such, our reaction to them will be a reflection on how Christians behave
 
11:32 PM
@Flimzy ...ackward silence...
lol
 
hi
 
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Q: How to handle comment trolls?

CalebWe're still in beta and the trolls have come out of their caves. I suspect in the weeks and months to come they will multiple like rabbits. The subject matter at hand is going to breed them like there is no tomorrow. It looks like this: You put up your great-well-researched-answer. You are passi...

 
@Caleb Great phrasing. +1 :D
 

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