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user435118
17:00
@Mithical AFAIK destroying accounts messes up some flag log stuff
I'm pretty sure he said he didn't destroy the account, just disabled it.
Your account was not destroyed. See this search. The topmost entry is your old account.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): coinpayment api in mvc ✏️ by roya khosravi on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): coinpayment api in mvc by Junior Emilio De Leon Diaz on stackoverflow.com
@Makyen is it possible to reenable the account and disable autoflags to achieve this result?
@Mithical If Daniil wanted to disable autoflagging for his account, he had the option to disable autoflagging, or disable metasmoke's write access to his Stack Exchange account. Those are things under his control, but he requested that we do it.
user435118
17:02
@Makyen Again, that's not what I said.
@Rubiksmoose If Daniil chooses to disable autoflagging, then that's his choice. He's previously been aware of this choice. He asked for us to do it for him.
... *sigh* I'm sensing a certain level of passive-aggressiveness on both sides here...
@Makyen I think it is abundently clear now that it is not what he actually wanted though. Can it be reversed so he can disable autoflags?
Let's take a step back. @Makyen, can @Daniil's account be reinstated and then autoflagging disabled for that account, either by an admin or by Daniil himself?
17:04
I don't think there is any need to be petty and over literal with every interaction here it will only escalate things further.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How to assisn value to variable from json output ✏️ by Mukesh Kumar on stackoverflow.com
user435118
@Makyen I asked for my flags to not be used for spam waves, not for autoflagging to be disabled by SmokDetector.
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@Daniil If you want your old account reactivated, I'm happy to do that, but you've made mutually exclusive requests. Which one do you want us to honor?
17:05
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): how to use call_back_address and ipn url in coinpayment.net gateway by Edit on stackoverflow.com
Rob
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Apr 11 at 2:16, by Makyen
@gparyani On MS, MS admins have a tool which allows them to specify a "spam wave". There are various criteria that can be applied, which must result in at least 10 matches already existing in MS post records and all matches must be TP. Once set up, a "spam wave" definition remains active for a maximum of 24 hours. During that time, MS will automatically apply the number of spam flags specified in the "spam wave" definition to any matching posts which SD reports.
user435118
@Makyen The one request that I made.
I'm nearly home, I can look at stuff in a bit if necessary
17:05
@Rob Oh, neat! Thanks for digging. :)
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user435118
@Rob How does that relate at all?
Rob
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@Daniil Rob was just responding to questions regarding the spam wave tooling you were talking about earlier.
Namely... I wanted to know what it was :/
@Rob thanks
@Spevacus as did I
Rob
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17:07
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@Daniil A simple yes or no: would you like your account reinstated so that you can, yourself, manually disable autoflagging on your account?
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, no whitespace in body, potentially bad keyword in body, repeating characters in body (262): Image doesn't show when I send an email / swiftmailer ✏️ by IchBinDuck on stackoverflow.com
user435118
@Rubiksmoose As I've said a number of times, yes. I never asked for my account or autoflagging to be disabled.
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@Daniil You've asked A) (in bold) 'please do not use my autoflags for the "Spam Wave" tool', and B) "Please activate/reactivate my old/new Metasmoke account". These are mutually exclusive, assuming you have autoflagging enabled, which is something in your control, not ours. Again, I'm happy to reactivate your account. I have done so, under the assumption that your most recent request is the one you desire to be honored.
user435118
17:10
@Makyen I'm not asking to turn off autoflagging, I'm asking for them not to be used in a spam wave or a spam war which is manually controlled by humans.
user435118
Thanks for reactivating though.
@Daniil It looks like you currently have three options, with the existing tooling and options: 1.) Leave your account disabled. 2.) Re-enable your MS account with autoflagging disabled. 3.) Re-enable your MS account with autoflagging enabled, including spam waves. I don't really see any other options at the moment.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How to fetch data from server in JSON form by Sujith Shetty on stackoverflow.com
Now, after you make a choice about which of those three options you'd prefer, the possibility of adding an option to opt out of the spam wave tool can be discussed, but that's not going to happen with you and Mak sniping at each other.
(AFK)
user435118
17:13
@Mithical I wasn't "snipping" at anyone, it's just some people can't read what is being asked of them and manipulate what is being asked, just as peoples autoflags are being manipulated without their approval.
@Daniil I thought that I'd clearly and explicitly stated before disabling your account that there is no technical capability to exclude your account from use in a spam wave and have autoflagging enabled. Having autoflagging enabled is under your control. Alternately, it is the absolute minimum permissions available on MS. Without autoflagging enabled for your account there is no access to metasmoke. Period. That's how the permissions work.
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@Daniil See that right there, that is exactly sniping.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): How credible is the ending of Collateral? ✏️ by Zachary Lehocki on movies.SE
user435118
@Mithical Ok. I'm disabling autoflagging, revoking all write access tokens and strongly advise everyone else to do the same.
17:19
@Daniil keybase
Everyone else, disengage
@Mithical Same here.
user435118
@ArtOfCode No
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): What key is this in? ✏️ by Shiny D. on music.SE
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Someone's mass-tagging coinpayments-api on SO it seems.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body (57): Apply to the PILOT Innovation Challenge for a Chance to Win up to $150K by Yoni Poor on softwareengineering.SE
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user435118
17:29
This place seems to be full of manipulation, manipulation of logged chat messages, manipulation of your flags which are being raised manually by a human when you never even consented to it. What's next?
@Daniil But you need evidence to back this up
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Your claim is basically <something> is manipulated by <someone>, and you need to at least give one example for that
user435118
@user12986714 I have obvious evidence of manipulation of chat messages and have evidence of manipulation of flags when you didn't consent.
May I suggest that we take @ArtOfCode's advice here and disengage? It doesn't seem like this is going to be productive or useful for anyone.
user435118
17:31
@user12986714 Scroll up in the chat a bit, you'll see loads of it.
user435118
@Rob I didn't agree to have my words manipulated.
@Daniil Once again, you have been told explicitly to disengage in this room. Art has asked you to speak with him else where. Do so.
user435118
@Andy I said to him, "no"
Everyone else: Disengage
!!/tea
17:33
@Spevacus brews a cup of darjeeling tea for @Spevacus
Oh hey @thesecretmaster
Hello hello!
How's IPSBot doing?
I saw somebody was running an instance again, which was cool
Uh... I think there's a replacement half-running
BTW, to all the mods here not in the TL actively, there is a recent mod Team post that might be of interest. (I say this not as a tease, but because I don't want to give the topic air here hence it being there in the first place - nothing to do with this current fracas)
@Daniil Do not delete my messages.
user435118
17:35
@Andy And don't delete mine :)
@Daniil I deleted it.
Look at the history. You'll see I didn't.
Now, leave the room.
user435118
@Andy There's no history :)
user435118
Pluss it was "feeds" who deleted it before I redacted it.
user435118
Ok, I'm off now for a bit (because I need to have dinner).
17:36
Please. Stop it. Everyone. This is not helping any of you. Ping a CM in the TL if you want, that's the next step if you're not going to sort this out yourselves.
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I'm really not going to engage here, but can I ask an honest question about this Spam Wave? As long as autoflags are disabled, you're not a part of it, right?
Yes, we can't flag for your account if autoflags aren't enabled as far as I know
Just to make sure I've properly understood it.
Thank you.
If you want to be sure, you care revoke your SE API access token, but that'll also stop you from flagging through userscripts that use the MS API.
@Mast correct
17:38
shrug
At work, I need to request 3 tokens a day because of some odd bug, so I'm sure that's separate. For FIRE, that is.
user435118
@thesecretmaster You can just then put the access token in local code and modify it a little to flag through the SE API, you choose what you flag in this way and much more secure
Also, to clarify another misunderstanding that I've seen, tokens are stoked in a DynamoDB instance which only Undo has access to. When MS needs to cast autoflags, it sends a request to a AWS Lambda running under Undo's account which then reads the token data and casts the flag.
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@thesecretmaster And is implemented here
user435118
@thesecretmaster Sure, sure
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17:41
@user12986714 Yeah, I am in part talking about it because it was my project and I'm proud of it :)
I think there's a repo for the lambda code somewhere in the Charcoal-SE github org
Called like ms-autoflagger or something
@thesecretmaster Ay nice job :)
@thesecretmaster Which is here
17:43
IIRC it was a prerequisite for migrating the server from Undo's AWS instances to teward's infra in a way that still protected tokens, although that was a little while ago so my memory may be foggy.
@thesecretmaster I don't understand 75% of what you said, but I'm going to assume you did an amazing job stocking dynamite in your flag-based fraternity which is run by Undo. XD
...not even too far off
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for the record, I'd add smoke-based-sorority too if it'd fit
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17:48
are you using dynamodb to keep within AWS stack, or do you like it better than alternatives like mongo?
@Dragonrage dynamo keeps everything serverless and sub-penny-per-month cheap
And keeps incompetent sysadmins like me from screwing up security on something I manage
user435118
@Undo Please link me to the discussion where there was clear consensus for you to change the room description
Mar 5 '16 at 20:03, by Undo
we're a team, not a democracy.
@Undo fair enough. at my work we have a managed mongo that we use, but use a lot of AWS stuff as well. was curious if you had experience with both
@Dragonrage No experience with Mongo, nope.
17:52
Also, if anyone is interested in talking about MS capabilities in a way that relates to the earlier argument but is concerned about restarting things, I'd be happy to explain what I know to anyone over keybase DMs :)
@Dragonrage the other thing about Mongo is that it'd need a server
which we were kinda trying to avoid
@ArtOfCode How can I tell Rails to "execute something for once when this commit get deployed/tested" ?
@tripleee Discussion in Keybase
yeah I'm there
kk
17:54
@user12986714 stick it in a migration... is this about the suffix tree?
@ArtOfCode Yes.
@thesecretmaster Any particular reason why that would be on keybase instead of on teams?
I need to execute SuffixTree::create at the begining
@user12986714 how long is that going to take?
@ArtOfCode which operation?
17:55
@user12986714 The overall migration
@ArtOfCode it can be cloud hosted in AWS, GCP, or Azure afaik
If just the creation, ~1ms on ext4
oh, that's fine
Yeah just throw it in a migration
17:55
@Undo I am not sure how that will going to be, but my estimation is several days to several weeks
thought we were talking about multi-hour operations here
But the migration is intended to be async
...oh
@ThomasWard When you have a chance, it looks like Horus is having problems. After Horus, my instance was failed-over to. My instance then experienced significant problems trying to log in to SE chat (i.e. a long string of reboots). I don't know what the problem was, but killing it and letting the instance sit for many minutes resulted in it working after a time. Prior to letting it sit, I had tried multiple times just killing it and restarting, which didn't fix the problem.
You may need to do something similar with Horus.
Just the creation
17:55
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@user12986714 this is where we need to get @ThomasWard involved to figure out the best way to do that
Is there a way that you can build the tree locally and we can upload the pre-built tree to MS, thus avoiding the long operations?
@ArtOfCode Likely; my current implementation is to just have MS online and migrate via the insert range functionality in dev controller
If we can do that, that'd be the best way, I think - it avoids putting all the load on the web server and taking everything else out
@ArtOfCode I have spinning disks, which severely degraded the performance
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username, offensive body detected, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title (135): Did jews kill each other by Anthony Dwayne Chapelle on history.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in title (1): Is Canda$$ Owens a PuSsy? by Random on serverfault.com
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17:57
@SmokeDetector k
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@Mast Q&A on teams, but I was thinking if anyone wanted to have a conversation. It's not super important just don't want to stir things up again.
@ArtOfCode Basically, I am thinking about just have the empty tree created as migration, and after MS is online, let someone write a script that sends insert range request to dev controller
@thesecretmaster Ok
@user12986714 via this route
!!/watch (?-i:^San-Mak$)
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Eclipse goes unresponsive when a period character is typed by Hendrik Hübner on stackoverflow.com
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user435118
@Undo That doesn’t constitute changing the rooms description in a arguably major way
@Undo There is certainly a lot of talk about "token" around.
18:22
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@Daniil Major? A non-existent tag name was replaced with another non-existent tag name. Neither the old nor the new tags linked to anything useful. The tags change did nothing. Rather than continuing to be contentious here, you should move the conversation to Teams or TL, where at least the conversation won't be publicly visible
... not TL
Sure, then Teams
user435118
@Das_Geek I want all records of manipulation to be public now
My apologies, I didn't mean to overstep. I am not really active in either so I shouldn't have made that recommendation
18:25
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user435118
@Das_Geek No problem :)
@Daniil I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that a cute, fluffy dog is manipulating things with evil intent, but I see no such evidence. To me at least, this conversation history does not look like a "record of manipulation", but rather a series of nitpicks
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user435118
@Das_Geek Nothing against Undo but others who have manipulated me, specifically Makyen
Hm, I'd rather this room be focused on clearing spam, than be filled with accusations against individual users
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Keep it public as you will, but do it in a channel with a more appropriate topic
18:30
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, blacklisted user (73): Missing question, "The Stepladder Proof of the Goldbach Conjecture on Academia.edu " ✏️ by GREGORY MAZUR on meta.SE
user435118
@Das_Geek I never said I'm not willing to discuss it in a private channel with Makyen.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title (2): Missing question, "The Stepladder Proof of the Goldbach Conjecture on Academia.edu " ✏️ by GREGORY MAZUR on meta.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body (140): Where is the best drug rehab center austin? by Infinite Recovery on superuser.com
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user435118
sdc location
user435118
sdc standby Sandy
18:33
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@SmokeDetector Why was this reported twice?
Potentially bad keyword in body - Position 150-162: Academia.edu
Potentially bad keyword in title - Position 70-82: Academia.edu
user435118
sdc location
@Rubiksmoose I don't have the why data for that post (anymore?). You should be able to find it on metasmoke.
@Daniil Sure. As I said, keep it public as you will: that part's up to you. All I'm saying is that I would really appreciate it if accusational or otherwise contentious topics be kept out of here, unless they specifically relate to keeping spam posts at bay
18:34
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@Rubiksmoose Two instances running
@Machavity ah ok
I think I've completely lost access to my Keybase account. :/
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, blacklisted user (73): The Stepladder Proof of The Goldbach Conjecture on Academia.edu by GREGORY MAZUR on math.SE
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@Undo Oops, it took me 10 minutes to realize that I meant to type "KB" for Keybase, not "TL" for, uh, whatever it is that mod room is called.
18:39
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): Cómo acceder a los datos de una API para mostrarlo dentro de una página HTML by Rafael on es.stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title (2): The Stepladder Proof of The Goldbach Conjecture on Academia.edu by GREGORY MAZUR on math.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): The benefits of ALGORITHM=INPLACE in ALTER TABLE queries by a deleted user on dba.SE
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user435118
sdc location
!!/standby horus
!!/pull
user435118
@Makyen Horus isn't running
@Makyen I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, blacklisted user (73): The Stepladder Proof of The Goldbach Conjecture on Academia.edu ✏️ by GREGORY MAZUR on math.SE
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19:04
@Daniil I'm sorry to hear you feel I've manipulated you. I'm not aware of having done so. I'm happy to discuss it elsewhere.
@Das_Geek Short for Teachers' Lounge.
@Mast Thanks! It's been a while; I've forgotten a few things
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Asking for help with a riddle ✏️ by Liminal on puzzling.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Help designing a motor control circuit ✏️ by Costa Manavis on electronics.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer, toxic answer detected (159): Get back into an instrument after long break? by duhh on music.SE
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19:20
Surprised that's only potentially bad.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (31): Where to find file BHYVE_UEFI.fd by Florian on unix.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): Getting public IP address of a remote's desktop client by rob-DEV on stackoverflow.com
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@Mast It was also marked as "offensive", if you're thinking about the word I'm thinking about
@Das_Geek Slice any section of 3 words. Any. All offensive.
No wonder it had a toxic score of 0.99
Perhaps the potentially trigged on 'stupid'?
@Mast No, the index started before that
If I remember my Smokey logic correctly, you'll often see "bad" words also be brought up in the "potentially bad" section. Something about increasing the reason weight for autoflags
Right.
Oh right, I remember now. Autoflags can be set based on reason weight and number of reasons caught. So this was a technique to increase the number of reasons caught, otherwise it might have been only 2 reasons (and 3 might be the minimum for autoflag I think?)
user435118
@Mithical Been there
19:38
!!/blacklist-website infiniterecovery\.com
Why was there an fp on that?
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer (85): Do "chess engine in the cloud" services exist? by Ani Harutyunyan on chess.SE
user435118
19:55
@SmokeDetector k
user435118
sdc watch ani(?:@chessify\.me)?
@SmokeDetector Not sure on this one. The question does ask for information about chess services, and disclosure is provided. Probably best to edit out the contact information and watch for future activity before spam-flagging
user435118
sdc watch chessify\.me
user435118
19:57
@Das_Geek Too spammy with an email
Isn't that an editable fix?
!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/58470237 "Complete nonsense copy-paste of something unrelated. Looks like a Markdown formatting guide."
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): How to fix DatePickerDialog in spinner mode for Android 7.0? by Nguyễn Đình Hổ on stackoverflow.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Struggling with CoreData relationships and deleting objects by consolata gathoni on stackoverflow.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (93): how to replace woocomerce attribute values (like color) using php by Rafi Laatiriss on stackoverflow.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (93): How to declare dependency in an extension over another extension? by poornima on stackoverflow.com
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@RyanM People actually answered that one. facepalm
!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/31540484 "Complete nonsense copy-paste of something unrelated. Looks like a Markdown formatting guide."
20:14
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): How to write Safari(5) specific CSS? by xzvcx on stackoverflow.com
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@Machavity this is by far the weirdest abuse pattern I've seen yet
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Relationships in CoreData by consolata gathoni on stackoverflow.com
!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/51514749 stackoverflow.com/a/21810325 "Complete nonsense copy-paste of something unrelated. Looks like a Markdown formatting guide."
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 1 out of 2) (94): Aligning Facebook Like Button by Asad Khan on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 2 out of 2) (94): Facebook Like box not expanding container div by houda on stackoverflow.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Are my allies just for show? by a deleted user on gaming.SE
Okay, that's enough markdown formatting guides for today...
20:20
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@RyanM How could you possibly have enough markdown formatting guides in your life that you can't welcome another one? ;-)
@Rubiksmoose Hahaha. Perhaps there will be more another day :-)
Actually chuckled out loud at that.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Fetch ignores "entity" designation - CoreData on iOS - returns wrong entity by consolata gathoni on stackoverflow.com
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@RyanM :-)
@JeffSchaller That was my first reaction, but I wasn't sure enough to put a "fp" on it
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body (2): I'm Brazilian, holding a B visa, in Canada right now. Am I alowed to enter USA? by Silvia Rocha on travel.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (31): Is it possible for git-merge to ignore line-ending differences? by antman on stackoverflow.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in username (1): What's with the lack of communication? by no one on meta.SE
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user435118
sdc watch b-broma\.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): wrinkle detection with python opencv by Nishi Shah on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in username (1): When can I post again? How can I regain access to the network? by no one on meta.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in username (1): Why do the community managers absolutely despise me? by no one on meta.SE
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user435118
@SmokeDetector @Das_Geek This is tpu, it's a known troll
@SmokeDetector User links to YouTube video they're affiliated with. Commented on their post regarding disclosure rules
Yeah, it's NAA. The Q was bad there
20:38
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Toxic answer detected (80): "Thus" vs. "Thusly" by Kimberly James on english.SE
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@Machavity That's what I figured. Didn't see any other activity by them on MS, so I fell back to the "three strikes" guideline
I need like a changelog of all the things that have happened since I've been gone :P
The big thing is some of us can actually handle flags now, instead of merely raising and talking about them ;)
True haha. It was like when Leonardo DiCaprio finally got that Oscar: highly-active Charcoal folks finally got diamonds. The only downside now is that there isn't a running joke anymore XD
user435118
@Machavity It's not as fun now :)
user435118
20:51
No more trying to convince the mods it's spam
Honestly, other than a few sites, it wasn't too bad. Sometimes the mods would be faster than this room. It must be the glasses...
20/20 vision is quite useful in spotting things quickly, I imagine.
Where's Mr. Gray to chime in when you need him
True, but by that same token, when you see that strong pattern in Charcoal you can just make that user go away
user435118
@Machavity At least mods who know how Charcoal works properly :)
@Machavity Yeah, but now I want mod-info and Sam's extra mod-actions in FIRE. :)
20:55
@Makyen IKR. Sam made so many things easier
I'm assuming those actions are quick-actions like Destroy User for Spam reasons, as an example.
Oh yeah how did that review suspension wave go? I looked in the channel and the numbers seemed to go down. People learning, or are they just banned for that long? :P
Not entirely sure how that whole shpeal works. I've seen bits and pieces posted on MSE.
@Machavity I'm sure I'll add them. It just takes time.
user435118
@Das_Geek I think people got tired of reporting bad reviews
20:57
@Das_Geek Have you seen the UX updates to review suspensions?
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Why am I a known troll? by user835152 on meta.SE
@Spevacus Only the brief mention that Shog put in his grading post. I'm still catching up
@Das_Geek Well, then! Behold!
Oh
I think that was in Shog's grading post, but there's the announcement post.
@Das_Geek The primary purpose of the long review suspensions was to make sure that the problem that was noticed was actually communicated to the user. With the changes, it's no longer necessary to have long suspension times in order to be sure the user sees what the issue was.

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