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8:00 PM
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@SmokeDetector OP posting an answer to their question instead of what should be an edit
 
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@ThomasWard :-) I'm glad to hear you've healed-up.
Yeah, sometimes the holidays take a while to bounce back from. In general, things don't seem to go back to "normal" until after the Super Bowl. :-)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Minecraft 1.8 mac OSX 1.6.8 - minecraft.app not running at all by Jacob on gaming.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body (99): how to do text analysis by vb.net by Mohammed Abdelhakem on stackoverflow.com
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@SmokeDetector Should probably be edited so it's not behind a redirect
 
8:17 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (172): www.googleadservices.com uses an invalid security certificate by Karen Renee on stackoverflow.com
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8:30 PM
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!!/watch-number- +(1)917-275-0726
!!/watch-number- +(1)305-203-1297
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 6ffb74f (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of +(1)917-275-0726 by Das_Geek) (running on iBug/Sandy Shores)
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!!/watch-number- 917-275-0726
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8:51 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Training ImageAI on cloud TPUs by Vikrant Chauhan on stackoverflow.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body (97): Write an automated test for a REST API service: More description in Body by test data on stackoverflow.com
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Is this user spamming their website? IMHO yes. See their other posts. stackoverflow.com/questions/49045941/…
 
9:09 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): React npm start fails by Jonte YH on stackoverflow.com
 
@Dharman Yes. User profile says "Founder of Expert Suggestion.com" and they're not disclosing they are involved in its creation and running it, so spam
my two cents as a moderator
 
Would the best course of action, given they're not a 1-rep newbie, be to inform them of the rules, and if nothing happens mod flag?
 
@Dharman He even edited spam in
 
How to handle it? It seems that their contirbutions are not that bad.
 
@Machavity ewwwww
 
9:14 PM
My official blog is an admission of affiliation though. NVM it is just a link to the blog. I thought it linked to an article.
Should I mod flag or just go one by one and flag as spam? I am really not sure what the proper action is here.
 
I would comment, tell housekeeping to remind me tomorrow, and if nothing changed mod flag
 
@Das_Geek I'd still mod-flag it but that's me
i'd call it to the attention of the mods to let them know the user needs told about this, or at least warned, but meh
 
@Dharman Some of them can have the spam edited out (example) while ones like the one you listed should be spammed
 
@ThomasWard I guess my hesitation to do so comes from their higher rep score. Though I guess it could be argued that with that score comes a higher expectation to know the rules
 
@Das_Geek It's only 265
 
9:20 PM
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@Das_Geek "higher rep score"?
 
@Dharman I know; by "higher" I mean "above 50", kinda like the threshold for the "stricter" AdvancedFlagging comments
 
265 is nothing :P
 
Yeah; they're not a total newbie
265 could be 26 upvotes
 
I asked Cody to join us. Should help clear things up
 
9:21 PM
@Das_Geek I hold a higher standard, 50 < REP < 1000 they aren't a total newbie and SHOULD know the rules
 
What specifically was it you wanted an opinion on, @Machavity?
 
@Machavity well if Cody is an SO mod
there's a custom flag :P
@CodyGray see customflag re: user on stackoverflow.com/questions/18210700/… I just filed
 
@ThomasWard Yeah, that's was my other point. Greater power, greater responsibility and all that
 
@Das_Geek with 57 posts listed on their profile?
 
@CodyGray We're not sure how spammy that is given some spammier posts with the same link
 
9:23 PM
You want me to look at a flag? Are you trying to trick me into doing actua mod work?
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out of the last 7 I checked (this year) 5 were including their site they're a founder of as links/source
@CodyGray lol
@CodyGray I mean, I could probably ask someone else to do it, but that'd be grounds to call you "skirting your duties"... :P
 
@ThomasWard Yeah, sure. While 265 isn't much compared to 53k, it's not insignificant. Contributions are contributions, and I would never poo-poo any other user because the number next to their name is lower. I mean this in the general case, not necessarily for this specific user. The exception being 1-rep spam accounts, which is why we're all here :)
 
As a user, anything that meets our definition of spam is fair game. As a moderator, there are times when we investigate and determine that the red-flag penalties are not appropriate. But that doesn't make the flag wrong, since you as a normal user couldn't possibly know that information and aren't expected to do our job for us.
 
that's waht custom mod flags are for :P
no "red" flags ;)
 
Custom mod flags are for when you want me to do 1+ hours of investigative work, without having to raise more than a single flag.
 
9:29 PM
D:
 
@CodyGray ... this counts :P
 
How in-depth is expected of mods? Obviously it depends on the task, but hours seems almost excessive
 
time to search 57 posts for self-promotion? :p
 
Yeah, I guess that could take an hour
 
Honestly the questions seem clean. Only a couple of instances of self-promotion
 
9:30 PM
So, I'm not sure what the debate in here was, but... This definitely counts as spam. The user in question has been warned before. Flags in situations like this are appreciated. As I alluded to above, it isn't the flagger's job to consider any potential consequences. It's just the flagger's job to make sure that the flags are correct and meet the stated requirements.
 
@CodyGray that was the debate
 
Maybe whack this answer with a stick and edit the other?
 
whether to flag for mod attention or not because of the excessive self promotion in the past sev3eral posts they did ;)
 
@Das_Geek There are no expectations, really. It's our own judgment. Going through a bunch of someone's posts is time-consuming, and if it gets into edits they've made to other's posts, it's even more time consuming.
Some of us are exhaustively thorough. Like when handling plagiarism flags. The best thing to do is to go through all of the answers and look for other instances of plagiarism. But that takes approximately forever, hence "exhausting".
 
!!/watch- expertsuggestion\.com
 
9:32 PM
 
@CodyGray You can do the Martjin thing and ask SOCVR to help. We have always exempted mods from the "don't target users" rule
He used to ask us all the time. I think he got burned out
 
@CodyGray At what threshold would you deem it "worth it" to mod flag rather than red-flag individually (assuming all the user's posts are potentially red-flag-worthy)? I've mod-flagged posts of users who've "only" made a few bad posts. Would that have been making too much work for such a "small" task?
 
@Machavity I have used Guttenberg, but it's not as good as I'd like. Honestly, rules aside, I'm not sure that making the investigation that public is a good idea. I do encourage users who identify a plagiarized post to go through the same user's other answers to look for other instances of plagiarism. I prefer that they not serially downvote the user, but looking and flagging is OK.
@Das_Geek My whining about making work was just that: whining. Not advice on how to flag.
 
oh lookit they lost a lot of rep! evil grin
 
Prefer a single mod flag over raising more than a couple of red flags.
A serial violator always requires more investigation. Custom flags are the best way to alert us to that.
Otherwise, we'll end up handling the red flags in isolation, without necessarily connecting the dots, and that may leave some garbage untouched.
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9:37 PM
@CodyGray so, basically, "Mod flag if you think the behavior is serial and chronic, let us investigate and handle"?
 
Cool. That was my reasoning, but I wanted to make sure. Mods already have it hard enough without dummkopfs tripling their workload
 
@ThomasWard I guess. I don't really like making blanket rules.
I mean, I can't argue with anything you said there, but I don't necessarily want to enshrine that as policy.
 
@CodyGray nor i unless it's obvious :P
 
I'd rather the policy be to use your brain.
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like "Don't use swastikas in your profile avatars" :P
(I actually had to suspend someone for that a while ago)
 
9:39 PM
Yes, use the little gray cells
 
Well
 
oh
pun not intended
 
@ThomasWard What is wrong with swastikas? Left or right?
 
the 'bad' swastikas. Black, rotated like the Nazis had, sometimes accompanied by "Aryan Supremacy" or other words in there which are considered against sanity :p
but I digress
 
9:43 PM
Ah, yeah, so you did use your brain.
In somewhat related news, since you guys bullied me into doing some actual mod work, I'd like to take this opportunity to once again complain that the visited link color is almost indistinguishable from the unvisited link color.
 
wait...what?
 
@CodyGray Not for me. I use stylish. :p
 
I mod flagged the newest answers that looked like they could be deleted. He posts a lot of "me too" answers so he can work the blog link in
 
visited from the visited?
 
@CodyGray this makes no sense in the latter part of the setence why should a visited link color different for visited links?
 
9:45 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): do you know it can be of more fun finding your documents online? by muitjilli on academia.SE
 
Whistles. Dunno what you guys are talking about.
Four smart people, and none of you were able to read my mind? :-p
 
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I read every second word, so I actually understood it.
 
He means write a userscript :P
 
!!/watch- urgentrealdocumentprovider\.com
 
9:47 PM
@Das_Geek That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (172): Do I still need Google Ad Services' script if using Google Tag Manager? by Karen Renee on webmasters.SE
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body, potentially bad keyword in body, blacklisted user (73): share some beautiful thoughts with travel lovers? by muitjilli on academia.SE
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10:01 PM
@CodyGray i looked in your mind. It was just a void of white light filled with screaming constantly with no end in sight, so I stopped looking in your brain :P
;)
 
You have no idea how apt that description is on today, of all days.
Especially the "screaming constantly".
 
10:19 PM
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): Compactos technology in win10 by webtax on superuser.com
 
10:48 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, potentially bad keyword in body (199): Inauguration Day trump Shirts by Maria W Long on superuser.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in url answer (65): What is causing my line offset problem in Github's diff? by Dennis K on stackoverflow.com
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!!/watch- ncaaf-championship-live\.blogspot
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title (2): Rape video on phone by pookiepie on law.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Where is the scam in a "giveaway" in Oxford Circus, London? by George on money.SE
 
11:29 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): How to access an array in jquery ✏️ by Josh on stackoverflow.com
 
11:40 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): grub2 is booting from the wrong drive after cloning by Blai Peidro on askubuntu.com
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