@Makyen 'msystraining.com' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.
@Makyen That pattern looks like it's already caught by Blacklisted website in answer and Blacklisted website in body; append -force if you really want to do that.
> Blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title ---------- Blacklisted website in body - Position 8-16: ning.com Blacklisted website in title - Position 8-16: ning.com
@Makyen That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.
@Makyen That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer and Pattern-matching website in body; append -force if you really want to do that.
@JohannesKuhn True. At that point in the morning, you have to decide if it's better to get some sleep and wake up late in the day, or just push on through. Nobody other than yourself can really advise you. People tend to respond differently to staying up all night. Some thrive on it, some just can't do it. So... it depends. :-)
@JohannesKuhn That's going to depend on if it is found in a title, question or answer. The "weight" for each detection reason is the percentage of posts which the reason has detected which are TP. You can look through the reasons with the weight listed here.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +7 more (792): awaretalks.com/velofel-nz/ by lairshnations on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, body starts with title and ends in url, link at end of body, +5 more (788): Bandox Extreme Male Enhancement by cillabodar on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching product name in title, +1 more (485): Keto Power Slim How Does It Work? by Keto Power Slim on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected, potentially bad keyword in body, toxic body detected (105): this site sucks ✏️ by user17905 on earthscience.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, +4 more (592): How To Take Tone Keto AVIS Pills by Lhdmpsox on puzzling.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more (590): www.thesanofi.com/tevida/ by jakistamo on wordpress.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching product name in title, +3 more (591): Control X Keto:Weight Loss Pills by JohnRamirez02 on superuser.com
tp feedback received
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, body starts with title and ends in url, pattern-matching website in body, +7 more (596): www.factforfitness.com/viga-plus-france/ by sfghmjku on puzzling.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, luncheon meat detected, mostly punctuation marks in body (160): Removdered iguana yes ✏️ by orenog on stackoverflow.com
The first and last sentence need to be edited out (the youtube link could be added at the end).
Those new users makes it really hard for me: linking to their youtube video (that might be moneytised) and adding a plea for "please accept my answer" at the end makes me miss the rest of the post.
@JohannesKuhn I agree that they were spam. The user posted 6 of them, all of them about their product. OTOH, all the questions which I looked at were actually asking for a way to do what the OP's product does, so the information was requested. The primary issues were that the user didn't disclose their ownership and that they were over-promoting (i.e. only here to promote). Perhaps the moderator just didn't want to apply the penalties that result from the user getting confirmed spam flags.
@JohannesKuhn Yes, relevant spam can sometimes be useful. I mean, if someone is asking for a tool to do foo, and the user posts their own tool as an answer which is otherwise useful and wouldn't be considered spam were it not their own tool, then it is often better to contact the user and explain the requirement for disclosure.
Simply deleting the answer only deprives the site of useful content and spam-banning the user could also just deprive the community of a possibly useful contributor. Having the authors of useful tools active on a site is a good thing.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more (687): health-body.org/tevida/ by user175492 on wordpress.SE
@JohannesKuhn I'm not saying it isn't spam by the definition of spam used on SE, I'm only saying that often, it is better to educate the user instead of hitting them with a spam ban.
@SmokeDetector Do spammers really think it makes it harder to detect something as spam if you capitalize all occurrences of a single letter (e.g. A in this case)?
Are the spelling and grammar mistakes in phishing emails done on purpose? Is there some wisdom behind it? Or they are simply indicative of the fact that they've been written by someone who does not natively speak English?
@Makyen if I spam-delete a post that was flagged by smokey, does that send a tp signal back?
I mean, if I delete it as a mod on the target site by either destroying the user as a spammer (which spam deletes the post) or by flagging it as spam (which does the same).
@terdon No. MS does track if the post is deleted, for a period of time. It will also check to see if the user still exists. However, neither of those are translated into feedback. Unfortunately, the SE API gives no information on deleted posts, other than the availability to submit custom mod-flags. Thus, there's no way to get any information about why a post was deleted (e.g. by spam flags/Community, review, moderator, user).
@terdon Yes, that is quite helpful. If you want, the alpha version of SOCVR's request generator will add a button under each post that will open a popup from which you can generate a !!/report (and several other SD commands). You'll want to go into the options for that script (from the popup) and set the options:
On sites not specifically configured in this script, use Charcoal HQ as default & show only SD Reports/spam report options. and Always send SD commands to Charcoal HQ.
I believe that Advanced Flagging also will report to SD, but I don't think that it will do so such that it will be effective for a moderator (i.e. there won't be a long enough delay between the report request and the spam flag that deletes the post). However, I have not looked closely at the code for that userscript, so I'm not certain about that.
Note: the alpha version of SOCVR's request generator does not work with Greasemonkey 4, but works in all other browser & userscript manager combinations.
@terdon We appreciate you reporting them here, but I don't want to make lots of extra work for you (e.g. manual reports). While it's very good to get as many reports/examples of the spam as we can, the most important thing is that we get enough information so we can detect simillar spam if it's seen again. Most commonly, that's domain names, email addresses, phone numbers, and the user/username. However, other characteristics of the spam are quite helpful to know (i.e. an actual `!!/report).
I'm sorry to hear that some userscripts are interfering with things. If it's any of the userscripts which I work on (e.g. SOCVR's and Charcoal's), I'd like to know about the issues so they can be resolved.
Are the spelling and grammar mistakes in phishing emails done on purpose? Is there some wisdom behind it? Or they are simply indicative of the fact that they've been written by someone who does not natively speak English?
