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10:06 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: biotestosteronexrtry.com/alpha-testo-gain-finland/ by Denv cots on codegolf.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: biotestosteronexrtry.com/alpha-testo-gain-finland/ by Denv cots on codegolf.SE (@Mego @quartata)
tpu- by PeterJ
tpu- by PeterJ
 
!!/location
 
@Glorfindel Mithrandir/Alqualondë
@Glorfindel teward/Solar Flare
 
!!/standby Mithrandir
 
Mithrandir/Alqualondë is switching to standby
 
@Mithrandir your Smokey has gone haywire again ...
 
10:07 AM
tpu- by PeterJ
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Take dynamic part in digestion. by Weland19 Virk on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by PeterJ
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: www.thegarciniaeliteslim.com/prime-energy-garcinia/ by LaurWaggon on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Cai
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: In a zone what altogether issues by Wongeste1978 on askubuntu.com
tpu- by J F
 
10:25 AM
!!/blacklist-website garciniaresearches\.com
 
@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in body, Bad keyword in body, Bad keyword in answer, and Pattern-matching website in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.
 
!!/blacklist-keyword prime\W?energy
 
@tripleee Blacklisted prime\W?energy
Restart: API quota is 10456.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Advantages while utilizing these drops… by Weland19 Virk on superuser.com
tpu- by J F
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Best? The best outcome for men by user281923 on apple.SE
tpu- by J F
 
@Glorfindel I'll just kill it.
 
with FIRE?
 
10:37 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: It is the blew unsound of the water by Dery reer on drupal.SE
tpu- by J F
 
A J
@Glorfindel Well, fire kills everything. At least. ;)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: How do I reduce .pdf file sizes? by SKOTechLearn on graphicdesign.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: maleenhancementpatchs.com/alpha-testo-gain-de/ by user79222 on codegolf.SE (@Mego @quartata)
tpu- by J F
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Misleading link: How to create commercial Facebook page by Palash Pradeep Mohane on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector k for once
 
@SmokeDetector very misleading
 
So I just got an email reminding me that GSoC is a thing
 
10:49 AM
@ArtOfCode GSoC?
 
summer of code
 
By Google
 
What would y'all think about us being a mentor organization next year?
 
The thing where you applied?
 
Undo did it once
 
10:50 AM
@ArtOfCode what exactly is a mentor org?
 
@ArtOfCode that's actually an interesting thought
 
@ArtOfCode depends on what that entails
 
Do we assign an issue or do they pick something to work on?
 
We don't have a budget to pay people, for one
 
10:51 AM
Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1
 
@Magisch that's what Google does
 
TL;DR: Students apply to spend the summer working with us. We can have a few suggestions for projects, but students figure out what they want to do and submit project proposals to us. We review 'em and pick the students we want to work with (I'd imagine no more than 3, for us). We spend a summer mentoring them through their projects.
 
IIRC it's something like 3 grand
 
Specifically, we assign mentors - so one person would be responsible for mentoring each student.
 
@ArtOfCode doesn't that sort of require a set organizational structure?
 
10:52 AM
We've got enough of one
 
We're more of a pile of people with vaguely common interests
 
We can vote together
@SmokeDetector n
 
Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1
 
@SmokeDetector sush, there isn't much we can do
 
Uh, in which months is this? I've got summer holidays in April and May.
 
10:53 AM
@ArtOfCode If you can find enough charcoalers willing to do that, I guess it could be nice
 
@AshishAhuja nice timeline here: summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works
 
@AshishAhuja Organisation applications in January, finishes end of summer (August-ish)
 
@angussidney thanks!
 
It doesn't need all of us here for all of it, but mentors and the org admin need to be around most of the time.
 
So we've missed out for this year
 
10:55 AM
Aye
 
Does that timeline say AUS timezones for everyone, or is Google trying to assume my location?
 
I'm sure we've got enough vague ideas between us to turn into project suggestions
@angussidney Google is figuring your location. UK times for me.
 
So timezonist
 
@ArtOfCode So it'd require you or undo to have a semi-free schedule for a while, and one or two mentors
 
Aye. Admin can also mentor, but that does need more time.
 
10:56 AM
> All dates are in your local timezone
That would have been good at the top
 
@ArtOfCode oh well, that's a long time away then for next year.
 
yup
 
Wow, in Australia we get the maximum reward of US$6600 for completing the SoC
AU$8580
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, +5 more: getnutritionshelp.com/fxx-me/ by veswtnfxc on askubuntu.com
tpu- by PeterJ
 
@angussidney yup, likewise for me. About £5000
 
The annoying thing about buying stuff online in Australia is that everything seems cheap, until you get to the checkout and realise that the roughly 30% extra from the exchange rate gets added in
 
A wild @Mithrandir Smokey instance appeared
 
!!/location
 
@angussidney teward/Solar Flare
tpu- by PeterJ
 
@Henders I killed it last time that happened. I've got no idea why it was doing that. Nothing in the terminal is revealing.
 
11:05 AM
tpu by Zanna
 
> Organizations in good standing will receive 500 USD per accepted student at the end of the program
> Organizations are free to use these funds as they wish.
 
T-shirts anyone?
:P
 
fp- by tripleee
 
!!/watch jstbusiness\.com
 
11:07 AM
@tripleee Added jstbusiness\.com to watchlist
CI on 8199985 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
 
@angussidney Just cut out the middle man and bring out a full range of Charcoal branded clothing :p
 
Restart: API quota is 10036.
 
> Some organizations choose to assign more than one mentor to each of their students
> Many members of the community provide guidance to their project’s GSoC students without mentoring in an “official” capacity, much as they would answer anyone’s questions
That's good to hear
 
Aye. It's basically what we already do with new contributors, with slightly more structure - one or two people are specifically keeping an eye out for them.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Instagram alternative for iPad by michael tom on apple.SE
 
11:11 AM
@Henders it's coming, it's coming :P
 
tpu- by tripleee
tpu by Zanna
 
@ArtOfCode I don't know about others, but I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable mentoring on my own
Not saying that I should, there are many people in here who are way more talented than me and deserve the privilege to do so :)
 
@angussidney It's not going to be in a vacuum. It'll be in here like everything else is - you're the named person who fills in forms, but you might have a secondary mentor helping, and you'll always have everyone in here available to throw a few words in.
Quick show of hands: would anyone here be interested in mentoring?
 
It's for 18+, though - doesn't that disqualify a lot of people here?
;)
 
I'm in but it depends a lot on timetables, vacations etc
 
11:14 AM
Anyway, it might be worth chucking an issue in the repo at some point, have a think about it together
 
@angussidney or Teams, mind
 
@ArtOfCode maybe in a secondary role
 
Restart: API quota is 9984.
 
@tripleee Good use-case for teams, actually
 
11:14 AM
the difference between "somebody walks in here and starts asking questions" and "we are committed to answering" can be stark
 
@Mithrandir sshhhhh. Nobody needs to know.
 
@tripleee eh, shouldn't our main discussions say public on GH?
 
@ArtOfCode oh, so like if you're under 13 on SE? I'm in :P
 
@Mithrandir Act like an adult and you'll probably get away with it. I haven't found anything saying they ask for ID.
 
11:16 AM
CI on a380ca5 succeeded.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the org admin has to sign something
Especially when money is involved
 
That works. I don't think I've managed to convince @Magisch that I'm not in my twenties yet.
 
@angussidney I agree in principle but Teams is working very well and apparently we can arrange for people who are interested to participate
I do agree that it creates a barrier which ideally should not be there
 
CI on 577ee51 succeeded.
tpu- by tripleee
 
11:17 AM
@angussidney Sure, but anyone doing admin and/or money can be over 18, that's not an issue
 
Exactly
 
I'll throw it on teams and pin a link to it here... we can always copy it across if necessary
 
So, re: my instance, does anyone have any ideas why it would randomly drop out of standby with no commands or anything?
 
my experience here is that we are actually pretty good at answering random questions even compared to some organizations where there is ostensible commitment for somebody to act as a mentor, actually
 
More often than not the questions we get are due to historical/design quirks in the code rather than actual problems
 
11:22 AM
!!/watch proantivirus\.co\.uk
 
@tripleee Added proantivirus\.co\.uk to watchlist
 
@Mithrandir how’s the network connection? Reliable?
Bad network does weird things
 
A J
@angussidney ?
 
!!/watch getmyfollowers\.org
 
@tripleee Added getmyfollowers\.org to watchlist
 
11:23 AM
@AJ if Google gives us $500 for mentoring a student
 
@angussidney it's connected via Ethernet to my main laptop that's connected to WiFi, and my laptop doesn't usually drop the connection. It's possible but it's been fairly reliable the last bit.
 
Restart: API quota is 9881.
 
"doesn't usually drop the connection" as measured how exactly? small glitches are normal on wifi and you don't notice them much if you are just surfing web pages
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: getnutritionshelp.com/fxx-me/ by veswtnfxc on apple.SE
tpu- by tripleee
 
@tripleee hmm, it could be that I'm just not noticing anything
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: The all finished town factor makes an outstanding idea available in proficient sum. by Seensled19 Virk on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by PeterJ
 
Do you think staged blacklist is a good idea?
I.e., "Blacklist Level 1", "Blacklist Level 2", etc...
I think 2 levels would be very handy and enough.
 
Like... the watchlist and the blacklist?
 
What Mith said
 
Nope, another layer above the blacklist.
 
11:39 AM
sounds like overkill
 
What would the benefits be @iBug ?
 
We can "L2 black" sites with "known to be absolutely zero" reason to appear in a legitimate post.
 
I mean, I toyed with the idea of having a "pharma site" and "pharma product" reason, but... meh.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: "No", by up to this time let me burst by Tived1940 on askubuntu.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
11:41 AM
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@ArtOfCode Mentors would have to be SD programmers right?
So people who can code and review code
 
Not necessarily Smokey developers, but they do need to be developers
Knowledge of Smokey's codebase is a plus
 
I would tentatively volunteer then
tentatively because it's over a year out so something might happen until then
 
Aye, that's fair enough
 
So I'm out :P
 
11:46 AM
Keep me in the loop, too
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: It deals with the testosterone by Inks reer on drupal.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
I know Smokey's codebase okayish but I'm not a developer by any stretch.
 
12:02 PM
I know Smokey's codebase okayish but I'm not a Python developer by any stretch.
 
Restart: API quota is 18458.
 
@rene sure? They have some activity elsewhere in the network ...
 
12:05 PM
!!/location
 
@Glorfindel teward/Solar Flare
@Glorfindel Mithrandir/Alqualondë
 
!!/standby Mithrandir
 
@Glorfindel the two links go to a paysite/downliad tool page
nothing to do with the question they ask
 
@Mithrandir You could be a secondary mentor, I suspect
Gonna say primary mentors need to be developers because they're going to have to code review at some point... but secondaries are backups and won't necessarily need to (and can call in someone else if they do)
 
@Glorfindel I just killed it again
 
12:08 PM
Oh, and since people have been prodding me... Charcoal has a swag store now.
15
 
> Sorry, no products found.
:(
 
@ArtOfCode A redirect like charcoal-se.org/store would be cool
 
@WELZ huh? There should be 4 there
@CalvT븃 done
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Being a trademark by lezonama on apple.SE
 
no products found here either
 
12:11 PM
tpu- by John Dvorak
 
bah
 
@ArtOfCode heard that one before :P
 
[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 137a3d0: The Travis CI build passed
 
@WELZ you american nationalist you
^ said in jest of course
 
yeah, I dunno why they're not showing up... they're all set to public AFAICT
 
12:15 PM
@CalvT븃 look at my avatar :D
 
Ya, I'm not getting any products showing up either
 
@WELZ Twas the reason for the comment :P
 
Ha. There we go. It's buggy, but I made 'em show up.
 
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: order4healthsupplement.com/mega-boost-intense-xl/? by RobertoBigelow on apple.SE
tpu- by CalvT븃
 
(Yes, there aren't many things there right now, yes, I can add more if you tell me what I should add)
 
12:23 PM
Still got 'no products found'. Guess there's some caching?
 
Same here (even in incognito)
 
I've got them
 
Are you modelling the t-shirt, @ArtOfCode? :P
 
Nope :P
 
12:28 PM
I like the mugs!
Ha! You can opt to view it with donuts :P
 
Still nothing for me... I'll try when I'm not on mobile
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in link text in answer, blacklisted website in answer: Sendmail - I/O error "Premature EOM" in maillogs by appple router on unix.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@art I like the t-shirt the way I made it (Or with the charcoal logo bigger)
 
What other stuff can you get? I feel like there needs to be one very bizarre option on there like 'Charcoal Salt & Pepper Shakers' that just have 'C' on both.
3
or 'Charcoal BBQ Tools'
 
Charcoal undies, to keep your junk protected :$
Charcoal branded bags of charcoal
 
12:36 PM
!!/blacklist-username techelpp‭
 
@Glorfindel Blacklisted techelpp‭
 
!!/blacklist-username \W?router$
 
@Glorfindel Blacklisted \W?router$
 
anything that starts or ends with optional might as well not
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: order4healthsupplement.com/mega-boost-intense-xl/ by PatriciaMorran on apple.SE
Restart: API quota is 9054.
 
12:38 PM
though of course something like product(?:\W?xl)? is useful if it requires word boundaries (because "productxl" will not match without the optional part then)
 
@tripleee oh, of course. It's just that I automatically type ? after \W because of hanging around here too much
 
and also I have added some blacklist entries where I want to capture the whole product name when it's present, just because it improves Halflife's behavior ... but that should probably be fixed on the Halflife side actually
 
Ah well, it will now match this spammer as well.
 
@Glorfindel (-:
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Find the parent of a javascript tree object array by wm123450405 on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: How to get application for application event log by Jasoren on serverfault.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
12:45 PM
!!/watch jasoren\.com
 
@Glorfindel Added jasoren\.com to watchlist
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: it according to the required time by Nancosesboyz on superuser.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
CI on 769811e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 769811e (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of jasoren\.com by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)
Restart: API quota is 8955.
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on 5fbc1d9: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
fp- by Glorfindel
 
Misleading link is not performing very well... weight of 5
12 tps for 162 fps
 
charcoal branded bags of charcoal sound nice
 
@CalvT븃 it's because we need to whitelist imgur and github
 
New metasmoke user 'BlackICE' created
 
JAD
12:58 PM
@WELZ whitelisting github might be troublesome
 
My dumb question about the election url on meta.so is now my highest scoring ¦D
 

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