Charcoal HQ

Is 5 flag autoflagging officially on now?

tpu by JAD

@Magisch Undo turned off the experiment (i.e. reverted it to 3), but it hasn't been deployed yet, so nothing has changed since the meta post

Just for some reason we've only gotten 5s, 3s and 1s for the past couple of pages

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer: Sound card freezing on fresh install of Windows 10 by Outlook PST Repair on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: greenlifenutrition.org/emior-skin/ by user806217 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Magisch

@SmokeDetector opinions?

10:07 AM

@JAD investigating

tis' a tech support scam

tpu- by Magisch on Sound card freezing on fresh install of Windows 10 [MS]

!!/watch-website fixwindowserrors\.biz

@Magisch No such command 'watch-website'.

!!/watch fixwindowserrors\.biz -force

@Magisch That pattern looks like it's already caught by Bad ns for domain in body and Bad ns for domain in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

:43420105 That pattern looks like it's already caught by Bad ns for domain in body and Bad ns for domain in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

10:09 AM

this isn't working as expected

watch-force

!!/watch-force fixwindowserrors\.biz

I've gotten so rusty with the commands because triplee always snipes me with these

:D

Did I kill smokey with that watch?

!!/tea

10:10 AM

@JAD brews a cup of lemon tea for @JAD

!!/alive

!!/alive

@tripleee plz send teh coffee

@Magisch You doubt me?

@Magisch clearly a good question (-:

that's a way to get it rate limited

10:10 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Are there any side effects? by Oweig 19 on workplace.SE

I'd use a different one to check.

!!/blame

@Magisch oh pardon me (-:

@AJ It's grgarside's fault.

tpu- by A J

@SmokeDetector k

!!/watch greenlifenutrition\.org

10:11 AM

@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer, Bad ns for domain in body, Bad ns for domain in answer, and Pattern-matching website in body; append -force if you really want to do that.

@angussidney I've seen a bunch of 2's yesterday

@tripleee tis' true every time I think "I should investigate if we should watch that" or blacklist that you'Ve already done it

usually before I even think that

in Charcoal Test, yesterday, by tripleee

@pulse notify [23]/3

^ strong hint for how to get an alert when something gets to blacklistable

I deployed that feature yesterday

it would be nice if Halflife was smarter about what is actually already blacklisted but it doesn't give me a crazy amount of false positives

... so far at least

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Java ArrayList implementation by Rammy on stackoverflow.com

For some reason my firefox won't open dropdowns no more

It's really annoying

10:15 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Java ArrayList implementation by Rammy on stackoverflow.com

!!/location

fp- by Tinkeringbell on Java ArrayList implementation [MS]

@micsthepick Henders/EC2

was that an edit?

fp- by A J

sd 2- 2f

10:16 AM

[:43420269] <skipped>
[:43420265] <skipped>
[:43420258] That message is not a report.
[:43420251] <processed without return value>

@micsthepick yup

@SmokeDetector this post?

@SmokeDetector ignore

@SmokeDetector f

@tripleee Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

10:17 AM

@micsthepick no. another same post

@AJ wait, what?

??

@tripleee yes

@AJ oh duh, my bad

look closely

10:19 AM

indeed it is

two answers to the same question ... that's a new one

Does that mean anything for feedback?

the answers are not same though, but yeah that user posted two answers.

it's not spam so in that sense still FP but probably flaggable for other reasons

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, +5 more: web @>>>www.supplementmakehealthy.org/nitronemax/ by jimmieqjerry on superuser.com

tpu- by A J

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: We finally get to Mars! But now there’s a threat of the aliens killing us all! How would this fight go? Who would win? by Cletus goodfeller on worldbuilding.SE

tpu- by micsthepick

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, +2 more: Vivrax : \*Must\* Read Review Before Buy by Vivrax on askubuntu.com

10:24 AM

!!/watch f1krazy

tpu- by tripleee

@Magisch what happens when you try?

@tripleee Added f1krazy to watchlist

@tripleee hey! That's a user on the site.

@tripleee that's gonna generate fp's like heck

10:25 AM

@AJ yeah, I would expect other posts mentioning this person in the near future to also be potential vandalism

@tripleee Just check the comments on the other posts.

R/A?

@WELZ the dropdown is only outlined

@AJ yup

CI on 497d289 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

!!/allspam worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/users/48671/cletus-goodfeller

10:26 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 497d289 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of f1krazy by tripleee --autopull) (running on Henders/EC2)

stackexchange.com/search?q=f1krazy

@micsthepick seems unlikely, the previous hit was Sep 18

!!/report superuser.com/q/1303682/337631

Restart: API quota is 11505.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: OST to PST Converter Tool by Mark Ronson on superuser.com

Hmm

Nog Shine

10:27 AM

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector k

@tripleee see above stackexchange search

@Magisch have you tried clearing cookies and cache

tpu- by tripleee

!!/watch convertertools\.org

10:27 AM

@Glorfindel Added convertertools\.org to watchlist

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: We finally get to Mars! But now there’s a threat of the aliens killing us all! How would this fight go? Who would win? by Cletus goodfeller on worldbuilding.SE

@micsthepick yes, there are hits, and I expect there to be an FP eventually, at which point we should remove it from watch

@SmokeDetector rude

tpu- by PeterJ

this is one of those situations where it would be nice to be able to say !!/watch --expire=7days

@NogShine No it wasn't. It was still live when I reported it

10:28 AM

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

@SmokeDetector shut up you

Is Smokey broken? Why this command didn't work?

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev d710170 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of convertertools\.org by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on Henders/EC2)

maybe include that in the PR that also implements !!/unwatch 🤔...

@WELZ yes

10:29 AM

@AJ looks like it happened during a restart

Why smokey ignore my report?

Restart: API quota is 11468.

@AJ it did work

@DavidPostill Post 1: Could not find data for this post in the API. It may already have been deleted.

Nog Shine

@DavidPostill It is deleted before reporting.

10:29 AM

@DavidPostill because it's rate limited.

Restart: API quota is 1.

!!/watch convertertools\.org

@micsthepick please don't make this more confusing that it already is :)

@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in body and Potentially bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

Proposal: remove all MS websocket messages from the charcoal-test room (e.g. feedback, conflicting feedback, etc)

That may reduce the amount of rate-limiting that's happening these days

10:34 AM

@NogShine It wasn't deleted when I reported it

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +2 more: What are the active ingredients of EnduraFlex? by Fany 19 on superuser.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

@angussidney is the rate limiting chatserver-wide, or per room?

My current understanding is that it's per-chat-site

Let's test this

Nog Shine

@DavidPostill It was deleted before Smokey generated the report.

Interesting, the sandbox ones got rate limited but the charcoal-test ones wern't

10:38 AM

@NogShine Maybe, but we lost some spam data as a result. We should never lose data.

This time, the charcoal test ones got rate limited, but the sandbox ones didn't

Hmm, looks like I'm being limited in all of them

@DavidPostill yeah, Smokey not being able to post chat messages shouldn't influence the creation of a metasmoke record.

still alive

→ 6 messages moved to trash

is somebody remain to flag it?

JoErNanO

10:41 AM

!!/report travel.stackexchange.com/a/111250/22140

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Are there any baggage lockers at Amsterdam Zuid Station? by Jorn on travel.SE

tpu- by A J on Are there any baggage lockers at Amsterdam Zuid Station? [MS]

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

Conflicting feedback on Are there any baggage lockers at Amsterdam Zuid Station?.

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

Conflicting feedback on Are there any baggage lockers at Amsterdam Zuid Station?.

!!/feedback travel.stackexchange.com/a/111250/22140 k

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

Conflicting feedback on Are there any baggage lockers at Amsterdam Zuid Station?.

JoErNanO

Conflicting feedback?

!!/watch arysontechnologies\.com

10:43 AM

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

@JoErNanO metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/posts/by-url?url=//…

tpu by Glorfindel on Export Email from Thunderbird to Microsoft Outlook [MS]

Ashish Ahuja

@AJ gone

@Glorfindel Added arysontechnologies\.com to watchlist

@SmokeDetector k

10:43 AM

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 7301e80 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of arysontechnologies\.com by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on Henders/EC2)

Restart: API quota is 11334.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: www.hairlosspropecia.org/nitridex/ by Arinue1960 on askubuntu.com

@SmokeDetector k

tpu- by PeterJ

@SmokeDetector tpu-

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: How to hide login form after login by test on stackoverflow.com

naa- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Exercise Up To Weight Loss by eithurphy on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: By before, we simultaneously and by Antou erip on drupal.SE

Merged SmokeDetector #1729.

Restart: API quota is 11285.

Nisse Engström

@SmokeDetector tpu-

10:53 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, +2 more: All the circling factors gat what is coming the eye of nitridex in the toughness and metal ball showcase. by Thish19 Virk on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by WELZ

Nisse Engström

@SmokeDetector tpu-

^ 4 autoflags

tpu by Magisch on Are there any baggage lockers at Amsterdam Zuid Station? [MS]

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

tpu- by DavidPostill on How to hide login form after login [MS]

!!/blame

@AJ It's thesecretmaster's fault.

10:56 AM

> Life is complex – it has both real and imaginary parts.

> Life is not hard, but it is made hard by people around you.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: exerc Vivrax e and your frame by pjsupbggu on askubuntu.com

tpu- by A J

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Attach webcam to android tablet, is it possible? by Anees masudi on android.SE

sd k

!!/watch appexperts\.ae

tpu- by A J

tpu- by Glorfindel

@Glorfindel Added appexperts\.ae to watchlist

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 04461fa (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of appexperts\.ae by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on Henders/EC2)

Restart: API quota is 11148.

@SmokeDetector still alive why it is?

11:10 AM

Because it has only two spam flags and a downvote.

yeah I can see that. :P

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Turmeric Forskolin by Turmeric Forskolin on askubuntu.com

tpu- by A J

I had to talk with Smokey in Yoda's style.

Can I get someone's network profile If I have only a link to their one profile without moderator privileges?

@AJ via SEDE.

Got any query for that?

11:16 AM

SELECT AccountId FROM Users WHERE Id = 12345 will work.

Plug the result in this URL: https://stackexchange.com/users/54321

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: testosteronesboosterweb.com/testro-t3/ by user79027 on codegolf.SE (@quartata @HyperNeutrino @Riker)

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: How can I add a wireless router to a wired router? by Asad Ali on superuser.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: The Vivrax Vivrax the purpose by pjsupbggu on apple.SE

tpu- by Tinkeringbell

Processed Meat

0

Q: How to Report a User

Every once in a while we get a question about how to report a bad user to the admins. Sometimes it's a spammer, sometimes it's a troll, sometimes it's just someone who had a momentary blip in the "socially acceptable" filter. But my Question is How to report one User he is always performing to ...

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body: copyhere doesn't respect overwrite parameter in VBA by Gianluca Testa on stackoverflow.com

fp- by PeterJ

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, +2 more: stanafiltry.com/keto-trim-diet/ by uykuuyku on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Tinkeringbell

@Glorfindel Thanks. :)

Currently I log in SEDE using Login With StackExchange. Do I need to change login method given that OpenID is going to be discontinued?

This bit was missed when we did our analysis. We will need to make a change here, but I don't have details at this time. We will post later on how SEDE login will change. — Joe Friend ♦ Mar 6 at 18:13

11:30 AM

So, I don't do anything to change login method right now?

You can, but you don't need to because they'll fix it in 6-8 somethings.

!!/watch appexperts\.ae

@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.

@SmokeDetector needs more flags

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: healthonlinereviews.com/vidhigra/ by kevinowni on meta.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

11:37 AM

!!/test lockerpoint.com

> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-16: lockerpoint.com
Body - Position 1-16: lockerpoint.com
Username - Position 1-16: lockerpoint.com

Time to change some of these feedbacks?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, blacklisted website in answer: How to network two Ubuntu computers using ethernet (without a router)? by Asad Ali on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body: The grub GUI has got messed up. How can I reset it? by Debdipta Halder on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Glorfindel on How to network two Ubuntu computers using ethernet (without a router)? [MS]

@SmokeDetector f

fp- by ArtOfCode

11:45 AM

@WELZ WhaT?

It's clearly the same user that keeps on trying to promote that service (for whatever reason)

@SmokeDetector k

Conflicting feedback on Are there any baggage lockers at Amsterdam Zuid Station?.

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector tpu-

11:48 AM

Conflicting feedback on Are there any baggage lockers at Amsterdam Zuid Station?.

who's System?

the system :P

@WELZ the same as Community on SE.

UID -1, useful for attributing automated stuff to

so if a user gave feedback and now no longer has an account, it'll be under system?

11:50 AM

No, that just gets deleted

most System feedbacks are duplicated feedbacks on old single-feedback posts

To prove how efficient we are at Charcoal... I still haven't gotten my swag from the WB17 Hats. which started weeks before our stickers did. (I already got my Charcoal stickers!)

:)

Apparently, I have two accounts on SEDE already that I didn't know.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body, +5 more: www.garciniacambogialean.com/nitridex-reviews by Glies1955 on askubuntu.com

sd k

11:54 AM

tpu- by Glorfindel

5 flags^

How do I get them merged?

data.stackexchange.com/users/24570/abhishek24571

data.stackexchange.com/users/25468/a-j

@ArtOfCode Are you planning to order new stickers as people buy them or do you have leftover stickers?

@Magisch he has leftover

(for now at least)

Yeah, I have leftovers. The cost is to pay for postage and to slowly build up a fund for the next lot.

11:59 AM

how much is postage to, say, US?

nobody got any idea?

@AJ use the 'contact us' link (that's the default answer, don't know if it applies to SEDE as well)

Ohh

Doesn't SEDE completely rely on OpenId for login?

It says Login with OpenID on top when you log in.

Thomas Ward

@quartata i wasnt feeling well the past 36 hours. whats up?

@AJ IDK, sorry.

12:05 PM

no problem

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: How to remove returnurl from url? by SDASDASAS on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in body: By mistake I have deleted my one email ID which was connected with my coc main ID I want it back by Anmol on gaming.SE

fp- by PeterJ

@Glorfindel Their contact us page is broken.

for me it directs do meta.stackexchange.com/contact-us

@Glorfindel no. upon form submitting it gives error

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Export image urls in dropbox by Alok Paul on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Tinkeringbell

naa- by Glorfindel

12:17 PM

(it probably answers the question and has some kind of disclosure)

@Glorfindel Hmm....

@ArtOfCode You could keep the rest of the money from this lot for that too then, right?

okay, but I still find it spammy as in I get to see unwanted ads :P

Guess I still need practice

@AJ various contact-us links on stackexchange ultimately seem to redirect to stackoverflow.com/… -- notice the referrer

you might want to just manually change that and proceed

meta.stackexchange.com/contact

12:21 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in answer: Reading A Text File To Array List by sda on stackoverflow.com

naa- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Use Google Assistant to directly talk to my Android app and execute a very simple task by Guilherme Maciel on stackoverflow.com

fp- by tripleee

maybe naa?

uh, looks like a link-only answer

@Tinkeringbell well, there was a moderator on SO who agreed with the spam flags.

@Magisch Aye, could do

@tripleee same thing here

12:26 PM

@Glorfindel Oh darn... I think I forgot to retract that one...

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: investigated on the web. Would by Imser erip on drupal.SE

@AJ so is all of their contact-us broken?

tpu- by Glorfindel

@Tinkeringbell well, it's probably marked as helpful.

@tripleee yeah I have tried on 3 sites till now. all result in same.

12:27 PM

@Glorfindel Yeah, I know... but I'd have to keep that in mind for the next time I'll inevitably mess up ;)

tpu- by DavidPostill on Export image urls in dropbox [MS]

@AJ I successfully submitted a form from the SO "contact us" form, with "Other" in the dropdown

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: www.healthoffersreview.info/optigen-iq-opinioni/ by shanozte on 3dprinting.SE

tpu- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Short stories about reversible assassinations as practical jokes by jeff on scifi.SE (@Mithrandir)

naa- by tripleee

@tripleee Thanks for submitting that.

@AJ sure

Q: Contact Us page breaks after submitting the form

12:33 PM

@tripleee I don't know why I am getting that issue.

1

Recently, I reached Contact Us page regarding merging accounts. However, when I fill all required details and submit the form, it says, I have tried the same on Stack Overflow and Movies & TV and all result in the same error. What's the issue here?

support bug contact

@AJ could be some part of the routing which is broken, so that only "Other" works or something ...

oh

Hey @ArtOfCode, should I be reaching out to you and/or someone else about setting up a Charcoal email for the Channel?

pure speculation, I sort of expected "Other" to fail too

oh nvm, I misunderstood

@doppelgreener use doppelgreener@channel-verify.erwaysoftware.com

12:41 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: Exchange mailbox size larger on Server than on Client by meg rittgers on serverfault.com

fp- by A J

!!/test aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/23037/…

> Url in title
----------
Title - Position 1-35: https://aviation.stackexchange.com

!!/check aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/23037/…

@Federico No such command 'check'.

oh darn

!!/report aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/23037/…

12:46 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Which airports have the highest fuel upload? by Vladislav Yakov on aviation.SE

sd k

@SmokeDetector the command is "scan"

!!/scan aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/23037/…

@AJ Cannot find data for this post in the API. It may have already been deleted.

!!/test neftegazagent

12:47 PM

> Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-14: neftegazagent
Body - Position 1-14: neftegazagent
Username - Position 1-14: neftegazagent

!!/test neftegazagent

> Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-14: neftegazagent
Body - Position 1-14: neftegazagent
Username - Position 1-14: neftegazagent

the MS record for the manually reported post already has the details

@ArtOfCode ok. :)

@AJ ah, it was scan I was looking for

12:48 PM

@Federico or !!/checkpost

!!/checkpost 123

@WELZ That does not look like a valid post URL.

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/110340 <- iBug implemented this recently, the record includes the reasons which would have triggered

@Federico or checkpost

@doppelgreener Your Channels join link: stackoverflow.com/c/charcoal/join/…

@SmokeDetector oh that's clever (-:

12:52 PM

wtf, how do I change my display name in Channels...

@doppelgreener your regular profile page should now have a switch near the top where you can switch between "Public" and "Charcoal" and presumably change things on one without affecting the other

:fingers crossed: