Charcoal HQ

I'm sure there's a button somewhere to require review on pull requests

Kyll

10:17 PM

@angussidney Indeed yeah, the write rights was mainly to update the blacklist

angussidney

I still use my code access for other stuff regularly, so I'll keep my access if the rest of you are fine with that

team pruned

Which one's Kyll?

angussidney

What do you mean, 'which one'?

aralun

already gone

10:21 PM

@angussidney trying to find his GH username

Wouldn't have guessed that for a long time

angussidney

You could have had a look at the profile pics :)

Kyll

... Or ask me, really =p

@SmokeDetector Maybe a false positive?

@Kyll Ohai!

Kyll

Plop!

> A last means that in this case? Tell me please. This link is not entirely clear: preply.com/question/chto-oznachaet-last

10:22 PM

@SmokeDetector f

@NobodyNada Looks like an NAA

sd n

yeah

the link seems to confirm it

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How do I test my connection to a given site? by timfredo on superuser.com

@Undo have you got time to set up weighting now?

@SmokeDetector doesn't answer the question, but could be an attempt

10:23 PM

@ArtOfCode Next window is probably in about an hour, need to do some Physics labs

if you want to, go for it

If there's anything I can help with, I can in about an hour

I don't know Ruby though

@Undo I was debating whether I had time, but probably not

@NobodyNada that's probably a limiting factor, really

given that the entire thing is Ruby

well

@NobodyNada Art didn't either until... what, a few months ago?

I learned Ruby on a consulting project. It's really not that hard.

@Undo look up my first MS commit, and I learned it about a week before that

mid-January this year

I could git clone MS and try to figure it out

10:26 PM

@NobodyNada Note that if you're on Windows, it's a little bit harder.

I'm on Mac

^

as in much harder

@NobodyNada oh, then it's fine. Clone away.

as in you need a Linux VM to be anywhere near productive

"a little bit"

I can walk you through getting it set up.

I wonder if it works without a db dump

10:27 PM

@Undo Yes, now that we have seeds

@ArtOfCode Oh, sweet. You've tested them from scratch?

the only thing that didn't before now was not having a SmokeDetector record, but you can seed that in now

@Undo yeah, once about a month ago

yay

should be able to git clone, bundle install, db:schema:load, db:migrate, db:seed and you're ready to go

I know how to do the git clone part, but that's about it :p

10:29 PM

@NobodyNada cd into the metasmoke directory

done

What's ruby --version say?

I forget what's bundled with OS X these days

ruby 2.0.0p648 (2015-12-16 revision 53162) [universal.x86_64-darwin16]

thanks for helping!

good enough, probably

I can update it with Homebrew

10:30 PM

actually, it requires 2.2.2+

naa- by DavidPostill

probably want 2.3.0

@NobodyNada I'd recommend using rvm instead, makes things a little cleaner

seems to be more stable than the 2.2.x series

rvm.io

gpg --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 409B6B1796C275462A1703113804BB82D39DC0E3

\curl -sSL https://get.rvm.io | bash -s stable --ruby=2.3.3

10:31 PM

installing, thanks!

(yes the backslash is significant)

no idea what it does, but things break if you don't include it

Stack Overflow says it prevents the command from being aliased

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Break inner foreach loop and continue outer foreach loop by Jeffrey Sall on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Undo

Calling that abusive/nonsense

Restart: API quota is 2449.

Ferrybig

10:38 PM

@Undo would installing ruby on rails be easier on windows 10, now that it comes with a subsystem for ubuntu? (its like a full blown ubuntu environment in windows, including sudo)

it failed to install it:

> There was an error while trying to resolve rubygems version for 'latest'.
Halting the installation.

> /Users/jonathan/.rvm/bin/rvm: line 66: shell_session_update: command not found
bash: line 850: shell_session_update: command not found

@NobodyNada What's the error?

whut

which is strange, since running shell_session_update works just fine in the terminal

What command did you run?

I'll try running the command again, and if that doesn't work I'll just use Homebrew.

\curl -sSL get.rvm.io | bash -s stable --ruby=2.3.3

10:40 PM

hrmph

Yeah, go ahead and just use Brew. Won't hurt anything

I just ran the installer again; it completed in about a second and it works now

@Ferrybig yes, if that's in production now

ruby -v:

ruby 2.3.3p222 (2016-11-21 revision 56859) [x86_64-darwin16]

dat'll work

gem install bundler next

done

10:41 PM

You have some kind of awesome Internet connection

@NobodyNada bundle install, it should fail for some reason

Always does, then we just track down what it wants

I dunno, worked first time for me when I did a fresh clone

@Undo I think it's being faster than it usually is right now

@ArtOfCode Yeah, you already had the Nokogiri dependencies and such installed

true

it says I need to install mysql; I'm doing that right now with Homebrew

10:45 PM

You're having a suspiciously smooth time of it

I think bundle install succeeded, but it gave me a bunch of information about Passenger and about configuration files

@NobodyNada About restarting it with touch?

You can ignore that stuff

yeah, that's what it is; thanks!

When you installed MySQL through Brew, did you follow up on mysql_secure_installation and such?

no; I didn't pay any attention

I probably should have

10:50 PM

There should be some instructions that Brew threw at you, follow those to get MySQL set up

(it's possible to just use SQLite, but MySQL works better)

Should I install "VALIDATE PASSWORD PLUGIN"?

@NobodyNada Never heard of it, but it probably wouldn't hurt

your choice, leaving it off is probably fine

okay, done

Did Brew give you a root password for it?

I set up a password

10:54 PM

kk

So now mysql -u root -p and it'll ask you for your password

ok

Once you're in, CREATE DATABASE metasmoke;

ok

Followed by CREATE USER 'metasmoke'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password';

Change password if you want, it doesn't matter much

k

10:56 PM

Then GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON 'metasmoke'.* TO 'metasmoke'@'localhost';

FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

> ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ''metasmoke'.* TO 'metasmoke'@'localhost'' at line 1

ugh

just a sec

GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `metasmoke`.* TO `metasmoke`@`localhost`;

perhaps

(backticks)

that worked; thank you!

Andy

Could all of these steps get put in the MS wiki ?

@Andy I think we're generating one right now

Andy

10:58 PM

Woot

@NobodyNada Now cntrl-d to exit MySQL

ok

Inside the metasmoke folder (cli):

cd config; cp database.sample.yml database.yml

Open database.yml in your editor of choice.

Replace the development: section with something like this:

development:
  adapter: mysql2
  database: metasmoke
  encoding: utf8
  username: metasmoke
  password: yourpass
  host: 127.0.0.1
  port: 3306

Replacing yourpass with... your password, of course

ok

Now, hypothetically, this should work:

In the metasmoke root, run:

Nope, not that (unless it worked, then it's fine)

rails db:create

rails db:seed

11:02 PM

that worked

you're gonna want schema:load in between those two @Undo

@ArtOfCode seed doesn't load it for you?

Let's test it. @NobodyNada rails c

not that I've noticed

Then ap Post.last

it gave me a console thing, after spitting out a warning:

/Users/jonathan/Desktop/Metasmoke/config/initializers/appconfig.rb:1: warning: already initialized constant AppConfig
/Users/jonathan/Desktop/Metasmoke/config/environments/development.rb:19: warning: previous definition of AppConfig was here
Loading development environment (Rails 5.0.0.1)
irb(main):001:0>

11:04 PM

yup

normal

ap Post.last in there

  Post Load (0.3ms)  SELECT  `posts`.* FROM `posts` ORDER BY `posts`.`id` DESC LIMIT 1
#<Post:0x007fc28b5ed170> {
                        :id => 1,
                     :title => "Test Post",
                      :body => "Test Post",
                      :link => "//stackoverflow.com/a/40291627",
        :post_creation_date => Thu, 15 Dec 2016 22:02:16 UTC +00:00,
                :created_at => Thu, 15 Dec 2016 23:02:16 UTC +00:00,
                :updated_at => Thu, 15 Dec 2016 23:02:16 UTC +00:00,

yeah, so it worked.

Sweet

great! thank you!

11:04 PM

rails s to start the webserver

(short for rails server, as c is short for console)

I'll start learning Ruby soon and start working on it

and you should have a functioning metasmoke on localhost:3000

I can't make any promises about how much I can do or if I can work on it at all, but if I have time and want to work on it, what would you like me to do?

And therein lies the issue :P

I don't know of any good beginnerish tasks we have

Maybe @Art does

hm

11:07 PM

Maybe I'll try to debug that issue that's open on GitHub

I don't have a populated database though

It's a database issue that has the ability to make you go completely nuts, but if you like you can play with it.

I tend to just ignore Unicode issues :)

@NobodyNada In that console, run Post.create(:body => "My name is jeff😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂") and it should repro.

they're like pluralization bugs, except Jeff will hit you with two giant S's because two-byte characters

@ArtOfCode four bytes :(

11:08 PM

lol

We handle two bytes fine. It's the four byte ones that get us

@Undo two two-bytes, actually

thanks for the help!

the emoji and the skin tone mod

No problem ;)

As a super-high-level overview of how Rails works: Models store data, controllers get that data in response to requests, then they pass it to views which render the data in a human-friendly way.

11:10 PM

so MVC then?

Yeah

yep

metasmoke is actually pretty complex these days... way more than the babby project it was when I started working on it

Scope creep ;)

Someone decided to go adding ignored users to it. I still don't know how that works :P

Works good, though

admin tools, feedback invalidation, deletion logs, ignoring feedback, read api, write api, roles, dev tools

all things that have happened this year

year's not over. Automatic flagging.

11:13 PM

@Undo it's not working at all at the moment, I don't think

Ignored users are the easy bit, anyway, you wait till someone makes you need to understand the API bitmasks

I think we have a bus factor of one on that

Oh hey, a Routemaster.

</london>

@Undo tl;dr: take ASCII characters in as the filter param, take their character ordinal, convert that to binary, concat the lot, and use that to represent which DB fields are "on" and should be returned

'character ordinal'

Sounds like something the Russians would use to hack an election

the DEC column in that

same as ord('c') in Python or 'c'.ord in Ruby

Huh

11:18 PM

so if you have filter = 'abcd' then you get 97, 98, 99, and 100 as the ordinals

convert those to binary and concat

you get 01100001011000100110001101100100

which means you should return the second, third, eighth and so on fields

you get to determine which those are, which is the purpose of the massive list in the AppConfig file

Our database is bigger than that and filter strings are a lot longer, but that's the general idea

11:31 PM

hrmph