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12:13 AM
@SmokeDetector spam
 
12:27 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: Delete item from array and shrink array by user6353628 on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
12:43 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: Eat Cake achievement Game Dev Tycoon? by Zombi on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
I first thought of flagging abusive, but in the context of Gaming they may be trying to ask something about zombies. shrug
 
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector k
translate: mejor los zombies?
(from Spanish) better the zombies?
@sandwich Doesn't seem to be a meaningful question anyway.
 
@SmokeDetector I think this one is OT/noMCVE, rather than spam
Hapless developers of E-commerce sites tend to post with "Y doesn't my site work"
 
12:47 AM
@Randal'Thor Maybe they're asking whether the zombie achievement is better? I have no clue...
 
@sandwich Ah, sorry. I saw the first line "My site: [URL]" and just assumed spam.
Which makes me no better than the bot, I suppose :-P
 
@hichris123 User removed from blacklist (6353629 on stackoverflow.com).
 
it feels spammy
 
@Yvette [:29749290] That message is not a report.
 
12:52 AM
@SmokeDetector f
 
This question felt more like spam to me, but the user has 8K on Stack Overflow...
 
@sandwich yeh, normally I'd say spam, i think he really wants to know
 
SELF ADVERTISING?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!! You did not even check the problem! — CheapCoolGifts 26 secs ago
Someone's a little aggravated... though I do think the links should've remained, there is no question now.
 
@hichris123 lol
@hichris123 meh, yes but, there was no code! LOL
 
Unfortunately, that's a decent number of questions each day...
 
12:58 AM
I know I'm a member of SOCVR team :/ <-- that's a grave face with a tearful eyeball
 
evening
poor poor spammer is hurt:/
 
:'(
 
@hichris123 he hasn't answered my comment from the beginning, so I refuse to doubt my stance even for a second
 
Well, it would help to be less assuming of spam (after all, SO gets a few of these each week), and to instruct the user if you are going to leave a comment...
 
I was initially on the fence. But when I saw the bunch of unclear CVs, I realized that there's virtually no information in the post other than "spam link 1, spam link 2, PS spam link 3"
 
1:02 AM
Generally, a link to an e-commerce site is not the same as "spam link".
 
I agree
 
Also, spammers don't usually read the Tour... stackoverflow.com/help/badges/2600/informed?userid=6353629
 
you want me to roll back the edits?
 
@Yvette OP can do that if they want to, in my opinion
@hichris123 OK, that's a good point
 
maybe I was quick, but I'm leaning with @AndrasDeak in the motives of the post.
 
1:04 AM
although they claim that SO helped them in the past, but this is a freshly registered user named as one of the sites linked
it just doesn't add up
 
@AndrasDeak People can be helped by SO posts without having signed up for an account there.
 
yes, I agree with that too
 
Tex.SE has helped me a lot in the past, but I never posted there and don't have an account there.
 
I myself lurked for a long time before registering, and I only registered for my first question
but due to reading a lot of valuable posts, my first question was informative and it was impossible to confuse it with noise
I'm not saying that I can't be wrong on this one (otherwise I wouldn't be here), but I believe that it's justified to be suspicious in this case
 
I think a word of advice is not to be too "search and destroy" on spam posts. Yes, spam-flag obvious spam into oblivion -- but on the more unclear stuff, hesitate with a 6-flag autonuke. Assume good faith; yes, it's suspicious, but 5 CVs + 3 20ks deletes the post as well.
 
1:07 AM
FWIW I assessed the post as "obvious spam" until OP started complaining, and we can't revoke spam flags
but yes, I'll be more careful next time with my comments, thanks
 
@AndrasDeak I understand that
 
@SmokeDetector notspam
Woh, I didn't realise I could make it delete its own reports.
 
notspam == f?
f will remove the report
 
@Yvette Yeah, they introduced spam and notspam commands to make it easier for ignorant non-programmers (like me).
 
well f will remove the report
@Randal'Thor looking at your network profile, nothing ignorant about you :)
 
1:19 AM
@Yvette Completely ignorant about programming though :-)
 
you're fortunate :)
 
good night
 
night
 
and I don't see our possibly-spammer OP's issue on their website
it's not infinite, and also it's not loading the previous items
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
1:29 AM
 
sd k
 
1:43 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer, blacklisted user: Windows 10 - Display Driver Stopped Responding and Has Recovered. How can I fix it? by Jenifer Lively on superuser.com
 
@SmokeDetector fp-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
The username sounded familiar: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/28346
@hichris123 What do you think of the other answer there, superuser.com/a/1041847
I think it's a spammer who got another answer accepted, in the usual way
 
Certainly looks spammy... especially as the user's other answer has the same link.
Not sure if it warrants a spam flag or an 'other' flag though.
 
OTOH, the author of the question, who accepted that answer, seems legitimate
I custom-flagged
 
1:59 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: Dynamic MVC Controller with Spring MVC and Java by Kay on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
sd k
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer, blacklisted user: “Grouping” dictionary by value of class property by Strike Force Heroes 3 on stackoverflow.com
 
sd k
 
2:08 AM
@sandwich User blacklisted (549867 on superuser.com).
 
@sandwich User blacklisted (78195 on gamedev.stackexchange.com).
 
good spotting Sandwich
 
2:35 AM
Morning
 
evening
 
3:00 AM
Backoff received of 10 seconds.
 
Do we save the backlog of posts over a restart?
Wondering if we could have a giant backlog to chew through and we're actually hammering the API
 
More than likely, it's just a query plan...
 
Prolly. But I'd rather not it be us :P
 
And of course, we got our daily 3:00 UTC backoff due to high server load.
 
What bad things happen if I just delete that file?
 
3:07 AM
(roomba/scheduled tasks)
@Undo Nothing, but there's no reason to...
We respect backoffs, so I highly doubt there's any problem there.
 
Sure, but we might have a backlog of nine thousand posts on one site or something similar.
meh, lemme check. Just a sec
 
apiqueue would tell us, I suppose.
 
oh, yeah
!!/apiqueue
...
oh
!!/queuestatus
 
gamedev.stackexchange.com: 1
hermeneutics.stackexchange.com: 1
ru.stackoverflow.com: 4
arduino.stackexchange.com: 1
video.stackexchange.com: 1
superuser.com: 1
english.stackexchange.com: 1
opendata.stackexchange.com: 1
webmasters.stackexchange.com: 1
matheducators.stackexchange.com: 1
codereview.stackexchange.com: 3
blender.stackexchange.com: 3
judaism.stackexchange.com: 1
craftcms.stackexchange.com: 1
es.stackoverflow.com: 2
codegolf.stackexchange.com: 4
hinduism.stackexchange.com: 1
earthscience.stackexchange.com: 1
 
need to sort that by... something
but yeah, can't see anything weird in there
 
sd k
 
Yeah. Pretty sure this isn't our fault.
 
You could try to reproduce this in console: 25 most recently active SO questions, with all answers, with full text.
 
I think the API console has some weird exemptions, but it'd be easy enough to just curl it
 
If some of these questions have 30+ answers, it's not surprising the server would find it something heavy.
 
3:12 AM
Still shouldn't be throwing backoffs, we were fine for months.
 
Jan 27 at 0:28, by Minestrone
Let's log the API requests that result in backoff, not just "backoff received".
We had them as early as January, which is when the chat logging of backoffs began: chat.stackexchange.com/…
 
dramatic uptick in the last day or two, though. Almost a full page from the last few days out of two pages total
huh, 400 BR on console testing
!!/alive?
 
@Undo Of course
 
http://api.stackexchange.com/2.2/questions?site=stackoverflow&filter=!)E0g*ODa‌​EZ(SgULQhYvCYbu09*ss(bKFdnTrGmGUxnqPptuHP&key=IAkbitmze4B8KpacUfLqkw((&pagesize=1‌​00E0g*O‌​DaEZ(SgULQhYvCYbu09*ss(bKFdnTrGmGUxnqPptuHP&key=IAkbitmze4B8KpacUfLqkw((&pagesize‌​=100) works on my browser
... whatever
http://api.stackexchange.com/2.2/questions?site=stackoverflow&filter=!)E0g*ODaEZ(SgULQhYvCYbu09*ss(bKFdnTrGmGUxnqPptuHP&key=IAkbitmze4B8KpacUfLqkw((&pagesize=100
Working on putting request URL into backoff message
 
Yes, that's the thing... Smokey makes almost 1500 API requests to SO, and we're certainly not getting 1500 backoff messages in a day. It's sporadic.
 
3:21 AM
Right
!!/pull
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev d015dd3 (Undo1: Show URL in backoff warnings) (running on Raspberry Pi)
Restart: API quota is 8792.
 
and now we wait
 
For random cats
 
@SmokeDetector k / gone
 
3:28 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted username, few unique characters in answer: Auto upload to Youtube, or some other video hosting service by wingding on stackoverflow.com
 
sd k
 
3:45 AM
@Undo So, what I'm seeing here is that you fixed the API and backoff problem, because you want to actually log stuff now.
claps
 
Most effective tactic in the book
Of course, is possible that I just totally broke logging
 
It's the exact opposite of "I have a demo for the general manager in an hour, don't touch anything so it still works"
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: fairly well constructed and fifa 17 coins for sale by jaymetzger on gis.stackexchange.com
 
4:00 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: Disable shipping method based on category by Jameslj on magento.stackexchange.com
 
@AshishAhujaツ [:29751750] Body - Position 76-91: bsscommerce.com
 
!!/test bsscommerce.com
 
> Blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title
----------
Title - Position 1-16: bsscommerce.com
Body - Position 1-16: bsscommerce.com
 
Three of your answers link to bsscommerce site. Are you affiliated with it? If so, you must disclose affiliation in your answers. — sandwich 17 secs ago
The user contributes substantial answers, so this is not a straightforward case.
But it's true that there are 4 links to that site on magento.se, and 3 of them are in his posts.
 
4:05 AM
I'm confused. Is this n, f or k?
 
It's complicated. For the time being, it's f.
 
I clearly remember that this user was even blacklisted once. I un-blcklisted him because he was posting legit posts
 
Or actually n.
Yes, I'll flag VLQ because no real content in this one.
 
@sandwich Can't we just do "sd ignore" for now?
And flag it
 
@SmokeDetector n
this also ignores.
 
4:07 AM
Okay
I didn't know that
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body: meals always- combined with the Acai berry diet by FipdNifu on stackoverflow.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Please Pay Attentions To Picking Skin Care Products by JessiRhode on superuser.com
 
Sd k
!!/test driverdr.com
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
4:25 AM
hey
@AshishAhujaツ You here?
 
@Edity Yeah. I'm here
Hiya @Edity
Anything needed?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: A Compact List Of 5 Foods That Burn Belly Fat by joewerseph on superuser.com
 
um what about the smoky test?
 
sd k
@Edity You mean to say I test you?
 
ツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツツ OMG
@AshishAhujaツ yes
 
4:27 AM
Okay
I'll just ask you three q's. If you answer them, you can be privileged from my side
 
ok
 
If smokey reports spam, and you agree it's spam, how do you respond to it saying that it's spam?
 
sd k
is it?
 
Correct
 
yay!
next!
 
4:29 AM
If smokey reports a post, and you say that it's NAA, but not spam, how do you respond to smokey saying that it's NAA?
 
hmm
let me think
 
Take your time
 
>:(
 
np. For next time, its: sd n
n for NAA
 
o
next
 
4:31 AM
Now the last
 
takes a gulp of air
!!/coffee
 
@Edity brews coffee for @Edity
 
If smokey reports a post, and you think it's not spam, how do you respond to it saying it's not spam
 
notspam?
 
4:33 AM
YAY!
 
You can also use: sd f
 
yup
amiprivilliged?
 
Wait a second
 
ok
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Best Natual Skin Care Products For Better Skin by Dannyperez on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
4:35 AM
I can't make you privileged, but few other users can. I'll ping them. But first let me give you a few guidelines
sd k
 
ok
 
If you're not sure about what to do with a report, ask others or simply just do not respond
 
ok
 
For few days, I think you should only respond to clear spam
Till you get used to smokey
 
ok
yup
 
4:37 AM
Note that there is an automatic system which will ignore your responses if you're making too many incorrect responses
So only give correct responses
 
:)
 
@AshishAhujaツ [:29752156] Body - Position 39-45: nigger
 
LOL
 
4:38 AM
@SmokeDetector ignore-
 
@SmokeDetector k
@sandwich Wasn't it k?
@Edity cont..
 
sd n?
 
I consider the context of the question; it's an explanation of why Eminem raps the way he does.
Perhaps it's a VLQ explanation.
But I don't see it intended as an offense to anyone.
 
lol
@Edity cont.
 
4:40 AM
Looks like I now have one more invalidated feedback :(
@Edity cont..
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Is your future wife a fan of the movies? by Dustyjlammers on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
Do not be too excited. We do not want too many mistakes
@SmokeDetector k
 
But it's reasonable to disagree on such things. "Offensive" is subjective.
 
Correct
 
yup
!!/amiprivi;iged
!!/amiprivilliged
no?
 
4:42 AM
@Edity I haven't pinged them yet. I'm doing now
 
:)
hope there online
is undo back?
 
@sandwich Edity wanted to be privileged. Can you make them privileged. I don't think he's gonna do too bad
@Edity yeah
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: This fruit is definitely Weight Loss Reviews by bettyans on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
yeahhhhhh
 
@Edity last test. How should you respond to the above report?
 
4:44 AM
sd k
 
Correct
sd k
 
yay
i see smoky's profilepicture as white
i am cb
 
@SmokeDetector k
Okay, I concede it was an intent to offend.
 
ok
@sandwich can you please please make me privilliged?
 
4:48 AM
@Edity I suppose you read the wiki with commands? github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Commands
 
I did
i was studying
for a week
 
!!/pull
 
Hiya @Andy
 
whats pull?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 49601fd (Normal Human: + Edity in CHQ) (running on Raspberry Pi)
Restart: API quota is 8499.
 
4:49 AM
@AshishAhujaツ Greetings
 
@Edity When you change smokey's code, to make the new code run you need to pull
 
@Andy Hello there
@AshishAhujaツ Sure
!!/amiprivileged
 
@Edity Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
Thanks so much
ok lets see some privilliged commands!
 
@Edity Don't play with commands!
 
4:51 AM
ik
im on the github commands page
 
You can always try them in rooms where smokey not there, but over here, your commands will get registered because now you are privileged
 
ok
let me find some spam posts or something
sd why
 
@Edity [:29752348] That's not a report.
 
o lol
 
5:05 AM
why
@SmokeDetector sd k
 
sd k
 
sd k
but why?
sd why
 
[:29752453] Body - Position 24-48: sendeliterakhitoindia.co
Body - Position 34-49: akhitoindia.com
 
o a spambot i see
 
!!/test akhitoindia.com
 
5:06 AM
> Pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, pattern-matching website in username
----------
Title - Position 1-16: akhitoindia.com
Username - Position 1-16: akhitoindia.com
Body - Position 1-16: akhitoindia.com
 
!!/test sendeliterakhitoindia.co
 
> Pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 1-25: sendeliterakhitoindia.co
Body - Position 1-25: sendeliterakhitoindia.co
 
You can see more details about a report by clicking … at the end of it. This shows more than "why" in chat.
 
ok
wow so much to learn!
 
sandwich means to say the ... at the end of every report. That's a link to metasmoke report
 
5:08 AM
@Edity let's not elaborate on things like this in chat. Ok?
 
ok
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted username, few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: Auto upload to Youtube, or some other video hosting service by wingding on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: to produce the best effect. Oolong tea primarily works as a weight by tkinsjuriya on askubuntu.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Fatorgenius é uma consequência do exame by Ensiony1928 on arduino.stackexchange.com (@NickGammon)
 
5:15 AM
> Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 21-29: garcinia
Username - Position 21-29: garcinia
Body - Position 21-29: garcinia
Title - Position 21-38: garciniareview.co
Body - Position 21-38: garciniareview.co
Title - Position 1-39: http://www.pureasiangarciniareview.com
 
ok
 
@Edity If you see a spam post, and agree that it's spam you should even flag it as spam
 
> Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 21-29: garcinia
Username - Position 21-29: garcinia
Body - Position 21-29: garcinia
Title - Position 21-38: garciniareview.co
Body - Position 21-38: garciniareview.co
Title - Position 1-39: http://www.pureasiangarciniareview.com
 
ok
 
5:23 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Why do you want product? by carpejuriya on askubuntu.com
 
sd k
 
@Edity Did you flag the post?
 
yup
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in body, pattern-matching website in body: SAP GRC VIDEO CLASSES by akshay1212 on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: What is the Celleral Anti Aging Eye Lotion? by user595614 on superuser.com
 
5:28 AM
@SmokeDetector k
sd k
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: AlluraDerm Serum by user147825 on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
> Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 49-54: serum
Body - Position 49-54: serum
Title - Position 14-36: coloncleansingguide.co
Body - Position 14-36: coloncleansingguide.co
Title - Position 1-37: http://bettercoloncleansingguide.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: those benefitsWith the supplement by sills jurin on superuser.com
 
5:36 AM
> Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 31-39: garcinia
Username - Position 31-39: garcinia
Body - Position 31-39: garcinia
Title - Position 18-30: rxreview.org
Body - Position 18-30: rxreview.org
Title - Position 1-30: http://www.alariarxreview.org
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: What should a 21 year old do with £60,000 ($91,356 USD) inheritance? by Mrs Shairley Baker on money.stackexchange.com
 
sd k
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted user: Finally remember to have in fifa 17 coins by jaymetzger on gis.stackexchange.com
 
sd k
 
5:40 AM
Bye
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: How do I create a repeating charge using redstone/repeaters? by Jeff on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
seeya
sd k
sd why
 
[:29752644] Post - Contains 5 unique characters
Post - Repeated word Jeff
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer, blacklisted user: How do I keep an NPC out of my house? by Jeff on gaming.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: http://advancedtrimsite.com/megadrox/ by caseyedwards on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer, blacklisted user: How do I create a repeating charge using redstone/repeaters? by Jeff on gaming.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer, blacklisted user: How to mass populate State & Country picklist values by muchacho on salesforce.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, blacklisted user: this fruit was simply used as a food supply by sills jurin on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Comment aider à ordonner Trimplex Elite Aujourd'hui by brainitteremjil on arduino.stackexchange.com (@NickGammon)
 
Sd 6k
 
woah
 

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