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4:00 PM
true, but they don't need to know that
yet
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Where can I listen to authentic Fado in Lisbon? by Manuel Marçal on travel.SE (@JoErNanO)
 
dramatic music
 
@SmokeDetector @Cerb getting 'That report couldn't be loaded' for the one linked
 
@SmokeDetector f
@Henders yeah, me too
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
4:01 PM
Even after a refresh
 
500 from metasmoke, just needs a deploy I think
 
Multiple records were found for this URL
From MS
So maybe that's the problem
 
Ok so we falsepositive the user to give them the benefit of the doubt. That makes sense.
So far they are a spammer. However, that could change should they start contributing valuable content about Lisbon to Travel.SE.
@Mithrandir @Glorfindel Your spam flags on that post disappeared. How come?
 
retracted them
 
same here
 
4:05 PM
Ah. Why? Because the affiliation now shows?
I'm just trying to understand the thought process.
 
Yep.
 
@JoErNanO from the help center: Post good, relevant answers, and if some (but not all) happen to be about your product or website, that’s okay. If there's only one answer, it's a bit harsh to consider it spam if it's on-topic and discloses affiliation.
 
I tend to be Thor-like when hammering spam. I might be biased, but IMHO a user who registers with the sole purpose of linking their website is a spammer, unless proven otherwise.
 
Yeah, but they are not familiar with the strict policies of Stack Exchange (when compared to other sites).
 
What will most likely happen here is that we let the user "live", and in one month we'll burninate them once we discover that their sole contribution is a spammy post.
Oh note that I have not flagged as spam. Just downvoted since I am giving the benefit of the doubt, and I disagree with the statement "I think the only way to enjoy a true fado evening is with a local because even the good places have different musicians/singers in each day."
 
4:09 PM
Fair enough, I have no problem with that. But that needs to be decided on a case-by-case basis by people who are familiar with the site's culture. We (usually) aren't, that's why we usually act when there is a pattern. One post is not a pattern.
 
Right. If you flag as spam it auto-nukes.
 
If you would've flagged as spam, the post wouldn't be visible anymore :)
 
Yeah I'm just explaining my thought process. I'm a fan of brainstorming. :)
 
I hadn't noticed rolls eyes
 
> If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.
shows off his immense .... culture
 
4:11 PM
I almost thought you were joining this conversation ...
 
Naaa I don't do apps.
One a day does not keep the doctor away.
 
Interesting. My first answer on Travel has now put me on the 200 daily reputation limit, but I actually managed to get over it to 202... would that be the Tag Wiki edit?
 
> If you have an apple and I have an apple and you give me your apple and I eat it, then I can save my apple for later and there's no need to eat mine. The fact you have no apples is not a factor in my decision to steal and eat your apple.
 
did'ja get a downvote and then have it immediately removed
with an upvote in between
 
Could be, but I haven't noticed.
 
4:20 PM
+198	10 mins ago	20 events	 What will happen to Qatar flights from Doha if there is an airspace closure?
+2	1 hour ago	edit	Sleeping options when under 18 and travelling solo
+2	1 hour ago	edit	tag wiki
My money's on the tag wiki not counting
 
Mine too, but that's not how it's supposed to work. Only +15s from accepts should not count.
 
@Glorfindel And bounties.
 
And bounties. Thanks.
 
I think that you got a downvote which was later removed, and that your reputation will be recalculated soon. If not, you should report this as a bug.
 
I was planning to wait until tomorrow or the day after, indeed for a recalculation to happen.
 
4:29 PM
Did you get an accept in those 20 events? Accepts don't count against the daily cap
oh...heh...there was more to the conversation. Apparently, firefox didn't scroll to the bottom
 
@Glorfindel Can't script your way into a mortarboard badge now, can't you? :P
 
Nope. There are limits to my stupidity.
 
4:47 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Money Pool in the era of sharing economy by lawson on startups.SE
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
naa- by caffeineaddiction
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Wild Yam E Elevate IGF tract Horny by nawafhani on superuser.com (@HenryWHHackv2.0)
tpu- by CalvT
 
5:19 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How to add comment column as special labels to a graph? by Neha K on superuser.com (@HenryWHHackv2.0)
 
@SmokeDetector signature
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: C++ benchmarking, volatile by lavaxp on stackoverflow.com (@quartata)
fp- by CalvT
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Can a clever hacker still steal everyone's money from the blockchain.info wallet? by Racheal Tom on bitcoin.SE
tpu- by Yvette
 
@YvetteColomb nice!!!
How do you like it so far?
 
@NobodyNada thankx!
oops I love it
 
keyboard takes some getting used to? :p
 
5:31 PM
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 6677c65: Your tests failed on CircleCI
 
@NobodyNada yus ;)
it
soops
it's so ridiculously fast. I've downloaded repos, it's insane - installing visual studio
these things would take me hours and hours and hours on windows
 
that just means your windows machine was slow :P
either that or your internet, or both
 
hahaha yes it does indeed
all my windows machines were like that
never again
 
macOS is actually a fair bit faster than Windows, but yeah, hardware does matter a lot
Until last year, I had a MBP from 2009 and it was really slow, but then again, a friend of mine put an SSD in his MBP from 2008, and it's really fast again
 
My Windows machine is pretty quick
which is unsurprising, given a 3.7 GHz CPU and 16 GB RAM
could make it quicker with an SSD
 
5:35 PM
I had that
 
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on a063910: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci success on a063910: Your tests passed on CircleCI!
 
SSD 16gb ram >3 gHz
oh I missed that nobody
 
@YvetteColomb software cruft and startup crap also slows Windows down exponentially
 
dnt forget we have appallingly slow internet over here
 
both of which I have very little of
 
5:36 PM
Every Windows machine I've touched starts out decently fast, but gets slower and slower and slower
 
yep. I had most of my start up items delayed - the ones I could or disabled
@NobodyNada same!
 
Even though I didn't upgrade the OS or anything
 
I did have one great window machine, it was a gaming laptop
 
@Glorfindel: Thanks. Does that mean that all my feedback so far (on SOCVR) has gone down the drain?
 
but it just stopped working one day
such a disappointment
 
5:37 PM
ouch
 
yep
I took out the 3 year warranty on this one
tired of replacing pcs
 
Sometimes, laptop makers purposely slow down the computer so you want to buy the new one
 
@Yvette What model is your Mac?
@Ferrybig ...That's horrible
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@NisseEngström ✓ You are a privileged user.
 
5:39 PM
@NisseEngström No, just the list of users with privs in Charcoal is a separate list
 
New metasmoke user 'Nisse Engström' created
 
:3792149827-inch iMac with Retina 5K display
With the following configuration:
• 4.0GHz quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 4.2GHz
• 32GB 1867MHz DDR3 SDRAM - four 8GB
• 512GB Flash Storage
• AMD Radeon R9 M390 with 2GB video memory
• Magic Mouse 2
• PRO APPS 065-C171 NONE
• LOGIC PRO 065-C172 NONE
• Magic Keyboard (International English) and User’s Guide (English)
• Accessory Kit
 
niiiice!
 
@Ferrybig how did you find that out?
@NobodyNada ikr ;) I'm so happy!!!!!!!!!!
 
I've got this one -- the 2.5ghz 512GB model
> 2.5GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor (Turbo Boost up to 3.7GHz) with 6MB shared L3 cache
> 512GB PCIe-based flash storage
 
5:41 PM
@YvetteColomb that's hardly a fair comparison to your Windows machine, then :P
 
@NobodyNada nice
 
@YvetteColomb I thought you were sleeping?!
Was it another Yvette?
 
@ArtOfCode well I had paid for a decent processor and ssd in my windows machine.. but this is superb :D
 
Wait, is it dark outside?
What day is this?
 
@JoErNanO that was me. Couldn't sleep. Playing on my mac
 
5:42 PM
@YvetteColomb Compare the technology with old technologie, old tv, refridges and many other home appliances where more reliable in the past, but at the moment for a producer they can get far more profit when their things fail early
 
Wednesday all day
 
@YvetteColomb sure, but not 4-4.2 GHz, 32 GB, M390 and 512 SSD
 
@Ferrybig I totally agree. I had never thought of it with pcs though
 
@Ferrybig yeah, and they can make stuff cheaper if it doesn't have to last
 
@ArtOfCode ikr it's beautiful. I'm in love <3
@art I decided if I was going to switch I was going all in :D
 
5:44 PM
Apple hardware is reasonable stuff, yeah
 
the privileges of being nearly half century
 
Have you been watching WWDC? I'm not impressed with anything from the keynote, but Xcode 9 and Swift 4 look awesome
 
I just don't like their software, and have a deep-rooted hatred of anything I can't easily take apart and modify myself
 
I used to think it was overpriced, But so far I'm impressed
hahaha yes well that would be a problem then
 
@ArtOfCode You actually can do quite a bit with the OS
 
5:45 PM
@NobodyNada I meant the machines
 
yeah; not so much with the hardware, depending on the model
 
recent machines are moving towards restricting users from opening 'em up and messing with hardware, IIRC
the OS is powerful enough, I just don't like it :P
 
yep I agree and that's why I don't like laptops, when they die they can be beond repair when they
 
@ArtOfCode yeah. I don't think that's much about making it proprietary as much as making it portable and cheap though
 
@YvetteColomb For example also the the new AMD processor cannot run older windows versions older than 10, also an example of us being forced to buy newest version for reasons that the product i just still working correctly
 
5:46 PM
re oops all moulded together
 
@NobodyNada same effect, same hatred :)
@YvetteColomb my sister's laptop is doing this at the moment, and I wonder who gets to fix it
 
@Ferrybig yes that doesn't surprise me. I got so jack of windows. It is buggy and bloated. I actually hate it! and I develop in MS ides!!
 
fortunately, you can open its case, but I dread what I'm going to find
melted CPU is entirely possible
 
that's right
she's lucky she has you
this pc is all secreted, but then I'm leaving it up to apple to fix
I'm hopeless with hardware
 
@Ferrybig but why would you want to run something less than 10 these days?
With MS withdrawing support etc etc
I'm trusting that my Surface doesn't mess up - will never be able to take it apart!!! Used Thinkpads in the past, they were a delight to take to pieces
 
5:52 PM
@QPaysTaxes Xcode 9 has an Undefined Behavior Sanitizer :D
 
@CalvT because 7
7 is supported until... 2020?
 
@ArtOfCode With limited updates and less security?
 
@CalvT because windows 10 is a step back in accessibility because they decided to use smooth scrolling everywhere, and I can't stand it
 
what's wrong with smooth scrolling?
 
@CalvT what do you mean? It's still supported, including security.
I use 10, but 7 is still a good OS
 
5:56 PM
@NobodyNada I have problems with hypersensitivity, smooth scrolling is more visually present than normal scrolling
 
@ArtOfCode Yeah but take WannaCry (or what ever it's being called right now)
Windows 10 wasn't hit
Windows 7 took almost all hits
 
@CalvT not hit, but still vulnerable. I believe that's because the service it exploited is disabled by default in Windows 10.
Also, because a lot of businesses still use 7.
 
MS even made patches for Windows XP for wannaCry
 
It's a solid OS sure, but Windows 10 has better security
 
@CalvT I'm not convinced it does.
 
5:59 PM
@ArtOfCode Each to their own I guess :)
 
aye
 
I like the way it "containerizes" more stuff
 
I use Ubuntu most of the time anyway, sooo....
 
Especially the upcoming Edge virtualisation
 
I'd use Ubuntu if I didn't use Mac
 
6:01 PM
because UNIX
 
The main reasons I use Mac are probably 1) Xcode, 2) Full screen apps and multiple desktops, and 3) Trackpad gestures
 
@NobodyNada What gestures out of interest?
 
Drag with two fingers to scroll like on an iPad, click with two fingers to right click, pinch to zoom and rotate, three-finger tap a word to look it up in the dictionary, swipe left or right with four fingers to switch desktops, and a few more
 
Well I can do all that apart from the dictionary one :)
Does sound useful that one
 
Does this count as gibberish (for rude/abusive flag purposes)?
 
6:05 PM
@CalvT It is
 
@Mithrandir ^^
 
11 reports? :-P
 
goes to look for a script that looks stuff up
 
6:06 PM
@Randal'Thor I think so
 
tpu- by CalvT
 
@Randal'Thor lol new keyboard haha
 
I flagged as abusive and VTCed as unclear.
Just to be on the safe side.
 
[insert "nuke from orbit" meme]
 
6:07 PM
nice
 
@CalvT Does Windows 10 have support for multiple desktops and full-screen apps like Mac does? support.apple.com/kb/PH25574?locale=en_US
 
@NobodyNada Windows 10 has multiple desktops, and it kinda has fullscreen - with the taskbar at the bottom
Dunno if that counts as fullscreen
 
@CalvT Neat
Do we have to stop flagging R/A stuff as spam?
@Glorfindel I think the only exception. Which is one of the supporting reasons we continue to opt to keep them separate - there are occasionally slightly different things we'd like to do with the two flags, since they are very different content, even if they do mostly the same exact thing. — animuson ♦ 3 hours ago
 
@Randal'Thor I'm flagging everything that dude is doing as abusive - deliberate time wasting troll
just flagging all the comments as abusive - of the site's resources — Yvette Colomb 10 secs ago
@CalvT why did you remove it? I guess we only need a spam flag on the Q
 
6:15 PM
Ugh, an answer too.
 
@Randal'Thor Post 1: Already recently reported
 
Oh, is that what the "removed" stuff is?
 
@YvetteColomb It's gone
 
@YvetteColomb Because smokey had already caught the answer
 
@CalvT ah cool
 
6:15 PM
There, gone.
 
ah now we can rest
it's obviously a disgruntled user @Randal'Thor
 
> isnt it obvious the question is are you supposed to do the whole: who, what, where, when and how? For an account question? And if so did you? – Francis Cassavant 5 mins ago
shakes head
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All of this user's posts are spam: user 7470322 on stackoverflow.com
 
That guy's not posted anything on SO
 
6:17 PM
... but they don't have any posts on SO?
 
I figured he will start on there next
 
Is there anything deleted?
 
That doesn't blacklist him though, does it?
 
yes it does
 
6:18 PM
@CalvT User is not blacklisted (7470322 on stackoverflow.com).
 
@YvetteColomb User is not blacklisted (7470322 on stackoverflow.com).
 
@NobodyNada User blacklisted (7470322 on stackoverflow.com).
 
oh well it doesn't thanx NN
so what does allspam do @ArtOfCode?
 
6:19 PM
@YvetteColomb I dunno, why?
 
not much
 
I think this is all, but I'm not sure
 
well why do we have it?
shouldn't it bl a user? be synonym with addblu
 
To make it easier to flag a bunch of spam posts
 
But it doesn't even report them all, right?
 
6:20 PM
If the posts are spam, the tpus we cast will add to blacklist
 
@Randal'Thor the persistence with the answer and comments, like being on a troll bender
@CalvT but I thought tpu added a user to the bl
 
@YvetteColomb What I said :)
 
...I guess?
 
6:23 PM
yeh it is certainly a valuable contribution to the internet that answer
 
What just happened?
 
@Mithrandir Nonsense on Lit.
You got a couple of pings about it.
 
They were all deleted and it's a pain to look at deleted messages on mobile :/
 
hey look at this, am I the only person who thinks this is weird?
I understand... do you know what language is this? — mrb 12 mins ago
 
6:28 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: What visa type should I select when applying for a ancestry visa? (For the UK) by Ceili on expatriates.SE
 
@Mithrandir maybe we should leave them here @ArtOfCode?
 
naa- by Yvette
 
...huh. My review of the Xcode 9 beta so far: It pegs 2 CPU cores and fails to compile code.
Maybe I'll wait a few weeks
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Update Canadian Passport before applying for UK ancestry visa? by Ceili on expatriates.SE
fp- by NobodyNada
 
OK, I'm looking into something. Thanks
 
6:33 PM
@NobodyNada hm
 
@YvetteColomb Deleted chat messages can't be undeleted, even by mods.
 
shrug that's what I get for downloading a beta that just came out yesterday
 
@Randal'Thor oh I need my head read, I was thinking how the fps used to be deleted, they all stay now yes?
 
Yep
 
@NobodyNada I prefer stable versions, unless it fixes a known bug
I had concussion recently, that's my excuse and I'm stickin gto it :p
 
6:35 PM
@YvetteColomb yeah. I didn't uninstall my stable version; I just wanted to play around with it
@YvetteColomb oh no, what happened?
 
@NobodyNada yep
I was thrown off my horse lol
no saddle, helmet or bridle
 
O_o
 
idiotic really
I've hurt my back and I couldn't remember anything when it first happened. I rang a guy I work for and asked him if I was working for him. He named the apps I was working on and said I was doing xamarin. I didn't know wha the apps were and I thought 'wow I'n doing xamarin' had no recall
I didn't know our prime minister
 
Yikes
 
couldn't remember what the horse paddocks looked like when we drove off
I was briefly knocked out
in all honesty, I don't feel like I'm 100% lol
 
6:42 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Normal ECG/EKG Measurement? by Rishi Gupta on biology.SE
tpu- by Yvette
 
@Mithrandir I reported an already caught post so deleted the report - plus I gave the incorrect url the first time (not an SE url), so extra deleted messages
 
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Q: Intercity Buses in Israel

Samuel ManuelIs there a Map of intercity bus routes and schedules? i'd like to do some touring in the galil by public transport

@Mithrandir ^
Knock yourself out
:)
 
Eh, the problem is that I never go anywhere
Is an app an appropriate answer?
 
I don't know. What app? Draft an answer so we can check together.
 
6:58 PM
Well, I would have this bus.co.il/otobusimmvc/en and the moovit app, which is what I use
 

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