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12:05 AM
@Undo Animuson hasn't handled my flags yet. :P
 
bad animuson
 
I know.
I need a way to always do my 100 for the day. :P
@Undo Could you create an editing thingy?
 
@hichris123 in theory, yes.
@hichris123 I predict you hit 3k within two months
maybe 3
 
What did you feed numbers into to get that prediction? :P
 
@hichris123 I looked at your rep graph :P
 
12:19 AM
@Undo Oh. :P
Right now I'm editing posts like http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=%22select+*+from+items%22+hascode%3Ano to make the code formatted. :)
 
ha, good idea
 
It gets boring after a while, though...
 
yeah
it does
 
That's why I want an auto-edit bot. :P
 
:P
Let's give Charcoal a filter gizmo.
 
12:24 AM
So make me one, oh master of stuff. :P
@Undo I was thinking similar to CV queue one.
 
now I have a local copy on my machine.
yay!
 
@Undo Copy of what?
 
@hichris123 Charcoal
 
Yay! :P
 
12:44 AM
@hichris123 Look good, or should it be somewhere else?
 
@Undo Hmm, is that the left side?
 
@hichris123 yup
I can put it anywhere, though.
 
What if you just did a filter button? With a dropdown then...
 
@hichris123 oh, good idea
 
1:07 AM
@Undo There's a [hacker] tag on m.dev.SO. :P
> Many have sought this elusive badge, but it has yet to be discovered.
 
Oooh
Heh @hichris123
 
@Undo Yep. :P Wanted to see if I could post to a closed question on dev. :P
 
:P
 
But hey, I now know how to post answers from the console.
 
hehe
 
1:11 AM
Oh, right, you're a 10ker on Meta. :P
 
:P
 
if you take a potato and then you throw it in the air it will fly
 
@DoorknobofSnow For a while :P
 
I can theoretically close stuff on dev... but I can't. Hmm, I'll try to POST it. :P
@DoorknobofSnow You've come to help?
 
@hichris123 Well, I have one more paragraph in this essaythingy left and then I can help with... what? Charcoal? Smoke Detector? :P
 
1:16 AM
Whatever you want. :)
Well then...:
 
@hichris123 What, as if that's not normal? Everyone knows Skeet's a time lord
 
@DoorknobofSnow Never knew... :P
@Doorknob You have anymore good filters for spam?
 
not really. :/
 
1:38 AM
I threw together a quick logo :P
it's not very good since I just did it really quickly. All I did was this in paint.NET: Clouds -> Displacement -> Typing a C -> Blend mode: overlay -> Merge -> Relief
 
@hichris123 Filtering function incoming.
 
@Undo Main or dev?
 
dev first.
 
git push already! :P
 
there
@hichris123 Go play with it on dev
 
1:42 AM
@Undo Ooh. Can you move it somewhere up? It's a little too low now with Manish's JS thingy...
 
@hichris123 Yeah, I have plans to do it very differently soon.
 
Can I please make it a lowercase filter not Filter? :P
 
@DoorknobofSnow Shiny.
@hichris123 Go for it.
Tell me when you're happy with it and I'll pull to main
 
It's kinda bad that that bothers me...
 
hehe
 
1:45 AM
more charcoal-y:
@Undo Thanks ;)
 
@Undo Okay, made the URL change.
So is the button work after pull to main?
Or... not quite.
Fixed that...
 
@hichris123 Pull now?
 
@Undo If you see nothing wrong, sure.
 
ok
I see a problem.
(after pulling :P)
tries to fix problem
 
@Undo Hmm?
Did I mess something up? :P
 
2:00 AM
@hichris123 You can select obsolete on SO even though there aren't any unhandled obsolete flags there.
@hichris123 no :P
there. fixyed
 
@Undo Now make the reload flags button work. :P
 
:P
 
Charcoal logo idea #3:
 
@DoorknobofSnow Oooh, even nicer. I kinda like that one.
Maybe make it a bit lighter?
(overall)
 
thanks! Okay, I'll do that....
 
2:14 AM
@Undo Mm, so we're PDO-ifying?
 
@hichris123 Meh, I'm just kinda playing with it.
I'm currently doing base.php and some of index.php
 
So PDO and not mysqli_?
 
@hichris123 Yeah, PDO is more betterer.
@DoorknobofSnow I love it.
 
@Undo Why?
@Doorknob Looks good! :)
 
2:16 AM
@hichris123 1. it's an acronym, 2. it's actually pretty easy.
 
@Undo Still haven't answered my question... :P
 
@hichris123 Well... I dunno. I like the parameterized part of it.
 
I'm going to have to PDO my website before it's too late. :P
 
:P
 
2:21 AM
@Undo Is the favicon referenced anywhere?
 
@hichris123 not yet
me is PDOifying right now
 
@Undo I'm going to have to PDO my server. :P
@Undo Do I have to "install" PDO?
 
@hichris123 I don't think so
 
do you like this logo better? i.imgur.com/f3Ta32Q.png
 
@DoorknobofSnow Yeah, it's a little bit better.
I really appreciate you doing this, I couldn't do it :P
 
2:25 AM
@DoorknobofSnow What's the difference? I don't see any... I guess I'm not paying enough attention... :P
 
thanks @Undo :P I tried to make it a bit rougher, but it kinda just looks weird to me... :P
@hichris It's kind of rougher
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 56 secs ago, by Doorknob of Snow
ok, anyway, I'll do more logoishness later; have to work on essay
 
I'm working on Math... :P
I always cast the final vote: stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/3941607 :P
 
@DoorknobofSnow Good luck to you on that essay ;)
 
@hichris123 Wha? D:
let's make a meta post to bring it back :P
 
2:29 AM
@Undo I can't imagine the response to it...
:D
 
ugh.
 
Then it changed:
> 5000 Delete comments on your posts
 
huh
 
Then it left the site forever.
 
huh
 
2:30 AM
Weird.
 
what the... ??!!??
> Moderators can see all data in the system, including votes and user profile information.
 
@Undo Um... MODZ CAN SEE OUR VOTES EEK!
Why wasn't that posted back then?
> Reputation Required

200
Oh, that's to nominate?
 
I'm gonna make an mSO post.
 
@Undo Which one? :D
 
the mods can see our votes one :P
 
2:34 AM
What?
> In the nomination phase, any community member in good standing with more than 16,976 reputation may nominate themselves to be a community moderator.
Arbitrary number much?
 
I think it's like the median or something at that time
 
Would make sense.
 
0
Q: Could moderators see votes in the past?

UndoI was playing with the Internet Archive Wayback Machine, and noticed this page. It's the nominate moderators item in the privilege page as of Oct 2010. Here it is: Moderators can see all data in the system, including votes and user profile information. Is this true? In the past, co...

 
> Is this true? In the past, could diamond moderators see votes?
@Undo No, they obviously lied to us. :P
 
:P
 
2:44 AM
Just join the next election. — Bart Apr 19 '13 at 17:40
@Undo ^ :P
 
heh
 
Take the man's advice (yes, that did come up in the Related Questions to your question above :P).
 
3:09 AM
@hichris123 I'm not sure yet that I want to curse Stack Overflow with my abilities :P
 
@Undo Why not? (It isn't SE anyway) :P
 
@hichris123 :P
 
3:27 AM
No spam yet...
 
@hichris123 so I just had a look at part of the internal spam testing magic. But I can't post it here
 
@ManishEarth Internal? How?????
:P
 
3:46 AM
Not the code, just the matches
 
Oh, like blocky block stuff?
 
@hichris123 basically, your if block from testtitle(), but bigger
 
So whacha going to do with it?
 
dunno
Not exactly what I was looking for, but useful. Might improve the algo using some examples from it
 
I'm assuming you hacked in somewhere.... :P
 
3:52 AM
nah
 
Then how?
 
I asked for some spam examples in TL, and stated the purpose. The mighty shog pings
I wonder how long it takes for the websocket to die
 
Oh, that makes sense. :P You mods in TL... There's gotta be some hole in chat to get into TL. :P
@Manish Dunno.
 
Maybe it died. Gotta check
 
Is it alive still?
 
4:01 AM
it was, but I killed it
adding some logging
 
You should feed it some titles to make sure it actually works...
 
Now it logs all the titles.
 
Ooh, good. I assume to your borrowed server?
 
yeah
 
Any way I can read the log? :)
 
4:11 AM
Difference between every and filter in javascript?
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When to use disk cleanup
just logging all titles. If websockets breaks, it'll stop logging
 
Hmm, okay.
 
 
4 hours later…
8:38 AM
bot died sometime during my lecture because of unicode
fixed and restarted
 
 
1 hour later…
 
1 hour later…
@Manish It worked!
 
12:37 PM
(matched "training")
feel free to tweak the regex, I've put it up in hyper-mode
 
12:59 PM
With the new regexes, lots of false positives. Hmm
 
@ManishEarth Are you around?
 
@ManishEarth False positive much?
 
1:44 PM
@ManishEarth Your Smoke Detector is detecting steam :O
3
 
I think the smoke detector is running low on batteries, it's been chirping all night :P
 
Halp!
 
I'm drowning in non-spam spam!
 
hiya @kalina
 
morning
 
we currently have a rouge Manishbot and no way to stop it :P
 
3:11 PM
there's always a way to stop it
 
well, we could suspend it, but...
 
I doubt suspending it would actually work
 
@kalina There are ways to take his chat diamond away :P
 
since the code that checks if you're suspended happens away from the code that checks if you're a mod
you could just all put him on ignore and then refuse to remove him from ignore
he'll never do it again, then
 
ha
I want to see the real Manish posts, but not the Manishbot posts :P
 
3:12 PM
it's not like he ever says anything worth reading
 
Hmmm...
 
have you read this thing?
from that Physics Overflow site
 
not yet
reads
 
basically says "yeah... er, let's just copy physics.se"
 
pretty much.
we all knew this would happen eventually :P
 
3:17 PM
well tbh, SE will remain dominant overall while ever it has their shared community across sites
setting up a single site for a single topic is barely a comparison
 
@DoorknobofSnow I cranked up the regexes to see what I would catch
Intentional steam detector
 
@ManishEarth whew, you're back!
me is working on Cinder
 
bot killed
 
yay!
we are saved!
I would say that those regexes aren't optimal.
 
@DoorknobofSnow I figured if I wasn't running it in the Tavern yet, I could play with the settings
 
3:24 PM
:P
 
so what is this room for
is there cake?
 
@kalina It started out as a room for a comment-flagging webapp, and now we're tackling spam.
really it's a room for whatever we decide it to be.
 
interesting
 
but we ran out of cake ;(
 
WHAT?!
 
3:27 PM
I know. It was dramatic
Pops came in and ate the last eight pieces.
 
it's fine, my presence here will sweeten the place up
I am awesome like that
 
yay!
 
@ManishEarth will tell you how awesome I am
...
well fine, he can die in a fire
 
yay!
 
@ManishEarth Question: how can I detect when the flag modal dialog comes up?
 
magic
 
oh
tries to find magic book
 
@Undo why do you want to open the spam dialog?
 
@ManishEarth I'd prefer to have the button on the flag dialog than under every single post in my action bar.
 
3:49 PM
@Undo oh, that button.
Multiple ways to do it:
- register an additional handler on the flag dialog that polls the page with setInterval(), looking for the dialog. Interval is cleared if the red error box shows up or if the dialog shows up
- Use a delegated handler (basically, $.live(), except that functionality is now part of .on()) and add the button to dialogs on mouseover
- Register an HTMLDOMChanged event on document. Yeah, that'll teach it.
(the last one can cause lag)
 
heh, ok
@ManishEarth So there's no way to say something like $("a.flag-button-class").onClick(...);?
 
As in?
 
Like we can do in non-userscript jquery.
add in another action that triggers when the button is clicked.
 
@Undo um, you can already do that
jQuery .on() and .click() stack
 
ok, I'll play with some stuff.
@ManishEarth Another thing: This script only shows the extra toolbar button on non-*.stackexchange.com sites. The spam thing shows up in the sidebar, though, so I don't know what's wrong. Any ideas?
 
3:59 PM
@Undo dunno
 
odd...
very odd...
:P
 
@Undo test it in your browser with debugger;
 
tried that. no JS errors.
 
oh dear
 
oh, debugger? Whuzzat?
 
4:00 PM
code conversations
 
@Undo learn. chrome. devtools.
or ff
works in both
 
hehe
found it
 
give me teh codez plz
 
@kalina code on github
 
oh, I wasn't being serious
 
4:01 PM
@ManishEarth Fixed it.
One. Single. Asterisk. D:
 
hah
 
I am going to take your channel and fill it with ponies, the first time @ManishEarth next goes to sleep
it shall then be known as Pony HQ
 
D:
I shall use my owner powaz and move all your ponies to my trashcan
 
@kalina The chat api that SmokeDetector uses is open source
And that gives me a brilliant idea.
 
@ManishEarth NOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
4:03 PM
oh no, @ManishEarth has an idea
everybody get your protective gear on
 
@ManishEarth give it to the Nazi chat people?
 
No, but I can set up a cronjob to set fire to random people in the Bridge
3
 
no you can't
fire is my thing
get off it
 
@kalina Watch carefully, as I replace you with a very small python script
 
joins bridge
 
4:05 PM
I will watch carefully, as you type script wrong
 
what the... ?
crap.
I have a problem.
 
ahahaha
@exclude chat.*
 
ah, ok
 
@ManishEarth Yay!
 
you're starting to get positive hits now?
because I'll have to start paying attention if that is the case
 
@kalina we always had positive hits. Doorknob was still running his MSO bot so I decided to tweak mine and see
 
yeah but the intention is to get it to the point where most things it links are positives, right?
 
@kalina yep
This room is the dev room anyway
 
4:27 PM
suddenly this room is full of people from the bridge
it's less cool than it was
 
lol
I got interested in this room while I was lurking in the tavern
I need to do something about message borders...
 
well, we were viciously thrown out of the airlock
@ManishEarth I am slightly offended that you even think it's possible to replace me with a script
 
The airlock was opened and we floated into the space near the bridge
 
by slightly, I mean 12 months ago I'd have already been banned, there'd have been a meta post and you'd have a got a reversal badge for it already
 
@kalina everyone can be replaced by a script :p
@kalina ?
 
4:29 PM
nope
 
I disagree with cinder on chat being bad btw, it just needs a better look
unless there's something else it does on chat that I don't know about
 
also the whole fire thing is dead anyway, since people confuse it with being aggressive and then use it against me when I try to contribute more to the community
 
@kalina Really?
...some people really can't take a joke then
 
Stack Exchange isn't the right place for me to voice my issues, anyway
it's also hometime!
so BYE \o/
 
Bye
 
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