We just had our D&D game! So much fun

@AncientSwordRage glad to hear it

@GcL sounds good! Thanks!

@KorvinStarmast yeah that's what I'm after, but the issue is that it's a campaign-long system, rather than a one-off. So far not many have been able to give it a try

@Ben I'd like to help you play test it but the time differential is a bit of an obstacle.

@AncientSwordRage glad to hear it, did you DM or play as PC?

@KorvinStarmast PC, @Sciborg is the DM

Glad to hear it went well, you doing a warlock?

@KorvinStarmast Dwarven Warlock, yeah 😊

@AncientSwordRage My warlock is 55 xp away from level 10 (not a dwarf) and we had to stop the session in the middle of a grand battle last night. I really enjoy playing her, mostly as a support.

@KorvinStarmast we narrowly avoided another combat

@AncientSwordRage We did quite a bit of avoiding combat in ToA, is this a home brew world you all are playing in or a published adventure.

@KorvinStarmast home brew

Aah, the best kind. :)

We got very beat up last combat (we're all level 2) and I think our DM was hoping we'd avoid fighting again so soon without resting

@AncientSwordRage We are coming to the end of a campaign in a home brew world with a DM who loves world building. Ad he loves how the players are willingly contributing to world building as well. (I am starting a shipping / trading (and sometimes raiding) company on the southern coast ...)

@KorvinStarmast awesome

I have really enjoyed this campaign. Gonna miss the group, but each campaign eventually ends. DM is considering Campaign 2 with us starting in a new part of the world.

@KorvinStarmast D&D

@AncientSwordRage yeah, I should probably apologize on Teri's behalf there...

@AncientSwordRage speak for yourself, some people didn't get hit

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@bobble it's not Fin's fault she's the tank

@bobble it's all good

Especially considering your character rogued over to mine and patched them up.

> declined - Seems like a good-faith misunderstanding of which edits cause the question to be bumped.

I agree with that possibility :D I will flag again if it's a recurring issue

@nitsua60 is it possible to discuss amongst the mods, that in the future if a flag like that comes up, to mark it as helpful? It's not obvious from non-moderators the edit this was a misunderstanding, and I would hate to be flag banned for bringing stuff like this to the mods attention when I can't see the stats on this stack that tell me it's probably in good faith?

Personally, I'd be really hesitant to call something edit abuse and intentionally (or disruptively) bumping unless there's a broader pattern

If it's a single edit, even if arguably minor, that's fine. Or at least it's easy to give the benefit of the doubt and say the emphasis was important enough

@AncientSwordRage they don’t care if you get flag banned.

Also, seriously, getting flag banned around here is hard. Very few are gonna cast enough post flags for it to be possible. Please stop worrying too much about it

Yeeeah, the only way to get surprised by a flag-ban, especially if you know enough about them to be worrying about it in the first place, is to submit so many flags in a row that they get processed all at once and enough of them are declined to trigger the ban.

Which (again, if you know enough about them to be worried about it in the first place) seems pretty straightforward to avoid.

It's probably a good general rule of thumb anyway; raising that many flags that fast means something is going on that needs to be addressed with more than just flags.

And it's not a ban anyway, it's a suspension. They've eliminated the perma-ban loophole.

@BESW potato potato

In what way is "temporary" a synonym for "permanent"?

It's not, "ban" is a synonym for "suspension".

I'm not gonna get into a dictionary fight. "Ban" has implications of permanency that we've seen people get confused by on the Stack, which "suspension" does not. The distinction I'm making is clear from the context I provide.

I believe relevant regarding flags and bans: meta.stackexchange.com/q/173878/681403

yeah calling it a flag ban is definitely a misnomer, though it's a misnomer we're sorta stuck with for now

@ThomasMarkov I think they do (remember, I'm also a mod, and handle my own flags on SFF) but the interface never says "This user is 3 'unhelpfuls' away from ban/suspension/timeout

@Someone_Evil Is it on the flagger to track through the edits of a user you think might be abusing edit-bumps?

@AncientSwordRage To be more precise, they dont feel that they need to consider if you will get flag banned when handling your flags. Which is different, but not really.

> that's a reasonable position to take.

that makes me more confident about matters

seems like given a different case OS and other mods might decide differently

@AncientSwordRage I don't know at all the context you're referring to. Would you mind typing up the situation you're seeing into a more detailed (multiline?) chat message that I can link into the mod room?

starts there ^

@AncientSwordRage I think I'd like to a bit more evidence than one edit which did change something. A long series on the same post would be one thing. Concerns along the lines of "this is not the first time I recall such a thing" are flags which I've received and investigated based on.

@Someone_Evil Gotcha, good to know where the bar is

But I also can't tell you whether I would've marked that particular flag you raised as helpful or declined

flag handling is tricky

So, lets see what needs to be hidden here @AncientSwordRage ;)

oh lol, it are the other rooms you are in ofcourse. Never mind me.

@ThomasMarkov It is not. I have been suspended two or three times, I have never been banned.

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lexicographically, a space comes after letters, right? So "Backstroke" would come before "Back Rounds"?

@nitsua60 I'm really confused

I.e. if one were to alphabetize "backstroke" and "back rounds," which would come first? (One might, for instance, be writing up a glossary for one's bellringing students, if one were so inclined.)

If those two are the name of characters/symbols, I don't know which and google isn't able to help me with them...

Oh, they're words?

From my experience with sorters special characters are not consistent between different sorters

@nitsua60 shorter words first I say

(partly as the space is ascii code 32, and A is 65, lowercase 'a' is 97?)

Need some more eyes on the recent edit to this question.

It invalidates a point Dale made in his answer (the point was wrong fwiw), but the edit does clarify what was obviously the author's intent for the feature.

Rolled back.

@Akixkisu My point was that I dont think it was actually a change. Just a clarification of what their intent was.

@ThomasMarkov The edit before that changed the item.

And it is a suggestion that I make in my answer.

Ah, I see. I think going back to revision 4 is fine, that one just clarified what was obviously their intent already.

Revision 5 is a functional change.

I agree.

When a comment has more upvotes than the post it's own, you know something is up

To expand...

Goodberry wine was a magical drink in D&D v.3.5 that healed 1 hit point per dose, and you could benefit from a maximum of 8 in a day. This lined up with the goodberry spell's own limit; you could have as many of the 2d4 berries from goodberry as you like, each curing a single point of damage and sating hunger like a normal human-size creature's meal, but the healing from goodberry capped at 8 hit points per creature in a given 24-hour period, no matter how many spells cast.

@DanB The above seems relevant as a historical context piece.

@AncientSwordRage It would be useful if more than half of those would accompany a downvote to clearly signal that.

@Akixkisu even before today's 5 downvotes, I think there were at least 20 downvotes on it

Also, is this math correct: