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12:48 AM

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Q: What to do about a new user repeatedly posting poor questions?

In the last few days I've noticed a new user has posted ~5 questions; most are of poor quality, showing little to no research. Some of the questions have been flagged as too broad or unclear, but not all. This user is a new DM, and it seems that the user is trying to have his campaign written by ...

nitsua60

2:18 AM

@NautArch What do you think of my answer on the meta DavidCoffron linked?

Ben

4:03 AM

Also - if you haven't seen it yet, go watch "What we do in the shadows"

BESW

By Taika Waititi, the director of Thor: Ragnarok.

trogdor

yep

I liked it a lot

even before I knew he made it

heck before I knew anything about him at all

but now I am a big fan of his, he is pretty great XD

David Coffron

5:22 AM

@nitsua60 While its on the chat, here is a much older discussion. (cc: @NautArch )

V2Blast

anyone have any interesting builds (multiclass or single-class) for a level 5 all-halfling one shot? No UA. We'll all basically be new recruits of a halfling criminal organization.

unrelated: so, uh, what's the process for suggestions to synonymize tags or merge them or whatever, after the initial meta post and discussion?

examples:

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Q: The [story] tag should be merged with the [plot] tag

This issue of the confusion between the story and plot tags has been brought up twice in the past (years ago): How should the “story” and “plot” tags be used?, in November 2011 (eventually closed as a duplicate of the later post...) Do we need both [plot] and [story]?, in October 2014 Also semi...

discussion tags synonymization

brought it up in august, one person replied

nothing seems to have changed about the tags or their use

and, of course, the more recent metas:

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Q: Should the [breath] tag be renamed to [breathing]?

The usage guidance for the breath tag currently says: For questions related to to the act of breathing or holding your breath. However, any time I see the tag, it takes me a second (or takes me hovering over the tag to see the usage guidance) to remember what it's meant to be used for. The ...

discussion tags rename-request

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Q: Should the [astral] tag be renamed to [astral-plane]?

This seems like a pretty straightforward suggestion. The astral tag is currently used on just 4 questions, three of them about D&D 5e and one about 3.5e. In addition, all 4 questions are specifically about the Astral Plane. (There are quite a few other questions about the Astral Plane that don't...

discussion tags rename-request

but then those are sort of still actively being discussed

though at least in the former case the response seems pretty unanimously in favor

I suppose more generally there's the issue of people agreeing that something needs to be done but nobody doing it

e.g.

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Q: What is the [teamwork] tag meant to be used for, and how is it different from [helping] or [party]?

The teamwork tag has no usage guidance or tag wiki, but it's currently being used on 11 questions about a variety of systems: 4 of them are tagged as being about Fate Core 1 is tagged for Fate and the Dresden Files RPG 1 is generically tagged as science fiction and GM techniques 1 is tagged as ...

discussion tags

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Q: What is the [conflicts] tag meant for?

The conflicts tag seems to be getting used for a number of different questions. It primarily seems to be used to refer to situations in Fate/Fate Core, but is also tagged on a few questions about Polaris, Mouse Guard, Dogs in the Vineyard, and some other systems. However, the tag also seems to b...

discussion tags

kviiri

7:10 AM

@Carcer I get what you're saying but I wouldn't call AW, DW and Monsterhearts "a single product", effectively or otherwise. They're rather different games that just work on a rather similar set of core principles

BESW

They're related the way the d20 System constellation, or the Fate constellation, are related: sufficiently similar to be considered as using the same system.

D&D 3.5, Pathfinder, 4e, 13th Age, Stargate SG-1, Star Wars d20, Spycraft d20--much more than using the same core principles, they all use the same basic system.

Ditto the PbtA constellation.

Carcer

8:55 AM

@kviiri product probably the wrong word to use, as BESW puts it they are effectively using the same system

kviiri

@Carcer Same system in some loose sense, I'd say. I mean, the rolls are alike, and each game uses the same root principles, but since those principles are largely about "honoring the genre" and each game is of a different genre, they come down to very different experiences.

Carcer

as described to me they all seem to very obviously be using the same core mechanical system

I get that the narrative experience at the top level will vary dramatically depending on which one you're playing, but at the core they have the same mechanic

kviiri

In a sense, but I don't think it makes the guide any worse.

Rolling systems are just an accessory, not a thing in itself. A more comprehensive guide could've maybe showcased something Diceless, something Fate, etc etc, but I don't think there's any inherent value in showing off in how many ways one can decide things with dice.

Carcer

9:12 AM

it is ostensibly about roleplaying beyond D&D but it does an extremely poor job of illustrating the RPG landscape beyond D&D as everything else it talks about is also from a single family of games

that irks me. I'd have been cool if it was upfront and said "I want to recommend you this particular family of games"

I don't think anyone is going to successfully argue that into not annoying me but it's hardly the biggest deal in the world

kviiri

Yeah, I get what you're saying, but I just guess I feel stressing out the importance of being in a particular system family or not doesn't matter that much to me.

I mean, for instance, I think AW is a very different game from DW and the similarities are pretty limited. You have moves, you have GM moves, you have 2d6 and the GM agenda, but after that AW and DW are so different that I can't really GM the latter despite being very comfortable with the former.

doppelspooker

11:02 AM

@V2Blast There's not really a formal process because we don't have to do it that often, but in general: diamond mods discuss it then act on it or choose not to. A status tag should be added once we choose one way or the other though. In order though: (1) slipped through the cracks, (2) busy checking before we do this, (3) has only been around for a couple of days, (4) and (5) have already been pruned and require no further action. (and [teamwork] had a tag wiki added.)

alternately, synonyms can be made by the community, which requires one person to propose the synonym on the tag and others to agree

kviiri

Mmh. I shouldn't have read that Werewolf as a boss question. I had a similar situation in one of my parties and got a bit too eager to answer instead of doing productive stuff :>

Carcer

12:06 PM

homosexuality in FR question has me thinking; it seems like Sunite temples would be a great first stop for trying to find a local scene

Sune's whole thing basically being "love! passion! look fabulous!"

NautArch

2:58 PM

@nitsua60 I think it's just about spot-on - but it unfortunately opens things up to bad Q&As. We have a precedent for good questions because of bad answers, and this is a similar situation of should we close off what might be a good question because of the high degree of noise in both Qs and As.

kviiri

3:34 PM

Almost three weeks in, my algorithm still shows no signs of results :(

Apparently the time complexity is pretty wild

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