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1:07 PM
paladin in plate...coming through!
 
[thunk]
 
a quick torch light, lay on hands and haste, and i'm back in action 2 rounds later.
well, 4 rounds. the 2 rounds was to move to get back.
team has been hacking away at it, as it gets hit, it gets stronger and AC increases. Two of our NPCs are down and I run in and crit when it's AC is at 22+ and drop a 3rd level smite. adios, BBEG.
 
so, our female drawf sorc died last night
 
and after that there are still people to claim paladin is useless :)
 
but we decided we had enough resources to get her reincarnated. she is now a male rock gnome (played by a guy)
 
1:17 PM
@AnneAunyme that sounds like a very edition dependent opinion.
 
@DForck42 nice! welcome, kotter.
 
@DForck42 Was it a glorious death?
 
@Adam ...not really
 
aw
did he get revenge?
(or is it "did she get revenge?" ? weird case)
 
@DForck42 Do tell. How did she die?
 
1:19 PM
it was funny though. the dwarf was down, had 1 success. another player was gonna heal and I was like "nah, kill the things first" cause I was gonna heal if thing started going sideways. well that player instead through a potion that hit the dwarf, causing a failure. THEN, the dwarf rolls a crit 1, causing two more failures and dieing (unsure how much of this is house ruled vs RAW)
 
@DForck42 that's all raw. damage is autofailure, crit 1s are double failure.
 
Did they think that breaking a healing potion over her face was going to work?
 
@Adam that is the bigger problem
 
I know about a parodic RPG where some class has a "Lay on Fists" ability
 
@Adam artificer or whatever the UA class is
 
1:22 PM
basically you punch the dying dwarf in the face to make him gain hp...
 
@DForck42 Did they throw alchemist's fire at the dying guy!?
 
I might add, this is this player's.... fourth of fifth character in this campaign
@Adam yeah I think so
this party... likes friendly fire...
welp, I'm gonna be afk, meetings all morning
 
Sounds a lot more like straight up murder to me. But if everybody's cool with it.
 
On yesterday's game we had two PCs confessing their love to each other, it was pretty intense.
 
I've never really understood the PC love interest thing. Seems like it would overly complicate the table.
 
1:29 PM
It does, but this table is all about drama
 
We prefer our drama to be on fast and loose rule changes and critical fumbles.
 
don't you like a complicated story?
personally I really like when we spend an entire session an in the end we don't even remember what was the system we used
 
If that happened to my group, I'd take it as a sign we hadn't chosen the right system for the campaign experience we want.
 
Maybe not the right system, but definitely the right choice in ignoring it and just going with the story :)
 
If we want a lot of dramatic non-combat scenes, we should probably pick a system which supports that.
 
1:35 PM
One of my more memorable story campaigns was played by discarding pretty much the entire game at some point and just going on telling the story
 
I've shifted one campaign back and forth across two and a half different systems depending on the changing needs of a particular session/adventure; it's currently on hold until we can revisit our campaign assumptions and figure out what to do with it next.
(Primarily a lightly modified Atomic Robo RPG, one session of Don't Rest Your Head, one adventure of Masters of Umdaar, and a side campaign of Monster of the Week.)
I've also talked with folks who use D&D 4e for combat and Fate for non-combat.
 
@BESW I've heard of multi-system campaigns, but never have I seen the Atomic Robo RPG as one of said systems.
 
I also reconstituted a dead D&D 3.5 solo campaign by translating it into Fate and turning it into a political intrigue.
And the Masters of Umdaar adventure was fun and weird because we kept the ARRPG mechanics on the existing PCs; all the NPCs and environmental stuff, and the local PCs, used Umdaarian Accelerated rules with minor refresh tweaks to match ARRPG's fate economy.
 
I don't really need the system to handle drama sequences between PCs
Even if it is an important facet of the campaign
 
Well, yeah. We don't need mechanics for anything; freeform is a perfectly useful and valid form of play.
I just figure, if we've chosen a system and aren't using it, there's a mismatch going on somewhere which should probably be addressed.
 
1:50 PM
I don't need systems to handle drama either, but I generally love systems that ENCOURAGE drama between players :)
Although my most regular player (my girlfriend) doesn't like drama much unfortunately
 
@BESW if a system is chosen, it should be used.
 
@Erik This. Lately I've been drawn to systems which push us to do things we like but which don't come easily/naturally.
 
I understand, there is no point in saying we use a system if that's not the case, but some system are loose enough that you can easily ignore them as you play
 
eg, we spent a long time trying to use Fate to do character drama, and eventually realised that Fate only helps us do things we sorta already know how to do. Bubblegumshoe is much better at rubbing our nose in the character drama and keeping it in the forefront even if we're inclined to retreat to more comfortable ground.
 
@BESW did you look at MASKS or the ApocalypseWorld stuff?
 
1:54 PM
I am pretty sure my GM wouldn't like this kind of system, he really want the drama not to look forced
but maybe I will try them with an other GM
 
@Trish We've played PbtA games (see Monster of the Week above) and they don't work for us; particularly not for me as a GM, because the GM moves aren't pushing me to behave differently, they're just adding complexity to behaviour I'd engage in anyway.
I haven't read MASKS.
 
Curious btw - any of you going to join that 200-word RPG challenge that's linked in the sidebar?
 
Masks is kind of a teenie Hero offshoot of apocalypse world. Playbooks, customizable etc.
 
@Erik I wrote two entries for it last year, but don't feel any inspiring tickle this year.
 
Around what kind of theme/mechanic?
 
@doppelgreener you OK for today?
@BESW Same here, I don't really have any ideas that I'd like to fit into 200 words limit.
 
@eimyr i am not. my internet's been awful since sometime last night. :(
very slow, going in & out, etc
i'm not sure what's going on
 
The Philosoraptors were just a matter of tidying up work I'd done for an existing game, and Colonypunk was a way to try and wrap my head around ideas which needed expressing.
 
@doppelgreener So I take it someone needs to send out a "game canceled" message, or do you think it will be fixable?
 
does the 200 word-thing has to comply to a theme?
 
2:03 PM
@AnneAunyme Nope.
 
oh, so I can submit something I wrote last month, I am pretty sure It can fit in 200 words
 
@eimyr i don't think it's fixable
 
@BESW Surgadores never made it to the 200-word?
 
Surgadores is much too bloated for 200 words.
 
@doppelgreener OK, I'll send the update.
 
2:05 PM
Colonypunk looks pretty cool
I'm tempted to think of something just because it's a nice challenge
 
It's fun, and I strongly recommend you join the G+ community; a major part of the challenge is networking.
If I didn't have so many demands on my creative energy right now I'd be working to come up with something.
But I'll probably only enter if the muse grips me and won't let go.
But right now my brain has just started looping "or possibly a cat" and that's usually a sign I should go to sleep. Goodnight.
 
@BESW goodnight!
 
night
 
2:21 PM
Okay, kinda-strange question: is there a term for when a name "changes gender"? Like how "Kim" used to be a perfectly common name to give your baby boy, but now is almost-exclusively used for girls? Or how "Riley" was for a long time predominantly used for boys, but is now squarely ungendered?
(At least, both those assertions seem true from my Anglo-American perspective.)
 
No idea. Sounds like a question for the English exchange
And indeed cultural. Kim in Dutch used to be entirely a girl's name, and is now used for both boys and girls.
Might be a mix of cultures that's causing the name to move even
 
2:34 PM
@nitsua60 uhm... There are names that are genderless... Like Dominique in France. But for when the name changes gender?!
Ambigious gender name? Gender Bender?
 
Androgynous is the term for names that can be used for either, though "gender bender" more refers to character designs and stuff.
 
@doppelgreener yea... gender bender is either for taking deliberately the wrong gendered name or to change the gender of the character during the game/series.
 
"Androgynization" sounds like it'd describe a process, but of course I'm just making that up
 
@Erik you enwordified it
 
@nitsua60 I'm pretty sure that, like with Kim or Logan, traditionally gendered names just become unisex in that case, with the name just being much more popular in one of the gendered uses. It's not like males who were named Robin are now dispossessed of the name.
A unisex name (also known as an epicene name, a gender-neutral name or an androgynous name) is a given name that can be used by a person regardless of the person's sex. Some countries have laws preventing unisex names, requiring parents to give their children sex-specific names. In other countries unisex names are sometimes avoided for social reasons. Names may have different gender connotations from country to country or language to language. For example, the Italian male name Andrea (derived from Greek Andreas) is understood as a female name in many languages, such as English, German, Hungarian...
 
2:51 PM
@eimyr But is there a term for the transition of a name from sex-specific to unisex?
 
If there is, I haven't found it.
 
3:20 PM
"unisexisation"?
 
4:01 PM
desexualizing and degendering are possibilities, but I've never seen those terms used in practice.
 
degendering... I think I saw that in context of allowing female soldiers...
 
Androgynization?
 
I think Androgynization might be a specific type of hormone therapy where you treat someone with male sex hormones to establish male sex characteristics
Wait, I lied, that's Androgenization
Those little typos man, they make a world of difference sometimes
 
I have the weirdest urge to watch the Power Rangers movie again.
 
The new one, or the old one?
 
4:11 PM
The new one.
It's perhaps the best worst movie of 2017. Or the worst best movie, depending on your perspective.
 
I didn't think it was that bad. I really like it
 
I love it too. It hits the same enjoyment factors as Pacific Rim to me.
Which I've also described as either the most awesome dumb movie or the dumbest awesome movie.
They ride that line between campy cheese and serious really well.
And I think another thing both movies have in common is that they don't have some hackneyed romance subplot.
There may or may not be some romantic tension, depending on your viewpoint, but there's nothing blatant.
 
4:58 PM
@nitsua60 This might be a question for Linguistics. If there's a term for that historicolinguistic process, it'll likely have been coined in some obscure corner of that field.
(For a tip asking there, to avoid getting sent to ELU for asking “is there a word for”, phrase it in linguistic terms: “Is there a name for the process in which the personal gender associated with a given human name in a given speaker population changes or flips over time…” or something like, plus sample cases.)
 
5:36 PM
@Yuuki a friend of mine mutes Pacific Rim and just plays EDM with it. says it's the best way to watch.
 
@NautArch The campy narm-tastic dialogue is such a crucial part of the enjoyment though.
"You can fight the hurricane. You can win."
 
@Yuuki the more i've watched it, the more i enjoy it. mostly because I love piloted armor.
 
Elbow rocket!
 
Mobile armor type stuff isn't usually my forte, yet I loved Power Rangers, G-Gundam, and Zoids as a kid.
 
@Yuuki @LegendaryDude re: the shield/shocking grasp issue. I added another comment, but difference between worn/wield is supported by published sageadvice. dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/rules-answers-march-2016
 
5:45 PM
@Adam g-gundam is best gunam
lest politics drama, more robots!
 
6:01 PM
I would like to make a Gnome Druid and his animal companion (and mount) would be a capybara.
 
6:18 PM
@Yuuki Is the capybara piloting a mobile suit?
 
@SevenSidedDie The capybara IS the suit. It's a were-gundam.
 
@Karelzarath best lycanthropy
 
I can't imagine a capybara being a were anything. They're way too relaxed.
They're like Kenny G, they emanate a 15-foot radius of permanent cool and smoothness.
 
@Yuuki Weresloth?
 
@Yuuki Lazy Good alignment. also, you have a penchant for eating your own poop.
@Yuuki i'm pretty sure that Kenny G does NOT do that.
 
6:21 PM
@NautArch There's potentially unprocessed nutrients in there to reclaim.
 
@SevenSidedDie if you don't, you end up with a disease from lack of gut bacteria. Unless you're a paladin gnomish were-capybara. Then you're all good.
 
@NautArch Whose alignment is KG?
 
@Karelzarath Kenny Good?
 
@NautArch "Make a Con save to see if you can go through with this fecal transplant"
 
Hm. So does that mean a paladin is also immune to scurvy and rickets?
 
6:27 PM
@SevenSidedDie As well as gingivitis and cavities.
 
Conclusion: a paladin can survive on eating dirt.
 
Is a paladin a natural antibiotic?
 
Not sure I'd go as far as cavities. I don't think cavities are really a disease
 
@SevenSidedDie at third level? heck yeah!
@Adam depends on what caused the cavity. THey're immune to gum disease.
 
If not dirt, certainly candies, starch, and all the other carby goodies.
 
6:28 PM
immunity to acid would cover plaque-caused gum disease.
 
Yeah, but I don't think being immune to disease would stop things like sugar or acids from dissolving you teeth.
 
@Yuuki This raises the possibility of using a paladin as a super-charged dialysis machine.
 
Since a paladin is immune to malnutrition, all they really need is water and calories.
 
@Adam Fun fact: tooth decay is actually not caused by acids or sugars. It's what the anaerobic bacteria that eat that stuff poop out that does it.
 
6:30 PM
@Yuuki You just did, yes.
Dang it!
 
@SevenSidedDie I think 28 days later had something like that. one of the cut scenes was the main dude saving somebody else with a full blood transplant. the directors said they cut it because that seemed pretty dumb unless you can also scrub out the other guy's blood vessels with bleach.
 
@Yuuki have you used it?
 
@NautArch I was planning on taking a look at it yesterday when I got home but I forgot about it.
 
also, for those keeping score with my decision to not take Lucky with our houserule of critical fumbles and missed my earlier post this morning...I did critically fumble on my first attack last night at 94%.
 
@Adam Hm. I'm not a bioscientist, but I'm somewhat sure that they misunderstand how blood vessels work. They seem to be picturing something in which sludge can accumulate. ^_^ (Unless I'm missing something from not having seen the movie yet, and sludgy cardio systems is a point of canon.)
 
6:33 PM
@NautArch O.O Ouch. What happened?
Stabbed yourself in the eye with your greatsword?
 
@nitsua60 Okay, it's been awhile since I've messed with probability, but wouldn't you calculate the chances of not getting 5 or 10 on both dice and then negate it? 1 - (0.8 * 0.8) == 0.36 (36%)?
 
through my magic maul about 50' (hammerthrow!) and fell headfirst into a geologic feature and stunned condition. Also blinded by the stuff inside that feature. Ended up having to force my way through it after i felt there was space. Turns out that space was a 100' drop. And i forgot i had a parachute.
@Karelzarath basically took me out of the fight for 4-5 rounds. but I did discover what was underneath, so when the floor gave way at the end of the battle I knew what was happening and what to try and do (there was a portal to the far realms...which conventiently closed before we could reach it.)
 
@Yuuki If there are 100 possible total outcomes, Then there would be 10 positives from each of 5-x and 0-x And then 2 positives from each of 1-x, 2-x, 3-x, 4-x, 6-x, 7-x, 8-x, and 9-x. That totals out to 36 possibilities, so 36% seems right to me too.
 
6:55 PM
new mod elections
that is interesting
 
7:07 PM
that meta question covering the site year in review is great though
 
Thing I will try to avoid when making a map for a campaign: a long mountain range that's named some variation of "Spine of the World".
 
Why avoid it? If you would like to do something like that, you should do it!
 
I prefer simple names like "Really long mountain range"
 
@Adam Eh, I don't feel like it's a particularly imaginative name.
 
7:25 PM
@Yuuki I don't think that I can name anything "imaginatively." I find it's usually easiest, and most consistent, to name things based on their history, or some aspect about them. The dreadlands are full of dread. The sandpits have sand. And if the mapped world has a giant mountain range running through it, I think "the spine" is very fitting. At the very least in a casual sense
If you do give a mountain range a different name, you should have the locals call it "the spine" because that actually sounds kind of cool.
 
@Adam Well, I don't particularly feel like naming them fantastical names either. Something simple yet not overused.
Like three of Tolkien's mountain ranges are all named after colors.
Although I'm drawing up a map right now with a place surrounded by mountains. Naming is leaning towards the commonly used "The Wall" or maybe "The Shield".
 
If they have a rival town, the rivals should call it "the crater"
 
It's more of a country and given how isolated being surrounded by mountains would make this place, I'm considering not giving it a name at all.
 
I think i've made another mental health realization. I'm no longer going to participate on rule debate threads on GiTP and stick with just helping folks asking for character and world build/play advice.
 
@NautArch probably a good idea
what is GiTP?
 
7:37 PM
@DForck42 Giant In The Playground
 
@NautArch no idea what that is
 
I prefer my answers from SE, and I've come to much more greatly value the discussions in chat here about rules.
 
@NautArch yeah. while we might disagree on things, we mostly try to keep it civil ;-)
@NautArch I do tend to like the dnd subreddit's weekly question thread. rarely does it devolve into name calling and such, which is nice
 
@DForck42 and that's why i like it here. No one starts to act like a jackhole. And it seems everyone here is okay with changing their opinion on something in the face of more information. Or jsut saying "Yes, I see that may be RAW. But I'm going to run it this way because i like it."
 
@NautArch yup
 
7:42 PM
@NautArch cough cough, invisibility, cough cough
 
@Adam :-D
 
@Adam hehehe :)
 
@Adam You should see a doctor about that.
 
@Adam i think the one about ogre strength and -1 to str was WAY more back and forth
 
Huh. I just realized that this map I drew looks a bit like a sunny side up egg.
 
7:43 PM
@Yuuki never do cartography while hungry
3
 
Partly due to the existence of an inland sea and island inside said sea.
 
@Yuuki I should, but the doctor cant see me!
@DForck42 Really? I thought everyone pretty much agreed on that one.
 
@Adam no
 
@Yuuki Does the island have a volcano with a caldera lake with an island in it with a pond on it?
 
there was a twitter thing that KINDA sided with one, but i still disagree, but there's no RAW answer as far as i can tell
 
7:46 PM
@SevenSidedDie With an inflatable swimming pool inside of another inflatable swimming pool with a rubber ducky?
 
@SevenSidedDie isnt' that a real thing?
 
I remember that now! I told JC telepathically that his ruling was dumb and inconsistent. :p
 
@SevenSidedDie Well, my original thought was that as part of the overarching plot hook, a giant tower rises from underground on the island.
 
@DForck42 @Adam JC did respond, but then responded again and changed his response.
 
@DForck42 I think so! I can't remember where it is though.
 
7:49 PM
@NautArch yeah, which imho shows that it's not that clear cut. but, again, this is just my opinion
@SevenSidedDie i remember seeing something like this a while back... it was ridiculous and cool
 
@DForck42 possibly. I think it is, but my belief was confirmed so that skews it :)
 
@NautArch did you reply to the wrong one?
 
I haven't found the caldera lake island pond place, but I did just learn that there is a real place called Wizard Island.
Wizard Island is a volcanic cinder cone which forms an island at the west end of Crater Lake in Crater Lake National Park, Oregon. The top of the island reaches 6,933 feet (2,113 m) above sea level, about 755 feet (230 m) above the average surface of the lake. The cone is capped by a volcanic crater about 500 feet (150 m) wide and 100 feet (30 m) deep. The crater was named the "Witches Cauldron" by William Gladstone Steel in 1885, who also gave Wizard Island its name at the same time. The land area of the island is 315.85 acres (127.82 ha). == Formation == Wizard Island was created after Mount...
 
@SevenSidedDie lol
 
@DForck42 maybe? what do you mean? sorry...brain fried from yesterday's gaming :D
 
7:53 PM
@NautArch lol
 
@NautArch Did he? I can't find his response anymore
 
@DForck42 Maybe it's Taal Lake: an island (Luzon, in the Philippines), with a volcano (Taal Volcano), with a caldera lake (Taal Lake), with an island (Volcano Island), with a crater lake (Yellow Lake), with an island (Vulcan Point) inside it.
Taal Lake, formerly known as Bombón Lake, is a freshwater lake in the province of Batangas, on the island of Luzon in the Philippines. The lake fills Taal Caldera, a large volcanic caldera formed by very large eruptions between 500,000 and 100,000 years ago. It is the country's third largest lake after Laguna de Bay and Lake Lanao. Volcano Island, the location of Taal Volcano's historical eruptions and responsible for the lake's sulfuric content, lies near the center of the lake. There is a crater lake on Volcano Island. Known as the Yellow Lake or the Main Crater Lake, it contains its own small...
 
@Adam this is super weird, i'm trying to find it but it looks like JCs responses are gone...
 
WTF? An island in a lake in a volcano in a lake in a volcano on a volcano island!?
 
In an ocean in a ring of volcanoes, as well.
 
7:59 PM
If an ability score is replaced by a magic item while you wear it, a score reduction affects your score, not the sc… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/846382901147004929
 
@SevenSidedDie maybe
 
@CTWind well done! got pulled away from my desk
 
@CTWind yeah, and that's cool, but what i REALLY want is an explanation into the WHY, which this doesn't provide and leaves me as a sad panda
 
It's D&D 5e, you and your DM decide the why
 
@Yuuki is it worth me putting in another answer on your question, or is the bit I added to the comments on the winning answer enough (in hopes they may add it to support beyond pure semantics)
 
8:03 PM
@DForck42 Gauntlets of Ogre Strength are like Immovable Rods. Except instead of a rod, they're gloves and instead of spacetime, it's your strength.
 
@Trish Third-order islands aren't that unheard of, but when they're also volcanic it's more fun.
 
@Adam my why is that replacements are applied, and THEN modifiers :-D
 
@DForck42 To be fair, Twitter is a terrible place to go for "why"s (or details of any kind) :-P
 
@CTWind true dat
@Yuuki O_o
 
I believe the Sage Advice column is starting up again after April, might be able to get some more details after that if it comes up as a question.
 
8:09 PM
@DForck42 I thought you meant in world, not purely mechanically. But the pure mechanical reason may be that the wording of the item is "Your Strength score is 19 while you wear these gauntlets." So the gauntlets apply a continuous/indefinite effect to your strength rather than an instantaneous boost. It's as if they had an enchantment on them with a duration of "until dispelled" that required you to wear the enchantment focus to get the benefit
 
@SevenSidedDie but wouldn't a sub island of suboceanic level be much better? like an island in a cave under the ocean and under an island?
 
It's not a one on one exact analogy, so that isn't really what's going on, but I think it gives a good parallel idea for how you might describe it in world
 
@Trish Ooh. Is it also volcanic??!?
 
@SevenSidedDie still looking for a volcanic one, but there are islands under the andes. not precisely islands under an island... but cool too.
 
@Trish That is neat. Is there an article link on those?
 
8:13 PM
Good bacon to all.
 
@Adam yeah, there's two ways to interpret that. 1 is the "continually applied" and the other is "it's set when it's put on"
 
@SevenSidedDie I try to find the article... it was something like underground, cavern system or something...
 
tbh, it's a really niche concern, that probably won't come up more than once or twice. As long as you are consistent, it doesn't really matter which road you take
 
@Adam essentially, i read it as a replacement effect, much like polymorph
 
It's Barkskin, but for Str instead of AC.
 
8:18 PM
@Adam true
 
@ThomasWard Bacon was Sunday
(Would that it had been Sunday the past four days!)
 
@SevenSidedDie not sure WHERE it is, but this one is also cool: 68.media.tumblr.com/23f3832a656f8b8832f335f91f12e302/…
 
@SevenSidedDie bacon is today because I made bacon flavored bacon today in the bacon factory. (No but in all seriousness I was smoking bacon in the smoker earlier)
 
@ThomasWard So, making bacon-flavoured air.
 
in order to make smoked bacon, yes. Except that'll take another 3 hours.
 
8:22 PM
@Trish Wow is that ever pretty.
 
@SevenSidedDie @Trish how about this one? atlasobscura.com/places/hidden-beach-2
@ThomasWard I've been debating about making my own bacon
 
Sistema Sac Actun in mexico is a 311 km long cave system, most of it under water! it must have some islands in it. That makes it islands under the ocean level under a desert!
 
@NautArch Oh neat. Yeah, sinkhole beaches/caves are neat and all over southern Mexico. I've gone snorkling in one! It was kind of neat/terrifying.
 
@SevenSidedDie I've only done cave diving once, but really really liked it. And not just because i can't get seasick doing that :)
 
@SevenSidedDie The Sistema Sac Actun is on Yucatan. feel-planet.com/sac-actun-the-longest-underground-river-mexico and it has islands with... treelike structures XD
@SevenSidedDie What you think about a lake in a cave in a volcano on an island, about 40 miles under the surface (of the volcano)?
Kazumura Cave on Hawai.
 
8:37 PM
howdy folks, hows everyones day going?
 
howdy dammit @Skyler
 
@ThomasWard how good is the bacon, is like thick cut appelwood bacon or pre-microwaved stuff
@NautArch Hey Naut, had a good day?
 
@Trish High marks for geographic coolness.
 
@Skyler if you're smoking your own, you pick the woodsmoke and how thick you want to cut the belly
 
@Trish thats a lot of depth, at about 5 miles rock usually gets too soft to drill into
 
8:39 PM
@Skyler and how to cure/prep it before smoking. I just bought some curing powder and may have to try this :)
 
@NautArch alas, things I would like to experience once I get my first real job in the coming month or two and move out of student housing
 
I get conflicting depths... Wiki tells "65 km length, 1.1 km depth" for Kazumura Cave... maybe it was a misreading on my side, taking the length for depth...
 
actually, that brings up a question guys. Do I need certain documents to give to an employer before I can be hired
that i should always keep on hand
 
i would highly recommend getting a smoker :) I've got a simple and generally inexpensive weber smoky mountain.
 
@Skyler SSN and a valid ID?
 
8:42 PM
@Trish just the number and a drivers license then right
 
@Skyler what country?
 
@Skyler in Germany, those are two documents, and the driver's license is another one...
 
US
 
Your employer should tell you ahead of time what you need to bring in to satisfy I9 requirements for your first day/orientat9ion
 
cuz I know my mom lost my SSN card and i need to get that replaced, but then i have to get our birth certificate from back home in order to get the SSN
 
8:44 PM
Generally they want your actuall SSN card because they like to photocopy it is not required by law if you have other documents proving your citizenship
 
or passport, but I need to get my birth certificate to get an up to date passport
 
case in point a us passport is usually good for it
 
@Skyler You will need to fill out an I-9, the lasy page tells you what the necessary/acceptable IDs are
 
@Skyler Is “back home” a different US state, or a different country?
 
if you dont have a passport you can use a drivers license and a birth certificate for example
 
8:46 PM
@SevenSidedDie state
 
Skyler I would take control of all core identifying documents that your parents posses or order official copies
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blpHow would you handle the transfer of large quantities of gold in a low-magic, medieval fantasy setting? I'm am running a campaign based on a homebrew variation of Pathfinder in which magic use carries grave risks. I've been able to adapt traditional D & D tropes to work in this context rather we...

 
@JoshuaAslanSmith yeah, that's a very good idea
 
I wrote a big answer and the was like yeah this is basically a history question
 
@JoshuaAslanSmith yea, just need to actually get them even though most of it is expired or lost
 
@JoshuaAslanSmith And keep them somewhere they're less likely to be stolen or lost in a fire. A bank's safe deposit box, for example.
 
8:48 PM
@skyler what do you have currently? drivers license? state id?
 
@JoshuaAslanSmith DL, and the birth certificate back home
 
passport is back from toddler years, SSN card lost
SSN is known, typo there
 
@JoshuaAslanSmith @Trish that seems to have a lot of reasons to close. Multiple questions, opinion-based,e tc.
 
Toss in more reasons XD
 
8:51 PM
so, 5e question for dm's. in our game, we got a decent amount of gold to spare, so we went shopping. dm rolled to determine what was available. some people found what they wanted, some didn't. we had a player that was determined to get a better sword or something he could used with GWF, so he kept having the dm roll for different things. at what point would you guys have said that he wasn't going to find anything
or would have caved in and had something be available, just more expensive
 
@DForck42 DM rolled for magic item availability?
 
@JoshuaAslanSmith I think there's possibly a decent question in there, but it would have to be rewritten after doing some intro research on how wealth was moved/kept historically, so that it could be a properly RPG question on some detail of it they're still stuck on (assuming they're still stuck after researching the basic historical stuff).
 
ok, we closed it for... 4 or 5 different reasons! XD
 
@LegendaryDude yeah, for each type
 
@JoshuaAslanSmith The first five or six times, I read that as "low-magic fantasy baking".
 
8:52 PM
@DForck42 I wouldn't have even rolled a second time.
But then, I would do my magic item rolls before the game to determine what's in the shop.
 
@DForck42 How many days did he want to look? WHere was this? Was it in a town large enough for more than one store?
 
@DForck42 I feel like the UA: Downtime would have been useful in that situation. It has some rules for finding mahic items
 
@LegendaryDude You were 100% correct, for the record: twitter.com/i/web/status/846382901147004929
 
@NautArch it was in a particular town in Princes of the Apocalypse. whatever town has A wink and a Kiss
 
Of course, if we're talking 5e for real, I probably wouldn't even have let them purchase magic weapons to begin with
 
8:53 PM
but i generally agree with @LegendaryDude DM either randomly creates and then you roll to find/find cost or they've built a list.
 
They're supposed to be super rare
 
but just one roll.
 
we spent maybe a few hours in game in this town
 
@DForck42 In 3.5 there was a list that determined how much wealth any settlement had in magic items. Once that ammount was full, no more rolling would happen.
 
@LegendaryDude what do your players sink their wealth into?
 
8:54 PM
and if the item rolled was too expensive.... it wasn't available and no more rolls....
 
we're basically murder hobos at this point
 
@DForck42 that's not much time. There's basically finding the store taking up that time. FInding more than one store would likely take more time.
 
@DForck42 There are downtime rules for wealth spending
 
@DForck42 ain't nothing wrong with a murderhobo
we're murder hoboes on a mission.
 
Btw guys, since were on 5e, what level do you think its fair for a party to come across a cloak of displacement
 
8:55 PM
@NautArch same
 
@DForck42 I didn't realize there was another option.
 
sometimes our DM punishes us for it, sometimes we're punished for not murdering. It's great fun.
 
@DForck42 have a king offer them amnesty for their murderhobo ways, by offering them to buy themselves nobility for a sizeable share of their money... or face excommunication (in other words: No more revivals or healing potions for you!)
 
@NautArch Does the DM at least wear the shirt?
 
@Karelzarath the shirt?
 
8:56 PM
 
@Trish we're murder hoboing cultists that are basically planning on destroying the material plane, so i don't think the local government cares about us
 
@DForck42 when was the last time hobos were really cultists though?
 
@NautArch wait, you are player? Offer your wealth to the local governement in exchange for nobility. Then create an army, then extort the neighboring country to get more money, increase the army, then squash the cult with political backing.
 
@DForck42 ha, we're trying to save the material plane for Archduke Belial and his minions. Last night was the defeat of his greatest evil ally. THe local gov't is currently corrupted by the Belial. We're trying to figure out what to do next.
 
@NautArch saving for or saving from ?
 
8:59 PM
@Skyler sorry, WE are the murder hobos that are KILLING the cultists
 
@Trish Also my question.
 

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