« first day (848 days earlier)      last day (4108 days later) » 
00:00 - 23:0023:00 - 00:00

12:00 AM
@BESW Probably trying to wind back far enough to see the creation of the Universe and bring back proof.
 
@SimonGill Silly. That's what you hijack the TARDIS for.
 
@BESW sorry, an hpmorverse time turner.
I'd much rather not be time reversed ordinary matter.
 
@BrianBallsun-Stanton I thought a TT let you jump backwards and forwards. But having never read the books, I have no idea.
 
@SimonGill I'm pretty sure we were never shown a forward jump.
 
@SimonGill rational!harry gives us 6 1-hour jumps backwards in a 24 nominal hour period. With causality interference explicitly prohibited. (It throws creative exceptions)
 
12:03 AM
@SimonGill Diminutive Size says "When your size is a factor in combat, you can only inflict 1 physical stress per attack (but this could be improved by damage bonuses from weapons and the like)."
So I'm pretty sure the Fists:1 rating from Claws gives a max stress output of 2.
 
@BESW Cool, so they can boost it.
I'd also increase that damage cap when they gang up.
 
@SimonGill Should I increase the stress cap, or the weapon rating?
 
Stress cap
 
So...
Escalation: For every multiple of five gnomes, treat as single gnome with +1 to skills and the physical stress cap.
 
@BESW oh, and +1 stress.
Don't want a big group to fall over in one lucky hit.
 
12:08 AM
To their own physical stress track, you mean?
 
yeah
 
Transparency question: do the players get to know about the venomous bite before the characters do (whether through painful experience or the use of evaluative skills)?
 
As soon as it's used, the players know about it. You could give them the character sheet when the conflict starts too.
 
wouldn't doing that tell them about the venom before its used?
(I'm also trying to get my head around FATE and Dresden RPG)
 
@Phil yep. But FATE assumes that players have all applicable information.
 
12:14 AM
O_o
 
But it still allows secrets: so long as the GM expects to reveal the secrets as soon as they're applicable.
 
It is a bit weird to get your head around.
 
So it's equally as valid to hold the venom ability behind the screen until someone is inflicted with it, as it is to tell the players when you first throw the gnomes at them.
But as soon as venom comes into play, it MUST show up on the table.
 
ah
I think I get it
 
If players have Aspects that would imply they take an action that they aren't doing - then you can compel them to do it.
 
12:16 AM
(And the party has access to skills and rituals that can let them discover the venom ability before they engage, if they try.)
 
There was a great discussion by Tynan the other day abiout this, in fact.
 
@BESW that was why I was confused. Revealing complete information would surely mean players would never have to make use of such skills and rituals
 
@Phil Although a lot of scrying and Investigation checks will be to reveal non-mechanical information (like "where does the bad guy live?"), the fact that the Assessment option exists implies that some mechanical information is expected to be uncovered in game.
See also: investigating catches.
 
yah, that was what I thought
 
12:21 AM
But a lot of it comes down to your group's style.
 
@Phil Remember that there's player knowledge and character knowledge. The players know about the venom - the characters don't until it happens or they do some investigation.
 
It's equally valid for the PLAYERS to all know the Big Bad Demon's catch is weapons dipped in puppy tears, but for the CHARACTERS to be absolutely frustrated.
One thing I'm going to struggle with is that my players enjoy to have moments of revelation alongside their characters, and I need to learn how to achieve that while maintaining the appropriate level of transparency.
I would to see the characters at first laughing at the gnomes, and then taking them a little more seriously after someone gets bit, and then picking up a baseball bat and laughing again.
And if my players can have that emotional progression as well, it'd be very cool.
 
@BESW IN this case, then, hold back the sheet until after they've figured out there's a venom and the baseball bat.
 
@SimonGill Yeah. The venom should come out in the first exchange or two, and the baseball bat shouldn't be hard to figure out at all.
 
@BESW Actually, I expect the baseball bat (or shovel or fencepost) to come out first.
 
12:28 AM
@SimonGill The only reason I expect the venom first is that a gnome has a good chance of getting the drop on the PCs.
Speaking of which, would I call for checks vs glamour, or wait for the players to get suspicious?
(I really don't want spooked players rolling Alertness every exchange for the rest of the game.)
 
@BESW Won't that remove some of the progression?
@BESW Depends... when you introduce the mobile ones, I'd have them be moving at night and creeping up. That would be a manuever of Stealth vs. Alertness to give the players the Surprised! aspect.
 
"A red-capped little garden ornament leaps off the birdbath and clings to your arm, gnawing furiously and growling in a high-pitched voice."
"What?!"
"...you are now `Poisoned`."
"WHAT?!"
 
When they start looking for gnomes during the day, then you'd let them get suspicious or give them a check and let them know that there are more gnomes out here.
 
@SimonGill So I would call for a defensive Alertness roll.
 
@BESW That would be quite surprising. Maybe if they are distracted by watching a little garden ornament run behind a building and leading them into an ambush.
"What was that? A mobile gnome? Gotta check that out."
 
12:34 AM
@SimonGill a gnome walks up to you "brrrrriiiing" oh, it's a mobile phone gnome.
 
@BrianBallsun-Stanton You hold it up to your ear. It rips your ear off with it's teeth. Should have gone with a pay-as-you-go provider.
Or something. Late night make pun bad.
 
@SimonGill Definitely gonna have them lay ambushes.
 
With clever 80s horror movie style traps? :D
 
@SimonGill Possibly. I don't want them to be too clever, more instinctive and pack-like.
 
@BESW Probably wise. Maybe the gremlin-style adversaries turn up later? Perhaps if events turn this changeling kid to the dark side and he improves his power control.
 
12:42 AM
@SimonGill Definitely.
But by then he'd probably have moved on from gnomes.
...flamingoes.
 
@BESW I dunno - if he's going after the players again, he might use gnomes as a subtle way of reminding them why he's coming after them. And to make them underestimate the things now that they have intelligence.
 
True.
Maybe he'd use flamingoes with Inhuman Speed as flankers to drive the party into a gnome warren.
....Gnomes mounted on flamingoes?
 
@BESW Oh suburbia... how ridiculous and terrifying your horror movie tropes are.
@BESW That's awesome.
 
It's not what you don't gnome; it's what you do gnome that just ain't so.
 
@BESW Where's the pun-ishment hammer gone?
 
12:47 AM
@SimonGill The gnomes took it.
 
Gnome wonder. They are far too fertile a ground for puns.
aaaaaaaanyway - I suppose I should get some sleep now that I've watched the chatterati finish going on and on about Europe. See you guys tomorrow :)
 
@SimonGill Ta!
 
 
7 hours later…
7:39 AM
@BrianBallsun-Stanton Yo.
 
How's the jetlag?
 
I hear ya.
 
 
1 hour later…
9:12 AM
[waits patiently for Simon and Wraith to answer his question]
 
10:11 AM
@Zachiel Hi!
 
10:26 AM
@BESW Will take a little bit longer. At least you have one answer so far.
 
10:57 AM
@Rob Hey.
 
Rob
Morning @BESW
How are the gnomes?
 
@Rob Bitey.
 
Rob
@BESW BTW on the escalation, I'd suggest that every time the number of gnomes doubles past five you do +1 to skills; or it could get insane; 50 gnomes, +9 ?
So my suggestion is: 5/10/20/40/80/160 gnomes...
 
Good call!
 
Rob
As FATE flatlines out around +7 if I recall
 
11:01 AM
+8 is the highest on The Ladder. You can go over, of course, but it's not recommended as a regular thing.
And in a 6 Refresh campaign it's probably ridiculous.
 
Rob
Until they meet
GNOMEZILLA!
 
@Rob There's two players, so making two or three mobs of 15 (at +2) should provide a challenge.
@Rob GNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME!
 
Rob
@SimonGill Har har :)
 
@Rob There's actually a canonical monster that starts out as purple fiery-poo-flinging winged monkeys, but then they merge together into an equally purple fiery-poo-flinging winged gorilla.
 
Rob
@BESW I highly support any inclusion of winged monkeys!
 
11:08 AM
@Rob They're a bit out of my players' league at the moment.
Just watched the pilot for Due South. I approve heartily.
 
@BESW I remember that one - it was a fun show.
 
Rob
@BESW Re: flying monkeys; my cake at my last birthday: i46.tinypic.com/10hlpmt.jpg
 
@Rob Beautiful.
 
Awesome cake-work.
 
Rob
Was rather tasty too :)
 
11:37 AM
I bet
 
@SimonGill Thanks for the answer. It's very clear and simple.
 
@BESW You're welcome :)
 
...a search for "garden gnome statistics" did not turn up what I want.
 
@BESW Strange that. What did it bring up?
 
Garden Gnome Software, an Xbox game called Garden Gnome Carnage, some League of Legends thing, and a Fallout item.
Also a handful of usernames in various forums.
 
Rob
11:47 AM
There was a garden gnome in halflife, that achieved a mild amount of fame: http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Garden_Gnome
And of course the film Amelie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelling_gnome_prank
 
I was hoping beyond hope that I'd find something that would help me figure out suburban garden gnome distribution.
Since, um, Guam doesn't really do suburbia.
Like how many garden gnomes does the average garden gnome display have?
I'm thinking that a neighborhood largely occupied by mortal-choice changelings might have a higher than usual number of begnomed lawns, as a kind of in-joke.
 
Rob
They're quasi-popular in the UK
But still maybe only one in 40 or so houses will have one
But then, you have the nutters, whose lawns are COVERED in them
 
Wikipedia says they're popular in British working-class and suburbia, but considered inappropriate by hoity gardeners.
I have no idea where the party's going to set this, so I'm trying not to have too many plans.
There are parts of Guam that could work, if they choose to set it locally.
I'm kind of hoping for either a gated community or something like Klickitat Street.
 
Rob
Make a local gnome-faciers group who all liked Amelie and decided to get gnomes, paint them, decorate them and meet every week nearby (red herring/lead?) presto, army of gnomes
 
Or, nobody knows where all the gnomes have come from. The news thinks that there is a bored prankster in the neighbourhood.
 
12:00 PM
I kinda want the gnomes to be there, and just get animated.
 
Rob
Or, a gnome shop
 
But again, trying not to get attached to anything yet.
 
Rob
lunchtime bbl
 
Well, there's always the possibility that there's a sudden fashion for the things.
 
[pokes file systems] I always feel lost when I wander behind the scenes on a computer.
 
12:04 PM
@BESW hehe. What are you looking for?
 
@SimonGill Trying to weigh reformatting an external drive to exFat, vs keeping it NTFS and installing third-party software on the MacBooks to let them read it.
Also confused why my XP refuses to format it to exFat, which narrows my options considerably.
 
@BESW Possibly you don't have the right update for XP.
The Mac should be able to do that for you though.
 
@SimonGill I wouldn't be surprised. My XP machine is ancient and curmudgeonly.
@SimonGill I don't have any permissions for this external on the Mac.
[flails]
 
Here's the update to give XP the right files - support.microsoft.com/?kbid=955704&wa=wsignin1.0
 
Wait a minute, I just got an ExFAT format to work on the Mac. How odd.
Gonna ask my mother if she prefers third-party software or a 4GB file size limit.
Situation resolved, Windows compatibility is unnecessary.
 
12:12 PM
Fair enough then.
 
(Though had I been able to arrive at an elegant solution for both I would have been pleased.)
 
12:27 PM
@Phil Yopp!
 
Hey
 
What's new?
 
Not much - you?
How are the gnomes :)
 
@Phil The gnomes are bitey.
And my computer is overdue for a checkup, but I have a hard time clearing out a few days when I won't need it.
 
the best type
 
12:32 PM
Hmm. SotC poisons can often be stopped with +3 spin.
Is that left out of DFRPG because it has more FATE points floating around?
 
no idea
possibly because of the feel they were going for with the genre and setting?
 
Quite possibly.
 
how 'sticky' do you want the negative aspect caused by the poison to be?
 
I'm okay with needing to spend an action for medical attention.
That makes it pretty easy to get rid of... but only deliberately.
How's your FATEness coming along?
 
its not really at the moment
I don't actually have a group to run it for yet, so I'm limited in what I can do
 
12:41 PM
Fair enough. I really ought to be spending more time planning my 4e campaign's conclusion before I move on to the next campaign.
 
I've read both the books through a couple of times, and I guess the next step is for me to make some cheat sheets to help remember rules, but until I actually start using them I don't want to spend too much more time on it
 
Do you have anything on your plate now?
 
I'm now reading through the Unknown Armies book, which is likely to get a runout sooner than Dresden, simply because it is likely to appeal to my players more
 
@Phil Probably wise.
 
@BESW Not at the moment, no. I had to stop all my games due to illhealth before Christmas, and it'll be a little while before I can get back into things
 
12:43 PM
@Phil Oh, sorry to hear that.
 
I'm currently at that annoying stage when I'm well enough to start getting bored and fidgety, but not well enough to actually do anything :os
 
Glad you're recovering!
 
@Phil Maybe a bit of online gaming might get you through the dark times?
 
indeed
 
Times like that in the past I'd be crafting intricate worlds.
 
12:46 PM
yeah, rpol.net is my usual go to for online stuff, but there's nothing much going on there with the types of games I like to run/play in at the moment
 
Rob
1:03 PM
How about a PBEM? pbm.com/~lindahl/pbm_list
(There's other games listed there)
 
[face/palm] Dear clients: file size is an indication of image quality, not a definition.
 
@BESW Especially if's a .bmp or a .tif.
 
@SimonGill I just got the "I converted a JPEG to a TIFF and it's bigger! That means it's the right quality now, right?"
 
@BESW I just failed my SAN check...
 
@SimonGill You should see their faces when I tell them if I bump the resolution up from 72 to 300, the image's dimensions will be 24% of the original.
 
1:19 PM
@BESW haha
 
Rob
I have just discovered violin based dubstep, my music for the foreseeable future now includes 54% more wub
 
@Rob I have a response to that, but I think it would be incomprehensible to most and distressing to some.
Also, link?
 
Rob
Dubstep Violin Original- Lindsey Stirling - Crystallize: youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=aHjpOzsQ9YI
 
[pauses Racist Barn looping to listen]
Very nice.
 
Now that is cool. On a similar note, have you heard any Apocalyptica Rob?
 
Rob
1:30 PM
Found it randomly whilst watching a 8 bit crazy video game short
@SimonGill I have indeed; they're rather spiffy :)
 
Sterling has gained a lot of popularity lately.
There are campaigns where I'd use her stuff, but my current one is more horns and drums, when it's not Batman vs Dracula and Dark City.
 
Rob
Her doing the assassins creed 3 thing helped I suspect
I tend to use di.fm a lot for background music
 
And the skyrim too, at a guess.
 
Rob
Yarp
Although enough wub for now, time to go back to perpetually looped Bladerunner
 
2:12 PM
well... my music video library has a few more enries in it now!
 
Rob
:)
I also recommend Archive: "Bullets" and "Controlling Crowds"
 
...I appear to have lost my profile's hoverbox.
Ahah. Looks like maybe some code changed somewhere.
Usercard-specific text minimum length seems to have changed. fix'd.
I did some thought on voicework while out driving today; it helps if I can practice out loud without people staring.
I'm going to have the fat vampire Baron talk like he's in the middle of the most delicious, scrumptious chocolate cake ever.
 
2:34 PM
@BESW Appropriate. Reminds me of the idea I saw on the butter's freshness seal this morning - grate beetroot into chocolate cake to get a sweet fudgy flavour. I've got no idea hpw that' supposed to work though.
 
I'll give the fire twin a southern drawl, and she'll always couch her sentences as relaying the ideas and opinions of her brother, despite him being entirely unmoving for the whole time.
 
@BESW Goood
 
"Mah brothuh wunduhs how y'all maht know somethin' our here ministree doahn't know."
 
@BESW Excellent.
 
And the matron's minotaur zombie mouthpiece is brusk, deep-voiced, and carefully enunciated.
 
2:39 PM
@BESW nice.
 
Agenda-wise, the twins refuse to believe the party because THEY control the city's espionage networks and so if something was going to happen they'd know already (Trust Each Other and No Other), and want to arrange things so the tiefling PC falls into their hands.
The Baron wants to believe, just because it'd be a sticking point against the twins, and of course he can control the situation anyway (he's got his Despair Ray to test).
And the Matron's the only one who will be even the slightest bit objective: she needs to know what's actually going on so as to best figure out how to keep everything balanced.
 
@BESW Despite the fact that she would kill me as soon as look at me - I think the Matron is the one I'd prefer to deal with.
 
Rob
Subjectivity and reason is something you can deal with
So I agree with @SimonGill
 
@SimonGill She's ruthless and cold and will dispose of you the instant it's to her benefit... but she won't dispose of you unless it is to her benefit, which is more than can be said for the other two.
 
Rob
I tend to avoid obviously mad types if I want to make a deal
 
2:47 PM
(There's no point in expending resources for no gain.)
 
2:59 PM
This may be interesting to you @BESW - a method of handling secrets in FATE Core jrblackwell.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/courtship-secrets
 
Rob
3:14 PM
Too long until hometime
 
And too much snow on the sidewalks too.
 
Rob
I have Yaktrax, they are spiffy :)
 
3:41 PM
@Rob Yaktrax?
 
Rob
3:57 PM
Slip on ice-grips for shoes/boots yaktrax.co.uk
 
Cool. Those look pretty handy for the snow.
 
Rob
Found them very nice, you can march across the ice instead of slip all over
Horah for GM technique type questions :)
 
@Rob Which one in particular?
 
Rob
The shadowrun mage question, it's as much GM technique as SR.
New character that has USP X wants to join, how can I make the party appreciate X?
Scare/impress/wow them with X
 
@Rob hehe, I looked at that, and I just don't know enough about SR mages to give an answer that actually picks up on setting elements.
 
Rob
4:10 PM
I've played SR a bit, you can play it very lite-magic if there's no mage in the party, but put one in and the dynamic changes a lot
Although personally I prefer Cyberpunk 2020
 
@Rob Cyberpunk always struck me as a little too deadly... but that may be because the story I keep hearing is about the guy who pulled on a squad of cops from hard-to-reach holsters. One short range combat shotgun blast later and he'd lasted all of a second of game time.
 
Rob
@SimonGill Oh yes, definitely. it's very dangerous; smart players don't get into fights unless they're ready for them and have the advantage; guns after all aren't friendly things :) That said, you can coat yourself in hi-tech armour and walk around like a bullet-bouncer with enough cash
 
Rob
4:29 PM
Right, time to fleeeeee!
Happy weekend!
 
Happy weekend to you too! :D
 
 
5 hours later…
9:00 PM
 
I hadn't.
This could run for a while, couldn't it?
23 Orcs to death.
 
 
2 hours later…
10:54 PM
@SimonGill Cool.
 
@BESW I thought it would come in handy for you :)
 
Woot. We have our first "Great Answer" Badge. :-)
 
Wow, grats!
 
Congratulations :D
 
Thanks. I had to share.
Does that mean we're all grown up now? :-)
 
10:57 PM
@F.RandallFarmer Dunno. I didn't know we weren't :P
 
I was surprised to find that there weren't any others yet.
Happy to be the first, though. :-)
 
Indeed!
I just recently hit 40 on an answer.
 
00:00 - 23:0023:00 - 00:00

« first day (848 days earlier)      last day (4108 days later) »