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TildalWave
TildalWave
12:00 AM
cat and a dog here, not necessarily in that pecking order LOL ... run a shelter for small animals and had all kinds of other pets too ... not arachnophobic either
did ride on a donkey once...
 
user15026
As a kid I lived in a small country town, so all sorts of animals are familiar. :) But now I am in a small city apartment, so I just have the cat (I had frogs ,but they died, and so did my fish (they died from move-stress))
 
JohnB
JohnB
aww
 
user15026
I haven't put anything new in the tank I have because I still feel bad about hte frogs and fish dying
 
Anonymous
12:38 AM
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
1:18 AM
This tag is bothering me..
:D
 
JohnB
JohnB
Yeah, there's gotta be a better word for that
hmmm
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
 
Brant
Brant
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
could go for both with people and between animals..
 
JohnB
JohnB
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
1:21 AM
I also created controlled-environment, saw people tagging specific places like personal ponds etc
@JohnB to meta?
 
JohnB
JohnB
@iKlsR good idea
 
Baarn
Baarn
@iKlsR I disagree that pond is a generic tag. It is crucial to distinguish questions about in- and outdoor habitats.
 
JohnB
JohnB
there is only one way to settle this....your pets must fight to the death
 
Brant
Brant
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
@Baarn Disputable, but I think something general for all the future specific environs might work rather than having pond, yard, perch, cage etc
@JohnB Bring it on.
 
JohnB
JohnB
1:27 AM
D:
 
Baarn
Baarn
I don't think that it is helpful to group all those tags together in outdoor. I can imagine that some people want to look for (ie: fav the tag) questions specifically tagged with pond but don't care about creatures living in perches or cages.
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
natural-habitat and unnatural-habitat maybe?
or artificial... dunno, it's not my vocabulary day
 
Baarn
Baarn
do we have to make it artificially complicated? who is going to search for that?
 
JohnB
JohnB
I'm not on one side or another, but tag synonyms would resolve that
 
Baarn
Baarn
Just that those things are not synonymous ;)
Only because things can be put in groups, it doesn't mean that they should be.
 
 
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user15026
3:18 AM
@iKlsR I loved the Oatmeal comment link on my question, it really made me laugh
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
@AshleyNunn haha, yeah, it's a good one. :)
 
user15026
@iKlsR Ah, so I am doomed, then. ;)
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
@AshleyNunn You were warned. ;)
 
user15026
Thank you for the warning :P
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
3:50 AM
yey vox populi badge ... we should get 20 more votes when we get this badge too, it's not fair we're rewarded for voting and still remain vote capped :(
 
user15026
@TildalWave hahaha yeah, waiting for more votes can be annoying sometimes. I see why they do it, but sometimes I am like "but there is another good question or answer I want to reward"!
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
@AshleyNunn I just realized it's only 4 hours into new SE day... long time to wait for 40 more votes :(
I feel like I'm being .... conditioned! :D
one of Pavlov's dogs... :|
 
user15026
@TildalWave Yeah, I always forget that the SE day is UTC......
 
user15026
@TildalWave appropriate for a pets site I suppose ;)
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
hehe yes true
it's always the same tho with the first week of active betas ... never enough votes
 
user15026
4:00 AM
@TildalWave Pretty much. I am like "but look we are being awesome must reward the awesome oh no out of votes how can this be"
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
that's why I thought we should get more votes with those two badges ... 30 votes and 40 votes in a day, whatever the other one is called ... they're a one off anyway
re chatroom name.... any ideas?
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Q: What should our chat room name be?

JohnBRight now, our chat room's name is just Pets. I think we can do better than that, what sort of clever and appropriate name could we use instead?

discussion chat
 
user15026
I am not good at being clever :(
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
Zoolatry?
The Feral Tribune?
The Pecking Order?
Common Ancestry? LOL
...
Pet Shop Boys?
Pet Peeves
Tree of Life
The Kennel? :D
 
user15026
I like the Kennel!
 
user15026
its kinda funny
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
4:21 AM
Huh, finally pets started. Rejoice Yo mortals!
:-)
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
4:37 AM
user image
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Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@TildalWave No wonder, we knew we would be called someday :-)
 
 
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Ankit Sharma
Ankit Sharma
6:59 AM
@TildalWave i am happy that finally we gathered
 
 
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Tim Post
Tim Post
11:41 AM
Woof.
 
Baarn
Baarn
I wonder why the suffrage badge is called that way? I didn't suffer finding 30 things to vote on…
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Tim Post
Tim Post
Back in the day, we had to walk 8 miles uphill in the snow to vote on a good post.
 
Baarn
Baarn
The snow is gone and the hills are eroded. Climate change seems to have an effect on StackExchange, too.
Maybe it is called suffrage because you know that you only have 10 votes left…
 
 
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Baarn
Baarn
1:21 PM
what a nice example question on the about page
 
Beofett
Beofett
1:38 PM
@Baarn Suffrage means the right to vote gained through the democratic process :)
 
Baarn
Baarn
@Beofett this is why I love English as a second language. It makes much more fun that way :P
 
Beofett
Beofett
@Baarn That particular word is one most people who speak English as a primary language are unfamiliar with :)
In fact, there was a bit on a TV show where some pranksters went out and asked people to sign a petition to end women's suffrage (women in the US have only been able to vote since 1920). They got a lot of people to sign before someone pointed out what the petition actually meant, and how offensive it was. It was in pretty bad taste, but its a good indication of how poorly the word is recognised.
 
Baarn
Baarn
Right, I remember hearing about this prank, but completely forgot it. The "right to vote" is the most common expression today, I guess.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
1:56 PM
The word doesn't get a lot of use anymore, in many English speaking countries, because the right to vote is generally available to all citizens.
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
3
Q: Do my horses need to be shod?

SkippyWe have two horses, a thoroughbred and Arab cross that have spent most of their time in paddocks being ridden occasionally into the local bush land. They are not shod and their hooves are filed periodically. However the children are riding them more frequently and onto the road to meet up with ...

horses
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I read that as shot and now I have coffee mist on my monitor.
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
@TimPost XD
@TimPost I'm always drinking when I read stuff like this. :/
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
I try to only drink when I'm writing. Oh .. wait.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
@TimPost - LOL, I can see that first glance read
 
Beofett
Beofett
Whee! Mortarboard :)
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
2:10 PM
Congrats. :)
 
Beofett
Beofett
ty!
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@TimPost LOL..You forgot never drink coffee while infront of your laptop :P
 
Baarn
Baarn
2:26 PM
"Daily vote limit reached; vote again in 9 hours." … now I have to bookmark things that definitely deserve to be upvoted.
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
@Baarn Hit mine not too long ago too. Off to classes then.
 
Beofett
Beofett
Vote limits and reputation caps... two of the most frustrating aspects of the first few days of private beta :)
 
Monica Cellio
Monica Cellio
@Beofett yeah. This is my first private beta, and I hadn't anticipated the effect of asking a bunch of questions early. In addition to vote caps (I haven't hit the rep cap yet), some unanswered questions have already been pushed off the main page. Whee! Tag search here I come. :-)
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
2:43 PM
Yeah, I'm still answering anyways since it's about building some initial content.
 
Beofett
Beofett
@JohnCavan same. Plus its fun :)
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Yeah, a site like this makes an animal lover like me happy
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
Honestly, I thought dogs are more in number than cats as pets. But it seems it isn't quite true.
Cats questions are also dominating the front page as well as dogs.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
No, I think cats are a larger population. I love dogs, but cats are a kind of easier to keep and that tends to grow their population. Also, I think, cats have a more cross-gender appeal whereas dogs are typically more of a guy thing.
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@JohnCavan There are also dogs IMO who are like made for ladies. Dogs who have deep fur and are small in size.
 
Beofett
Beofett
2:48 PM
In my (anecdotal) experience, cat owners are more likely to own multiple pets than dog owners.
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@Beofett That's practical.
 
Baarn
Baarn
Hmm, I don't think dogs are a guy thing… all the girls I know love our labs :)
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Don't read too much into a "guy" thing, dogs are very generally popular amongst men and women, it's that I think the balance tends to the guy side more for dogs than for cats.
Cats also tend to be less work and you can leave them for a couple of days more readily. Except mine, needs medication on a daily basis.
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@JohnCavan What happened to her?
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
He has mega-colon so I need to treat him with lactulose to keep his stool soft enough for him to pass on his own. It's a fine balance though, too soft result in unpleasant messes to clean up.
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
2:56 PM
@JohnCavan I see.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Ah well, it's a pain, but less so for me than for him.
 
Baarn
Baarn
Any suggestions for a put-to-sleep tag? euthanasia sounds a bit technical to me…
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@Baarn Well I never heard it before.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
@Baarn - It's accurate though
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
but the tag-wiki should help.
 
Baarn
Baarn
3:01 PM
wikipedia distinguishes between euthanasia and animal euthanasia, that's why I was wondering if it is appropriate to use it without "animal" on a site that is dedicated to pets.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Given the topic (and that keeping humans as pets is normally illegal in most countries), it's probably safe to assume the relationship. :D
 
Baarn
Baarn
OK, I just introduced euthanasia. I think we can still change it to a more fluffy word if someone has a better idea :)
 
Tim Post
Tim Post
3:27 PM
You want to euphemise all that euthanising ? :p
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
3:48 PM
0
Q: How can I keep rats out of my chicken pen?

Kezz101I've got 5 chickens who all live in a pen that is being attacked by rats! The rats keep burrowing under the walls of the pen and it would be impractical for me to brick it up. What's the best way to keep them out without harming the chickens?

chickens
Seems off topic
 
Beofett
Beofett
@JohnCavan Agreed. Commented and VTC'd.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Me too, well voted anyways... I think livestock questions should be off topic, they're not really pet questions.
 
Baarn
Baarn
it might be on topic on diy.SE
 
Beofett
Beofett
@JohnCavan re: livestock... I see it as borderline. Some might be on topic.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
I think if the purpose is food production it's probably left the realm of pet though.
 
Beofett
Beofett
3:58 PM
To repeat an argument I made in the proposal discussion: why is "how do I do x for my goat?" fundamentally different from "I love my goat, Mark, and he's a part of the family. Yet recently I have found that I need to do x for Mark... how should I do that?"
 
Baarn
Baarn
Yeah that's my stance on that, too. As long as the animal is considered a pet in the sense of the question, the question can be on topic.
 
Beofett
Beofett
I like Skippy's definition:
"I believe that any animal or group of animals that a human being has an interactive personal relationship with could be considered a pet."
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John Cavan
John Cavan
"How to tell my cat he isn't an archaeologist?" - I really don't know how to answer this... you can't tell a cat anything, they do what they do.
 
Baarn
Baarn
… what?
wait … is it intended that you can go beyond the vote limit, when voting on answers on your own question?
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Your own questions are usually excluded from restrictions as far as I know.
 
Beofett
Beofett
4:12 PM
@JohnCavan Just tested this, and I could not upvote an answer to my question because of the daily limit.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Oh, well there you go... the other site I'm very active on I'm a moderator and we're not that super busy like this is right now.
 
Baarn
Baarn
True, I wasn't able to upvote an answer on another question I posted …
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Doh, after all this time, I just figured out how the rep score gets listed on the user board... All time is your overall score, anything else is your score less the starting 101 that gets you past the limits.
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
4:54 PM
@JohnCavan, No personal feelings.
But the question really was opinion based.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
@Mistu4u - I deleted the question, but I think that definition fits almost every question asked so far...
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@JohnCavan Which definition?
Opinion based?
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Opinion, yes, a lot of behavior questions are opinion. Even the one you asked is opinion oriented. What all of us are trying to do is crowd source the ideas because it's not like the animals can speak up.
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
I guess you can get some objective answers there having some common points. Well, you can undelete the question again flagging for the mod's attention.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
No, it's okay, I'll leave it. It may be better to do it by animal anyways. I just wanted to point out that opinion questions aren't always a problem and there is going to be a lot with site.
 
Beofett
Beofett
4:59 PM
I was actually leaning towards "too broad", but agreed that it was primarily opinion based to the point where it was a better closure reason.
 
Ankit Sharma
Ankit Sharma
Didn't know that unicorns are allowed as pet O-o
Now i can ask question on my pet dragon too ;)
 
Beofett
Beofett
Its unavoidable to get some amount of opinion in answers, and there's really nothing wrong with it.
But the best answers will have some basis in fact or logic, and then possibly expand upon that using opinion.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
@Beofett - I ultimately deleted it because I leaned towards too broad as well.
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@Beofett I agree. But that particular question was kind of "buying" suggestion.
@AnkitSharma Where? O_o then I am gonna ask about 2headed cobra I pet in my house :-D
 
Beofett
Beofett
@Mistu4u I don't necessarily have an issue with buying suggestions (although I would be very careful about how any we might allow would be phrased), so long as they provide sufficient details to work with.
 
Ankit Sharma
Ankit Sharma
5:02 PM
@Mistu4u have you noticed about page with unicorn question?
 
Beofett
Beofett
The "what kind of dogs are best for children" question is a good example... I'm still torn on whether I think its a good fit, but the answers seemed adequate
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@Beofett Actually "buying" in turn produces opinions.
 
Beofett
Beofett
@Mistu4u generally, yes, but as I said... opinions are necessarily bad, particularly if backed by fact.
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@Beofett And in some SE sites "shopping recommendation" questions are OT.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Product buying advice needs to be managed carefully, we get a ton of that on the photography site, but unlike camera gear, stuff for pets tends to stick around longer so not as likely to become dated advice quickly.
 
Beofett
Beofett
5:04 PM
E.g. if someone were to answer 'what breed dog should I buy for my kid' with reputable studies on dog bite frequencies against children, by breed, or an analysis of innate behavior tendencies by breed, and how that might correlate into positive or negative experiences for the kids, I would probably consider that a good answer
(of course, there are no reputable studies on dog attack frequencies by breed that I've ever been able to find)
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@AnkitSharma Just saw now!
 
Beofett
Beofett
@Mistu4u the majority consider them off-topic, but I believe some allow them. Or perhaps some did allow them, and then decided to change the rules to ban them.
I haven't kept up with any of the sites I recall allowing shopping questions.
We've certainly discussed it at parenting.se many times, and never have quite come to a consensus that they should be allowed, even under heavy regulation.
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
@Beofett @JohnCavan, that's why I told to undelete the question and then raise a meta to see what the community thinks about it. As the site is now currently taking shape.
If it's decided not to be OT, fine, I will definitely +vote it.
 
Baarn
Baarn
I always prefer "what should I look for in $product" questions instead of "which is the best $brand"
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Well, shopping-like questions such as "Are there products to help with situation X..." are probably good. Shopping-like questions like "I was thinking of buying X or Y, what would you pick" are bad. Shelf life of the question and answer is relevant.
 
Beofett
Beofett
5:09 PM
@Baarn That's what we try to steer people to in parenting.se. IMO, its about the only type of shopping question that really fits the platform.
 
Baarn
Baarn
especially because shopping questions are prone to carry a heavy subjective load, eg "what is the best $stuff" without describing what the OP considers to be best.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
@Mistu4u - No, I'm pretty sold on the question being too broad at this point. Less about opinion oriented really, it wasn't intended as a "shopping" question.
 
Mistu4u
Mistu4u
Anyway, you guys discuss about what should be done. I am gonna attend my dinner :-) Bye
 
Baarn
Baarn
I agree we should discuss this on meta. Sooner or later it will come up anyway
 
Beofett
Beofett
@Baarn not to mention what's "best" now can quickly become out of date.
@Baarn agreed. Anyone volunteering, or shall I write up the question?
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
5:17 PM
@Beofett - Go for it. :)
 
Monica Cellio
Monica Cellio
5:45 PM
@JohnCavan yeah, I'm looking for questions to answer, but holding off on adding new questions for just a bit.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
@MonicaCellio - I tend to answer far more than I ever ask on these sites anyways... I usually find the answers to any questions I might already have on the site before I needed it. :)
 
Monica Cellio
Monica Cellio
@JohnCavan I saw a news report not long ago that said that in the US more households have dogs than have cats, but there are more cats/household than dogs/household.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Hmm... I suspect location matters. I wouldn't be surprised that cats are more common in large cities, dogs in less densely populated regions.
 
Monica Cellio
Monica Cellio
@JohnCavan that's generally true for me too. I haven't been part of a private beta before, and the initial ramp-up is different. Usually I see questions come by and answer the ones I can, and ask less often (except for one site where I ask and answer a lot). But here I'm actively hunting for things to answer now.
@JohnCavan that makes sense. There were also regional differences reported, but I don't recall the details other than that Texas pegged the scale on dogs.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Not surprised about Texas...
 
Baarn
Baarn
5:52 PM
private beta is strange … I can access the close vote review queue without gaining the privilege…
 
Monica Cellio
Monica Cellio
I did not know you could earn Mortarboard on meta.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Yeah, it'll probably tighten up when it goes public beta.
 
Monica Cellio
Monica Cellio
@Baarn ooh, thanks for the tip!
 
Baarn
Baarn
I have no idea what the restriction was… earlier today I wasn't able to use it :)
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
6:40 PM
Hmm... You know, I don't think it really crossed my mind. I think I just assumed it was there because I'm so used to seeing it on Photo.SE.
 
 
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Baarn
Baarn
10:06 PM
Now I have to bookmark meta discussions, as I just ran out of votes there, too…
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
LOL, you don't take this suffrage thing lightly!
 
Baarn
Baarn
I wasn't really focused on getting that badge. I simply voted on stuff I liked (or disliked in one or two cases)
We already have over 100 questions on the main site. A lot of them are good and deserve the upvotes. On meta it is more about expressing consent, but as meta is the main place to form the site I think participation in the early stage is crucial.
And as I can't express some thoughts on meta due to being non-native I prefer using votes and comments.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
I agree, the first week of meta is going to decide a lot.
I wouldn't worry about your English, seems plenty fine to me.
I almost regret that I'll be going on vacation as of Saturday and may be cut off a bit.
 
Baarn
Baarn
Thanks, I know it is readable, but some things on meta are just too hard for me to express correctly (even in German I would probably spend an endless amount of time writing and deleting stuff)
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
I've been to Germany, I suspect that's more a function of the length of your words... :D
 
Baarn
Baarn
10:22 PM
Our chained nouns are highly practical! I never get why there are certain words in English that are written as one and others are separated.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
That's because we're crazy...
Actually, English is a language that kind of came together from all sorts of sounds. It's been described as the language of Poets because it's almost built to make rhyme easy at the expense of other facilities.
 
Baarn
Baarn
considering how many other European languages got mixed into English… I wonder how much of the original language is left
Why do we even need Esperanto as an artificial language that combines them all if English already does that job? ;)
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
I don't think there really was an original English, it basically formed. Consider that the English nobility spoke French until more modern times.
English is supposedly the hardest language to learn as a second language. Mostly, I think, because of things like "to" "two" and "too" amongst many others. Then there's the noun, slang, and other assorted crazy usage patterns.
 
Baarn
Baarn
I found it to be quite easy to learn. There are some irregularities, of course, but I guess every language has its complicated areas.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
10:39 PM
I think German is a lot closer to English than many people realize. I found it remarkably easy to figure out what words meant when I was wandering about Lahr years ago. I do okay with French/Italian too, but that's mostly a result of taking French lessons in school.
 
Baarn
Baarn
The biggest thing people complain about when learning German are the articles. I can't understand why that should be so hard, to me it sounds logical to simply learn each noun as a unit that always comes with that article.
I can't speak french, but I can pronounce it a lot better than most (german) people who actually speak it. When it comes to Italian… well, I wont starve to death
I had Latin lessons in school. I never really managed to learn anything about that language, but I learned a lot about the theory behind other languages.
 
JohnB
JohnB
we've had as many questions in 1 day as Tor had in 2 weeks o_o
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Tor?
 
JohnB
JohnB
 
Baarn
Baarn
\o/
 
JohnB
JohnB
10:49 PM
Good sign, gotta keep the momentum going though!
 
Baarn
Baarn
tor was the most recent proposal that made it to beta. It went through proposal and commitment phase in only two months or so…
far too quick I think.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Ah... I was wondering. Hmm... Interesting idea.
 
JohnB
JohnB
Astronomy came right after it actually
 
Baarn
Baarn
Oh right, forgot astronomy.
Not sure about pets, but I think it had an earlier proposal that was closed in commitment phase before beta?
 
JohnB
JohnB
not that I'm aware of, but they sometimes delete any trace those :\ so it might not exist anymore
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
10:54 PM
I expect the Pets site is going to get a lot of activity in the coming months
 
JohnB
JohnB
er, do you mean Astronomy?
Astronomy had a previous incarnation that I know of
 
Baarn
Baarn
Nah, I meant pets
 
JohnB
JohnB
ah. Dunno!
 
Baarn
Baarn
Me neither… just wondered that no one came up earlier with such an obvious proposal
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Good question... I wonder why about that too. I committed to it the moment I spotted it on Area 51.
 
Baarn
Baarn
10:59 PM
What I like is that pets.SE really has the potential to attract more users without an IT background to the SE network.
That might have a positive effects on other sites of the network, too.
 
JohnB
JohnB
For sure, it's very hard to launch a non-IT site
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
That would be nice. Photo.SE is loaded with IT people (self included), but I'd like to see more pure art types on it.
Apparently I'm 58 minutes from being able to vote again...
 
Baarn
Baarn
I am an IT guy, too. But sometimes the stereotypical pedantry can be a bit annoying (contrary, that's what I like most about the network, too)
Oh well, I think I wont wait until I can vote again. I can clean all those bookmarks tomorrow, too.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Have a good night, it's pretty late in your neck of the woods.
 
Baarn
Baarn
Good night guys!
Oh and: Vote me for more dog gifs!
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
11:17 PM
@JohnB I guess The Kennel is a go.
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Q: What should our chat room name be?

JohnBRight now, our chat room's name is just Pets. I think we can do better than that, what sort of clever and appropriate name could we use instead?

discussion chat
 
JohnB
JohnB
Sounds good! Would you do the honors?
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
I don't know, I'm really leaning to The Litter Box myself...
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
@JohnCavan The Litter Box sounds a bit nicer to me too. Kennel is so localized.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
Menagerie got posted, which I kind of like as being more generally inclusive of all types of pets. I voted for that one.
 
iKlsR
iKlsR
Litter Box is more general.
@JohnCavan I say propose it.
Kennel sounds good for now, has the majority of votes.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
11:23 PM
Done, I proposed it.
Wow, today has been a busy day on the site...
 
James Jenkins
James Jenkins
11:43 PM
@JohnCavan do you have cats and bunnies?
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
I had bunnies, they passed away of old age a few years ago. Great companions.
I have 2 cats right now (we had one pass away a year ago at 21).
 
James Jenkins
James Jenkins
Sorry for your loss, they are great pets.
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
At one point I had 3 cats, 2 rabbits, 7 guinea pigs, 1 hamster, 3 goldfish, 2 turtles but no partridge in a pear tree. :)
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Thanks!
 
James Jenkins
James Jenkins
:)
 
John Cavan
John Cavan
I love animals, it's heartbreaking when they pass, but having them in my life is worth it.
 

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