Vyxal

lyxal

12:00 AM

@emanresuA there was no place to put it given the layout

Sep 4 at 0:23, by Ginger

@lyxal problem is, this new design doesn't really leave space for inputs

emanresu A

... below footer? or below terminal?

lyxal

Cc @Ginger

Ginger

12:38 AM

@emanresuA these cause problems on mober

best I can do is only enable the dialog on mober and display them under the terminal on desktop

emanresu A

7:47 AM

@Ginger mober needs a lot more custom support anyway

Honestly I prefer having a codepage, at least on mobile

And also due to some weird selection box stuff you can't easily select those codepage elements

I'm not saying it's impossible to have a good mobile golfing UX, but it needs a lot more thought than "the codemirror stuff sort of works and stuff resizes properly" - and frankly I prefer the mobile v2 interpreter to this

RubenVerg

8:07 AM

the problem with the old ui on mobile is that hovering over stuff to know what it does is really awkward

emanresu A

8:19 AM

Agreed, but the new one's worse in that you can't even type anything in without resorting to autocomplete

emanresu A

11:45 AM

CMQ: Is gcd([]) 0 or 1? v3 currently does 0, v2 crashes and I'm trying to fix that

Also uh what

Ginger

@emanresuA it works well enough rn, but yeah

it's just hard to get this stuff right

I think we would be better off making a mobile version of the site

RubenVerg

12:10 PM

@emanresuA 0

the way to remember it is that GCD is an extension of Or to integers (or reals if you want), and the identity element of Or is 0 and therefore the identity element of GCD is also 0

bug?

Ginger

@lyxal how would a dedicated mobile version look? I would be able to do pretty much anything since it wouldn't have to be responsive

I might actually bake it into latest.html and mount a different root component depending on screen size

lyxal

@Ginger good question

@RubenVerg investigating

lyxal

12:50 PM

gonna have to redo the isList function

Ginger

@lyxal ~~do you have an answer?~~

lyxal

I would have thought by now it was clear I don't do web design very well

:p

Ginger

fortunately for you, I'm... okay at it!

what I'm asking you is more "how would you like Vyxal to work on mobile"

mobile is harder because you can do less with a finger than a mouse

but you can tap almost anywhere on the screen a lot more easily

lyxal

Definitely an on-screen keyboard

Ginger

so maybe a codepoint grid as a virtual keyboard of sorts? idk if browsers let you detect long-taps, but those could show info about the element

lyxal

12:58 PM

they do

long tap is how you show hover on v2

long tap + hold that is

Ginger

problem is, we have 256 codepoints and I already know that a legible 16x16 grid doesn't really fit on a phone

also: where would the terminal go :p

lyxal

scrolled down the page :p

Ginger

it occurs to me that some characters get less use than others

RubenVerg

@lyxal however in v2 after you release the long tap it enters the glyph your finger is on

lyxal

yeah that's annoying, but it shows something is possible

RubenVerg

1:02 PM

oh yeah definitely

Ginger

I am bad at mockups, so I'll just describe what I have in mind:
- same header bar at the top
- a single CM instance with header/code/footer tabs, and autocomplete turned off
- big grid of codepoints; tapping one enters it and long-tapping it opens a popup with its info card
- one screen height below that, the terminal and inputs; hitting run automatically scrolls down to the bottom

the page would be exactly twice the height of the screen

lyxal

if I weren't fixing a sorta major bug rn I'd be able to focus better :p

Ginger

oh, speaking of

something is extremely broken in theseus's permalink loader

2

A: Sith TIE-Fighter

Vyxal 3 j, 71 bytes "ᵇḟ}₇Ḟ≠[ḃṖᵉṖΩḂΦᴿ-^4ϩṙḂṖ=q₂$↑=TỌ₂⊻¥∥»ΦB1Ṛ⌐ɾḄᵏᵂᵞ↑Ḟ¿uȦ₈≤“12ykD"[=])+("⊻i6÷ Try it Online! Similar compression trick, but the lines constant and some compression advantages save a few bytes

oh wait. I think I know what it is

that permalink has the legacy format, I suspect that the translator is butchering it

fun fact: legacy permalink hashes always start with Wy and new ones always start with JT

@lyxal why'd you use escape in the legacy one smh

it's been deprecated for ages, but now it's breaking things because I didn't use it :p

lyxal

7 mins ago, by lyxal

if I weren't fixing a sorta major bug rn I'd be able to focus better :p

currently, nested lists do not evaluate properly

Ginger

yikes

lyxal

1:13 PM

which is, well, not what you want when lists are a key input

22 mins ago, by lyxal

gonna have to redo the isList function

that's what the fix is

Ginger

hold off on releasing it, this is a pretty major bug in theseus and I don't want it to get burned into the archived copy

lyxal

but it requires actually writing a decent "is this string a list" function

Ginger

okay WHAT was going on with legacy permalinks

I have to find a polyfill for escape lmao

lyxal

blame hyper not me

Ginger

@hyper-neutrino :stare:

lyxal

1:16 PM

where do you think I stole permalinking code from?

Ginger

she will answer for this

I'm currently writing my own escape() as specified in the standard

Ginger

1:28 PM

okay, done and fixed (I think)

yep!

@Ginger I'll get a start on implementing this later I think

done a lot of web development these last few weeks

also @emanresuA what do you think about that plan

lyxal

1:54 PM

@Ginger am I right to release bug fix?

Ginger

yep, I fixed the thing

hopefully nothing explodes

lyxal

mfw I can't remember whether I update version before or after release

(in the interpreter)

I'll go with after

Vyxal 3.4.6

Ginger

compile livestream

ayyy

lyxal

@RubenVerg bug no more

Ginger

I think I need to fix the version list :p

hyper-neutrino

2:10 PM

@Ginger whar

lyxal

fairly certain I stole permalinking generation from vyxapedia

Ginger

why

lyxal

github.com/Vyxal/vyxapedia/blob/…

see!

I knew it!

using escape

Ginger

we should link the discord on the index page I think

lyxal

sure

Ginger

2:14 PM

how do server widgets work...

lyxal

server widgets?

Ginger

<iframe src="https://discord.com/widget?id=936437703048822844&theme=dark" width="350" height="500" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0" sandbox="allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox allow-same-origin allow-scripts"></iframe>

this

either we put that somewhere in the page or we write our own with the API

could replace the Community link with a GH link or something and have a Community section on the page

lyxal

isn't it laready a GH linl?

Ginger

oh wait yeah it is

woops

could add a Discord link to the header and include an online count

lyxal

no need to get too fancyh :P

Ginger

2:19 PM

?

lyxal

(about the online count) :p

is joke

Ginger

2:32 PM

how's this

might remove the "online"

lyxal

what if:

but sized properly and with good font

Ginger

?

RubenVerg

to me that looks like I have 21 messages

not that there are 21 people online

Ginger

yea

RubenVerg

maybe with a person icon?

Ginger

2:41 PM

having it at the top feels weird

lyxal

Make it green

To symbolise online

Like how green circle is online status indicator on things like discord, Microsoft teams, zoom, who knows what else

That's why I used green in the paint edit lol

Intentional colour coding

Ginger

I did

hang on

lyxal

Could be moved up a tad

Ginger

moving it up looks weird on the page imo

lyxal

I kinda like it

More than just to the right

Ginger

2:55 PM

alr

I'm going to see if I can get the html bundler to let me do templating

lyxal

Anyhow bed is time here

o/

Ginger

so I'm not copying the entire header bar

gn!

Ginger

3:07 PM

@lyxal ping for when you wake up: assuming squarespace isn't lying we could get vyxal.net for US$4/yr

Ginger

4:37 PM

@Ginger this works, except for some reason it resolves script imports relative to the file which imported the template, not the template itself

do I care enough to open an issue...

user

Do it. It's dumb

Ginger

gotta love webpack plugins

it happens to work for us because of how I laid out the site, but still :p

time to make a MRE I guess

Ginger

4:56 PM

done

Ginger

5:14 PM

@lyxal could make it an icon?

why is discord inconsistently sending CORS headers for the widget API

Ginger

6:10 PM

trying to figure out how to bake highlighting on the index page at compile-time

it is proving to be nontrivial

Ginger

7:36 PM

> This is not a bug, this is the feature. I know, this can be confusing.

lmao what

emanresu A

8:08 PM

@Ginger Sounds good! Be aware that you might have to go through quite a bit of OS-specific jank to get the long tap stuff properly working

Ginger

I'm sure it'll be fiiiiiiine

emanresu A

By "popup" I assume you mean modal dialog? If you're not already planning to, you could maybe keep the thing from the v2 interpreter where you can click on any digraph version of an element, or the element itself, to add that to the codebox

These buttons

Ginger

right

emanresu A

Also uh... you might have to make the modal dialog scrollable, idk if there's anything in v3 with five digraph variations but there's probably some long stuff

Ginger

8:24 PM

that can be done

lyxal

10:19 PM

@Ginger the domain vyx.al is what I'd get if I ever got a domain

emanresu A

10:43 PM

Y'know I could actually contribute to v3 for once and fix this

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