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12:10 AM
@Mithical It might not have gotten 5 million answers in a week. But it also wasn't quite shunted away by the collective institutional racism Mr. Kal assumes his hypothetical question to get treated with either.
If anything, you certainly tried. And gave the site unanimously appreciated content in doing so.
 
 
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2:02 AM
@Mithical Wait really?
At some point I was wondering if David Morgan-Mar's Irregular Webcomic was all on-topic on Sci Fi SE, or only the majority of themes that are based on sci-fi or fantasy are, but I never thought of whether they count as Literature.
Ideally I should test these experimentally by asking good questions about all those borderline cases.
Also, ever since I pushed on Sci Fi to close that question about Jules Verne's "Around the world in 80 days", I feel guilty. I should have let it left open, but it's probably too late to change it now.
Well not really, I think my guilt started like a year or two later.
Oh, and ideally I (or someone else) should update the Order of the Stick question about Vaarsuvius's gender (on Sci Fi SE) with the new relevant information that wasn't available yet when I posted the original answer. But the current answer is much more complicated.
 
 
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7:58 AM
@EddieKal Interesting. I can't really advise since policies on how to handle that kind of post are going to vary a lot from site to site, but I'll link you to a meta thread on similar issues at SFF. The consensus in the end was that on-topicness trumps ick-factor, although we can and should edit out any unnecessary prurience. But you'll find a lot of different points of view represented in the comments and various answers there.
For this kind of thing it's really good to have a clear meta policy, IMO, no matter which way it goes. If there's a clear policy to close such questions, then people can freely vote to close without being accused of excessive prudishness. If there's a clear policy to allow them, then people can freely vote to leave open without being accused of creating an X-rated site.
 
 
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11:31 AM
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Q: How does Mérimée's Carmen mix the genres classical tragedy, romantic drama and picaresque novel?

TsundokuProsper Mérimée's novella Carmen (1845/1847) is best known as the source for George Bizet's opera Carmen (1875). The French Wikipedia article about the novella contains the following unsourced statement: Dans Carmen, Mérimée mêle les genres de la tragédie classique, du drame romantique et du rom...

 
@EddieKal I don't really know ELU policy on what to push to ELL vs just close, but as a lone close voter I tend to VTC if it's some really basic thing that anyone could know just by learning / looking up the English phrase, like "is it 'what's that suppose to mean' or 'what's that supposed to mean'?", and VTM if it has some nuance or interesting facet of the language that would be helpful to many non-native speakers, like this for instance.
 
11:50 AM
@EddieKal Very eloquent, and very decent, emphasising kindness and patience and always thinking of the personal aspects of SE (e.g. helping people as well as just building a repository of knowledge). That same user was a pro-tem mod and founding light on two of my main SE sites. Every so often I come across an old chat message or meta post and think "wow damn, that's a lot of wisdom lost from SE debates".
 
12:33 PM
@Mithical The best response you got was, unsurprisingly, the comment from BESW :-)
 
1:09 PM
@EddieKal Literary theory is on topic here at Literature.se, but you need to set your expectations realistically — this site is part of Stack Exchange, and so the audience consists mainly of computer programmers who read a book once, and not of Literature post-grads.
 
@Randal'Thor Even better was the chat discussion that led to the question. ;)
 
@EddieKal The situation with respect to homework questions is very different on Literature.se compared to, say, Math.se. On Math.se it's quite easy to turn a homework question into a question that will fly on Stack Exchange: all you have to do is to strip the "show that" or "prove that" wording.
But on Literature.se homework questions tend to be unanswerable within the Stack Exchange system. They are designed to be open-ended in order to give students a chance to show their knowledge of the text. But open-ended questions are generally too broad to attract answers here. This means we can afford to be relaxed about them.
Here's a typical example of a question that comes from a school essay prompt — you'll see that the OP has little chance of getting what they want from us.
 
 
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2:37 PM
@Randal'Thor I still hope that didn't intimidate people away from answering, though.
 
 
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5:11 PM
@Randal'Thor Hi
 
5:27 PM
Hello
 
5:48 PM
Can you please give me the list of CMs before September 2019?
 
Revision predates the CommonMark migration, so looks kinda weird.
 
Thanks
 
Monica was not a Community Manager. She was an elected Community Moderator, on six distinct sites.
 
Elected on six different sites?
 
5:55 PM
Is it possible to know why exactly she was allowed to go?
 
I mean... there's plenty of material available on Meta.SE and elsewhere.
 
No, they just report what happened. They are like a memoir.
they don’t say why the thing that happened actually happened.
All right, “If you cannot see it from web sources or public infos, then you’re not entitled to know it”
Got that.
But still a different question remains, if you permit.
 
@Knight Factually, she was officially removed as a moderator for stating a refusal to use "they/them" as singular pronouns, as she considers doing so to be ungrammatical. The situation then escalated and became conflated with the issue of Stack Exchange discussing the matter with the press, but the original reason for her removal was the issue about refusing to use member's stated pronouns.
 
@Mithical Something related to our Loong?
 
(I will note here, as someone who prefers "they/them", that I am currently working with Monica on the Codidact project, and that we are capable of mutual respect and working together, although we have argued several times over the "they/them" pronoun matter.)
@Knight No.
 
6:01 PM
@Knight ?
 
“Don’t call me ...”
“Please don’t call me “u”, “y’all” or “they”
 
Yes, please don't call me that. But that has nothing to do with what they did to Monica.
 
(That should be members' above, not member's...)
 
memebers'?
 
6:18 PM
CM is an ambiguous abbreviation. It took me a while before I understood it meant Community Manager, not [Community] Moderator.
 
It's just another case of Zitronenfalter
 
In the sense that they don't quite fold lemons?
 
Yes, exactly
 
6:32 PM
And it's possible to think of a third meaning: community member.
 
Or CommonMark. :P
 
"Contact a CommonMark"
 
(For instance, if I had used CM here, that would have been confusing.)
 
To be honest, I still haven’t understood what that “they/them” thing.
for example, if Napoleon says (referring to me) “They have not answered a single question on movies.SE”
what’s the big problem here?
 
7:00 PM
(1) What pronouns should you use if you don't know somebody's gender? (2) What pronouns should you use to refer to someone who rejects the binary male-female opposition (not just as a concept but for their own gender)?
Some people use "they/them" if they are in doubt. Some people reject those pronouns and want a new set to properly represent a third gender or gender fluidity.
 
7:15 PM
(1) I normally use “he” for everyone, and if they protest I move to “she” and try to use their username as much as possible.
(2) You mean for someone who is neither male nor female (a non-binary gender)? I haven’t met or talked to them till now in my life, or even if I have met them or talked to them I couldn’t know if they weren’t binary.
 
@Knight Would you use "he" for usernames such as Caroline, Marina or Eleni? Or Heather or Spagirl?
 
No
For heather I think I should use “he” for first time.
And if he/she objects I will change it.
 
Heather: "a common English speaking nation given name, for girls."
 
Oh!
I related it to Heath Ledger, so I got confused.
 
And, of course, you can always take a look at their profile to see if there are pronouns stated there. (Which, in this case, there are; they have "they/them" listed as the correct pronouns.)
 
7:30 PM
Please pardon my ignorance, but if someone writes “they/them” do they mean that they are non-binary?
 
Generally. Not always, but generally.
 
Why non-binary people have so much issue about pronouns?
 
*squint* Not sure what you mean.
 
non-binary people are just like us, the only difference is that they cannot reproduce. Many people in this world are unmarried (and they are binary) so why to care about sex so much? World is not about just reproduction.
 
Ah. You're mixing up intersex and non-binary.
 
7:34 PM
Yes, I’m little confused here.
transgender = non-binary ?
Transgender = abnormal mixing of DNAs
 
@Knight ...no.
 
YY:- girl child
XY :- boy child
(I don’t remember much biology)
So, if genes/DNAs are other than YY or XY then we get some problem and the organism cannot reproduce. That’s all!
 
...first off, that's incorrect; the chromosomes of a genetically male person are XY, while female is XX. However, a person's chromosomes do not always determine their sex, and do not determine gender.
 
Gender is not the same as biological sex. Hence, non-binary gender is not about fertility.
 
This is a useful chart for people who are having trouble separating between the different concepts (leaving aside chromosomes):
(BTW, @Tsundoku, could that message please be unstarred? Thanks)
 
7:39 PM
Sorry, but Inception isn't really that hard to grasp.
 
Wasn't really planning to get this deep into this discussion today
 
Gender ≉ Reproductive organs? I didn’t know that.
Why I’m still not getting what non-binary gender is?
 
@NapoleonWilson W. A. Harbinson's novel? :-P
 
Indeed.
 
@Knight There's a lot about that on Wikipedia; see e.g. non-binary gender and related articles.
 
7:44 PM
Okay.
I shall read it. But I don’t think I will understand it because we can learn only those things that we can observe, that’s why Quantum Mechanics is so hard, we don’t see particles behaving as waves in normal life.
 
Realizing the oddly intuitive relation to quantum mechanics is a first step. ;-)
 
@NapoleonWilson Hey! Is this non-binary thing related to what we saw in “Dressed to kill” ?
 
@Knight A little. But that film is from the early 80s and might have a much less refined treatment of the topic.
 
@Knight I'm not so sure about that. I don't need to observe what goes on in a computer in order to make it do certain things by writing and executing software programs.
 
It concentrates more on sex than gender.
 
7:47 PM
Was Dr. Eliott non-binary? (Along with dual personality)
 
in The Screening Room, Dec 19 '19 at 17:53, by Napoleon Wilson
So you could say the message of the film is "don't supress it like that". But as said, the film's treatment of this rather sensitive issue could be seen as a little crude nowadays.
 
Aha! ;-)
 
It's a thriller from the early 80s, when gender was, I really don't know what it was, but most probably not what it is today.
 
Is gender that you’re talking about is related to sexual pleasure?
 
*sigh*
 
7:50 PM
Also, Brian DePalma, like his big idol, has time and time again been accused of misogynism, so he might not be treating the topic with the utmost sensitivity or scientific accuracy.
 
:55332000 Sounds ace to me. ;)
 
It’s like a drug, once we do it we get addicted to it. Sometimes, I think how nice it would have been if my friends haven’t told me about intercourse to me.
I admire how Monks and saints lived, they were awesome.
@NapoleonWilson What were your majors in University?
Maths, Computer and ?
 
I didn't have 5 million diverging subjects. I studied computer science and that's it.
 
Lol
 
And some math on the side, but I oriented towards numerics, so that's "computer math", too.
 
8:01 PM
Do we get a job the day our final semester exams get over?
And from the next day we start going to office?
 
Why do you keep constantly removing your messages all the livelong day, though?
@Knight Yes, that's how it works. You basically get your occupation chosen and ready-handed together with your diploma.
 
Coz I have been in the h bar where I was asked to remove anything that has possibility of getting controversial. According to the h bar, anything can get controversial.
 
Also true.
Still, it's kind of confusing.
 
@NapoleonWilson reminds me of the graduation scene in Full Metal Jacket
 
But you can see all my removed messages. You are a superman ;-)
@FadedGiant Is Germany really like that?
 
8:04 PM
@Knight It's how humans reproduce. In vitro fertilisation can be expensive and frustrating (as far as I know).
 
@Knight No.
 
@Tsundoku That desire of reproduction drives us insane.
 
Only if you let it. You don't want to constantly copulate? Then you don't have to, just because your friends tell you to.
 
@Knight I can't confirm that. I wouldn't be on Literature Stack Exchange if it did.
 
Didn’t you people ever face that compulsion?
It’s like devil on you, you want to stop but your hands cannot stop.
It’s like OCD, but docs tell you “you don’t got OCD”
 
8:08 PM
I think we've rather diverged from the original topic at this point, though ;)
 
We can return to gender issues if you'd prefer that.
 
Okay.
 
@NapoleonWilson Not especially, thanks.
 
but please tell me how gender is not same as our organs?
 
@Mithical Then count yourself lucky.
 
8:10 PM
Right. Let's go read books about monks. The Name of the Rose for example. ;-)
 
Or not.
@Tsundoku Or The Monk.
Both really nice.
 
Does Redwall count? :P
 
What they are about? Google search shows Murder Mystery
 
Mostly, yes. Intermixed with a lot of philosophical debates on medieval theology and church politics.
 
Reminds me of Thomas Beckett
 
8:14 PM
Wikipedia doesn't have a category for books set in monasteries. I'm shocked.
Ah, there's also The Monastery by Walter Scott.
 
@Tsundoku How do your students call you? Mr. (your surname), Mr. (first name), Prof. (Surname) ??
 
@Knight Mr. + surname. This is Germany.
 
"Yo, Tsu!"
 
"Servus!"
 
Are you teaching in Bavaria or are you a Latin teacher? Or both?
 
8:18 PM
But your name is available in your website, can I take it here?
He teaches IT
 
I no longer use my real name on Stack Exchange.
 
Okay.
@NapoleonWilson Do they have free coffee in your office?
 
Free for me, yes.
 
@NapoleonWilson You can occasionally hear "Servus" in Baden-Württemberg, but not nearly as often as in Bavaria in the mid 1990s.
 
:) I’m imagining some staff/waiter is coming at your desk and saying “Mr. R.. here is your coffee”
 
8:22 PM
The secretary, yes. And then I give a clap on her butt and say "Thank you, sweetie".
But no.
 
@NapoleonWilson "her" or "their"?
 
33 mins ago, by Mithical
*sigh*
 
@Knight There's also Ellis Peters' series of novels about Brother Cadfael, a medieval Benedictine monk who solves crimes.
 
@NapoleonWilson Why?
@Tsundoku Okay.
 
@Knight What why? It was a dumb joke on cliché office sexism. That doesn't actually happen in our company.
We don't even have a secretary.
 
8:28 PM
That’s good. Because I have an image that C.... R.... is a very decent and cultural man and he won’t ever do anything like that.
 
o_O
But yes, I'm an excellent human being at the peak of the species's decency.
 
:)
Do you wear carbon black denim and a t-shirt or dress in proper suit for office?
Your 6000$ suit.
 
Everybody in Germany is required to wear carnival masks all day. For now, at least.
 
:)
@Tsundoku When you deliver the lecture, do you walk around or just stay at some place? And do you ever make some student out of the class if they talk or laugh in between :)
 
Only when shopping and using public transport, though. Both things I prefer to avoid if possible. ;-)
 
8:33 PM
@Knight I need to point at things on slides or web pages, and demonstrate certain things at the computer, so there isn't much opportunity to walk around.
 
I imagine Tsundoku entering the lecture hall/class room and taking off his blazer and putting it on the chair and saying “All right, quite down everyone”
 
When they get too noisy, I spank them. What else can you do?
 
...what did I just walk back into
 
Maybe you shouldn't constantly leave and then play surprised what happened. ;-)
 
@Knight Oh no, when I walk in, I expect everyone to jump onto their desk and shout, "O Captain, my Captain!"
 
8:36 PM
Hahahahaha
 
But the students refuse to do that, citing health and safety regulations.
 
Have you ever spanked a student and the whole class started laughing?
 
Or they've read that article on how stupid that scene is and how it destroys proper literature education.
 
You know I never found “I sing my body electric” sexual until someone on YouTube told me that.
I liked it, but after knowing that it was about sexual matter I put it aside.
 
@Knight I assume you mean I Sing the Body Electric. Or are you referring to a parody of that poem?
Apparently, there is a question What is the meaning of “Body Electric”? on English SE.
 
8:49 PM
@Tsundoku Yes, I referred to that Whitman’s poem only.
It seems like I’m the only non-European here.
 
I think Mith is also non-European. But almost, yes.
 
...Depends how you define "European"...
 
Right. Are the Maiar European?
 
They're cosmopolitan.
 
@Mithical Someone who lives on European continent.
 
9:03 PM
Or maybe not, because they don't really like anyone but their precious elves in their precious little niche of the world.
So maybe they're the Europeans of Middle Earth. ;-)
 
Won’t you sleep Napoleon? It’s late.
 
@NapoleonWilson Unless you see the Valar as symbolising a colonising power and Middle-earth as their colony, much like Europeans used to colonise other parts of the world.
 
And you people got Monday tomorrow.
 
Now you care about my sleeping and work schedule, too?
 
Yes :-) I have to
 
9:06 PM
No, frankly, you don't.
 
My cousins who works in Heidelberg Cements, have his day off on Mondays.
 
@NapoleonWilson Lol I know I wasn't being fair to Movies SE with a mere hypothetical. But no "collective institutional racism" is meant by me as part of any particular site in the SE network, but I do believe it is ingrained in the fabric of society and SE members, inevitably, are part of society
 
It really feels good when you got holiday on Monday.
hello Eddie
 
Indeed.
 
@Knight Aloha!
 
9:09 PM
Aloha?
Oh!
 
@Knight I mean hello. Feeling a bit Hawaiian today.
 
Lol
 
Because of that Maui question? ;-)
 
@EddieKal Mára rë!
 
@NapoleonWilson Perhaps so :)
@Randal'Thor That's a new one
 
9:12 PM
I thought I'd stick with the Middle-earth theme.
 
@Tsundoku I was more thinking of modern Europeans.
 
Hey since I know some of you guys are sci fi buffs, quick question:
What do you call a new invention of a science fiction?
Like something unique
 
Other than a "new invention"?
 
I thought there was a technical term for that. Like that writer's invention, unique to a work of science fiction
Right
 
Groundbreaking ?
 
9:15 PM
Like a MacGuffin. A literary device that moves the plot
 
I would have said "innovation", if you hadn't limited it to a term specific to science-fiction literature.
 
Oh, you are looking for something professional
 
I thought there was a term in literary theory for such a device
Yeah
technical, I would say
 
Oh, so not actually a new invention.
 
I think I’m the only one (almost) who is not a mod in this room.
 
9:16 PM
I'm a scifi noob. If you want to impress people with a posh term for something truly unique, you can call it "hapax phenomenon". (Just like a "hapax legomenon" is a word that is documented only once in the literature.)
 
@Tsundoku Orome and Vána are Eurasian, though they travel to the Undyling lands often too; Ulmo is everywhere; the rest probably don't count as European, but they can visit any time.
 
I can almost hear people frantically googling now.
 
@Tsundoku Learned something new. Thanks. But not really what I am looking for. Maybe I am mistaken. I thought I'd read about such a device/concept. Blanking on it is driving me crazy
never mind then
 
That might be wishful thinking.
 
But the distance between continents is smaller for them than for humans, so they don't have to stick to one continent or have awkward airplane trips.
 
9:20 PM
@EddieKal How do you mean? Like the first occurrence/invention of a specific fictional scientific phenomenon?
I guess we're talking hard sci-fi, otherwise any scientific phenomena could be pure technobabble and not described in any identifiable way.
@Tsundoku Like many people, I only know "hapax legomenon" from University Challenge ;-)
 
@Randal'Thor For example, the world of Nightfall hinges on the idea that the world has been illuminated at all times but is destined to fade into perpetual darkness. That is its central idea. And every sci fi story has a central idea. Maybe a new innovation. Maybe some essential things that make it different from our world
I thought there was a technical term for that thing. That central idea that the entire story is based upon.
 
@EddieKal (Reminds me of George R. R. Martin's first novel, Dying of the Light, written a good thirty years later.)
 
@Tsundoku I need to read it then.
 
Together with the earlier discussion it reminds me of Nightfall on Middle-Earh, the music treatment of The Silmarillion. ;-)
 
@EddieKal From the point of view of literature in general (i.e. not just scifi), "central idea" sounds like "(general) theme", but that means something different that "premise" at the level of the story or plot.
 
9:28 PM
@EddieKal Hmm. TV Tropes has some terminology for the first works to use, intentionally use, or popularise a given trope, but I'm not sure if those tropes are used in scholarly study or just invented for TV Tropes.
Over on SFF there's a large tag devoted largely to "what was the first occurence of this theme/trope in sci-fi/fantasy" questions, but I don't recall seeing any special terminology for that.
 
Thanks everybody.
 
Ooh chat's busy today
 
Occasionally that tag throws up some really unexpected gems. Who'd have thought that H.G. Wells wrote a novel about nuclear war in 1913, for instance?
 
@NorthLæraðr Rand is a good host, he allows his guest to have fun :)
 
Oh hey @North! Did you see we have another Korean topic challenge proposal? :-)
 
9:32 PM
@Randal'Thor Yup! I definitely upvoted that :)
 
@NorthLæraðr :)
 
I can't remember any topic challenge suggestion gathering four upvotes within a single day.
 
So since some texts are hard to come by online, if I got my texts from a certain site and posted them here would it be considered a shady practice?
 
Posting entire copyrighted text is a bad idea. It's like relicensing copyrighted text under the Creative Commons licence, which only the copyright holder can do.
 
@EddieKal I'm Korean so all things Korean fly by me well :)
Though I'm not sure I'd be able to help out with Korean poetry as much
 
9:36 PM
Posting links to copyrighted texts is fine if those texts were published online with the copyright holders permission. Otherwise you're encouraging the use of texts that violate copyright ...
 
I hear you.
 
In the past, we discussed, e.g. stories by Nalo Hopkinson that had been published online with the author's permission.
 
@NorthLæraðr Too bad I missed the Korean folklore challenge you suggested. I'd have been all over it
 
@EddieKal I mean you still could. It just isn't Korean topic challenge anymore
It wasn't very eventful, sadly
 
I hope to do some research into that smoking-tiger question next weekend.
 
9:40 PM
@Tsundoku Ahaha YES
 
@Tsundoku Icelandic sagas did even better in gathering votes fast, but that was a long time ago. I remember it because that proposal almost overtook the then-leading one at the time the first-ever topic challenge was announced:
Mar 25 '17 at 22:59, by Napoleon Wilson
@Librarian Very very unfortunate timing.
@EddieKal Some of our topic challenges have been more successful after the challenge period than during it. I'll be happy to continue posting Korean folklore questions now that we have two people who know about it :-)
 
@Randal'Thor I didn't know that; that happened before I joined the site.
 
@Randal'Thor I see I gave you the wrong impression again... I know nada about Korean folklore but I'd love to start reading. I am familiar with Japanese and German folklore (and some other cultures' to lesser and varying extents) and have some knowledge about studies on oral storytelling. Always wanted to read Korean folklore and compare it with other East Asian/European oral traditions that I am more familiar with
 
Ooh, I think I have an unanswered question about German oral folklore ... rummages
 
Being called away on an urgent matter. Later.
 
9:51 PM
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Q: How long did accounts of the Sängerkrieg last as purely oral literature?

Rand al'ThorThe Sängerkrieg, or contest of minstrels, was an event which (supposedly) took place at Wartburg Castle in Germany in the early 13th century. Since its veracity is disputed, I assume there weren't any contemporary written accounts of it, so presumably the story of the Sängerkrieg lasted a long ti...

It does have an answer but I wasn't very satisfied with it.
@EddieKal OK, whenever you return ^ there's a question you might be interested in :-)
 
@Randal'Thor Three deleted answers. I need to get to the local library again to do some research on that topic.
 
@Randal'Thor Oh I have heard of the Sängerkrieg. Comes back to the tab and pretends to have just returned Oh the question is too hard for me. I um forgot something. pretends to be AFK again
 
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Q: What does "balks account" mean in Walt Whitman's "I Sing the Body Electric"?

Rand al'ThorWalt Whitman's poem "I Sing the Body Electric" is a sort of celebration of the human body. A phrase that recurs a few times is "balks account": The love of the body of man or woman balks account, the body itself balks account, That of the male is perfect, and that of the female is perfect. The e...

 
@Tsundoku But none of the deleted answers are serious attempts, just the Bounty Troll.
@EddieKal :-D
 
I haven't seen anything from the bounty troll in years; they still around?
 
10:04 PM
I think the mutiny of the bounty troll has come to an end.
 
I know they're still around on Academia.SE; I'm mostly just wondering if my suspension of them at one point on Lit was able to stop them here since then
(Since every time they recreate the account it'll get auto-suspended to serve the remainder of the suspension)
looks like that would've been... Feb 6, 2019?
 
10:28 PM
Here is what I have been able to find so far: In the Anglophone sphere Maria Dobozy has written about the Sangerkrieg in her work but only in passing. I haven't found any other Anglophone scholarship on it. A lot of the sources all point to Burghart Wachinger's Sängerkrieg. Untersuchungen zur
Spruchdichtung des 13. That is our best bet to find any credible account of the Sangerkrieg. Unfortunately I can't get my hands on that book. And considering how horrendous my German is I will spare myself the embarrassment
Also some reviews comment on how unsubstantiated the Wachinger book is...
 
10:51 PM
@EddieKal I found this book by August Koberstein, printed in Fraktur :-)
 
@Tsundoku Nice find. Are you able to access its content (either online or in print)?
 
@EddieKal Yes, it's in the public domain now and can be downloaded for free.
 
@Tsundoku Do you mind me asking where this book can be found and downloaded? Google only takes me to Amazon, eBay, and some random e-commerce sites.
 
@EddieKal You can also find it on Archive.org.
 
11:55 PM
Back from writing up another answer, since nobody told me to go to bed.
 
But you people got monday tomorrow!
 
Our percentage of answered questions has gone up and down between 74% and 75% in the last few days.
Oh no, Monday is today. I heard it on the news almost two hours ago.
 
Also true.
 

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