The Reading Room

1:00 PM

Well, I shouldn't just cross-post, I have to improve it a bit, but still.

There's no Jules Verne questions here yet, so I'll definitely have to try to ask some. (I have Verne questions on Sci Fi and on French Language SE).

steelersquirrel

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Q: Did Shakespeare's audience believe Measure for Measure to be realistic?

In the play Measure for Measure Vincentio, the Duke of Vienna, leaves his city in the charge of a judge while he goes on a "diplomatic mission". It transpires that he has not, in fact, left the city at all but has disguised himself as a monk and remained to spy on the actions of his courtiers. ...

Is this on topic?

Also...what is the final consensus on Author tags? I'm just curious. I just saw inconsistencies in the tagging on some of the questions. I just wanted to double check.

Look at me being all serious and stuff ;)

Rand al'Thor

1:17 PM

@steelersquirrel There isn't one yet, but most of the answers on meta say use 'em.

@steelersquirrel So serious that for a moment I wondered if it was your sister on your account :-P

steelersquirrel

@Randal'Thor So, should we be editing questions as such?

Rand al'Thor

But yeah. I'm going ahead and using author tags until/unless there's a clear consensus not to.

steelersquirrel

@Randal'Thor Hehehe! Well, maybe if she knew what a tag even was...;)

Rand al'Thor

@steelersquirrel I'm not sure. I'm tempted to do so, but given that there's no clear consensus yet, people may get pissed off at us retagging their questions.

@steelersquirrel The meta is here, if you're interested in checking votes:

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Q: When should I use an author tag?

If I my question is about a certain book by an author, should I use the tag for both the book and the author? Or just the book? What's the purpose of these author tags in the first place and when can I use them?

discussion tags

b_jonas

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Q: What fictional series has the longest release to completion?

I am being inspired by George RR Martin and his A Song of Ice and Fire series which is currently at 21 years (A Game of Thrones was released in 1996) since the publication of the first work in the series and will only grow as the series is not finished. What series in fiction has the longest ti...

fiction timeline

^ I wonder if radio play series (radio soap operas) count as literary works here.

steelersquirrel

1:26 PM

@Randal'Thor Yeah. That makes sense :)

A J

Squirrel on another tree. :P

steelersquirrel

@AJ Hey there! What are you doing here? Did you join this site too? How exciting!!!

A J

Yes

Mithrandir

I have another self answer ready for tomorrow, if nobody answers it before then. I hope they do, since the answer is ''we don't know"

A J

How many of us here got a degree in literature or related field?

steelersquirrel

1:30 PM

Even Himarm and Skooba are up in here! Let the chaos ensue!!! <awaits Rand to explode> ;)

A J

Anyway, I have to go

Mithrandir

Adios

steelersquirrel

@AJ Not me. I have my BSN in Nursing. That's it.

Mithrandir

@AJ I never went back to school for 1st grade.

A J

I have degree in Engineering.

steelersquirrel

1:31 PM

Woot!!

A J

What about @Randal'Thor

steelersquirrel

Don't worry. Any time now, I will be Twitter stalking authors...too bad I can't Twitter stalk Shakespeare, Poe and Hemingway. Dammit! ;)

@AJ I don't know. There is still no confirmation whether or not Rand is a robot ;)

b_jonas

@steelersquirrel Right. That's connected to chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/34878333#34878333

Rand al'Thor

@AJ The highest qualification I've got in literature is a GCSE, but I've been a dedicated bookworm all my life from a very young age.

b_jonas

@AJ I don't. But I have a degree in maths so I know for a fact how little degrees actually matter.

Rand al'Thor

1:35 PM

@b_jonas Yeah, who needs degrees? Radians are where it's at!

@steelersquirrel Don't worry. You just need to master time travel, and then you can go back in time to ask them questions on Twitter.

steelersquirrel

@b_jonas Yeah. The dead authors are much more interesting ;)

Rand al'Thor

> @DVK That's exactly what I did: went back in time and set up a Twitter account to ask. I feel you aren't appreciating the lengths I went to in answering your question, discovering time travel and all :-( — Rand al'Thor ♦ Jan 15 at 22:03

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b_jonas

@Randal'Thor Doctors and lawyers do, because for them, a degree is a requirement for getting a permit to practice as a doctor or lawyer resp.

Rand al'Thor

Like I did ^^

Himarm

steelersquirrel

1:37 PM

Hehehe!

HIMARM!!!! OMG!!!

b_jonas

@Randal'Thor Or sometimes you can look at interviews with the wife or child of the author. Like all that stuff Christopher Tolkien wrote.

Himarm

the memes have arrived

b_jonas

Then there's Einstein and Yogi Berra who have both said that they didn't say most of the things people quote with their name on the internet.

Rand al'Thor

@Himarm We ain't having no memes in here. This is Literature; we set a higher standard for debate.

:-P

Himarm

its got shakespeare on it

its ontopic

steelersquirrel

1:40 PM

@b_jonas Yeah, but there are times when the spouse doesn't have the author's interest in mind. Hemingway's widow published "A Moveable Feast" posthumously and edited out important information that should have been included. Hemingway was professing his love for his first wife in the work and she took it out, so, I don't trust spouses sometimes.

b_jonas

@steelersquirrel Yes, people sometimes accuse Brian Herbert or Christopher Tolkien or Michel Verne that they aren't faithful to their fathers' work.

steelersquirrel

@Himarm Hehehe!!! I need to find a picture of Shakespeare wearing a Steelers jersey to post in here and make it on topic ;)

Ohhhh...perhaps that should be my first question!! I have to make my first question about my favorite book and I just don't know what to ask because it's a memoir! Hmmmm...

Mithrandir

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steelersquirrel

HAHAHA!!! YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Even Shakespeare wants the Steelers to beat the Patriots on Sunday!!! ;)

Rand al'Thor

@steelersquirrel Are you telling me you don't know about this guy:

William Shakespeare (American football)

William Valentine "Bill" Shakespeare (September 27, 1912 – January 17, 1974) was an American football player. He played at the halfback position, and also handled punting, for the Notre Dame Fighting Irish football teams from 1933 to 1935. He gained his greatest acclaim for throwing the winning touchdown pass as time ran off the clock in Notre Dame's 1935 victory over Ohio State, a game that was voted the best game in the first 100 years of college football. Shakespeare was selected as a consensus first-team All-American in 1935 and was posthumously inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame...

> Shakespeare was drafted in the first round (3rd overall selection) of the 1936 NFL Draft by the Pittsburgh Steelers. The 1936 draft was the first official NFL draft, and Shakespeare holds the distinction of being the third player ever selected in an NFL draft, the first Notre Dame player to be drafted in the first round, and the first first-round pick for the Steelers.

b_jonas

1:47 PM

2 hours ago, by b_jonas

https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Tudakoz%C3%B3/Arch%C3%ADvum/2016-08‌-25#Hangfelv.C3.A9tel_.E2.80.9CA_k.C3.A9p-mutogat.C3.B3.E2.80.9D is what might be a "shopping" question: I'm trying to find a good voice recording of reciting a particular poem. Is that on topic?

^ Still asking if this would be on topic.

A J

@Randal'Thor what is GCSE?

Mithrandir

VTC: Shopping

Rand al'Thor

I think @steelersquirrel has finally exploded on hearing that William Shakespeare played for the Steelers.

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steelersquirrel

@Randal'Thor OMG! No! I haven't heard of him! AWESOME!!

Mithrandir

@Randal'Thor starbait

Rand al'Thor

1:49 PM

@AJ What they used to call O-level. The real-life equivalent of OWLs, if you know Harry Potter.

A J

Oh yeah

steelersquirrel

That's totally starbait!!! I don't care. It has to be starred!!! ;)

Mithrandir

@Randal'Thor I don't know anything about Harry Potter.

Rand al'Thor

@steelersquirrel So that's why you signed up for this site!

Ankit Sharma

@steelersquirrel lol

Rand al'Thor

1:51 PM

Incidentally, did you notice you and I have adjacent user IDs (17 and 18)?

b_jonas

Oh, I got one!

Mithrandir

I'm all the way at user #58 because it launched during supper

Rand al'Thor

I was hoping for a single-digit user ID, but they took me by surprise by launching the site a couple of hours early.

steelersquirrel

@Randal'Thor Hehehe! You figured it out! Dammit! Well, in all seriousness, I am a huge Hemingway fan and I do enjoy some Shakespeare and I am a fan of certain authors and literature. I don't like Harry Potter and stuff. I hope that stuff stays on sci-fi ;)

Ankit Sharma

wow steeler ruling the starboard here too

JNat

1:53 PM

@Randal'Thor Still got a single digit question, no?

b_jonas

@Randal'Thor Single digit is very difficult.

Rand al'Thor

@JNat Yep! Question #2 on both main and meta, I think.

Mithrandir

I have #12 on main. I was late.

Rand al'Thor

I've done a bit of research on your Svidrigailov question, btw. Haven't come up with anything worth posting yet.

steelersquirrel

What are you guys even talking about?

Rand al'Thor

1:55 PM

I did read Crime and Punishment, but it was several years ago now.

steelersquirrel

What's a single digit user?

Himarm

they mean they pressed join site first

JNat

@steelersquirrel Your user ID

Rand al'Thor

@steelersquirrel User ID.

Ankit Sharma

@Randal'Thor it doesn't matter.

JNat

1:56 PM

Meaning you're one of the first 9 people to create an account here

A J

This is the top-most user id I got.

Rand al'Thor

@AnkitSharma Sure. 17 was always my favourite prime number anyway, so I'm satisfied.

Mithrandir

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Q: What types of non-fiction are on topic?

Having read the current tour the "ask / don't ask" is short an vague. Now I would expect that since we are currently in private beta. However, to me a big definition on scope would be a debate between fiction and non-fiction. Ask Specific issues with literature Real problems or que...

discussion scope

Ankit Sharma

@Randal'Thor What matter is your content on site and how you contribute to the community

@Mithrandir That's why I said we need a bookworm bot

Rand al'Thor

@Mithrandir I'm out of votes.

steelersquirrel

1:58 PM

Ahhhh...gotcha :)

Rand al'Thor

@AnkitSharma Of course. I do love a bit of numerology though ;-)

Mithrandir

@AnkitSharma I know. Elect me RO and I'll set one up, if possible ;)

b_jonas

Users 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 here are SE employees or community moderators, who may have signed up before the site even became private beta. User 8 is Yannis.

Rand al'Thor

@Mithrandir BESW is ahead of you in the queue :-)

Mithrandir

waves hand dismissively

Ankit Sharma

1:59 PM

@Randal'Thor My userid on movies is 1190 and it changed nothing for me

steelersquirrel

Watch out! Mithrandir is already power hungry! ;)

Mithrandir

:D

b_jonas

They sign up early so that the site has users with moderator powers even before moderators pro tem are chosen.

Ankit Sharma

@Mithrandir I can do it without being RO

steelersquirrel

Time for work! I'm outta here :)

Rand al'Thor

2:00 PM

I'm out. @Mith @steeler You kids behave yourselves ;-)

Mithrandir

@AnkitSharma You're blue.

@Randal'Thor never

Ankit Sharma

I am even ready to make one but waiting for community consciousness

@Mithrandir RO can't name the chat bot :P

Mithrandir

No? heads to check

steelersquirrel

WOW! Rand didn't even include Himarm in his usual "behave yourself" warning! What's happening with the world? ;)

Ankit Sharma

@DForck42 and @NapoleonWilson here too, looks like a full house

DForck42

2:03 PM

mornin

Ankit Sharma

@steelersquirrel looks like your son is waiting for you in screening room

@DForck42 afternoon

~~evening~~ morning

Mornin' ;)

:-D

2:04 PM

:p

Napoleon Wilson

@steelersquirrel There's already a behave yourself" warning in this room? o_O

Ankit Sharma

What is it turning into MOS now

::Run for ur life guys::

DForck42

@NapoleonWilson lol

b_jonas

@Rand al'Thor you might want to change the notice about this site in your user profile bio field by the way.

Napoleon Wilson

And maybe on the millions of sites the bear Area51 promotion ads. Or will the just change to beta ads automatically?

My user ID is exactly 1 larger than the one on Movies & TV, which is nice, I guess.

And I didn't even commit to Literature.

Ah, well, I guess then they can as well stay. But at some point a more exciting ad might be considered still.

A J

2:11 PM

@NapoleonWilson Fun fact: your user id is going to be the same of your age after 20 years. ;P

Napoleon Wilson

Indeed.

Ankit Sharma

O.o

Napoleon Wilson

@AnkitSharma Well, I appear and everyone goes silent, so there's that. ;-)

Ankit Sharma

@NapoleonWilson I like silent more then drama

Napoleon Wilson

Well, I think William Shakespeare is most commonly know as just Shakespeare, isn't he like Cher? ;-)

I'd never call Goethe by any of his forenames.

Ankit Sharma

2:22 PM

I think I am more here because graphic novels are on topic and I need a place for my future comics/novel questions

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Randal'Thor bit hard to do when it's literally midnight for you ;p

just woke up, it's 06:30 on the dot here

DForck42

@AnkitSharma do eeet

Ankit Sharma

2:45 PM

hmmmm I will

b_jonas

Himarm

stanard?

b_jonas

@Himarm Yeah. "STANDARD" doesn't fit in the image.

Himarm

lol

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

so you use himarmspeak

makes sense

Himarm

2:52 PM

id say standar

b_jonas

Besides, it's the wrong image too. It should use the image for the first appearance of the knout, when it's used against Michel Strogof, because that part of the story illustrates the high standard for debate better.

DForck42

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ lol

@b_jonas you take a look at the meta I linked to you in that one comment?

b_jonas

@DForck42 which meta linked where?

meta.literature.stackexchange.com/a/30/139]

must be that one

I did look, but then this question literature.stackexchange.com/q/128/139 isn't completely a dup, it's a subset of what the broader question on Sci Fi is asking.

DForck42

@b_jonas that's what I was aiming to highlight by sending you to the meta :-D

copying this link from rpg.se: humblebundle.com/books/image-comics-book-bundle

@AnkitSharma ^^

Ankit Sharma

I am not that big comic book reader

But I read there summary a lot

Mostly for answering purpose etc

DForck42

3:07 PM

@AnkitSharma lol. you said something about comics earlier so thought I tag you

Ankit Sharma

k

I am planing to get my hands on watchmen and v for vendetta from ages but I will do that only when I will have suitable time to read them

I am sure I asked a question about it in SFF

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Q: What are the difference between the different (Graphic Novel) editions of Watchmen?

I am thinking of buying the Watchmen Graphic Novel in India but I'm confused about the different editions. They are Watchmen (448 pages) Watchmen (336 Pages) Watchmen: The Deluxe Edition Watchmen: Absolute Edition Watchmen: International Edition (448 pages) Watchmen (International Edition) 416...

got it

There, corrected

+1

Pity there's no drawing of Ivan hitting Michel with the knout there.

I'd prefer that to a sword.

Matt Thrower

Quick. Use the chatroom before the site gets canned.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

3:23 PM

lol

Napoleon Wilson

Rather use the site to stop it from getting canned.

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DForck42

@MattThrower ehh?

Skooba

@Randal'Thor but were supposed to be the parents

@steelersquirrel I think we will have a smaller family in here

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

me and that's it

steelersquirrel

@Skooba Hehehe! We only have one kid in here atm ;)

Skooba

3:36 PM

a whole new set of users to adopt

DForck42

@steelersquirrel goo goo gaah gaah

steelersquirrel

He does get his intelligence from my side of the family as I pointed out earlier ;)

Skooba

@steelersquirrel :-O

steelersquirrel

@Skooba Although, he is probably confused seeing how you look like I used to :P

Skooba

@steelersquirrel we just to let him know his daddy is now his mommy

I won't be confined by defined

steelersquirrel

3:40 PM

HAHAHAHA!!!!

Skooba

steelersquirrel

Hahaha! OMG!!!!

A J

We have another Steelers fan here.

steelersquirrel

@AJ Yes! Skooba is a Steeler fan! He has stolen my old identity :P

Skooba

we travel in packs

self absorbing packs

A J

3:43 PM

Oh

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oh pls no sports are boring

pls don't spread it here too

Himarm

FOOZBALL?!
\

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

nothing wrong with steelers but books != sports

steelersquirrel

Easterly will explode if football talk spills over here ;)

Skooba

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

3:43 PM

@Himarm no that's only in mos go try there

@Skooba then why the f*** are you in this chat and on this site

steelersquirrel

@Randal'Thor Did you delete your meta post about the chatroom name?

DForck42

@steelersquirrel I was confused for a minute

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

aw I liked the library

DForck42

@Himarm sportsball!

A J

I don't know anything about football so I used to keep away from any kinda football discussion.

steelersquirrel

3:44 PM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Skooba doesn't hate literature, Leonidis does. Duh ;)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ah ok

haven't watched that movie all the way trhough

yet

Skooba

steelersquirrel

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Me too. It wasnt' as boring as "The Reading Room" at least ;)

Skooba

^^^ literature

steelersquirrel

@Skooba Hahahahaha!!!! True dat!!!

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

3:45 PM

@Skooba chuck norris disapproves of your fake chuck

Himarm

steelersquirrel

YESSSSSS!!!! Chuck Norris!!!!!

Skooba

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ooohh thata tough one

^^^ more literature

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

lol

DForck42

and now chat's degraded to memes...

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steelersquirrel

3:47 PM

I believe that Cowher's book won the Pulitzer ;)

@DForck42 Just be thankful that WadCheber hasn't heard of this place yet...we're still safe ;)

Skooba

@DForck42 ~~degraded~~ reached full potential

lol

that didn't take long: literature.stackexchange.com/questions/259/…

steelersquirrel

3:55 PM

There is no need of closing this question as this website (Literature StackExchange) is exactly the right StackExchange for this question — user211 4 hours ago

Huh?

Skooba

seems like it would be better on writers.se

this stack is for already written works and "how to" write one

Napoleon Wilson

Love those statements out of the blue from userXXXX style usernames.

Skooba

@NapoleonWilson esp who already deleted the account

or iguess didnt validate it?

b_jonas

@NapoleonWilson blue usernames with numbers? are there such room owners? oh... (out of the blue)

Skooba