Currently i'm using windows 7 home premium and my laptop processor is i5 with 8GB RAM and 640GB hard Disk. I wanna install the original Mac OS snow leopard 10.6.8 without using virtual machine. But I wanna keep my windows 7 as primary. Is this possible?
wtf... I'm currently digging around a software project from a previous employer of mine. There's a slight problem with the deployment at some client. So I replaced a binary on their site with one from my repository, didn't work. So I compiled a new one and replaced it again, didn't work again. So I started to compare version numbers and they're all identical, because the script that adjusts them is never run in the build process...
Hackintosh or OSx86 is Mac OS X running on non-Apple hardware. But since the software is still by Apple (most of it), is one allowed to ask questions pertaining to a Hackintosh here?
Unless it is a clear call for warez, discussion of DRM should be given the benefit of the doubt.
Per Joel:
I would hate for us to censor legitimate, technical discussion just because what we're talking about happens to be illegal in some jurisdictions. We should have the same standards as un...
> I would hate for us to censor legitimate, technical discussion just because what we're talking about happens to be illegal in some jurisdictions. We should have the same standards as universities: we should defend people's rights to free speech.
ffmpeg "x264" encoding is pretty clearly illegal in any country that respects US software patents (including, quite clearly, Germany, until/unless they change their laws about agreeing to abide by / respect US patents). Likewise, hackintosh is pretty clearly illegal in the US, but elsewhere we don't know. Sounds like Atwood says, if it could be legal anywhere then it should be allowed.
as Diago answered quite some time ago, the moderation team has decided to discourage these questions. Furthermore, Stack Exchange is a US company, and is therefore beholden to US law. — nhinkleApr 16 '11 at 21:53
I just don't like it when the community and StackExchange is inconsistent and allows one behavior falling unambiguously into category X while also censoring another behavior falling unambiguously into category X
ffmpeg encoder discussion is unambiguously just as illegal in the US as hackintosh, so we either ban both, or neither
IIRC, the team has instructed the moderating staff to keep their hands off of several legal-related issues. If these types of questions would pose a legal problem for SEINC, then I'm sure they'll take care of it
If the community doesn't like these questions, they can deal with them appropriately. But, as I said, I'm not here to uphold US law
All innovation explores the limits of performance and behaviour.
Hacking is just making hardware do something you know it is capable of doing. When the designers don't meet expectations--whether non-tech-related considerations motivate restrictions on permissible usage, or the designers simp...
@JourneymanGeek "I want, please give!" questions are simply often garbage, we all know it. Installing an OS on something it's not "supposed" to run on is a great question IMO :D
@OliverSalzburg I would hate for us to censor legitimate, technical discussion just because what we're talking about happens to be illegal in some jurisdictions. <== applies here, methinks
it really comes down to how much risk StackExchange (the company) is willing to take on, from a legal / business liability standpoint, since the content being hosted on their servers is their responsibility
@allquixotic But we don't have a site with 100% above-board questions.
Heck, as @bmike pointed out, Ask Different accepts some hackintosh questions. So even disregarding other legal grey areas, we already have those questions on the SE network.
This is a good point and is much more relevant than discussing the legality of something that no one has ever been brought to court for. The influx of dumb questions would be obnoxious. However, I want to make sure that a well stated question that is relevant to the community should not be summarily dismissed simply because it happens that the poster is running OS X on hardware that Apple didn't intend it to run on. — Robert S CiaccioAug 20 '10 at 5:34
@allquixotic That was 3 years ago, but AFAIK there is still no legal precedent here.
Ask Different has a problem with our help page not matching the most voted answers on our hackintosh thread on meta.
The thread is overwhelmingly laissez-faire but the help page that came over from the old FAQ is clearly outlawing mackintosh questions.
Here are my thoughts on legality as posted about 2 years ago on our meta:
The legality of an action gets sorted out when a judge weighs all of the conflicting laws. The law starts to "solidify" when judges publish precedent and intentionally state that some rulings are to be considered broad rather than an isolated finding in some narrow case Moe vs. Larry
Many questions here will fall in gray areas where there is no precedent but simply a bunch conflicting laws and hundreds of years of case history that may or may not apply to a shrink wrapped, non-negotiated, un-signed EULA between parties of radically unequal bargaining power. Add in the worldwide nature of t…
@bmike I agree on the first paragraph, but disagree on the second -- SE's servers are in the US, and the company is based in the US, so we must consider US law first and foremost because they are the ones assuming liability, and we don't want a SWAT team to raid SE's datacenter and pull their servers....
I want t take a moment to recognize @allquixotic and @Bob - because of your help yesterday, I got some major problems cleared, and my boss recognized me in an all-employee email... The credit goes to you guys - you were awesome and super helpful, just like most everyone else in this chat...
the true grey area would be those questions where the legality of the issue has never been tested before in the US; if it has been tested in the US and found to be illegal, it's no longer a grey area, even if the entire rest of the world considers it legal, because it's illegal for StackExchange Inc to host that content
@studiohack congrats to you for getting recognition :P
> Some courts that have addressed the validity of the shrinkwrap license agreements have found some EULAs to be invalid, characterizing them as contracts of adhesion, unconscionable, and/or unacceptable pursuant to the U.C.C.
I'm not sure what the UCC is, but the first two are widely applicable to EULAs in general.
Yes, it's case by case, but no one has decided on this case.
@allquixotic Fair enough. I too don't want the SE hardware to be confiscated, however I do believe they have the funds to ensure the backups are reliable enough and the flex to purchase new hardware should that actually happen.
Currently i'm using windows 7 home premium and my laptop processor is i5 with 8GB RAM and 640GB hard Disk. I wanna install the original Mac OS snow leopard 10.6.8 without using virtual machine. But I wanna keep my windows 7 as primary. Is this possible?
I've seen questions about pirating software down voted and closed. I'm wondering if Hackintosh questions are also disallowed? If so, why?
Hackintosh or OSx86 is Mac OS X running on non-Apple hardware. But since the software is still by Apple (most of it), is one allowed to ask questions pertaining to a Hackintosh here?
Unless it is a clear call for warez, discussion of DRM should be given the benefit of the doubt.
Per Joel:
I would hate for us to censor legitimate, technical discussion just because what we're talking about happens to be illegal in some jurisdictions. We should have the same standards as un...
All innovation explores the limits of performance and behaviour.
Hacking is just making hardware do something you know it is capable of doing. When the designers don't meet expectations--whether non-tech-related considerations motivate restrictions on permissible usage, or the designers simp...
