Conversation started Jun 13, 2013 at 13:22.
Jun 13, 2013 13:22
@OliverSalzburg I wondered if super user would welcome the migration of a question like this...
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Q: Can i install original Mac OS in my windows?

TsheringCurrently i'm using windows 7 home premium and my laptop processor is i5 with 8GB RAM and 640GB hard Disk. I wanna install the original Mac OS snow leopard 10.6.8 without using virtual machine. But I wanna keep my windows 7 as primary. Is this possible?

I'm about to close it as off-topic for Ask Different, but it seems to be squarely about with hardware can run Snow Leopard without virtualization...
@bmike When he says "in my Windows", he means dual-boot?
No - the OP means bare OS (with drivers and mods) on top of PC hardware. Some call this "hackintosh"
So - I suppose dual boot - boot to Windows for a while then shut down, then boot to OS X.
But he wants to "keep Windows 7 as primary"
Yeah, okay. Seems fine for SU
Perfect. Thanks for the advice.
You're welcome :)
Bob
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Jun 13, 2013 13:29
@OliverSalzburg Wasn't there a meta question saying no?
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Q: Are "Hackintosh" questions allowed?

MosheI've seen questions about pirating software down voted and closed. I'm wondering if Hackintosh questions are also disallowed? If so, why?

wtf... I'm currently digging around a software project from a previous employer of mine. There's a slight problem with the deployment at some client. So I replaced a binary on their site with one from my repository, didn't work. So I compiled a new one and replaced it again, didn't work again. So I started to compare version numbers and they're all identical, because the script that adjusts them is never run in the build process...
Bob
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Though it was a rather interesting decision, since it contradicts the 'benefit of the doubt' advice for the other legal grey area (DRM)
@bmike . (see above)
@Bob I don't see the problem with those questions. Feel free to VTD though :P
@Bob Interesting. I believe we have a very similar looking thread.
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Q: Can one ask Hackintosh questions on Ask Different?

AshishHackintosh or OSx86 is Mac OS X running on non-Apple hardware. But since the software is still by Apple (most of it), is one allowed to ask questions pertaining to a Hackintosh here?

wow, didn't know hackintosh questions were outlawed on SU
Jun 13, 2013 13:33
I'm a big advocate of giving people the benefit of the doubt and allowing the topic on both sites FWIW.
if hackintosh is outlawed, then most uses of ffmpeg should be outlawed as well
Bob
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@OliverSalzburg Again, I think the SU meta question is too harsh.
Remember this.
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A: Is discussion of techniques for removing DRM permitted?

Jeff AtwoodUnless it is a clear call for warez, discussion of DRM should be given the benefit of the doubt. Per Joel: I would hate for us to censor legitimate, technical discussion just because what we're talking about happens to be illegal in some jurisdictions. We should have the same standards as un...

since ffmpeg contains encoders and decoders which are not officially patent licensed from the MPEG-LA
Bob
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The SU one... well, just how illegal is a hackintosh? (I never really looked into this.)
> I would hate for us to censor legitimate, technical discussion just because what we're talking about happens to be illegal in some jurisdictions. We should have the same standards as universities: we should defend people's rights to free speech.
Jun 13, 2013 13:34
I'm a community moderator, I'm not here to uphold US law
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@OliverSalzburg Diogo made that statement as a mod. @Sathya is quoted as confirming it.
ffmpeg "x264" encoding is pretty clearly illegal in any country that respects US software patents (including, quite clearly, Germany, until/unless they change their laws about agreeing to abide by / respect US patents). Likewise, hackintosh is pretty clearly illegal in the US, but elsewhere we don't know. Sounds like Atwood says, if it could be legal anywhere then it should be allowed.
@Bob That doesn't change my previous statement
Bob
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as Diago answered quite some time ago, the moderation team has decided to discourage these questions. Furthermore, Stack Exchange is a US company, and is therefore beholden to US law. — nhinkle Apr 16 '11 at 21:53
we can go really far with this censorship until a lot of things are censored. or we can bring some sanity
Bob
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Jun 13, 2013 13:36
@nhinkle, this goes directly against what Jeff and Joel said.
And there's no clear community consensus, just mods banning it.
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I just don't like it when the community and StackExchange is inconsistent and allows one behavior falling unambiguously into category X while also censoring another behavior falling unambiguously into category X
ffmpeg encoder discussion is unambiguously just as illegal in the US as hackintosh, so we either ban both, or neither
to allow one and ban the other is ridiculous
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@allquixotic Happens far too often.
IIRC, the team has instructed the moderating staff to keep their hands off of several legal-related issues. If these types of questions would pose a legal problem for SEINC, then I'm sure they'll take care of it
 
Conversation ended Jun 13, 2013 at 13:37.