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12:02 AM
@Nasser you don't need to change the class just tell geometry to reset the text block as well as the page size, eg tell it to make the margins 1cm and it will expand \textwidth to 2cm less than the page width
 
@DavidCarlisle wow ! thanks. I been struggling with this for an hr. I tried this answer http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/31973/latex-how-do-i-force-pdf-page-height-width but it was not working. I typed
\usepackage[pass,paperwidth=11in,paperheight=17in]{geometry}

Will try your method now !
 
@Nasser Ive never actually used geometry but basically it can't fail can it?
 
@mozartstraße ooh ninja Jesus! :)
@tohecz :)
 
@DavidCarlisle wow, it worked! you are amazing. I used this

\usepackage[paperwidth=11in,paperheight=17in,margin=1cm]{geometry}

before I did not change the margin, I assumed it will adjust on its own. Now I can fit more text on one page. So I can make it 3 COLUMNS page. I'll just have to go buy an 11 by 17 inch printer and make a nice big book from this. Latex is really amazing.
 
@PauloCereda we lost at cricket
 
12:20 AM
@DavidCarlisle, please see this. It is 11 by 17 paper size. I used 3 columns. It looks MUCH nicer to me now. It uses 10 pts (default).
\begin{document}
\begin{multicols}{3}
...
But I need to work more on it. Some of the equations are now flowing out on the right edge of the page now... But it is looking much better. I can put what uses to be on 3 pages on one physical page now.
The above is part of one page. But you can see on the right there, I need more space, the equations do not fit. May be I need to go to bigger paper size :)
I just tried with 14 in by 17 in standard paper size. And now it seems to just about fit 3 papers in there. Here is a screen shot. I can't reduce the space between columns any more.
I think I need to make linewidth smaller. But will play with. Now I understand how it work. Thanks for the help.
 
@Nasser but you could presumably break that big term between the two summations
 
@DavidCarlisle yes, but I do not really go through that, I have hundreds of HW's and reports, I can't handle things case by case like this. But will play with it. I wonder : is it possible to bind an actually book that is 14 in by 17 in? I've seen some at the library. I wonder if this is still possible these days.... will look into it...
The long math equations always gave me hard time, breaking them I mean...
I bought 5 books on Latex, just on math setting only. To learn this magic.
Yes, binding can be of this size: "No, our bindery can basically change almost every aspect of the final binding: the color of cover materials, placement, color, size and type of stamping, as well as size of binding. (A4, 11x17, 11x14, 6x9, 51/2 x 81/2 or any size in between)."
Old books always used to be much larger than today's for some reason. They used to like large size books. These days books are much smaller in size (I mean width/height)
 
12:55 AM
@DavidCarlisle Oh no!
 
1:23 AM
@PauloCereda hey Paulo, sorry I missed you the other day :)
 
@cmhughes Hi Chris! :) Don't worry. :)
 
@PauloCereda how have you been? :)
 
@cmhughes Fine, thanks. :) And you? :)
 
@PauloCereda pretty good thanks :)
 
@cmhughes Got me a new Xbox. :)
And this time it will be online business. :D
 
1:25 AM
@PauloCereda 360? or the newest one?
 
@cmhughes 360. :) The new one is not even on sale yet, and if it were, I wouldn't dare buy it. :)
 
@PauloCereda that's what I thought :) which game made you want the 360? :)
 
@cmhughes To be honest, quite a bunch. :) I like the fact that 360 has a vast game library and their prices are not so insanely expensive compared to the Wii/Wii U and PS3 ones. :)
 
@PauloCereda fair enough :)
 
By the way, did you see the new Mario Kart 8?
 
1:28 AM
@PauloCereda dang, no I didn't, will have a look now...
 
@cmhughes I won't spoil it, but here's a keyword for you: Möbius strip :)
I looks gorgeous, specially on HD. And apparently it runs on insanely 60 fps.
 
@PauloCereda very tempted to get a WiiU just to play that game!
My sister and I race across the internet- it's always great fun :)
 
@cmhughes Me too. Mario Kart, Super Mario Bros U, Mario 3D Land, Super Luigi U...
@cmhughes ooh how nice! :)
 
@PauloCereda where would there be without Mario? :)
@PauloCereda Dragon Age 3 was announced for next year too- can't wait for that
 
@cmhughes Indeed. :) But I cannot afford Wii U neither its games, they are very expensive here.
@cmhughes :)
 
1:32 AM
@PauloCereda dang, that's rough :(
 
Besides, Wii U is not officially released in Brazil.
@cmhughes How much does an average Wii game cost for you?
 
@PauloCereda I haven't bought one in a quite a while- the good ones are around $50 (US)
how about you?
 
@cmhughes Around US$ 120. :(
 
@PauloCereda yikes!
@PauloCereda but Xbox games are cheaper?
 
@cmhughes They are around US$ 60-70, so it's more affordable. :)
Wii U is being sold here near US$ 660.
The basic version.
 
1:35 AM
@PauloCereda yikes again! have you bought Assassin's creed 3 yet? I saw that they're making number 4 for the next gen
 
@cmhughes Not yet, I got stuck with some football games for now, but Assassin's Creed 3 and Assassin's Creed 4 are in my next list. :)
 
@PauloCereda nice- I'm quite tempted to look into that series. The trouble is that once I get into a game I forget to keep a balance, and just obsessively play it....
 
@cmhughes We all do. :)
 
@PauloCereda that's quite a relief to hear that others do it too.... I have played Dragon Age Origins about 8 times, each one is about 50 hours....
 
@cmhughes I can relate to that. :) It's like a marathon. :)
 
1:40 AM
@PauloCereda yep :) which games have you played obsessively? :)
 
@cmhughes Probably all of the Mario franchise. :) More recently, Portal 1 and 2, Uncharted 1, 2 and 3... :) The list goes on. :)
 
@PauloCereda yeah, the Mario games are very fun, especially multi-player :)
 
@cmhughes I have a 3DS. Every trip has some game playtime. :)
 
@PauloCereda nice ;)
 
@cmhughes I'll try to play more online with the Xbox.
 
1:46 AM
@PauloCereda make sure they don't monitor your emotions :)
 
@cmhughes "Achievement unlocked: Naughty NSA!"
 
@PauloCereda lol :)
@PauloCereda unrelated to games... :)... I saw that Marco uploaded indent.yaml as part of the arara release- that's great!
 
 
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3:43 AM
Anybody interested in modifying David's Christmas card code into producing a never-ending pdf? Just want to imagine the look on the NSA's agent when he runs my carefully hidden TeX file and it eats all their storage :D
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4:10 AM
can someone please see what I am missing here: isn't eqnarray supposed to break equation between  \left( and \right)  ?

\documentclass{article}%
\usepackage{amsmath}
\begin{document}

\begin{eqnarray*}
  a &=& b \\
    &=& \left(x  \\
    &&  y \right)
\end{eqnarray*}
\end{document}
Just like this
 
@Nasser It's error number 10 in tex.stackexchange.com/a/33472/2552
 
@Jake I understand the issue. But I was reading this pdf file, which gives a way to break \left( ... \right) equation. If you look at the screen shot, you'll see. I was trying to find a way to do it, and that is what this pdf was saying as one way (not the best) but it is supposed to work
I do not see what is the difference. How come it worked in the PDF file shown,and not working with me? Did Latex change may be?
That PDF was published in 1997
 
@Nasser \left and \right need to be matched on the same line, if necessary using the dummy \right. (with the trailing period). That's what's done in the screenshot as well. So in your case, you could say:
\begin{eqnarray*}
  a &=& b \\
    &=& \left(x  \right.\\
    &&  \left. y \right)
\end{eqnarray*}
 
@Jake thanks for the link. From it I learn to replace \left( by \Big( and similar to the other end, and now it worked !

\documentclass{article}%
\usepackage{amsmath}
\begin{document}

\begin{eqnarray*}
  a &=& b \\
    &=& \Bigl(x  \\
    &&  y \Bigr)
\end{eqnarray*}
\end{document}
 
@Nasser But \Big( is much too big in this case. You can simply use ( if your content isn't larger than a normal line.
(without \left or \Big, I mean)
 
4:24 AM
oh, I did not see those dummy \right and \right in the screen shot. (too complex the equation was). I know, but this is just for now. I am trying to finish a HW and it works. I can't use standard ( and ), too small. So \Big( works for now (I am still learning how typeset math in Latex. Thanks
 
can someone answer the question I just posted @ tex.stackexchange.com/questions/119100/…
 
 
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6:07 AM
I have just installed texlive 2013, and everything seems to work quite fine
Yet if I say `tlmgr update --all` I get a message saying that `TeX Live 2012 is frozen forever` and so on...
If I say tlmgr conf the third line does say: «TeX Live (tug.org/texlive) version 2012»
of course, the tlmgr in my path is 2013's
 
 
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8:09 AM
@MarianoSuárez-Alvarez where did you get TL 2013 from? specific link? I am waiting for the DVD I ordered. but I can install it from on-line if I know from where.
 
@Nasser It's still in test (but hopefully frozen now) it's not yet intended for production use
 
@DavidCarlisle, thanks.
 
8:27 AM
Are %s following commas necessary in this solution? I have proven by an example that they are really unnecessary. My question is how to theoretically prove that they are unnecessary? Could you do it?
4
A: What am I doing wrong with PSTricks 3D?

Svend TveskægYou just need the following: % xelatex filname.tex \documentclass[% pstricks,% border=12pt% ]{standalone} \usepackage{pst-3dplot} \begin{document} \begin{pspicture}(-3,-1.5)(3,4) \pstThreeDCoor[% xMin=-4,% xMax=4,% yMin=-4,% yMax=4,% zMax=3,% arrows=<->% ] \psplotThreeD[% p...

 
I do not think this table looks good. The break in the first columns does not look good. And last column should be left aligned? It seems to have indent on it. This is from en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX , the PDF at the top.
 
8:59 AM
Wow, I expected this question to be a more likely candidate for a duplicate than an unanswerable question:
4
Q: How can I set short footnotes next to each other (two-column style)?

ChristianWhen having a comparatively large number of footnotes that are each very short (URLs say), it sometimes looks weird to have them stack up to a high footnote tower, especially in a minipage or some similarly confined space. \documentclass[a5paper]{article} \usepackage[hidelinks=true]{hyperref} ...

 
@Christian Why is it unanswerable?
 
Because nobody answered it ;)
and I said "candidate" to be fair to myself
@cgnieder If I actually believed it to be unanswerable, I wouldn't come here to beg for attention and opinions :)
 
@Christian some footnote expert will know an answer. Does the dblfnote package work by chance?
 
@cgnieder I didn't know about that package and it seems to only work globally which I want to avoid but more to the point: no, doesn't seem to do anything with my MWE.
But thanks, it was worth a try :)
Also doesn't improve (or change) the look of bigfoot's para option.
I had hoped it would because I thought it might not actually doesn't do anything because I'm using multiple footnotes, not one large paragraph and para changes that. But sadly, no :/
 
@mozartstraße the keyval package parser removes white space and empty entries (it isn't automatic it explicitly tests for this) I think these days pstricks uses the same or at least a similar parser.
 
9:13 AM
@DavidCarlisle OK. Thank you for responding. I will let the questioner knows it.
 
@mozartstraße It's better to add % that are not needed than the far more common error of not adding them when they are needed, so a policy of adding then always isn't necessarily one that you should discourage.
 
@Nasser 1) I especially don't like the example in that Wiki page. 2) TeX is made for typesetting documents, and trying to do everything in TeX is IMHO stupid. 3) Grid typesetting is possible to manage in *TeX if you have only plain text, figures and titles (like in a fiction book), and is stupid to try to manage if you have anything more complicated (maths, chemistry etc.)
 
@mozartstraße Funny user name. "Mozartstraße" was the name of my tram station for a long time although I did not live in the street itself.
 
@Christian Then you know the smart-stay hostel?
 
@mozartstraße Uhm no. I'm not even sure we're talking about the same city. There's probably a Mozartstraße in every other town in Germany.
 
9:25 AM
@Christian Mozatstrasse is located near a gate of Goetheplatz station.
Then you will know to which city I refered.
 
Moderators: Is there a way to flag a whole user?
 
@mozartstraße the small village (population: 3000+) where I grew up had a Mozartstraße.... and a Goethestraße, too, IIRC. No places, though...
 
@cgnieder I see. The mozartstrasse i am referring to is located in Munich.
Why aren't there train ticket gates to authenticate and authorize people before entering the platform in Munich train stations?
 
9:40 AM
sorry, had to skype
yeah well no, I never lived in Munich
and given the fact that it's located in CSU country, I'm kinda glad about that I have to say
 
@Christian But Munich is the red island in bavaria :) I haven't been there for at least 15 years, though
 
@cgnieder I know but it's still in THEIR sphere of control
I mean the whole country's in their grasp at the moment
suffering from all the incompetent ministers the FDP couldn't provide
 
The red island because of the Dachau Concentration Camp?
 
@mozartstraße No, because the SPD colour ...
 
although to be fair, the FDP at least provided Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger so it's not all catastrophic on their side
can't say the same about the CSU ministers though
if they continue like that, they're going to send Beate Merk to Berlin after the next elections
just to prove everybody wrong who might have thought it couldn't get any worse
I'm in full rant mode again, I should stop that
But I haven't seen such a concentration of incompetence in a German cabinet in my whole life.
And that's saying something since I have suffered through 16 years of Birne Kohl
 
 
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12:40 PM
@topskip a while ago, when I was on the site, I saw a site with something along the line of "most pretty tex documents" or similar. It had a bounty set and had some very detailed and nice examples of book covers and similar... Does anybody remember that thread and now how to find it? (Search terms like "best" "example" or "tex" don't really limit the search results enough :/)
eh, that was not meant to be @ topskip.. not sure what happened there
 
@myrtille not the one with @PauloCereda's duck?
97
A: Cute document in LaTeX

Paulo CeredaI made a humble attempt of a cute document with memoir and some Inkscape graphics. :) Please bear with me, after all, cuteness is in the eye of the beholder. :) Spoiler alert: ! Don't laugh at my duck, please. Jake and I were talking in the TeX and friends chatroom a few months ago about f...

 
@DavidCarlisle Hehe, that's awesome too. But it was more technical topics showing the spread in latex capabilities.
 
259
Q: Showcase of beautiful typography done in TeX & friends

wishihadabetternameIf you were asked to show examples of beautifully typeset documents in TeX & friends, what would you suggest? Preferably documents available online (I'm aware I could go to a bookstore and find many such documents called 'books'). Extra bonus for documents whose LaTeX source is available. This i...

 
@myrtille No ducks then :(
 
@TorbjørnT. Thanks! That was it :)
@DavidCarlisle The ducks are listed there as well ;)
 
12:45 PM
@myrtille @##@@ thing gets everywhere.
 
hahaha
 
hi everyone! does anyone have an idea to solved a bracket command? It's in edit 5: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/110391/big-brackets-around-text
 
@Grey Since you have already accepted an answer and the problem seems not the same as the original question, it seems better to ask a new question, with a link to the previous one.
 
right thanks
 
1:09 PM
Nice! A Guru badge for making up an etymology. ;-)
 
@egreg only silver, not gold like mine:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Let's wait some days. ;-)
 
@egreg which are you going for?, I suppose is next on my list
 
1:24 PM
@DavidCarlisle I need 9 answers/46 votes for and 7 answers/67 votes for
 
do we have a canonical question for "xetex files must be utf-8"
0
Q: Writing Æ,ø,å using XeTeX

user22496I would like to use the danish letters "æ,ø,å" with xelatex. Everything works just fine if i use pdflatex, but if i use xelatex "æ,ø,å" are not printed. I have tried several different fonts. I have tried loading external fonts also. I am using TeX live on Windows 8. Here is a minimal example: ...

 
1:43 PM
@DavidCarlisle Maybe this one?
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Q: Using XeLaTeX instead of pdfLaTeX

RichardI would like to give XeLaTeX a try. I've been using pdflatex to process the following: \listfiles \documentclass{article} \usepackage[backend=biber]{biblatex} \usepackage{filecontents} \AtEveryBibitem{\clearfield{eprintclass}} \AtEveryBibitem{\clearfield{doiclass}} \begin{filecontents}{\jo...

 
@egreg Thanks Alan's answer there seems to cover the main things I'll add a dup vote then.
 
2:07 PM
Ack from São Paulo! :)
 
@PauloCereda How's the big city?
 
@egreg Quite chaotic, as usual. :) A lot of traffic, and apparently there was a big tumult and clash with the police last night! Thank God I traveled this morning.
 
 
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3:15 PM
args -.- sometimes pgfplotstable isn't the best thing in the world...
 
3:30 PM
Hello everybody!
 
3:44 PM
@Rico Doing plots all the time is not pleasant, I believe. ;-)
@tohecz Hello! I'm seriously planning a week end in Prague.
 
4:14 PM
I am looking at my Scientific word Latex output, and try to edit it. They use \prime everywhere which is hard to read. Like this $q_{0}^{\prime}$. I changed one place to $q_{0}'$ and run pdflatex and they look the same. I was wondering if I can change all the \prime to just ' so it is easier to read or you think it will break things in some other places? This is all in math mode.
 
@egreg When? I hope I'll be at home! (August 5 to September 2 works the best)
 
@tohecz In July, I believe. In August I'm staying too far.
 
Did everyone see the new close reasons? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/184154/…
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Can anyone tell me why the text of the float page is 1-2pt nearer to the top than the text of the regular page in this MWE:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{showframe}
\makeatletter
\setlength{\@fptop}{0pt}
\makeatother
\begin{document}
\noindent Text
\begin{figure}[p]
  Text
\end{figure}
\end{document}
 
4:30 PM
@cgnieder There is \topskip glue in the first page, but not in the second.
 
@Nasser in math mode ' is a macro that expands to ^{\prime} with some lookahead code so '' turns in to ^{\prime\prime}
 
I would like to propose a new PSmith feature request: !!/votebattle, which looks at daily votes.
@DavidCarlisle: Nudge, nudge...
 
@DavidCarlisle WOW !! Are you saying I can just use ' instead of \prime in math mode? This will really really be great. Scientific word generated code is so hard to read, and if I can go global FIND/REPLACE to change \prime with just ' this will make the code much easier to read.
it uses \prime alot, since most of my HW's are on derivatives and stuff, so things like y''(t)+c y'(t) are all over the place.
Like this: $F=mx^{\prime\prime}$
 
@egreg looking at latex.ltx I see the \topskip is set to 10pt which is much more... \setlength{\@fptop}{\topskip} clearly gives the wrong result. Is this somehow combined with the baselineskip or is there something else happening?
 
Much easier to read with $F=mx''$
 
4:39 PM
@cgnieder \topskip is the distance from the upper border to the first baseline; the usual rules about \baselineskip apply. So if \topskip is 10pt and the first line is 8pt hight, 2pt of glue are inserted.
 
@egreg Ah, alright, thanks!
 
@DavidCarlisle I found one problem. Please see $J^{v\prime h}$ and compared it to $J^{v' h}$ the output is not the same? isn't supposed to be the same? or may be I need to load some package?
 
@Nasser Remember that ' becomes ^{\prime}, so in that case you're actually priming the v.
@Nasser But I find `$J^{v\prime h}$ really bad.
 
@egreg I see! So if I do global FIND/REPLACE I might break things. I really do not want to do this case by case. This is all automatically generated latex by SW, I am trying to learn Latex by hand, but hard to follow what SW generates since it uses \prime everywhere making code hard to read. thanks.
 
@Nasser I can't say my opinion on the TeX code produced by SWP; actually it's based on output I saw several years ago. The reason why I can't express it here can be imagined. ;-)
 
4:54 PM
@egreg what is most annoying is that it generates this \allowbreak between all the numbers and its decimal points. I complained about it, but nothing can be done about it. Like this example

& =1.\allowbreak2895\times10^{-2}\\
 
@Nasser Ridiculous: it's a place where no break is admissible.
 
The code is full of these things :(
This is what I have to look at if I am to edit all the Latex output by hand from now on. It is scary to me.
 
@Nasser It's much like I remembered it. $,$ is absurd, just like adding \left and \right to each delimiter.
 
And this is only one small equation output of pages and pages of stuff like this. I should have started long time ago doing things by hand in Latex. But now I am dependent on SW, unless I get much better.
@egreg They add \left( and right) to everything, since it is much SIMPLER to the implementation. i.e. the SW software then do not have to decide to do it or not. So they always do it. But it makes the code harder to read as I said.
the first thing I do when I edit SW output is remove about 90% of those un-needed \left( and \right)
 
@Nasser Not only harder to read. The spacing is spoiled.
 
5:19 PM
In the name of DEK, that code is is beyond cursing
 
@MarianoSuárez-Alvarez I've seen even worse code produced by SWP.
 
to be fair to SWP, the code generated is not really meant for end user to edit or modify. This is like one using C compiler to generate assembler code. One is not supposed to edit the assembler code directly, but modify the C or the high level language used and then re-run the compiler. Just like some compilers can generate better looking assembler code than others. But there is really nothing like SWP out there, other than Lyx today, in terms of having easy to use GUI to generate Latex code.
... I am just trying to edit it, because I want to start doing Latex by hand from now on, and learn Latex myself.
 
But that code is bad latex code
why does it keep writing \operatorname{Re}?
 
5:38 PM
@MarianoSuárez-Alvarez I guess that is the latex code for Re{} ? I do not know. Here is a screen shot of what I actually type on the screen for the above. It is a HW assignment for my class:
 
@Nasser It's why you should use emacs not a wysiwyg editor to enter the markup, then you are in control
 
anyway, as I said, I almost never look at the Latex code generated, as it scares me to look at it. I spend all my time on the screen typing there. Only now I started looking at the code to try to learn it and may be modify it to improve things, since I use htlatex to compile it, sometimes I have to edit things to make htlatex happy.
 
Your best course to learn latex is to read the first few chapters of any sensible introduction, get a decent text editor, and start typing
the detour through SW is not the most helpful
 
6:09 PM
@Werner: Does it belong to you? ca.movember.com/mospace/3183929
 
@mozartstraße Yup, that's me during last year's venture down Facial Hair Avenue.
 
@Werner I see.
Who know the photograph of Manuel Luque?
 
@mozartstraße I found Nick Offerman's videos during last year's campaign hilarious and dry.
 
@Werner OK. Thanks. I got the link from your facebook, facebook.com/wgrundlingh.
 
@egreg +1 thanks for picking that fancyhdr request up, I was just driving home:-)
 
6:32 PM
@egreg did not know that regressions where stored in one global variable so all my plots had the same regression...
 
6:52 PM
Hi, does anybody know how to use arara with clean directive to delete files?
in arara.log there is: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
any idea how to solve it?
 
7:13 PM
@DavidCarlisle That code made me shiver.
 
7:49 PM
@PauloCereda, Hi, when I use arara to clean files this error in arara.log:14 Jun 2013 20:49:32.613 TRACE CommandTrigger - C:\Users\doctorate\Dropbox\phd\phdmain.idx
The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
@PauloCereda, I think since the file being used by dropbox, may be, they cannot be deleted, how to fix that?
 
is there a resource that can teach how to create custom Tex commands like in Werners code here tex.stackexchange.com/questions/110391/big-brackets-around-text? I ask because I'd really like to learn to solve my own problems; particularly in the current one here!: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/119163/…
 
8:39 PM
@egreg, Hi, when I use the imakeidx, I couldn't find in the documentation how to use the |textbf, |seealso, |see, parent!subentryof the makeidx package, where can I find these things?
 
@doctorate They are used as in the documented \index command. Try texdoc ind
 
@egreg, not that clear to me, just how can one do simply bold, in imakeidx wiht \index command?
 
no, with |
 
@egreg, is there any better documentation or may be a post for that? simply with examples!
@DavidCarlisle, so \index{word\textbf} like this?
 
@doctorate \index{word|textbf}
 
8:49 PM
@doctorate The article I mentioned is the basis of how \index is documented on the LaTeX companion. If you want to bolden an entry, do \index{entry@\textbf{entry}}
 
@DavidCarlisle, this didn't work for me wiht imakeidx.
@egreg, but this is two times one should type entry, it should be smarter than that, isn't it?
 
@doctorate In what sense it didn't work? \index{entry|textbf} will embolden the page number.
@doctorate LaTeX can't know what you want unless you tell it.
 
@doctorate or as egreg had it which is more flexible
 
@egreg, when i did this \index{word|textbf}, the entry dropped out of the list
i load only imakeidx package, do i miss something else?
 
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{imakeidx}
\makeindex
\begin{document}
a\index{word|textbf}
\printindex
\end{document}
 
8:54 PM
when I do \index{word|seealso{otherentry}}, also the entry will not show up in the index, any idea why?
 
This prints "word, 1" in the index, as it's supposed to do.
@doctorate No. If I add it to the example above, it works.
 
Hmm, the mwe works, but in the tex file didn't, any knnown issues here?
 
@doctorate None that I know of.
 
@egreg, \makeindex[program=texindy] , could this be the cause?
when I removed it, it works!
 
@doctorate No.
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{imakeidx}
\makeindex[program=texindy]
\begin{document}
a\index{word|textbf}
\index{word|seealso{otherentry}}
\index{otherentry}
\printindex
\end{document}
 
9:00 PM
imean without passsing texindy as option
but that what i did and it works!
strange!
 
9:19 PM
Latex produces so much empty vertical spaces between things. May be I should not use [...] ? Here is an example
why so much white space between the first equation and the second? Here is the latex code
The first time the $x''(t)$ vector will have the maximum value is
when
\[
   \theta + \pi + \omega t = 2 \pi
\]
Hence
\begin{align*}
  t  &  = \frac{2 \pi - \pi - \theta}{\omega}        \\
     &  = \frac{\pi - \frac{\pi}{6} }{\frac{\pi}{6}}
\end{align*}
%
 
that spacing is quite catastrophic :-)
 
@MarianoSuárez-Alvarez do you know why please? I am using standard letterpaper size, article, and 2 columns. May be it is the [ and ] ? I will try replacing these with \equation to see the different.
 
can you post the complete text file somewhere?
 
sure. But you wont be able to compile, since it has an include and loads images. But will post all in one folder. I am just trying \begin{equation} now.... please give me a sec.
OMG !! I found why
I think I found a bug in Latex
 
9:29 PM
Can any one guess what I changed?
may be I should post this as a question on the main board. But here is the answer to the above quizz
The left one is the SAME exact latex code as the right side, but I used landscape. That is the only difference. in landscape, much more extra white space is added between equations as one can see.
 
@Nasser You probably have a big non splittable object on the next page
 
and are using \flushbottoms?
 
@egreg I do not know what that means. not using \flushbottom. This is SWP generated code, and SWP do not use that. I simply added landscape here:

\usepackage[landscape,left=.7in,right=.5in,top=.8in,bottom=1in]{geometry}
When I remove landscape from geometry, I get what is on the right. same Latex code. 2 columns mode. I was trying to see if it look better in landscape. but too much white space I noticed when I did that.
 
 
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11:21 PM
@doctorate Hello, sorry for the delay, I was travelling back home. Sadly, there's nothing arara can do since it's something related to an external program and its invocation. The clean directive only invokes the rm/del command, so it's their fault, maybe some Dropbox daemon is interfering with the file?
 
@PauloCereda .... standard software support answer: .... It's not my fault....
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL or "it works on my machine" :)
 
it is amazing how much worst the format of my latex output got when I wrote \setlength{\parskip}{5pt} . What used to be nice looking, now it is not. Things break in not too nice places and so on. So I deleted the above. Latex can be very sensitive sometimes.
 
@Nasser making parskip be a fixed length probably removed all the vertical flexibility on the page
 
@DavidCarlisle but it is also fixed if I do not set it to 5pt? is it not 1pt by default? Or are you saying it is dynamic values that somehow changes in different places, I do not understand. But letting Latex use the default produced better setting.
 
11:33 PM
@Nasser what does \showthe\parskip say
 
Only thing I change is this: \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} as I do not like indentation on start of new par
 
@Nasser well you can't have no indentation and no parskip, that's not readable, you need one or the other. (parskip package is probably as good as anything if you go for spaced unindented paragraphs, although most typographical style manuals would advise using indentation)
 
@DavidCarlisle it says this :

(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/amsfonts/umsb.fd)
> 0.0pt plus 1.0pt.
l.18 \showthe\parskip

so using Mathematica I calculate the above as
so it is a 1 like I said ?
 
@Nasser wrong sum
 
0+1 = 1 ?
I am confused now
 
11:36 PM
@Nasser no if it had been 1 it woul dhave said 1 the plus component is the amount it can stretch
@Nasser there is also a minus component (0pt here) which is the amount it can shrink
 
ok, may be then special sum there. I see. I thought it i was just one when I saw this. So you suggest I should remove \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} as well. OK will do that. YOu are the expert. If you think it will look better.
 
@Nasser Assuming you have flushbottom in force so TeX is trying to make all pages the same length but your lines of text and equations and stuff dont exactly fit, then with teh default setting tex will stretch each parskip a bit and things pad out, but if you make it exactly 0 (or 5) or whatever then there is no way to make a line get to the bottom of a page so Tex will stretch one space by the full missing amount as its cost function says one infinitely bad space is better than all the spaces
being infinitely bad
@Nasser It's not so much looking better or worse, if you have no parindent and no parskip then the reader has no indication that a paragraph break has happened at all, there may perhaps be a short line but that is not guaranteed
 
@DavidCarlisle I see. So I was making things worst for Latex. I just removed all of these. Nice thing with Latex is that now I can just change one place (I have input file where I store the preamble) and all the other latex files include that one file. Now I can run my makefile on the whole tree and it will make new pdfs and new web pages
I think who ever designed the paper sizes do not like math, here is why: 8.5 in by 11 in, does not make it easy to fit equations on the page when using 2 columns. But 2 columns I found looks the best. But now, with 2 columns, a display equation has to fit in about 3.5 inch width, instead of about 6 or 7 inch when using one column.
So many long equations which fitted ok in one column (default) now have to be manually broken to make then fit in the smaller space. I can scale images to make them fit, but can't scale equations. And I want to use 2 columns from now on, since it looks better.
 
11:55 PM
@Nasser That's why there is an international standard paper size series based on mathematical principles. A0, A1, A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, each half the area of the previous, but same aspect ratio
 
That is why I say whoever decided on letter size, did not like math. They should have made letter size be 10 in by 11 or something. Then it would have helped.
@DavidCarlisle yes, but letter size is the standard here in the US. So I can't really start using other sizes. My teacher might not like it.
 
@Nasser Or you (and I assume your countrymen) could use standard sizes like everyone else. It makes so much sense that even the UK dumped the old sizes (and we are not known for adopting European standards:-)
 
@PauloCereda hey Paulo, did you see the arara question asked earlier today- tex.stackexchange.com/questions/119206/…
 
But A4 is not much different than letter size really. Still too narrow for math in 2 column mode. We math/latex folks need to start a campaign to force changing letter size to be wider.
 

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