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6:00 PM
Some days I wish I worked in a porn industry help desk. At least the girls would be worth looking at while I fix their favorites...
 
@MDMarra Hm, their try page is working for me
 
Try using something other than Chrome
 
@Travis heh. Don't count on that. Cow-orker who used to have that job tells a completely different story.
 
@MDMarra ff19 is nice and snappy, ff21 is dog slow
 
Works in IE as well
...don't have firefox installed.
 
6:02 PM
must be a weird bug then. firefox and safari don't have a whole lot in common
 
Works for me.
 
So if the site is reset every day, why do I see posts from February?
 
maybe they forgot about resetting it
ahaha
 
@MichaelHampton It's reset back to a snapshot, not empty.
 
6:05 PM
That's ... cheating.
 
@MichaelHampton lolwut
 
@MikeyB Is it schemaless
 
@JoelESalas god no, it's a sensible structure built on postgres
 
1 hour countdown...who's gonna win the moderator seats?
 
@TheCleaner @TomO'Connor and @ScottPack
 
6:08 PM
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I guess all the girls IN porn don't have computers anyway.....that's why the employees for the company aren't IN porn...not worth looking at :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Do you have firebug installed and on?
 
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Q: Can I use an SSH alias as part of a hostname?

ConnorGI have a bunch of machines under one domain that I frequently connect to; apollo.my.university.edu hades.my.university.edu zeus.my.university.edu and I use the same configuration settings for each of them. Instead of typing them all out in my .ssh/config, Host apollo Hostname apollo.my.unive...

My first thought was "what are those Novell hostnames? Get a real hostname!"
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Bit of feedback from the interviewing. The interview style seems a bit abrupt. More interrogation than business meeting, but the post-interview feedback is pleasantly blunt.
 
I couldn't imagine working at a porn site helpdesk
"Help, I can't see boobies!"
 
6:12 PM
@MikeyB installed but disabled.
 
@NathanC try owning a porn site :)
 
@JoelESalas That was cool!
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Shift-F12 disabled or just closed?
 
@Adrian I'll pass that feedback on, thanks.
 
I'm finding it nice and snappy unless firebug is enabled.
 
6:13 PM
@MikeyB disabled in the addons prefs thing
 
20 mins ago, by Joel E Salas
I'll do it on CentOS and submit a PR
 
Probably because it's JS-heavy
 
...precisely because it slows down things. Anything JS-heavy becomes pretty unusable
 
Anyone ever migrated away from using an appliance for DNS to AD Integrated DNS?
 
@Cole Just create the ADI zones and export what you have from the appliance and import it into the appropriate zones
 
6:14 PM
Huh… so with Firebug disabled:
With firebug enabled:
 
@MDMarra that sounds retardly easy
 
ya, just make sure you leave a forwarder from your appliances to your new DNS servers until you're sure you've moved everything to point at the new hotness
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I'm guessing you have a different js debug tool installed?
 
@MDMarra I think a.) would be easier to manage b.) save a lot of money in licensing/maintenance of the Infoblox appliances
 
6:16 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker counterexample is Discourse. Unless you're using a browser that's doing something weird :p
 
@Cole not sure what infoblox does
 
@MDMarra dns/dhcp appliance
think it does ntp too
 
Right but I mean I don't know what value it adds over built-in Windows stuff
 
afaik: none.
but I guess infoblox sales will disagree with that :)
 
haha
 
6:17 PM
Just seems...weird
we only have two infoblox appliances
 
We use them, I never understood why.
(only in the windows env. unix side is all bind with a serving of powerdns)
 
Moving away from them and to ADI DNS would allow for much more HA/failover
@DennisKaarsemaker assuming we use it because of the 10% Linux/Unix in our environment.
 
Why use a server when you can have a dedicated appliance*!?



*dedicated appliance is a rebranded server with the faceplate glued shut
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@DennisKaarsemaker Wasn't really bad. I figured we probably have a different interview style over here. Usually the meet & greet comes first instead of in the middle. =)
 
"Checking parity consistency"...well synology, you've been doing that since I plugged you in 4 hours ago -.-
 
6:19 PM
@MichaelHampton Somebody else said the two of us. I dunno. I'm interested to see how the votes go. Then next week we'll be able to actually run the numbers and see how the rounds went.
 
you can run the numbers right away
 
@Adrian mmmyes, that sounds unusual :)
 
last election they posted the results with the files for download immediately
 
Hm, "DNS firewall"
what is this i don't even
 
@NathanC I know, right!
 
6:20 PM
@MDMarra infoblox is actually bsd, bind, isc dhcp and their glue/webgui on top
 
So, it literally adds nothing
 
Everyone I work with:
 
It's a poor-mans IDS...don't they know most malware contacts actual IP addresses?
@Cole How appropriate. :P
 
Some lady I work with her voice sounds like she's whining all the time when she talks.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Not a big deal. I really do get the impression that they were perhaps as nervous about doing the interview as I was.
 
6:21 PM
and she's loud
 
@Cole Hmm. the Dog's using an HP dv6000 series laptop.
 
Which is about what I'd give the dog. Obsolete when introduced.
 
Doesn't this sort-of sound like Puppet/Chef?
 
anyone recommend a 2560x1440 display they like?
 
6:23 PM
@NathanC we use none of the features other than DNS/DHCP
 
@NathanC yes. that's pretty much what it is, but with shiny marketing material on top.
 
We use absolutely no automation stuff
I'm the only person who has automated anything here.
 
Yeah I figured. I've seen enough startups and things of that sort that I can see through the marketing branding most of the time
DNS reminds me ...need to make sure that when we bring on our backup AD server we also have it act as failover DNS ...
And now, datacenters!
 
loads of wasted space there. The ricer lighting is useless too.
 
@NathanC server
 
6:26 PM
1/10 - would not colocate
 
Singular?
 
@NathanC bit small
 
@MDMarra Yep, we have a single AD server
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Ugly datacenter; wouldn't colocate => ud;wc
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@DennisKaarsemaker I was just wondering how much the electricity to run all those ricer lights must cost every month....
 
6:26 PM
@NathanC have fun with that
 
Actually, all of the company's servers are virtualized on a single ESXi box...
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@NathanC OHBOY
 
@NathanC I hope your resume is up to date!
 
JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL
 
We're just now concerned about redundancy apparently ha.
 
6:27 PM
@NathanC with a single power supply and network interface?
 
@ChrisS Probably less than the strip lights
 
Dual power supplies w/UPS, 2 interfaces connected. So, there's that at least.
The issue apparently was funding ...we're still on a 10 year-old phone system that's unsupported and we can't even change the names on the phones. But, can't get funding. Apparently there's a higher-up with a bit more funding swing so we can get what we need heh. We'll see...
It saddened me :(
 
dude run
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@NathanC Yeah, that's what $job[-2] wanted to do. Thankfully, the RAM licensing limit is 32GB per box.....
 
@MDMarra I work in that every day :_)
 
6:30 PM
dude run
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run, dude, run
 
@NathanC Hey, you don't happen to be working in Seattle doing IT for a social services agency, would you? That sounds like a job I left last year. =)
 
YAY SOMEONE HAS A WORSE JOB THAN ME!
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run bro
 
If you guys need help with your resumes, just let me know
 
6:31 PM
@MDMarra I probably do
 
shoot me an email any time
 
@Adrian Nope, a window manufacturing company in good ol' Maine
 
@MDMarra "Engaged bearded man's expertise with resume building to achieve traction on new-job-finding verticals"
 
*married
 
@NathanC Dang. I've never seen crazy like that in a for-profit company.
 
6:32 PM
Also, I don't even know what that means
 
@MDMarra Thanks, I appreciate it
 
pal of mine is an ER (A&E in the UK) doctor, had a guy in over the weekend with 28 'ferrules' up his arse - google-image what one is
 
@Adrian I have, it's gnarly
 
@NathanC I like the outlets in Kittery
 
Granted, this is my first actual IT job outside of college, so I'm immediately thrown into the "omg this is bad juju"
 
6:32 PM
But it's Maine
 
@Chopper3 Jesus christ in a chicken basket
 
Ahaha
 
@JoelESalas yes, and such an odd number...
 
What a loser. He couldn't even get to 30
 
@Chopper3 A man was hospitalized with 6 plastic horses up his ass. Doctors have described his condition as "stable."
6
 
6:33 PM
@Chopper3 What, Precisely, The Fuck?
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Are ferrules SFW?
 
@Chopper3 I guess 28 is as far as you can go before you want to go to the ER
@Cole It's a little metal cylinder thing
So, no
 
@Cole yes, unless you stick them up your colon
 
xxx_ferrule_porn.jpg.exe
 
@Cole they're the rubber ends on a walking-stick or zimmer-frame
 
6:34 PM
Oooh, an exe! click
 
That's........really nasty.
 
@JoelESalas they're ferrites sorry
 
@JoelESalas I think you might catch something from that.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Which clearly isn't even Safe For Home.
 
@Chopper3 OH FERRITES. Dude if one of those breaks in your ass you'll die of internal bleeding
 
6:35 PM
@JoelESalas no, these were rubber ferrules, not ferrites
@JoelESalas either way a) fucking OUCH and b) wtf!
 
In any case, rubber > ceramic for butt purposes
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A ferrule (a corruption of Latin viriola "small bracelet", under the influence of ferrum "iron") is a name for types of objects, generally used for fastening, joining, sealing or reinforcement. They are often narrow circular rings made from metal, or less commonly, plastic.
 
@Chopper3 Gotta be a special kind of stupid to shove magnets in your butt.
 
@Adrian Advanced stupid?
 
@Adrian works great for attracting dudes with prince alberts :)
 
6:36 PM
@Adrian they're not magnets!! they're rubber things
 
Buttholes freak me out.
 
@Adrian We're a family owned business and multimillion dollar. Running on 1 server when I first got here and 10/100 3COM switches
 
@Cole even your own?
@Travis wow, that's shit
 
@Chopper3 I don't look at it. But it probably would if I had to.
 
6:36 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker Heh. First time I heard about those I about sprayed my drink. =D
 
Oh thank you random phantom pain my left right pec
 
@Travis we have a couple 10/100 switches here...
 
@NathanC Pretty sure that 'advanced stupid' is an oxymoron. =)
 
Oh, I'm sure, but the stupid people won't get it :D
 
@Adrian let me introduce you to my new favourite political party.
They're a bit sour, but you'll lov'em
 
6:38 PM
And for those questions you get that you just can't figure out why someone would ask you:
 
Ok, this is how fucking legit and enterprise this service is. You have to use X11 forwarding to get a little window before you can stop or start the service
 
@JoelESalas Wait...what? O.o
 
@NathanC MicroStrategy Intelligence Server
 
GODDAMMIT CHAT! Y U NO HAVE UNIX SHELL EDITING SHORTCUTS!!!!!1!
 
Oh and of course it has to run as root. Why? No one knows
 
6:40 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker Oh? Do tell....
 
Hm, guess the developers weren't as intelligent eh?
 
@Adrian think "sour" "nasty internet meme" "party". If you still don't get it:
 
@JoelESalas Shoot it. Strangle it. Then burn it. Gotta be sure it's really dead.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I get most of my internet memes here. Reddit scares me.
 
6:43 PM
@Chopper3 In the past 12 years they have spent less than $100k in IT equipment
 
@Adrian If reddit scares you, then 4chan will scar you for life.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Please no.
 
I got here and spend $50k within the first year upgrading
 
@Travis what is that as a percentage of overall business expenditure per year?
 
@Travis It seems to be the case here too ...I mean, we have all single licenses for office and things of that sort...
No volume licensing = pain
 
6:44 PM
@NathanC I already had kids and family when that was launched.
 
@NathanC you can fix that with an open license
 
@JoelESalas You might be able to do a wrapper with Xvfb or Xvnc so that X11 forwarding isn't needed.
 
If you have a VLK from an open license agreement, you can use that key to replace like-versions of retail keys
 
Oh really...
 
I swear, If somehow that little dink gets a moderator slot, I'm just done.
 
6:44 PM
so if you have 100 individual retail office keys, you just need 1 office volume license key and you can use that for all 100 retail installs as well. Then you can do stuff like KMS for activation and all that
 
hey
 
@Chopper3 Less than 2% maybe?
 
@Travis if it's less than 3% then you need to shit them into space
 
And to top it off, they have an IT consultant that they pay $115/hour for and this is the state of the network so far...lol.
 
does anyone know a webserver i can use with xamp to test or learn about web hacking?
 
6:45 PM
@NathanC Yep. I just got them on volume
 
@MDMarra I'll definitely look into that more.
 
i will appreciate if i'm getting the help there
 
@NathanC consultants are the scum of the earth
 
@Saladin XAMP...contains...apache....
 
@Saladin are you ever in the wrong place for that.
 
6:45 PM
yeah but not the vulnerable test application
lol
 
sorry, I don't follow
 
1) we don't do help 2) we don't do hacking 3) we loath xampp
 
talking of things needing to be shat into space; serverfault.com/q/511469/1435
 
4) sheep
 
well if i say do you do hacking?
 
6:46 PM
huh?
 
no i said do you do security testing...
i will search some other room
 
bye now
 
@NathanC don't mention sheep when @Cole is around. He gets nervous.
 
@Chopper3 They didn't upgrade it until it broke. Before I got here they had a consultant that came in Wednesday nights for $60/hour after his real job. So imagine working an 8 hour day then coming in here to work until 2 or 3 AM
 
after hours work for $60/h? yuck
 
6:48 PM
I got an hour of overtime saturday for breaking the new mail server from home
so yeah
 
@MDMarra He would sometimes work 5 to 6 hours for that.
@MDMarra But not really do anything. Maybe image a few machines. The AD structure was jacked, no GPO, nothing
@MDMarra DHCP was handled by firewall so there was 0 management of IP addresses. We had rogue machines (personal devices) all over
 
In my infinite wisdom after changing the interfaces file to match the IP of the old server that it was replacing, I typed ifdown eth0 thinking "oh, eth0:1 should be okay". I immediately regretted hitting that enter key.
 
living the dream
 
Fucking cock goblins.
 
ok, back to writing scorch runbooks
 
6:49 PM
@NathanC I'm salary
 
Last time I ever work in a console first thing in the morning...
 
I'm salary too
 
i'll check back in an hour to mock whoever lost the election
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@NathanC I worked on this Sonicwall off and on all weekend.
@Cole No over time for me
 
@Travis I get a $2600/year stipend for on call
 
6:50 PM
@Travis Sometimes I wish I was salaried so I'd make more
 
so extra ~$100/biweekly in my check
 
instead i'm making $14/hour. It was better than my last job, but not really enough to be self-supporting :[
 
@NathanC most of the time you make less while salary.
 
@MDMarra Takes a couple days for someone at .SE to get around to tallying the votes, yes? Or at least I seem to recall that from last year.
 
A friend of mine's doing an internship and making $19/hour heh
 
6:51 PM
@Adrian nah last year was instant
 
@NathanC you need to get out of Maine.
 
@Cole What's a stipend lol :)
 
I ran in the election, so I recall the details of my loss as clear as day
Maybe earlier ones took longer
 
@NathanC If you got some chops and a degree/certs, they're throwing money at people here.
 
I should not complain about my salary.
 
6:52 PM
@Cole I would if I could afford it.
Right now all I have is a degree in IT management and my A+ (Network+ following)...heh. The tests are expensive. :/
 
@MDMarra Hmm. Odd. I could've sworn I remembered @voretaq7 saying something about it being awhile before we'll know the results.
 
Where in Maine are you? @NathanC
 
working in portland currently
 
Remember everybody: if you haven't voted yet, vote now. Election is almost over. I recommend anybody but Evan. serverfault.com/election
 
@NathanC I get recruiting emails from people paying 60-80k literally almost every day. Consider moving to a major metro
 
6:53 PM
@Adrian you should be able to download the election file and a copy of openstv immediately
 
@Iain Cool. Thanks.
 
@MDMarra easily in Boston he could make that.
Or even North of Boston - like Lowell/Andover etc
 
50-60k entry level is probably a fair thing to expect in Philly
 
I'd move in a heartbeat for that honestly
But of course, need money to make money....
 
@NathanC if I had a second room, I would let you crash until you got on your feet.
 
6:54 PM
@Adrian If you wait for SE it takes a little while, if you crunch the data yourself it's damn near instant
 
@voretaq7 Last year they had the winners up before the STV files were available for download
or are you talking about the full total results for the losers
 
@Cole Thanks heh
 
@MDMarra really? I thought they had the STV before the results last time?
 
I'm actually south of Boston - about 45 minutes.
My base salary is $85K
 
@voretaq7 I don't think so. I knew I lost before I crunched numbers
Maybe it was just intuition :)
 
6:56 PM
I did some straw polling of the constituent badges earlier and just like questions ~70% of the voters are from $elsewhere and 40% could only vote because of association bonus
 
@voretaq7 Have to buy OpenSTV nowadays. Doesn't appear to be available for free any longer.
 
@Adrian SE paid for a license I believe, there will probably be a download link when the election ends
 
user image
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my vote from the last election
 
@Adrian SE still links to the (old) free binary
 
@MDMarra I swear, for awhile I though @voretaq7 and @wesleydavid were setting up a lizard porn ring.
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6:58 PM
ahaha
 
@Adrian and don't get me started on how "not open" that shit is now.
Should I change back to a human gravatar?
 
@Iain oh are you resigning? if so then I didn't know, why? rage getting you down like it did me or have you a less insane reason?
 
@Adrian My mind is now doing disturbing things with legged ouroboroses.
 
@84104 Aim To Please. Shoot To Kill. =)
 
@Chopper3 yes, I get far too angry and then sad about being angry at the quality of the questions we get. As we got more popular our quality has plummeted ...
 
7:02 PM
@Iain you're a nice guy so you got sad about being angry, I just got vicious for the same reason, that's because I'm not a nice guy :)
 
@Iain So has the grammatical skill level of our average petitioner
Please take a few minutes and rewrite your question to at least somewhat resemble Standard Written English. I've cut out some of the worst bits, but as it stands your question is a trainwreck of sentence fragments and ellipses - if you put so little effort into your question you can't reasonably expect folks to put much effort into helping you. See also this Meta topic on what is expected of questions here. — voretaq7 35 secs ago
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Oh my. I haven't heard that in about 20 years.
 
I really don't understand SE either, they sell advertising space on the sidebar to companies wanting to hire sysadmins but more than 70% of the questions come from people with more rep $elsewhere so we're failing to attract the target market
@Chopper3 I have my moments
 
@Iain yeah, but few are as cunty as me when I'm in the mood, well done for lasting as long as you have
 
7:08 PM
@Chopper3 @Iain . . . clearly you've never seen me train a junior admin.
I'm a big fan of "Would I make you grab that wire if it were live?" training.
 
@voretaq7 I like "now off you fuck" myself
 
@Chopper3 Never again after what that last intern did to the database server.... fucking pervert.
 
@voretaq7 the answer of course being: damn straight I would!
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Well DUH - not like I'm gonna grab a live wire MYSELF. I'M not stupid (unlike $intern)
 
@Chopper3 since I decided to step down I've spent much less time on the main site and I'm better for it
 
7:13 PM
anyone want some free cats
before I shoot the damn things
 
@MattBear no, I have 2 already
and one of them had her first kill today, a magpie
 
Anyone else notice the assholeness of @voretaq7's responses :)
 
@Travis no, not really. Perfectly normal BOFH behaviour.
 
im allergic to em, wife has 2, one keeps getting into food, shitting in my closet..
its gotta go
fucking thing knows its not supposed to be on the counter, sees me coming and take off running
 
@Travis If I were an asshole I'd make the intern check the microwave dish. In the rain.
 
7:18 PM
@voretaq7 Shocking!
 
@voretaq7 :)
 
no takers? I will box them up and ship them today
 
@voretaq7 Odd. For a moment, I thought that was from Two Mules for Sister Sara.
 
@MattBear the USPS prohibits sending venomous or dangerous animals through the mail...
 
7:27 PM
@voretaq7 ill just put em in an air tight container
no one will ever know
 
So, I was reading the news about how liberty reserve was seized and so on ...I did an nslookup on the domain and got 74.208.15.160 as an IP. It points to another couple domains that were also seized.
 
@MattBear . . . is that Donahoe's cat?
 
Interesting...
 
@MattBear They're like children. Only smaller, faster, and don't listen nearly as well.
 
@voretaq7 whats that?
@Adrian and when they piss you off, you can just get rid of em!
 
7:29 PM
@MattBear It's like Schrödinger's cat, but the postal version
 
@voretaq7 ahh lol
 
Put a cat in a box and ship it parcel post. The cat is both alive and dead until the recipient opens the box
(at which point the cat is neither alive nor dead - it's a spinning yowling hissing ball of raging fur, with claws!)
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the cat figured out how to survive on carbon dioxide, and its dead... untill you open the box
then one of the possibilities becomes manifest
 
Is it true that you can have only one RODC per site? A coworker told me this, but I have been Googling and can't find anything about it
 
@MattBear Silly, that's why you poke holes in it.
 
7:33 PM
@NathanC the cat?
 
Sounds messy.
 
Yes...the cat.
 
@Jikag as far as I know, no
@NathanC well then, why ship it in an air tight box? why ship it at all... my problems solved
 
@MattBear Thanks, I thought it sounded iffy
 
@Jikag spin up two of them and see if they play nice :P
@MattBear What would you do instead, throw it like a football?
 
7:36 PM
@MattBear got any psycho ex? Ship the cats to her.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker lol thats a good idea...
 
@Jikag "You can deploy multiple RODCs for the same domain in the same site, but it can lead to inconsistent logon experiences for users if the WAN to the writeable domain controller in a hub site is offline. This is because the credentials for a user might be cached on one RODC but not the other." technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc754956(v=ws.10).aspx
 
@NathanC You are awesome, thanks!
 
No problem. Need to exercise my Google-foo more.
 
@NathanC You need to ear more Google-Os
 
7:43 PM
Hahaha. I've never seen that before...that's great.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker heh the X's are a nice touch
XXX
cause that's what Google's for!
 
Hm, a question got closed as what i flagged it for, but my flag was declined O.o
 
that's because we're capricious like that :)
 
Wow…
Maybe I'm a little too-well trained.
 
@MikeyB push button. receive game.
 
7:47 PM
Oh well, not like it affects rep or anything.
 
@MikeyB hah
 
THAT'S AWKWARD. That moment when a crazy chick you dated a couple years shows up in LinkedIn as a 2nd or 3rd tier connection.
 
@Adrian That awkward moment when a crazy chick you dated is 1st tier connection on LinkedIn.
 
5 minutes until we bow to our new overlords
 
♫ It's a small world after all ♫
 
7:55 PM
@MDMarra speak for yourself
 
@Cole Yeah. No.
 
Oh man, the elections end as my work shift ends. I just realized that hah.
 
lots of good stuff getting debated in that mSO thread I made this morning
Although Anna Lear doesn't like my ideas so they prob won't happen :(
 
election began
May 20 at 20:00
election ends
in 2 minutes
 
"Don't doubt the ability of people to actually get better." Holy fuck mSO is naive.
 
7:58 PM
@Tanner no, you're too cynical :)
 

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