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5:03 PM
if I'm making a question which is specifically about a spoiler, should I include "spoilers" as a tag or has this not been decided yet? I've already made the title vague, hidden the spoiler part, and warned for spoilers
 
@atlantiza I'd say leave out the spoiler tag name for now
 
a spoiler tag seems like it's the wrong level of granularity for the issue
 
To those who don't know:
@JNat You don't "create" a tag and then use it. You create a tag the moment you use it. :P — Alenanno 12 secs ago
 
Is there a reason reputation on Anime and Manga Meta updates much much slower than on the main site?
 
@MadaraUchiha I had noticed that too
@MadaraUchiha lol on your profile bio
 
5:12 PM
@JNat Don't mess with me :)
 
lol
 
I also noticed... I thought maybe my tag request was so terrible it had been deleted or something. then I realized it just was slow to update.
 
Thank God for Ajax editing!
 
It updates after a while, I don't see anything weird with it...
@JNat Your question about Nagato... T_T
 
what about it?
 
5:21 PM
I did watch the Pain part... Is there something more after that in the Manga?
I mean, after Naruto speaks to Nagato himself.
Just say yes or no. :P
 
yes
somewhat
did you read the part inside the spoiler block?
 
Ok. I'll avoid the question then lol You can remove the "possible spoilers" from the title.
@JNat Nope.
 
ok
so don't
 
lol
 
you think it is safe to remove 'possible spoilers' from title?
 
5:23 PM
Yes, the spoiler part is inside that blockquote.
 
ok
so the blockquote in itself is a spoiler warning
is that it?
 
I would think so
 
And I think that this is a good way to frame a question that may contain spoilers
am I right?
 
@JNat Yes to your first question. :)
 
I don't see why you would use it for anything besides spoilers (unlike when people at some forums use the spoiler feature to hide a random part of their post)
 
5:25 PM
ok
 
@atlantiza Luckily we're far from that. :P
 
haha yeah I don't think it would happen on SE but it's quite common on forums
which has led me to accidentally read actual spoilers since I assumed it was, well, a pseudo-spoiler? whatever you want to call it
 
btw, does anyone have an answer for it?
 
it = ?
 
@atlantiza it's a link
 
5:29 PM
how 'bout you @MadaraUchiha ?
 
oh haha, didn't see the color difference
can I submit for review a tag rename or would I just have to ask someone with more powers?
 
@JNat Hmm?
Both me and that wretched Hashirama answered you
 
well...
bye! see y'all around
 
5:45 PM
Bye :)
 
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Q: At the end of クランナド CLANNAD: After Story, how do Ushio and Nagisa 'resurrect'?

MochanThis is a question that I really can't get my head around. I've asked many people but I still have not come to a good understanding of the ending of CLANNAD: After Story. In the end of the anime, Nagisa and Ushio both come back to life. It's not terribly clear on how this happens and what causes...

I don't think that there is a canonical answer for this question. Any and all answers would be pure speculation.
 
somewhat related to what I was about to ask actually
if a question doesn't have a "real"/official answer, can/should it be voted for closure as "not a real question"?
 
@atlantiza I would say it's not constructive
 
Part of the problem is that there are people around here who know far more about a world (from manga/novels/the author's blog) than is available in an anime
It's almost impossible to know if a question like that has an answer unless you got your PhD in CLANNADology
 
@jkerian even if you draw from the game in this question, unless you are the writer,there no way to give a answer based on fact, it just speculations and debates
 
5:55 PM
well if a bunch of people vote to close it and then Dr. Clannad comes around, they can vote to reopen it right?
 
@atlantiza sure
 
if they have a good answer I'm sure it would be reopened
 
My point is slightly more theoretical. It's almost impossible to know if "Why/How did this happen?" is answerable unless you have exhaustive knowledge of the fictional world.
 
well for the clannad one I'd say leave it for now but I was actually asking about anime.stackexchange.com/questions/238/…
 
@JNat I don't want to push this "s/Madara/I" thing too far
Comments are fine, but let's stop doing it in answers :D
 
5:58 PM
@jkerian you're on jlu too right? I haven't been there in way too long...
 
and... my work internet filter just wins... I can't see anything at i.stack.imgur.com, but have no trouble viewing deviantart
 
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Q: Hosting options for people that have imgur blocked by ISP

dassoukiimgur is blocked by 2 of the private ISPs we use. Is there a workaround without involving tunneling? Bare in mind that filmot, flickr are also blocked

 
@atlantiza yeah... finally started taking kanji on more systematically
 
I took a break from school so I haven't had nearly as many questions as while I was taking Japanese classes...
 
rather oddly, they don't block reddit :)
 
6:06 PM
@MadaraUchiha lol, I see you sparked something, your rival hashirama senju registered :P
 
obviously reddit is more informative than SE... right...? [/sarcasm]
 
@grasshopper He's actually my friend, I invited him over :)
 
lol, kk
 
I suggested he'd call himself Hashirama and challenge me to a rep duel.
 
I need to browse around stackoverflow and find some linked images that are blocked... then I can probably raise hell over it
 
6:07 PM
So far I'm obviously the superior. As if he could actually defeat me in a fair fight.
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Fair fight over rep... Anime SE just got a lot more intense!
soon we will have our very own anime
 
@Krazer hmm... not actually seeing any solution there, just a few recomendations
 
I guess I'll do dishes before watching some anime... be back later :)
 
@jkerian give them a try
 
I'm guessing that i.stack.imgur.com/ocqdb.jpg isn't the same as imgur.com/ocqdb.jpg
 
6:12 PM
@jkerian one is a picture of a mountain side and the other is a comic about a lumberjack...
now I'm really going though! bye
 
Bye!
 
@atlantiza Bye
 
Is there a QQ group?
 
Summoning: Edo Tensei!
Welcome back, @HashiramaSenju
חחח
@HashiramaSenju
 
lol :P
Welcome @HashiramaSenju
 
6:18 PM
@Alenanno His rep wasn't updated yet, he can't talk :P
 
@MadaraUchiha Ah that. I thought he didn't know where to write.
 
How can I get ownership on this room?
@Alenanno I thought so too :D
 
@MadaraUchiha You can't... No seriously: I think that it's gained either by a moderator assigning it to you, or after a while you've been in this room a lot (which means you know it fairly well to be trusted with powers).
But I wouldn't willingly give Madara any power!
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:P
 
@Alenanno Pathetic mortal, I'll get this power one way or another, even if I have to switch eyes 3 more times!
 
lol :P
 
6:22 PM
=)
 
6:41 PM
@MadaraUchiha Would you be interested in becoming a Moderator?
 
@Alenanno I would, actually.
 
@MadaraUchiha Mind if I ask why?
 
@Alenanno Well, I like this community, a lot
Started out on Stack Overflow, found my way to the general Stack Exchange
I like the community moderation approach, and I think I can do more as a mod.
Also, I like challenges and can't stand inaccuracies and grammar mistakes :D
 
I must warn you: you might start to post less as the community grows. :P
Ahah yes, I totally agree lol
 
@Alenanno I can imagine.
 
6:45 PM
But it might be not true for all...
 
I already do flag handling and review over on Stack Overflow (as a 20k+ user)
 
Ah I see. :)
 
But since I manage to balance it out on Stack Overflow, I imagine I'll do fine on a smaller community :)
 
@Alenanno Pls tell us what a day in the life of a mod is like~
 
@Krazer Ahah the good day or the bad day?
 
6:48 PM
@Alenanno The Madara day :)
 
@MadaraUchiha regarding the wiki, "What anime series is like X?" do you think this kind of questions are on topic or not?
 
@MadaraUchiha Never happened to me... I guess. :P
 
@grasshopper On topic, yes. Constructive, no.
That's a question for chat, it's a discussion question, which isn't fit to a Q&A site
 
both :)
 
Heh
seems like I hit my cap today :)
 
6:50 PM
@Krazer The good day is when you open the site and you find that everyone is voting to close, posting Meta questions, helping new users... The bad day is when you close a question and the user posts on Meta "Moderator abusing his power, closing my question unilaterally".
 
@Alenanno Heh, we had the same problem with the
 
:P
Yeah. I mean, it's not like I say "Oh yes I CLOSE A QUESTION! YAY!" when I close a question.
 
@Alenanno People tend to take it quite personally
 
@MadaraUchiha Yes, usually that's what happens.
 
I once had a question "What to do when my question is wrongfully closed?" on meta posted on me
Let me fetch it for you :P
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A: What to do if high reputation users are downvoting/closing your question without actual reasons?

Madara UchihaFirst off, this is the proper reaction. (Posting on meta). I will clarify my decision. The question's requirements were unreasonable The use of semi-transparent 1px PNG backgrounds died years ago (the question you've linked is 3 years old). There are better, stronger, and more compatible solut...

Yeah that
 
6:54 PM
I posted this:
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A: FAQ: My question was closed, in my opinion wrongly. What do I do?

AlenannoWhat am I supposed to do? What could I do? If you honestly think your question was closed wrongly and that it should be reopened, your best bet is Meta. Some suggestions: Don't just post a rant, that won't help you (as in any other situation in life); Write constructively about why you think i...

:D
And I shamelessly stole borrowed this from another user:
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Q: FAQ: A guide to moderation: Voting to close a question

AlenannoWhat does it mean to close a question? Who can do it? Why should you do it? This is a very nice guide provided by Ninefingers on the Cryptography Meta Site. Following the example from other sites and reassured by his blessing, I'm going to post it here. A note: if a new user asks for explanatio...

:P
 
Well actually he said yes.
 
Yeah at first I was a bit stunned with SO's quick downvotes and such but I think it made me a bit wiser on how I use the community
 
I really like Stack Overflow in that sense
That instant sting new users get after they post crap questions
Damn, his gravatar was updated already, but his reputation didn't, how long does is this supposed to take?!
 
although Im still a noobie in programming so I ask a whole lot and stick with the xampp installation questions :P
 
6:57 PM
@grasshopper PHP developer?
 
yup trying to work into codeigniter now when I'm not procrastinating
 
@grasshopper Here's my word of advice, forget CI and never come back to it
 
@MadaraUchiha then which framework, or you recommend pure?
 
@grasshopper How familiar are you with OOP?
 
Xeo
We're not totally sure on the outcome of the above discussion, but there's a tendency towards letting these stay open in the beginning. As such, voted to reopen. — Xeo 6 secs ago
 
7:01 PM
actually feels wrong to discuss PHP in the anime room, like I'm walking through a staff only section :P
 
Xeo
^ can we get this reopened?
 
You're welcome to join the PHP room over on Stack Overflow chat:

 PHP

Support group for those afflicted with PHP. Don't ask to ask, ...
 
Xeo
@grasshopper PHP - staff-only - pfff.
 
lol, best metaphor I can come up with
 
7:05 PM
ok so rov-pls is to reopen?
 
@grasshopper ReOpen Vote Please
 
okok, im not sure how new rooms start but I opened one if you feel like mentoring for a bit
 
@Xeo It's too broad.
 
Xeo
@Alenanno How so? It asks for a specific resource regarding anime.
If you think such questions are too broad, please provide input on the linked meta question.
 
As is, it's asking for the whole world airing dates which is quite ... huge.
 
Xeo
7:09 PM
@Alenanno No, japanese only.
 
@Xeo It's not stated in the question.
You vote to close/reopen on what is stated in the question.
 
Xeo
@Alenanno Well, approve suggested edit and it now does.
 
I included a suggestion in the comments.
I can't approve. :/ No privileges.
 
I approved it
 
Dammit, my new dual-HD enclosure for Anime doesn't work on my laptop... wtf...
 
7:12 PM
But since I am the only one in the site with edit privileges, it doesn't count as much :D
 
But works fine on my server...
 
@MadaraUchiha want to open a room, not sure how it works though?
 
@grasshopper A room for what? :P
 
@grasshopper Opening a room here?
 
@MadaraUchiha lol no, for the PHP you mentioned, want to know why you dont recommend CI
 
7:15 PM
0
Q: What is the orginal name of this Italian doubled manga?

Eduard FlorinescuDoes anyone knows the original name of this Italian doubled manga serial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y877iq9Sbc

No research effort here.
 
Yeah, that'd have gotten -3 instantly on Stack Overflow.
 
@Mysticial I don't think we should be much softer..
That's a -1 from me.
 
I have a habit of never downvoting, but instead leaving "brutal" comments.
 
@JNat It's a question you can easily answer by searching the title on the internet.
 
Xeo
@Alenanno Seriously, a google search for the title of the yt vid brought the italian wikipedia with the original title up...
 
7:18 PM
@Mysticial Worth nothing without the "sting" of a few downvotes.
 
By "brutal", I don't mean offensive, but the type of comment that will attract other downvotes.
 
@Xeo Exactly. :P
 
Xeo
Meh, I still don't know what to close "no research effort" questions as. :|
not constructive doesn't really fit.
 
NARQ
standard on SO
 
Xeo
NARQ also doesn't cover it, since it is a real question
 
7:26 PM
It's been covered on meta.
NARQ for no research questions.
 
Xeo
Hm, k.
 
under the excuse that they are "incomplete"
 
Xeo
Anyways, the anime-airing-site-list is edited, can we get it reopened now?
@Mysticial Incomplete might just fit.
 
@Xeo Ok you'll hate me... but it's NC to me.
 
Xeo
As I said, provide your input on the meta question.
The current tendency goes towards letting these stay open for the time being.
 
7:29 PM
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Q: Should we allow "where can I find X info / resource about anime / manga"?

XeoThe main motivation here is this question asking where to find a list of currently airing anime, including date and time. It can be seen as a polling question (well, really, it is) and might come a cross as subjective, as there may be multiple valid answers, of which you might choose one by prefe...

Not a lot of votes on anything.
 
@Xeo It's not a matter of per-site policy. It's a matter of SE policy. But ok I'll leave my contribution. :P
 
I'm surprised none of the community mods have stepped in.
 
@Mysticial They might.
 
@Alenanno But read my argument about the "early-boost"
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Not a big tendency, but a tendency atleast :P
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Q: Should we allow recommendation questions?

XeoPeople might want to ask about anime / manga which are similar in style / story to the one they just watched or liked. Should they be closed as "not constructive", since they are by-nature were preference-based and you can't objectively say which anime is truly similar to which other one? There a...

 
7:35 PM
Dammit lesson learned: USB3 is still new technology and is unstable. Even after 3 years?
 
Xeo
I heard it's lightning-fast, though.
 
It is fast, there's all sorts of incompatibilities.
The enclosure I ordered arrived this morning. It works on my Sandy Bridge machine. But not on my laptop.
My 4-slot enclosure is very unstable on my laptop and slightly unstable on my Sandy Bridge rig.
 
Xeo
The bleeding edge leaves wounds. :D Although "bleading edge" refers to "rusted edge" here.
 
@Xeo Not to mention that I'm also fiddling with the 3TB barrier too.
My Anime collection no longer fits on 2 x 2TB.
And hardly any dual-slot enclosures support 3TB.
 
@Xeo Done.
 
7:40 PM
And the one that does has a broken USB3...
 
Xeo
@Alenanno From the question:
> As a tangant, on SO, there may also be multiple solutions to a specific programming problem, and you pick one that fits best depending on your demands and / or preferences.
I just noticed I misspelled "tangent".
Which is exactly what your answer describes as "bad".
 
It's not the same. In a programming question, the possible answers are really few. If I ask "what sites talk about airing dates", I could find 5, 10, 40 sites like that, theoretically.
 
Xeo
@Alenanno That's not true. There are as many solutions as there is sand out there for most problems. Some are better than others. And the OP picks his personal best fit.
 
@Xeo Well, like I said it's not my opinion. But let me say one thing: I don't think they really raise the quality of the site.
 
@Alenanno They don't. But they bring people in.
 
7:47 PM
The fact is... It's easier to set rules now than change them later.
 
True, but getting past the early stage is also the most difficult. Now I can't judge how well Anime is doing since this is the first private beta that I've been in (and cared about).
 
I think it's doing pretty well. But let me say something on the private beta.
 
anyways, I have class
 
The private beta exists so it gives the chance to the people who really care about the site to decide the scope without external interferences, like drive-by users. Ok, we can experiment, and I'm only voicing my opinion not deciding for everyone, but when we enter public beta, we better have some basic rules already settled. If you get what I mean.
Ok, have a nice time. :P
By the way, if you find a nice way (i.e. requirements) to keep the recommendation questions under control, for example, then I'll be happy to vote yes.
 
7:52 PM
@Mysticial heh... I don't actually remember when my collection would fit on 2x2TB
 
@Alenanno I think someone should make a master list of requirements and recommendation in meta? I'll volunteer to make if if we can decide which ones are relevant.
 
24 port raid card, 2TBx8 for the primary array... 750GBx12 for the secondary...
 
@Krazer Madara already did let me fecth it
 
@grasshopper The intention is good, I can see that, but the other answer is based on that user's experience on another site... We can always set a separate chatroom here like "Anime recommendations".
 
7:53 PM
@Alenanno For the moment, forward them here
Although there is that annoying issue where new users don't have enough rep to chat in here...
 
@jkerian Well, we're not here to be the suggesting site for everyone on the internet. It's good there's the rep requirement for once. :P
 
I wish one of the close options was "close and move to chat", which would automatically add speaking privs to the OP
 
@jkerian Something similar was requested for comments.
Let me see if I can find it.
 
I'm pretty sure that exists for comments, if the comment chain gets too long
I haven't quite worked out if it's mod-controlled or automated
 
Xeo
@jkerian Automated if two users reply-comment back and forth too often.
 
7:56 PM
Can't find it...
 
Xeo
Note that it's specifically for two users.
 
@jkerian Yes, but it was suggested for moderators to be able to do it without the chain getting long I think.
 
We had a handful of comment-wars over on JLU that got pitched over to chat
(humorously... it was generally our two most prominent native speakers disagreeing violently about how common or 'correct' a given phrase was)
 
I'll be going off now for a bit. I'll see you guys later, so have fun in the meantime. :) Ping me if you need to tell me something, I'll answer later.
 

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